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The 9–5 Exit Plan
by Abraham Donatus
The 9–5 Exit Plan is a podcast about building financial freedom through entrepreneurship, modern business, and smart income strategies. Designed for ambitious graduates and young entrepreneurs, each episode shares practical lessons, real experiences, and actionable ideas to help you escape the traditional path and build success on your own terms.
Episodes
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Radical Acceptance: How to Stop Fighting Yourself with Moshe Klein
What if real change begins when you stop fighting yourself? In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with Moshe Klein, coach, speaker, and founder of Safe in Yourself, to explore Radical Acceptance and the deeper emotional patterns that shape how we live. Drawing on 15 years of working…
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How We Choose to Show Up: The Hidden Key to Success and Fulfilment with Marcy Axelrod
Are you truly showing up in your life, or are you simply going through the motions? In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with Marcy Axelrod, bestselling and award-winning author, television contributor, two-time TEDx speaker, and author of How We Choose to Show Up. Drawing on more than 20...
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Restored by the Storm: Finding Strength Through Life’s Greatest Challenges with Bill Derrick
What happens when the business you’ve spent decades building faces a major economic crisis, and just as recovery begins, life presents an even more personal challenge? In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with Bill Derrick, President of Derrick Companies, author, and speaker with more…
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You Are Not Your Past: Rewiring Your Identity with Leo Dulay
What if the biggest barrier to your next chapter is the identity you’ve carried from your last one? In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with Leo Dulay, transformational coach, hypnotherapist, NLP practitioner, and author of You Are Not Your Past. After spending 22 years at AT&T, Leo’s...
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Behind the Headlines: How Intelligence Shapes Global Decisions with Nadeem Iqbal
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with former U.S. intelligence analyst and national security expert Nadeem Iqbal, who brings more than 15 years of experience across intelligence, military operations, and U.S. defence policy. Having worked with the Defense Intelligence Agency…
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You’re Not Broken: You’re Running Someone Else’s Code with Eric Williams
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with relationship expert, Marriage and Family Therapist, former U.S. Army paratrooper, author, and creator of Origin Code and Done Carrying It Alone, Eric Williams. Eric brings a unique perspective shaped by military service, more than 20 years of...
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From Loss to Purpose: Turning Trials into Triumphs with Dr. OluWole Babatunde
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with Dr. Oluwole Babatunde, a physician-scientist, psychiatrist, epidemiologist, author, and servant-leader whose life story is a powerful example of resilience, faith, and purpose. Born and raised in Nigeria, Wole lost both of his parents before the…
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The Real Estate Tax Strategy Most Investors Overlook with Erik Oliver
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with Erik Oliver, Director of Client Solutions at Maven Cost Segregation and a nationally recognised cost segregation expert with more than a decade of experience. Erik explains how cost segregation works, how accelerated depreciation can potentially...
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From Addiction to Adventure: The Art of Reinventing Your Life with Dave Letterfly Knoderer
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with author, artist, entrepreneur, performer, and storyteller Dave Letterfly Knoderer. Dave’s extraordinary 50-plus-year creative journey has taken him from performing in the circus and mastering classical horsemanship to becoming an award-winning...
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From the Dojo to the Boardroom: The Discipline Behind Success with Mike Barefoot
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with entrepreneur, motivational speaker, staffing executive, and longtime martial artist Mike Barefoot. Mike has spent 37 years studying martial arts and more than 27 years in the staffing industry. During his career, he placed more than 1,000...
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From Classic TV to Creative Entrepreneurship with Brittany Lewis
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with filmmaker and content creator Brittany Lewis, who has built an audience of more than 18,000 followers by breaking down classic television from a filmmaker’s perspective. Brittany shares how her lifelong obsession with understanding the “why”…
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The Business Polygraph: Reinventing Your Career, and Building What Outlasts You with Andrew Brümmer
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with Andrew Brümmer — operator, entrepreneur, executive coach, author, and founder of Ardunan, known as The Business Polygraph. Andrew shares the story of a major professional inflection point in 2024 and how choosing to respond with intention rather...
