The Art Of Imperfect Adulting

If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIn this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Kimberly Tara about navigating career pivots, entrepreneurship, and the realities of balancing family life with professional ambition. Kimberly Tara is based in the suburbs of Charlotte, North Carolina. Kimberly shares her journey from aspiring chemical engineer to CPA firm owner. Listeners will gain insight into the pressures of high achievement, handling burnout, the challenges of growing a business while raising four young kids, and the confidence required to own both your finances and your dreams.About Kimberly Tara:Kimberly Tara is a CPA, Certified Tax Coach, author, podcast host and founder of The Tara CPA firm and TaxMove. She's also a wife and mom to four amazing kiddos all born in 5 and a half years (no twins!). She's on a mission to help profitable business owners have access to reliable tax strategy, so they can actually use their business to pay less taxes instead of more. Kimberly believes that the definition of success isn't about more money, it's about making the most of what you have on your terms.Main Topics Covered:Pivoting from chemical engineering to accounting mid-college: decision-making and overcoming feelings of failure.The realities of financial planning and debt after changing majors.Choosing between corporate career tracks and entrepreneurship, and how observing workplace role models can clarify life priorities.Experiencing and identifying burnout as a high-achieving parent and business owner.Transitioning from solopreneur to building and leading a team, including the operational and mindset shifts required.The societal pressures on women to “do it all,” people-pleasing, and the importance of setting boundaries.Strategies for sustainable business growth, scalable systems, and redefining personal and professional success.Empowering women to take charge of their finances and believe in their ability to thrive as business owners.Timestamps:[00:00:00] Show intro; Kimberly’s move from New Orleans to Charlotte, NC, and what she loves about it[00:00:44] Reflections on generational identity and why it matters for the conversation[00:02:39] Original college plans: chemical engineering, internships, and the hard pivot to accounting[00:04:25] The emotional process of changing majors and facing internalized feelings of failure[00:06:51] Financial impacts of switching majors, scholarships lost, and student debt[00:08:14] Starting a new career in public accounting; the importance of the CPA credential[00:09:39] Why Kimberly chose a medium-sized firm over the Big 4[00:13:29] The partnership track in accounting and a moment of clarity: witnessing a manager balance work and motherhood[00:16:39] Choosing personal over professional milestones; how representation informs life decisions[00:22:04] Early career burnout, and feeling pressured to perform in every life role[00:27:17] The ongoing influence of people-pleasing and perfectionism[00:30:26] Deciding whether to stay small or grow the firm; math, motherhood, and management[00:35:35] The operational reboot: packages, team-building, and shifting systems to support scale[00:39:45] Why Kimberly shares her story—empowering women in business and financial confidence[00:41:11] Redefining business ownership for freelancers and digital creators[00:42:25] Kimberly’s recommended read: “Remarkably Bright Creatures”[00:43:30] Favorite practical purchase: The Dyson stick vacuum[00:44:53] Amy’s wrap-up, how to join the community, and podcast closing notesABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges. These are conversations with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: https://taracpafirm.com or https://taxmove.ioGET KIMBERLY TARA'S SPECIAL OFFER: Name: Free Tax Savings CalculatorDescription: Find out how much you're overpaying on business incomes taxesValue: FreeLink: https://taxmove.ioNote from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.Never Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comIf you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofjFor Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stonebefore that I used Kit. Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors

