Teaching Literacy Podcast

In Episode 77 of the Teaching Literacy Podcast, guest host Dr. Laura Tortorelli sits down with Dr. Jake Downs to unpack a recent grade 3 intervention study published in Reading Research Quarterly with co-authors Freddy Hiebert, Kristin Conradi Smith, and Katie Martz. Together, they explore the demands of reading long, complex words and a straightforward blending routine for supporting multisyllabic word reading. They also discuss the need for supporting accuracy and automaticity in complex text and how to use the multisyllabic blending strategy with the repeated reading Read Like Us protocol. Plenty of takeaways for any upper elementary teacher, reading coach, or literacy support professional. Read the article here! No paywall!Downs, J., Hiebert, E., Conradi Smith, K., & Martz, K. (2026). Promoting reading accuracy and fluency outcomes with complex texts: A Grade 3 intervention comparison. Reading Research Quarterly. Advance online publication. https://doi.org/10.1002/rrq.70117 Episode Outline:0:00 Intro — Guest host Laura Tortorelli introduces the episode1:44 Study overview — Jake Downs et al. study comparing simplified vs. complex texts in Reading Research Quarterly4:24 Welcome, Jake — Jake joins the conversation4:48 Complex text effects — Accuracy, fluency, and comprehension decrease with harder text3:54 Why accuracy matters — Accuracy as the “floor of good reading”4:58 Why harder texts? — Vocabulary density, idea sophistication, word automaticity7:24 Teachers’ quandary — Grade-level texts cause accuracy and fluency to plummet8:00 What can we do? — Scaffold rather than water down text9:32 RLU 1.0 vs. new study — Adding long word blending to improve accuracy10:09 Multisyllabic approaches — Syllable types vs. morphology; limitations of each12:48 Hybrid peel-off approach — Combining morphology with syllabication15:58 Curricular design — 80/20 split: text reading vs. word blending17:36 Text design vs. scope & sequence — Pull words from strong texts, not vice versa21:56 Texts in upper grades — Building vocabulary, knowledge, and comprehension22:38 Word repetition — ~25 encounters per target word through repeated readings24:57 A day in Read Like Us — Step-by-step blending routine and repeated reading protocol28:48 Study parameters — 60 sessions, 12 topics, 5 texts each from ReadWorks.org29:38 Comparison condition — A validated decoding intervention, not a weak control31:36 Key differences — Text complexity, word complexity, and word-text alignment34:04 Findings: Accuracy — RLU students 2.79x more likely to reach benchmark35:49 Findings: Fluency — Comparable growth; no cost from harder texts37:33 Vocabulary hypothesis — Likely benefits from text volume and topic diversity37:57 Who benefits? — Students at ~95%+ accuracy; not below 90%40:14 Advice for teachers — Scaffolding is essential; payoff is compound interest43:00 Selecting words — Pick hard, text-meaningful words; 3 words, 5–7 minutes45:41 Challenging deficit views — Build on what students can do; scaffold the edge48:08 What’s Jake optimistic about — Public-facing research and free resources49:38 Laura’s take: Rethinking ZPD — Scaffolding should match text challenge, not avoid it

It’s a special roundtable on the Teaching Literacy Podcast! Host Dr. Jake Downs, Lori Southington, and Blythe Anderson record live from the Society for the Scientific Study of Reading (SSSR) conference in Rotterdam to bridge the gap between emerging research and classroom practice. The trio unpacks key studies on interactive read-alouds and morphology instruction, highlighting how teachers can move past superficial vocabulary “mentioning” to foster deep, active meaning-making. Additionally, Jake shares findings from his own study on multisyllabic word profiles in upper-elementary curricula, demonstrating that students need targeted support with longer, abstract academic words rather than simple concrete ones. Resources Mentioned Clarence Greene’s British and American Word Families (BAWF) Database: https://cgg-projects.github.io/BAWF_V2/Words as Tools (coming soon)Reading Ready + Reading Go: https://www.katiepacemilesphd.com/projectsHow To Plan for Differentiated Instruction (ACCESS Reading): https://www.guilford.com/books/How-to-Plan-Differentiated-Reading-Instruction/Walpole-McKenna/9781462531516?srsltid=AfmBOoqZEpCze9AHw3knqG102KduC3N0kbviJDqEE-02RRNT48EtkFh7Anderson & Strong (2026): https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10573569.2025.2587640(also back on E62 of TLP! https://teachingliteracypodcast.com/e62stopping-the-summer-slide-with-dr-blythe-anderson-and-dr-john-strong/Also check out the Melissa and Lori Love Literacy Podcast — it’s excellent!! literacypodcast.com