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In a Rush to Go Nowhere: Finding Meaning in Work and Life with Tony Tenaglier
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with Tony Tenaglier — aerospace Quality Manager, PhD researcher in Industrial-Organizational Psychology, 500-hour Registered Yoga Teacher, author, and podcast host. Tony brings together psychology, engineering, leadership, flow science, and yoga...
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The Art of Courage: Politics, Cartoons, and the Legacy of Arthur H. Sloggatt with JL Coronado
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with author JL Coronado, whose book The Art of Courage preserves the work of Arthur H. Sloggatt, a World War II tank commander who later became a political cartoonist for the New York Daily Mirror. We explore Sloggatt’s journey, the role of political...
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The Power of Choice: Taking Responsibility for the Life You Create with Branch Isole
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with author, poet, storyteller, and podcast host Branch Isole. With 22 books and a background spanning teaching, corporate sales and marketing, entrepreneurship, and spiritual study, Branch has spent decades exploring the choices and consequences that...
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Kickass Consistency: How to Build a Business That Runs Without You with Marianne Page
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with business systems expert, bestselling author, and speaker Marianne Page. Marianne spent nearly 30 years as a senior manager with McDonald’s, where she learned firsthand how clear systems, simple standards, strong culture, and consistent leadership...
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From Hollywood to Ground Zero: Solange Schwalbe’s Story of Courage and Service
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with Emmy Award-winning motion picture sound editor and author Solange Schwalbe. Solange spent more than three decades working in Hollywood, contributing to major productions including The Goonies, Gremlins, Die Hard, Pirates of the Caribbean, Black…
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Stop Overpaying Taxes: How Entrepreneurs Can Keep More of What They Earn with Sarah Jones
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with CPA, tax strategist, entrepreneur, and founder of Sarah Jones CPA, Sarah Jones. Sarah shares how entrepreneurs can think differently about taxes, profitability, cash flow, and wealth-building. We discuss the difference between traditional tax...
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Building a Business That Gives You Freedom with Lady Jen Du Plessis
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with Lady Jen Du Plessis, Dame Commander, Business Scaling Architect, Sovereign Leadership Mentor, bestselling author, and international speaker. After more than 40 years in finance, entrepreneurship, consulting, and business ownership, Jen has…
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Heart-Driven Sales: How to Grow Your Business Without Pressure with Marc Von Musser
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with Marc Von Musser, global Heart Leader™, sales and coaching expert, and former Director of Coaching and Sales Training for Tony Robbins. With more than 35 years of experience in sales and business development, Marc has helped businesses improve…
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Finding Purpose After Survival: Dean Weitenhagen’s Journey Through Love and Life’s Biggest Questions
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with Dean Weitenhagen to discuss an extraordinary journey through love, adversity, survival, and the search for purpose. After his partner Patsy suffered a debilitating stroke, Dean travelled with her to China in search of treatment and hope. Soon...
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80-Hour Weeks to Profitable Systems: Building a Business That Works Without You with Eric Svedberg
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with Eric Svedberg, owner of European Autowerks and founder of Fuel Coaching. Eric began working in the automotive industry at 16 and has spent more than 30 years building and operating businesses. Along the way, he experienced the realities many...
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When Success Stops Feeling Right: Finding Purpose and Making Your Next Pivot with Dean Taylor
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with Dean Taylor, speaker, coach, and mentor who helps high-achieving people reconnect with purpose, regain clarity, and make meaningful pivots in life and work. Dean shares his personal journey through real estate, financial setbacks, faith…
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Beautifully Dysfunctional: Addiction, Loss, and the Fight to Keep Going with Troy Haslinger
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with Troy Haslinger—TEDx speaker, medical sales professional, ultra-marathon runner, charity founder, and author of Beautifully Dysfunctional. Troy takes us back to a life-changing day in April 2011, when he learned that his dream job was slipping away...
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Creativity in the Age of AI: Building a Career That Stays Human with Tara Collins
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with creative director, marketer, agency owner, mentor, and Paper Crane co-founder Tara Collins. With more than 25 years of experience in the creative industry, Tara has seen the evolution of agencies, corporate creative teams, digital marketing,...