If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIn this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Leisa Reid about facing fears and stepping onto the stand-up comedy stage for the first time as an adult. Based in Rancho Santa Margarita, Orange County, CA, Leisa shares how she challenged her self-doubt, pushed personal boundaries, and translated her background in public speaking into a one-night-only comedy experience. Listeners will discover how leaning into discomfort can spark transformation, why resisting an opportunity can be a sign to pursue it, and the behind-the-scenes process of writing and performing a stand-up set.About Leisa Reid:Leisa Reid is known as The Speaking Strategy Mentor and is the Founder of Get Speaking Gigs Now™ and the CEO of the International Speaker Network™.Having delivered over 600 talks and authored 9 books, Leisa has helped business owners scale their impact beyond 1:1- through the power of speaking. She believes speaking isn’t just about giving a talk; it’s about creating a consistent strategy to get booked, stay booked, and attract clients for the lifetime of your business.Leisa is passionate about showing experts how to use speaking as a serious revenue pathway, without the pressure of being perfect or “salesy.” Her down-to-earth approach and proven system empower business owners to confidently share their message, grow their business, and make the impact they were born to create.Quote from the Episode:“There’s no one who can do your pushups for you when you’re on stage. It is you, you, and you, baby. And it can feel scary. It can feel vulnerable, but that’s also the juicy part of it.” — Leisa ReidTimestamps:[00:00:00] Introduction to the show & what listeners can expect[00:00:41] Leisa’s home in Rancho Santa Margarita, CA, and what she loves about it[00:01:36] Generation identifier and connecting with the Gen X audience[00:02:21] How few people actually knew about Leisa’s stand-up comedy venture[00:03:44] Leisa’s lifelong resistance to stand-up comedy and why she thought it was the scariest speaking format[00:05:07] Quick-wittedness versus planned jokes; discovering personal comedic style[00:06:42] The story behind Leisa being invited — and initially refusing — to perform stand-up[00:08:26] Setting a personal deadline: making stand-up her birthday event[00:09:04] Why strong resistance sometimes means it’s time to say yes[00:12:20] Coaching preparations, writing struggles, and tailoring comedy to her true voice[00:16:07] Researching and choosing the right open mic environment[00:18:04] Doing a dry run and the contrast of performing for strangers versus a supportive crowd[00:19:25] Audience reactions and support from friends and family[00:21:12] Will Leisa keep doing comedy? Writing new material and documenting ideas[00:24:02] Stand-up comedy as a hobby, not a new career—balancing enjoyment and practicality[00:25:28] Reflecting on how trying comedy impacted Leisa’s confidence, life, and relationships[00:27:17] Hopes for listeners: pushing through discomfort and sharing your unique brilliance[00:28:32] Exploring vulnerability, fear, and the “safe, risky yes” in adult growth[00:30:09] Leisa’s professional work helping entrepreneurs craft their signature talks[00:33:07] Changing fears of public speaking and how social dynamics have shifted[00:36:04] Special offer for listeners: Leisa’s tips for public speaking and booking gigs[00:36:54] Leisa’s podcast/media recommendations and a lighthearted discussion of favorite showsABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges. These are conversations with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: https://GetSpeakingGigsNow.comGET LEISA'S SPECIAL OFFER: Want speaking gigs? Get FREE Access to the “5 Top Tips to Get Speaking Gigs Now™”Link to ACCESS: https://GetSpeakingGigsNow.com/tips$97 ValueNote from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.If you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofjFor Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stonebefore that I used Kit. Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors

If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIn this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Elicia Ybarra about the intricate relationship between martial arts, self-defense, trauma, and personal healing. Elicia, based outside Los Angeles, California, opens up about her journey from martial arts prodigy to survivor of emotional and physical manipulation and abuse. Elicia is a lifelong martial artist, dedicated women's self-defense instructor, and passionate advocate for empowering women to live confidently and fearlessly. With over three decades of martial arts experience, including a 4th dan black belt in Taekwondo and a 1st dan black belt in Hapkido, Elicia has transformed her personal journey of resilience into a mission to uplift others. She is the founder of Pretty Hands, Hard Punches.Main Topics Covered:How childhood chaos and trauma led Elicia to find structure and identity through martial arts.The role of martial arts in fostering confidence—but also the hidden dangers of imbalance in power and authority within insular communities.The process of grooming, manipulation, and the often-missed warning signs, especially for young women in high-trust environments.Redefining self-defense: why emotional intelligence, boundaries, and situational awareness are just as vital as physical fighting skills.Elicia’s experience escaping cycles of abuse—from martial arts instructors to romantic partners—and recognizing patterns to break free.The impact of postpartum depression and motherhood in bringing unresolved trauma to the surface, eventually prompting deep healing work.The creation of Pretty Hands Hard Punches, Elicia’s business focused on empowering women to recognize red flags, set boundaries, and advocate for themselves inside and outside martial arts.Practical advice for women on trusting intuition, refusing to sideline discomfort, and shifting the definition of self-defense to include emotional and psychological empowerment.Timestamps:[00:00:00] Amy introduces Elicia and her Southern California roots[00:02:13] Elicia’s early love for martial arts and personal motivation[00:05:07] Martial arts styles explained—taekwondo, karate, hapkido, and the importance of structure for kids[00:10:03] Martial arts as sanctuary from a chaotic childhood and the soothing power of routine[00:15:27] The illusion of safety—why physical prowess didn’t prevent Elicia from falling victim to grooming and manipulation[00:18:17] How grooming began: trusting authority, ignoring discomfort, and escalating boundary crossings[00:24:55] Elicia reflects on the normalization of inappropriate dynamics and the later realization of abuse[00:34:07] How community and family reactions reinforced isolation after she came forward[00:38:41] Escaping one abusive environment, only to face another in a professional martial arts setting[00:43:40] The breaking point: realizing her true role in the toxic gym and finally walking away[00:49:06] The cycle of self-loathing, toxic relationships, and eventually, a decisive break for self-love and healing[00:52:18] Postpartum depression as a catalyst for deep self-reflection, therapy, and transformation[00:54:05] Transitioning from teaching fighting techniques to empowering women through boundaries, self-worth, and intuition[00:58:16] Why most “self-defense” tools aren’t enough—advocating for listening to intuition over guns or pepper spray[01:00:28] Free resources from Elicia: Safety guide and Ideal You worksheet in the show notes[01:01:14] Elicia’s recommendations: From Now On podcast and the book The Gift of Fear[01:03:53] A lighthearted close—Elicia’s American flag dress and embracing celebrationABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges. These are conversations with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: www.prettyhandshardpunches.comGET ELICIA'S SPECIAL OFFER: Free Safety E-Guide Linkhttps://www.prettyhandshardpunches.com/product-page/boundaries-bravery-self-defense-strategies-for-women-everywherePromo Code: EmpowerHerFree Ideal You Worksheet: https://www.prettyhandshardpunches.com/product-page/creating-the-ideal-youPromo Code: Ideal YouNote from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.