In this episode of the Teaching Literacy Podcast, host Jake Downs sits down with Dr. Laura Tortorelli and Dr. John Strong to unpack how vocabulary and advanced decoding interact to help upper elementary students navigate complex academic texts. Discussing their recent study on multisyllabic decoding achievement, the researchers explain why treating vocabulary and word recognition as isolated instructional buckets is a critical mistake. They dive into the mechanics of the fourth-grade slump and Linnea Ehri’s consolidated alphabetic phase, sharing striking findings like why nearly 100% of struggling readers can easily decode compound words like mushroom while only 5% can read bugle—revealing how a word’s “age of acquisition” and presence in a child’s oral vocabulary directly dictates their reading accuracy. Listeners will walk away with a practical understanding of the “decoding threshold” and concrete, flexible classroom strategies from the Read Stop Write intervention to help students move past rigid syllabication rules and seamlessly integrate word meaning with multisyllabic decoding.Link to ReadStopWrite: https://www.readstopwrite.com/ (book coming in 2027!!) 00:00 Multisyllabic Reading Challenge01:33 Meet the Researchers03:40 Why Readers Hit a Wall08:46 Decoding Threshold Explained10:50 Stop Over-Syllabicating13:38 Morphology in Action17:02 Vocabulary and Decoding Unite23:27 Inside the Study Design26:41 Multisyllabic Inventory Breakdown30:20 Surprising Student Performance33:27 Compound Words Mastery33:59 Tricky Syllable Patterns35:11 Nonsense Words Accuracy36:51 Vocabulary vs Morphology39:14 Why Bugle Is Hard43:09 Age of Acquisition Effect45:20 Read Stop Write Strategies50:44 Choosing High Impact Words55:51 Interpreting Nonsense Tests59:01 Literacy Optimisms01:02:16 Jake’s Take Reference:Tortorelli, L. S., Strong, J. Z., & Anderson, B. E. (2024). Multisyllabic decoding achievement and relation to vocabulary at the end of elementary school. Journal of Experimental Child Psychology, 246, 106018. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jecp.2024.106018

In this episode, Jake sits down with Dr. Amanda Shimizu to discuss her research paper, A Multimodal Content Analysis of Popular Early Childhood Stories and Read-Alouds on YouTube, co-authored with Dr. Margaret Quinn. Together they analyzed the 50 most popular preschool read-aloud videos on YouTube over a one-year period, examining both video design and instructional quality.Reference: Shimizu, A. Y., & Quinn, M. F. (2026). A multimodal content analysis of popular early childhood stories and read-alouds on YouTube. Journal of Early Childhood Literacy, 14687984261442422. https://doi.org/10.1177/14687984261442422List of 50 analyzed YouTube videos: TitleCreator/ChannelLinkNo, DavidToadstools and Fairydusthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFcMDiDZbwsThis is My Happy FaceSuper simple storieshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXMMING5_h4Inside Out 2Art in minuteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p4nVK4Ua5kMy No, No, No DayStorytime with ryan & craighttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-gWhnvdgQThe Most Serious FartStory Time at Awnie’s Househttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoKTjdAJFxoThere Was an Old Lady Who Swallowed a WormMrs. K’s Bookworm adventureshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmU8RSguPLIDon’t Let the Pigeon Eat ChocolateMommy and Sam Storytime anytimehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwxUgkMIc74I Am Not AngryReading Rockethttps://youtube.com/watch?v=_QOw52OzJukThe GruffaloReading ishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhhUE1qe3GASwim SchoolBluey Official Channelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtU1CHprtu8Who Pooped on MeStory Time at Awnie’s Househttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txSsFiVA0tYIf You Think There’s Nothing To DoLittle Cozy Nookhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taZIYvYOqcUSo Much SlimeKid Time Story Timehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIkgQFhqIgIEat Your PeasGigi’s Magic Mailbox[link unavailable]Be Respectful and ListenSleeptime Music and storieshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG3arGjg0HkThe BeachBluey Official Channelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKzmUpkTvS0Hey, That’s My MonsterKid Time Story Timehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc71w9J86ygGreen Eggs and HamDr. Seusshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1Kksn76jZkToo Much GlueKid Time Story Timehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_QF0VGakx8What If You Had Animal Teeth?Miss B LIVE!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_QF0VGakx8How to Give your Cat a BathBri Readshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86bjHWalRlAFood FightStoryTime PlayTimehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTIVuT_g204The Cat in the HatDr. Seusshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5Irl_oWD6MCocomelon JJ and Friends Box of BooksHoots & Taleshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLFUo_l5d0INaughty Tim SprocketToadstool and Fairy Dusthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCwJcH9h1BQThe Good, The Bad, and The SpookyStoryTime at Awnie’s Househttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JI5HB3Pg9wDinos Love DonutsStoryTime at Awnie’s Househttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TEBa0EiNg8Don’t let the Pigeon Eat Your Ice CreamMommy & sam Storytime Anytimehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R7PlM4lUvoI Am Martin Luther KingStorytime with Ryan & Craighttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5WyidVQLL8The Wrong BookToadstools and Fairy Dusthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfwqZNlFsfkBroken Crayons Still ColorReading Robinsonshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJNJjMcf6gI&t=5sThe Snail and the WhaleReading ishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfAsZdCtHOcPete the Cat Screams for Ice CreamPink Thumb Learning Channelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdzB3rxiyVEFlat CatKidTimeStoryTimehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1s-N2b9QgIPete the Cat Falling for Autumn5 Minutes with Uncle Benhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuHjjHDB1eMLlama Llama Misses MamaReading ishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr9j0UjLc0E&t=181sBlue Betsy: Little Blue CowLittle Moonbeamhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em2wnQ8qd0I&t=179sThe Way I FeelReading ishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1mxBUXZdqY&t=13sThere Was A Cold Lady Who Swallowed Some SnowStoryTime at Awnie’s Househttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buGDbGjcP-4There Was an Old Lady Who Swallowed a BatSToryTime at Awnie’s Househttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvMVTjHxiyEThe Very impatient CaterpillarStoryTime at Awnie’s Househttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT-F-dxAUQETootHoots and Taleshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fAS_TdIi6ETooth5 Minutes with Uncle Ben [link unavailable]This Book is a MistakeToadstools and Fairy Dusthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04I4u-QyGloThe Great Turkey RaceRead Aloud with Mr. Paulhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjxJ7JRmN-gThe HiccupotamusVookshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EouPRqmomk0The Grouchy LadybugMoving Storieshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x31rwpCMlMDon’t Trust CatsFat Cat Bookshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T817NASjDoMy New Friend is So Fun!Storytime Read Aloudshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LLsAsXHYZw&t=15sMs. SBriReadshttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/IXlbD0Jbs-U Discussion Overview3:37 — YouTube stats & young children’s screen time5:28 — Promises & perils of YouTube as an educational platform7:01 — The 50 most popular channels & creator types11:04 — What makes a high-quality read-aloud?13:22 — Video design features (music, animations, props)17:35 — The “disembodied reader” problem23:02 — Instructional features: before, during & after reading28:40 — The 2×2 matrix: production vs. instructional quality38:10 — Recommendations for YouTube creators40:58 — Follow-up research coming43:51 — Jake’s Take