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From Brewing Beer to Building White Claw: The Business of Beverage Innovation with Tony Vieira
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with veteran brewmaster and beverage executive Tony Vieira. With 36 years in the brewing industry, Tony’s career has taken him from Anheuser-Busch’s Brewmaster Training Program to Coors, Coors International, FedEx, MillerCoors, and Mark Anthony…
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From Manuscript to Published Book: The Truth About Publishing with Anne Macdonald
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with bestselling author, editor, publishing professional, book coach, and Brooks StoryHouse founder Anne Macdonald. Anne has worked across multiple sides of the publishing industry, including acquisitions, editing, production, and author development.…
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AI Won’t Replace You—But Someone Using AI Might: Reclaiming Your Career with Sasikanth Battula
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with AI pioneer, Silicon Valley leader, Hola AI founder, and author Sasikanth Battula. We explore one of the biggest questions facing professionals today: How do you protect your career and remain valuable as artificial intelligence transforms the...
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Understanding D Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: History, Evidence & Competing with Steve C. Markoff
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with researcher, author, educator, and ProCon.org founder Steve C. Markoff. Steven’s latest book, An Improbable Solution to the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict, examines historical events, population changes, land ownership, legal claims, and quotations...
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The Franchise Path to Financial Freedom with Jon Ostenson
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with Jon Ostenson, Founder and CEO of FranBridge Consulting, an Inc. 5000 company, top 0.1% franchise consultant, and bestselling author of Non-Food Franchising. Jon draws on his experience as a former franchise president and multi-brand franchisee to...
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30 Years of Entrepreneurship: Building Businesses, Audiences & Freedom with Jerad Hill
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with entrepreneur, YouTuber, educator, photographer, husband, and father Jerad Hill. Jerad started his entrepreneurial journey at a young age and has now spent nearly three decades working for himself, building businesses across web development…
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From Purpose to Impact: Public Health, Resilience & Intentional Living with Venchele Saint Dic
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with public health writer, author, founder, and doctoral student Venchele Saint Dic. Venchele shares her journey through public health, community service, writing, resilience, and personal development, including the experiences that shaped her…
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From Corporate Executive to Entrepreneur: The Real Side of Building a Business with Sean Jones
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with entrepreneur, author, speaker, and former corporate executive Sean B. Jones. After spending 30 years managing multi-billion-dollar P&Ls, Sean left corporate America and entered entrepreneurship with his wife, Amy. Together, they built What’s In…
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Why People Buy: The Psychology Behind Business Growth with Rich Smith
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with Rich Smith—executive advisor, behavioural marketing strategist, investor, and CMO with more than 30 years of experience leading growth across multiple industries. Rich shares how his lifelong curiosity about human decision-making led him to...
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Beyond Left and Right: Rethinking Democracy and Political Reform with Evan Jaqua
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with Evan Jaqua, international business development specialist, entrepreneur, and founder of the Solutions Party. Drawing on his experiences in the United States, Japan, South America, and China, Evan shares how seeing different cultures has shaped his...
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More Than Saved: Finding Purpose, Joy, and a Deeper Faith with Dr. Gerald “Dr. G” Robison
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with pastor, Bible teacher, author, and international speaker Dr. Gerald “Dr. G” Robison. Dr. G has pastored churches across three continents, trained Bible teachers in more than 25 countries, and written around 20 books. After facing tongue cancer and...
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The Mindset of a World Champion: Competing at the Highest Level with Michael Kelly
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with world champion grappler, longtime wrestler, and coach Michael Kelly. Michael has built an extraordinary career competing around the world, winning multiple world championships, earning numerous medals for Team USA, and continuing to compete at an...
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From Engineer to $2.1B in Real Estate: The Wealth Elevator with Lane Kawaoka
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with real estate investor, author, and former engineer Lane Kawaoka. Lane’s journey began with a traditional engineering career and his first rental property investment in 2009. Over time, he transitioned from individual rental properties into larger...