In this episode I sit down with the SRI Education research team—Dr. Dan Reynolds, Dr. Anna Jennerjohn, and Dr. Sara Rutherford-Quach—to unpack their learning brief, Beyond the Surface. This episode explores the gap between using high-quality instructional materials (HQIM) and achieving deep, robust reading comprehension. Read the Brief Here: https://www.sri.com/publication/education-learning-pubs/beyond-the-surface-leveraging-high-quality-instructional-materials-for-robust-reading-comprehension/ Quick Summary: Actionable advice for coaches and school leaders to build systems that support genuine meaning-making in the classroom. The Study: Analyzed 111 comprehension lessons across districts with mature HQIM implementation and surveyed 500+ teachers. The Central Finding: While HQIM was consistently used, 64% of lessons focused only on surface-level objectives (completing tasks) rather than robust comprehension (building a mental model). Episode Highlights: Defining the crucial distinction between Surface and Robust comprehension. Introducing the 6 high-leverage instructional practices that move the needle toward deep understanding. Timestamps[0:00] – Teaser: Surface vs. Robust Comprehension [0:16] – Introduction & episode overview; Jake introduces the HQIM landscape [1:29] – Introducing the guests and their learning brief: Beyond the Surface [2:43] – What is HQIM and why has the term taken off so quickly? [4:46] – Background on the study: Schusterman Family Philanthropies partnership and why SRI undertook this observational research [7:14] – Why studying mature implementation matters — districts where HQIM had been in place for several years [9:34] – Defining surface-level comprehension vs. robust comprehension [20:58] – How the data was collected: 111 classroom observations, 500+ teacher surveys, 100+ interviews, 62 PLCs observed [25:10] – Finding #1: Teachers were using their HQIM consistently (72–89% daily or almost daily) [21:26] – Finding #2: High floor established — 98% of lessons had a comprehension purpose; but 64% of lessons set only surface-level goals [26:06] – The “voltage drop”: how robust lessons erode [29:57] – The six high-leverage practices for robust comprehension: [30:11] Practice 1: Engaging students in text-specific analysis[33:29] Practice 2: Activating and leveraging prior knowledge[36:10] Practice 3: Explaining and modeling meaning-making[38:48] Practice 4: Providing instructional feedback[40:36] Practice 5: Providing opportunities for text-based reasoning[41:59] Practice 6: Setting up peer learning opportunities[44:25] – What surface-level instruction looks like in practice [47:37] – It’s not a checklist: how the six practices can serve surface OR robust ends [48:56] – Three action steps for coaches and school leaders:[56:07] – Walkthrough tools and their limitations: why you can’t see robust comprehension in a 5-minute walkthrough [1:00:28] – Jake’s curveball: How do standards interact with comprehension instruction? (The PLC/Norse mythology example) [1:06:05] – Student engagement in robust vs. surface lessons — the House on Mango Street discussion example [1:04:12] – What’s next: upcoming SRI briefs on foundational skills, multilingual learners, and knowledge-building [1:10:17] – Optimism for the future of literacy: teachers hungry for the “how,” and a push toward more honest comprehension assessment [1:14:25] – Jake’s Take: Reflections on HQIM as an “instructional floor,” why all three gears must turn (content knowledge, pedagogical knowledge, curriculum knowledge), and a simple habit for keeping comprehension instruction tethered to meaning-making [1:30:30] – Closing

This is a rebroadcast of Episode 245 from the Melissa and Lori Love Literacy Podcast – you can check out that episode here: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/read-like-us-building-fluency-through-repeated-reading/id1463219123?i=1000748503901Make sure to check out the Literacy.io training on the Kat Framework for Comprehension this June!-June 24-25 in East Lansing Michigan-Individual registration available at: https://tamu.estore.flywire.com/products/cusp—the-reading-leagueliteracy10-participant-registration–412940-Group registration available at: https://tamu.estore.flywire.com/products/cusp—the-reading-leagueliteracy10-group-participant-registration–412945-More information available at literacy.io/contact Show Notes2:30 – What is Read Like Us? Overview of the five-step repeated reading protocol How it supports accuracy, automaticity, and prosody 4:10 – The Five Reads Explained Listening passage preview Echo reading Choral reading Partner reading Performance/independent reading 6:00 – Implementation in Classrooms Can it work in whole group settings? Small group intervention applications Working with paraprofessionals and volunteers 10:00 – Maximizing Reading Time Why 90% of intervention time should be actual reading The workout approach to building fluency Ensuring students are actually reading (not just holding books) 12:53 – How Read Like Us Differs from Traditional Approaches More than just “read three times and check for speed” Building all three components of fluency simultaneously The role of modeling and scaffolding 15:00 – Gradual Release of Responsibility Transferring task responsibility to students Why rate/speed wasn’t emphasized in coaching Automaticity as the outcome, not the input 18:00 – Prosody and Comprehension Expression as an indicator of understanding Using the Rasinski multidimensional fluency rubric Rotating focus areas: expression, phrasing, smoothness, pace 20:00 – Study Results Fourth grade students: 16.5 WPM growth in 50 days Effect size of 0.9 Improvements in accuracy, vocabulary, and comprehension measures 22:30 – Potential Comprehension Enhancement Adding a 10-word takeaway or gist statement Keeping it “fluency heavy, comprehension light” Future iterations of the protocol 25:30 – The Stacking Protocol Approach Learning from dissertation chair Dr. Kit Moore Combining multiple evidence-based practices Weaving the reading rope together 27:30 – Cost and Accessibility Read Like Us is free to implement Comparison with commercial tier-two interventions Open access article available 28:48 – Text Selection Philosophy The month-long process of curating 50 texts Using challenging and engaging content (100-200 words) Types included: giggle poetry, science facts, short stories with twists, weird state laws 30:30 – The “Challenging Text” Debate Using texts above grade level with proper scaffolding Addressing the 1960s neurological impress research Why modern research supports stretching students 33:17 – Texts Students Actually Want to Read Students asking to take intervention texts home Incorporating core reading program texts for continuity Balance between practical and engaging content 36:00 – Lexile Levels and Text Complexity Many texts in 6th-8th grade Lexile range for 3rd-4th graders Testing the hypothesis: Can struggling readers succeed in harder texts? Being “level agnostic” in text selection 39:00 – Rethinking Leveled Texts Limitations of the Lexile formula Starting with engaging content, not filter levels The scaffolding makes the difference, not the exact level 42:00 – Student Motivation and Text Choice Chase’s son reading adult-level joke books in first grade The power of “want to” over prescribed levels Teacher control vs. student self-selection 43:00 – Repeated Reading vs. Wide Reading Defining both approaches Why they shouldn’t be pitted against each other Read Like Us = repeated reading across wide array of texts 46:30 – Wide Reading and Teacher Control Students won’t achieve wide reading through self-selection alone The teacher’s role in exposing students to diverse genres Balancing instruction with student choice 48:00 – Benefits of Wide Reading Exposure to different language patterns across genres Informational vs. narrative text structures Building terrain navigation skills with various text types 49:00 – Getting Started with Read Like Us Start with tomorrow’s text Find the 200-300 word section with the most “oomph” Use what you already have in your classroom 50:21 – Closing Where to find the protocol and resources Final thoughts and wrap-up

In this episode we welcome Dr. Sharon Walpole, a professor at the University of Delaware. We explore the challenges teachers face in addressing varying student needs, Dr. Walpole’s pragmatic approach to differentiation, and the developmental roadmap for reading proficiency. Dr. Walpole shares insights on the importance of grade-level instruction, the flaws of certain assessment systems, and practical classroom applications. Make sure to check out Dr. Walpole’s books with Guilford Press! https://www.guilford.com/author/Sharon-Walpole00:00 Introduction to Differentiation01:03 Meet Dr. Sharon Walpole02:15 Defining Differentiation03:23 Acceleration vs. Remediation04:45 Pragmatic Approaches to Differentiation08:03 Challenges with Guided Reading16:46 The Science of Reading and Differentiation23:51 The Stairway to Proficiency Model35:47 Maximizing Instructional Impact36:03 The Importance of Dosage in Education36:38 Resources for Differentiated Reading Instruction37:35 Grouping Students for Effective Learning40:20 Aligning Small Group and Whole Group Instruction48:57 Tiered Instruction: Strategies and Misconceptions56:40 Effective Use of Paraprofessionals01:01:32 Curriculum and Instructional Materials01:03:51 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