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You Don’t Get a Rewind: Living Your Bucket List Life with Jen Aitken
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with travel advisor, adventure enthusiast, and side-quest queen Jen Aitken. Jen’s perspective on life was shaped at just four years old when she survived a devastating car accident that took her father’s life and left her with lifelong injuries. That...
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The Monster Killing Your Business: How to Stop Employee Turnover with Clark Ingram
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with Clark A. Ingram, Founder and President of People Profits and author of Churn. Clark began his career in finance before being pushed into human resources after his CEO recognised his ability to solve complex problems. What he discovered changed the...
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The No BS Guide to Surviving the Healthcare Maze with Tiffany Auvil
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with registered nurse, functional medicine health coach, and caregiver coach Tiffany Auvil. After more than two decades working inside the healthcare system, Tiffany found herself navigating that same system from the perspective of a caregiver when her...
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What Color Is Your Brain? Understanding People, Communication & Success with Sheila Glāzov
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with best-selling author, personality expert, professional speaker, educator, and coach Sheila Glāzov, creator of What Color Is Your Brain?®. Sheila’s colourful and practical framework helps people understand the different ways we think, communicate,...
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From Tragedy to Innovation: Building a Life of Resilience with Dr. Steve McGough
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with Dr. Steve McGough, co-founder of Women and Couples Wellness, inventor of the hi® massage system, researcher, author, and entrepreneur. Steve’s entrepreneurial journey began after a devastating personal tragedy involving the loss of his son and his...
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From Interest to Clients: The Marketing System Every Coach Needs with Robbie Mould
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with Robbie Mould, Managing Director of Mativus and creator of the Interest-to-Client Framework. Robbie works with experienced coaches who are already creating interest through networking, speaking, content, podcasts, and referrals—but aren’t...
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From a Question to Richard Branson to Building an HVAC Marketing Empire with Shaurya Jain
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with entrepreneur, international speaker, SEO expert, and founder of Honest HVAC Marketing Agency, Shaurya Jain. Shaurya’s entrepreneurial journey began with a life-changing moment as a teenager when he had the opportunity to ask Richard Branson a...
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It’s Never Too Late: From Failed Businesses to Financial Freedom with Kerry Damiano
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with entrepreneur, travel creator, pageant coach, fashion and jewelry designer, and Ms. World Traveler Kerry Damiano. Kerry has travelled to more than 130 countries and all 50 U.S. states while building a unique life and personal brand around travel,...
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The Money Lessons That Can Shape Your Child’s Financial Future with Greg Junge
Today’s guest is Greg Junge — entrepreneur, author, real estate investor, and co-owner of Your Clean Books, a bookkeeping company he operates with his wife. Greg is also the founder of Money Mindset Academy and the author of Teen Money Mindset and Parent Money Mindset. Through his work, Greg…
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Can You Actually Learn While You Sleep? The Science & Startup Behind REMory with Brandon Christian
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with entrepreneur and REMory founder Brandon Christian to explore the fascinating science of targeted memory reactivation and the journey of turning that research into a real product. Brandon discovered the research while searching for ways to help his...
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From Struggle to Purpose: Noah May’s Journey of Resilience
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with podcast host, journalist, and Auburn University graduate Noah May. Noah is the host of three podcasts — lethal venom, Southern Reads, and Music Talks — where he explores honest conversations around life, books, music, and the experiences that…
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Earn From Anywhere: Building Businesses, Buying Digital Assets & Living Globally with Mike Swigunski
In this episode of 9–5 Exit Plan, I sit down with online entrepreneur, investor, bestselling author, and TEDx speaker Mike Swigunski. Mike helped scale Empire Flippers as employee #4 and was involved in more than $120 million in online business acquisitions. He has since built multiple remote...
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The 9–5 Exit Plan is a podcast about building financial freedom through entrepreneurship, modern business, and smart income strategies. Designed for ambitious graduates and young entrepreneurs, each episode shares practical lessons, real experiences, and actionable ideas to help you escape the traditional path and build success on your own terms.
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Abraham Donatus
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