In this episode of the Teaching Literacy Podcast, host Jake Downs discusses with Dr. Michael Coyne from the University of Connecticut the concept of advanced phonemic awareness and its implications for early reading proficiency. Dr. Coyne shares findings from his recent study that examines the impact of using oral-only advanced phonemic awareness instruction on first graders. They explore the theoretical underpinnings, practical recommendations for teachers, and the overall relevance of these findings to classroom practice. Tune in to understand the nuanced debate around advanced phonemic awareness and its role in effective literacy instruction. 00:00 Introduction to Advanced Phonemic Awareness01:33 Guest Introduction: Dr. Michael Coyne02:25 Defining Phonological and Phonemic Awareness06:29 Research on Phonemic Awareness10:04 Advanced Phonemic Awareness: Concepts and Tasks12:17 Theoretical Underpinnings and Critiques20:21 Study Overview: Curriculum and Implementation26:55 Study Design and Measures29:44 Evaluating Phonemic Awareness Instruction30:46 Study Results: Phonemic Awareness Outcomes32:54 Near Transfer Outcomes: Word Reading and Fluency34:53 Exploring Differential Benefits37:39 Recommendations for Phonemic Awareness Instruction42:17 Balancing Oral and Integrated Phonemic Awareness Activities50:15 Optimism in Literacy Research and Instruction52:29 Jake’s Take on Teaching Phonemic AwarenessReference:Coyne, M. D., McCoach, D. B., Santoro, L. E., Gentile, M., Rodrigues, C., & Kastner, P. (2025). The Effects of Advanced Phonemic Awareness Instruction in First Grade. The Elementary School Journal, 000–000. https://doi.org/10.1086/737952

How can we best apply the Science of Reading to support multilingual learners? This episode tackles that critical question with Dr. Steven Amendum from the University of Delaware.We explore how evidence-based literacy instruction must leverage a student’s first language as a key asset, not a barrier. Dr. Amendum breaks down practical teaching strategies to boost decoding and reading comprehension for bilingual and multilingual students in diverse classrooms.You’ll also learn how to build effective collaboration between classroom teachers and language specialists and hear about the research-demonstrated impact of the Bella professional learning program. If you’re looking for actionable, research-driven approaches to support your English learners, this episode is a must-listen. 00:00 – Introduction and overview of the episode02:07 – Current support and challenges for multilingual learners in schools04:29 – State vs. federal roles and legislation for multilingual learners06:49 – Key research: Importance of first language (L1) in English reading development09:21 – Cross-linguistic transfer and leveraging home language as an asset11:09 – Oral language, vocabulary, and comprehension strategies in L1 and L213:44 – Practical strategies for teachers: supporting students without knowing their L117:30 – Previewing text language and other evidence-based practices21:28 – Benefits of these strategies for all students23:00 – Decoding, fluency, and phonological awareness across languages25:54 – Instructional strategies: Blend as you go & Say it, move it34:29 – Peer support and collaborative learning36:10 – Effective teacher collaboration and professional learning41:00 – Evidence of impact: Bella program and student outcomes44:35 – Final thoughts and optimism for literacy research46:18 – Jake’s TakeReference:Kittle, J. M., Amendum, S. J., & Budde, C. M. (2024). What Does Research Say About the Science of Reading for K-5 Multilingual Learners? A Systematic Review of Systematic Reviews. Educational Psychology Review, 36(4), 108. https://doi.org/10.1007/s10648-024-09942-6

In episode 69 of the Teaching Literacy Podcast, host Jake Downs speaks with Dr. Kay Wijekumar, Houston Endowed Chair in the Department of Teaching and Learning and Culture at Texas A&M University. They discuss the importance of teaching students to generate rather than find the main idea in texts, detailing Dr. Wijekumar’s evidence-based KAT framework (Knowledge Acquisition and Transformation). The episode delves into how the main idea is foundational for reading comprehension and explores practical strategies for teachers, touching on the inefficacies of current curricular practices. Dr. Wijekumar highlights her website, literacy.io, which offers resources and professional development for educators. The conversation also includes a discussion on the critical role of text structures, and how principals and coaches can support teachers in implementing these strategies effectively. 00:00 Show Opening02:23 Literacy as a Civil Right04:47 Literacy.io: A Resource for Teachers08:48 Challenges in Identifying the Main Idea12:10 Generating vs. Finding the Main Idea15:49 Knowledge Acquisition and Transformation (KAT) Framework25:11 Text Structure and Main Idea34:15 Cause, Problem, Solution Text Structure35:59 Identifying Causes and Solutions in Education38:59 The KAT Framework: Knowledge, Acquisition, and Transformation40:31 Implementing the KAT Framework in Classrooms41:37 Scaffolding and Sentence Stems for Effective Learning49:03 Inference Questions and Background Knowledge01:00:59 Teachers and Coaches: Improving Main Idea Identification01:07:55 Conclusion and Optimism for Literacy Instruction01:10:40 Jake’s Take: What Matters Most? ReferencesHudson, A. K., Owens, J., Moore, K. A., Lambright, K., & Wijekumar, K. (2021). “What’s the Main Idea?”: Using Text Structure to Build Comprehension. The Reading Teacher, 75(1), 113–118. https://doi.org/10.1002/trtr.2016Rice, M., & Wijekumar, K. (2024). Inference skills for reading: A meta-analysis of instructional practices. Journal of Educational Psychology, 116(4), 569–589. https://doi.org/10.1037/edu0000855Rice, M., Wijekumar, K. (Kay), Lambright, K., & Stack, A. (2024). Promoting Inference Generation: Using Questioning and Strategy Instruction to Support Upper Elementary Students. The Reading Teacher, 78(2), 121–130. https://doi.org/10.1002/trtr.2353Wijekumar, K., Beerwinkle, A., McKeown, D., Zhang, S., & Joshi, R. M. (2020). The “GIST” of the reading comprehension problem in grades 4 and 5. Dyslexia, 26(3), 323–340. https://doi.org/10.1002/dys.1647Wijekumar, K., Hudson, A., Lambright, K., Owens, J. K., Binks-Cantrell, E., Beerwinkle, A., & Stack, A. (2023). Knowledge acquisition and transformation (KAT) using text structures. The Reading League Journal.

Dr. Adrea Truckenmiller and Dr. Eunsoo Cho discuss building a strategic assessment system in literacy education. They cover how to use data to inform reading instruction, the difference between screeners, diagnostics, curriculum based measures, and computer adaptive tests, and the importance of reliability in assessments. Common pitfalls like over-testing and teaching to the test are […]

Guest host Dr. Kristin Conradi Smith interviews Dr. Jake Downs about the ‘secret soup’ of highly effective K-2 teacher teams. Link to Jake’s Study: https://www.mdpi.com/2227-7102/15/2/259 Downs, J., Martz, K., & Mohr, K. (2025). Exploring the Instructional Effectiveness of High-Growth K-2 Teacher Teams in Foundational Reading. Education Sciences, 15(2), https://doi.org/10.3390/educsci15020259 Link to ULEAD Report: https://schools.utah.gov/ulead/uleadfiles/reports/ipr/Instructional%20Clarity%20Early%20Lit%20IPR.pdf Please […]

Melissa and Lori invited Jake to discuss Synchronous Paired Oral Reading Techniques (SPORT) — Listen to the episode here! Please write a short impact statement for Jake’s USU review packet (and thank you!): https://forms.gle/QcUs8ciMcAy2yG6L6

Please write a short impact statement for Jake’s USU review packet (and thank you!): https://forms.gle/QcUs8ciMcAy2yG6L6 In this episode, host Jake Downs welcomes guest Dr. Freddy Hebert, a renowned literacy researcher, CEO/Founder of TextProject. The conversation covers topics such as the importance of automaticity, the core vocabulary, reading volume, and shifts in text complexity over the decades. […]

Jake interviews Dr. Steve Graham of the Mary Lou Fulton College for Teaching and Learning Innovation at Arizona State University Please write a short impact statement for Jake’s USU review packet (and thank you!): https://forms.gle/QcUs8ciMcAy2yG6L6

Dr. Phil Capin joins the show to discuss 40 years of reading comprehension instruction. References: Capin, P., Dahl-Leonard, K., Hall, C., Yoon, N. Y., Cho, E., Chatzoglou, E., Reiley, S., Walker, M., Shanahan, E., Andress, T., & Vaughn, S. (2024). Reading Comprehension Instruction: Evaluating Our Progress Since Durkin’s Seminal Study. Scientific Studies of Reading, 1–30. […]

Jake Downs talks with Dr. Blythe Anderson and Dr. John Strong about effective summer tutoring programs to prevent the summer slide in elementary reading. They discuss strategies such as small-group tutoring, differentiated instruction, and interactive read-alouds, based on multi-year research that shows significant gains in vocabulary, reading fluency, and foundational skills. The episode emphasizes the […]

Host Dr. Jake Downs is joined by Dr. Katherine O’Donnell, an Assistant Professor of Educational Psychology at the University of Utah, to discuss her research on student outcomes in states following the implementation of science of reading legislation. 03:02 Historical Context: Reading First Era09:37 Mississippi’s Science of Reading Legislation17:02 Comparative Analysis of State Outcomes29:08 Impact […]

Dr. Danielle Colenbrander joins the show to discuss the benefits of morphology instruction with students. Reference:Colenbrander, D., Von Hagen, A., Kohnen, S., Wegener, S., Ko, K., Beyersmann, E., Behzadnia, A., Parrila, R., & Castles, A. (2024). The Effects of Morphological Instruction on Literacy Outcomes for Children in English-Speaking Countries: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis. Educational […]

Dr. Cherish Sarmiento joins the show to talk about how fifth and eighth grade students use academic language in their writing. Importantly, we learn that words with seven or more letters may be one way to quickly identify academic words. Reference: Sarmiento, C. M., Truckenmiller, A. J., Cho, E., & Wang, H. (2024). Academic language […]

In this episode, Jake is joined by Dr. Blythe Anderson to discuss her research with vocabulary instruction strategies. References: Anderson, B. E. (2024). Vocabulary Talk Moves: Using Language to Promote Word Learning. The Reading Teacher, 77(4), 439–452. https://doi.org/10.1002/trtr.2263 Anderson, B. E., Wright, T. S., & Gotwals, A. W. (2023). Teachers’ Vocabulary Talk in Early-Elementary Science […]

In this episode, Dr. Marianne Rice joins Jake to discuss the different types of inferences and how teachers can support their students in generating inferences to enhance comprehension. For more information, be sure to check out literacy.io References:

Utah Educators — let’s talk about fluency and comprehension!October 1 – Brigham CityOctober 7 – Salt Lake CityOctober 22 – St. George Make sure to sign up for both sessionsFluency: https://usbe.midaseducation.com/professional-development/courses/course/64621Comprehension: https://usbe.midaseducation.com/professional-development/courses/course/64623All sessions are free of charge and 7 relicensure hours will be credited for the full day. A big thanks to the Utah State […]

In this episode, Drs. Tricia Zucker and Sonia Cabell join Jake to discuss their “Strive-for-Five Conversations” strategy for promoting oral language development through simple, serve and return style conversations in the classroom. References: Strive-for-Five Conversations, by Tricia Zucker & Sonia Cabell Cabell, S. Q., & Zucker, T. A. (2023). Using Strive‐for‐Five Conversations to Strengthen Language […]

In this episode Dr. Jake Downs joins us to talk about his research on Synchronous Paired Oral Reading techniques. Guest hosted by Dr. Chase Young. Reference: Downs, J., & Mohr, K. A. J. (2024). A Multilevel Meta-Analysis of Synchronous Paired Oral Reading Techniques in Elementary Classrooms. Literacy Research and Instruction, 0(0), 1–28. https://doi.org/10.1080/19388071.2024.2319654 Downs, J., […]

Melissa Loftus and Lori Sappington join us on the show to discuss their recent book entitled “The Literacy 50: Real-World Answers to Questions About Reading That Keep You Up at Night” available through Scholastic. In this episode we discuss Melissa and Lori’s experiences in the classroom, what led them to start a podcast, and what […]

My guests for this episode are here to discuss the role of dispositions, motivation, and agency within the classroom. Their names are Dr. Margaret Vaughn and Dr. Dixie Massey. Dr. Margaret Vaughn is a professor in the Department of Teaching and Learning at Washington State University and Dr. Dixie Massey teaches at Seattle Pacific University. […]

My guest today is here to talk to use about reading profiles and how to use them in your classroom. Her name is Dr. Louise Spear-Swerling and she is a Professor Emerita in the Department of Special Education at the Southern Connecticut State University. In this episode we talk about her recent book The Structured […]

You’ve probably heard about syntax. Maybe you’ve seen a slide in a presentation that showed a strand of rope labeled as syntax. Or perhaps you learned about sentence structure in school and completed assignments where you had to diagram sentences. But do we really know what syntax is, why it matters, and how to teach […]

Teaching reading comprehension is a challenging task. There are many different aspects to teaching reading comprehension and doing it well is a feat. My guests for this episode are here to help us teach reading comprehension better. Their names are Kristin Conradi Smith, Tamara Williams, and Ellen Frackelton. In this episode we cover what the […]

What is the relationship between teachers’ knowledge, belief, self-efficacy, and instructional practice? My guest today studied 34 rural teachers to learn more. Her name is Dr. Karen Kehoe and she is the Director of Dyslexia Services at the Tennessee Center for the Study and Treatment of Dyslexia at Middle Tennessee State University.In this episode we […]

The last few years, it seems everyone’s been talking about phonemic awareness – what works best, how to teach it right, and even how much of it students really need. Today, I’ve got two experts with me, Dr. Florina Erbeli and Dr. Marianne Rice, and they’ve been digging deep into these questions and more.Dr. Erbeli […]

Welcome to another episode of TLP! In this episode, we discuss assessments— their cost, time, and accuracy. Two guests, Dr. Courtenay Barrett and Dr. Adrea Truckenmiller, partnered with a school to explore these questions. Dr. Barrett is an assistant professor in the school psychology program at Michigan State University, and Dr. Truckenmiller is an associate […]

2023 was a great year here at TLP. I am looking forward to an even better 2024. To kick things off I’ve prepared a special episode where I discuss my New Year’s resolution–thinking like a scientist. In this episode I describe what thinking like a scientist means, why it matters, and the three other frames […]

Dr. Evan Ortlieb joins us to discuss the 2023 edition of the What’s Hot in Literacy survey. This survey was started by Dr. Jack Cassidy in 1997 and is now conducted by Dr. Ortlieb and Dr. Stephanie Grote-Garcia. In this episode we discuss what was hot, what is recieving increased interest, and should be hot. […]

Dr. Dana Robertson joins us to discuss his chapter “Explicit Instruction” in the book “Principles of Effective Literacy Instruction.” We discuss his evolution of thought around explicit instruction, how to balance engagement and being explicit, and discuss the how explicit instruction relates to the gradual release of responsibility. We would love it if you consider […]

Dr. Molly Ness joins us to discuss her recent book ‘Read Alouds for All Learners: A Comprehensive Plan for Every Subject, Every Day, Grades PreK–8.’ In this episode we discuss the benefits, common misconceptions, steps for conducting a read aloud in your classroom and much more. Reference: Ness, M. (2023). Read Alouds for All Learners: […]

Dr. Margaret Vaughn and Dr. Seth Parsons join us to discuss their recent book “Accelerating Learning Recovery for All Students: Core Principles for Getting Literacy Growth Back on Track.” We discuss a range of topics including schoolwide action teams, MTSS, partnering with communities, and much more. I always learn a great deal from these two […]

Welcome to a new school year! I hope your summer was fantastic. In this episode I share what I’ve been up to, a bit of history about the podcast, and where the show is going. Be sure to check it out!

Dr. Young-Suk Grace Kim joins us on this episode to discuss the Direct and Indirect Effects Model of Reading (DIER). DIER builds on and adds to other models of reading (i.e., SVR or Scarborough’s Rope). It encompasses a wide range of factors, including morphological awareness, text reading fluency, and higher-order cognitions, all integrated into a […]

In this episode of TLP, I am thrilled to have Dr. Shayne Piasta on the show. Dr. Piasta is a listener-favorite from Episode 37 and is joining us to discuss alphabet instruction. Our conversation comes from an excellent chapter she wrote in the newly-released Handbook on the Science of Early Literacy (Cabell et al., 2023). […]

Welcome to the show! In March 2022, the IES released a practice guide for teachers entitled “Providing Reading Interventions for Students in Grades 4-9” In this episode, I interview four of the panelists who wrote this guide–Dr. Deborah Reed, Dr. Jade Wexler, Dr. Kimberly St. Martin, and Dr. Joe Dimino. This episode is jam-packed of […]

Thanks for a great 2022! Looking forward to TLP in 2023! In this episode, I talk about alignment between preschool writing standards and early elementary writing standards in state that adopted the Common Core. My guest is Laura Tortorelli who is an assistant professor in the Department of Teacher Education at Michigan State University. Highlights […]

Welcome to another episode of TLP! This is a fantastic episode where Dr. Danielle Colenbrander breaks down for us irregular words and what we know about these words from research. Dr. Colenbrander is a post-doctoral research fellow at Macquarie University and the lead author of two recent articles we discuss in the episode. A big […]

This is a great interview that covers a lot of ground. We discuss teacher content/pedagogical knowledge, phonological awareness instruction, and phonics instruction, why it all matters, and what it means for instruction. My guests are Dr. Shayne Piasta from the Ohio State University and Dr. Alida Hudson from Texas A&M University A big thanks to […]

Welcome to a new school year! This is a fantastic interview to kick things off. In this episode I am talking with Dr. Courtney Hattan and Dr. Sarah Lupo about knowledge, what it means for reading comprehension, and how to think about leveraging knowledge in the classroom. I am also excited to announce that there […]

Welcome to this episode of TLP! My guest is Dr. Kathleen Brown who directs the reading clinic in the college of education at the University of Utah. Her work focuses on beginning reading instruction, word recognition, instruction, comprehension, instruction, intervention models for at-risk and struggling readers, and teacher professional development in reading instruction and intervention. […]

Welcome to this episode of TLP! My guest is Dr. Devin Kearns, who is an Associate Professor of Special Education in the department of Educational Psychology at the University of Connecticut. Dr. Kearns’s research focuses on reading disability, including dyslexia and school-aged children with an emphasis on linking educational practice to cognitive science. In this […]

In this episode I interview Dr. Louise Spear-Swerling about her new book Structured Literacy Interventions: Teaching Students With Reading Difficulties Grades K-6. Dr. Louise Spear-Swerling is a professor emerita in the department of special education at Southern Connecticut State University. Her research interests have focused on reading development, literacy difficulties, and how teacher knowledge connects […]

Maybe you have bought materials from Teachers Pay Teachers to use in your classroom. Or maybe you borrowed curriculum from another teacher that you used to supplement your instruction in the classroom. This is supplemental curriculum at work and my guest today has some interesting findings about this phenomenon.His name is Daniel Silver and he […]