If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportAmy Stone speaks with Emilie Karun about breaking free from perfectionist parenting ideals and redefining what it means to want “more than motherhood.” Hailing from central Illinois, Emilie shares her journey from aspiring to be the perfect stay-at-home mom to embracing her own dreams and becoming a life and success coach. The episode explores how societal expectations, family influences, and internal beliefs shape women’s choices, and how Emilie navigated through guilt, identity loss, and self-discovery to create a life and career she loves.About Emilie Karun:Emilie is a life+success coach and founder of The Good Girl Revolution, dedicated to helping women break up with the rules that rule their life so they can claim everything they were taught not to want.Main Topics Covered:Societal pressures and generational messages about women’s value, motherhood, and self-sacrifice, especially for Gen X and MillennialsThe challenge of losing (or never truly knowing) one’s identity in motherhood—and how motherhood intensifies existing insecuritiesHow extended family dynamics, upbringing, and cultural background can shape both conscious and unconscious life expectationsThe “good girl” programming and its role in fostering perfectionism, people-pleasing, and self-doubtBreaking free from limiting beliefs and learning to trust one’s own desires, even when they don’t align with prescribed gender roles or family/cultural normsThe pivotal role of community, honest conversation, and seeing one’s experience validated by others (“the crack that lets the light in”)How entrepreneurship and life-coaching became transformational tools for self-actualization and lasting changePractical recommendations for cultivating self-awareness and untangling personal desires from societal rulebooksQuote from the Episode:“I thought I lost myself in motherhood. But I came to realize later—no, I just never knew myself to begin with. And motherhood will reveal that to you because it will amplify everything. Every insecurity, every fear, every doubt, every place that you don't know yourself or trust yourself, motherhood will serve that right up to you.”—Emilie KarunTimestamps:00:00 Show intro; Amy Stone welcomes Emilie Karun from central Illinois01:44 Emilie Karun identifies as a proud Gen Xer; family background & generational influences03:30 Early career ambitions, State Farm job, and the dream of being a stay-at-home mom05:14 Reflections on growing up with a working mom, latchkey kid experience, and its (lack of) influence on Emilie’s own decisions06:45 Societal messages about selfless motherhood, the “good girl” fantasy, and needing to be perfect09:41 Navigating social and family environments—how “fitting in” shaped ideas of success13:15 Parenting daughters, changing media messages, and if the perfection pressure still exists17:04 Why women trade their own desires for approval, belonging, and success20:35 The breaking point: realizing “happily ever after” wasn’t enough, discovering Glennon Doyle, and the first “crack in the wall”26:53 Feeling stuck, resisting the “mommy and me” and PTO mom roles, and starting to question old rules31:04 The life-changing realization: there is no one right way to be a mom, just opinions34:30 A slow, years-long evolution into self-permission and possibility35:50 Launching a blog, falling in love with writing, and discovering life coaching39:46 How entrepreneurship forced massive personal growth and self-discovery42:44 Emilie’s current work: helping women reclaim self-trust and burn the rulebook46:02 Book and podcast recommendations—why fiction has surprising power for self-knowledge48:09 Unsupervised online shopping: the joy of simple tools and supplements for perimenopause self-care50:03 Closing thoughts and where to connect with Emilie Karun onlineABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges. These are conversations with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: www.emiliekarun.com Her podcast: https://www.emiliekarun.com/podcasts/the-good-girl-revolutionGET EMILIE'S SPECIAL OFFER: Burn the Rulebook 7 Day Telegram Audio Experience: $44 offer free to your listeners. https://www.emiliekarun.com/offers/MWpDLqN2/checkoutNote from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.Never Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comIf you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofjFor Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stonebefore that I used Kit. Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors

If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIn this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Kym Coco about the intersection of grief, transformation, and the healing power of play through golf. Joining from the serene Sierra Nevadas, north of Lake Tahoe, Kym shares her deeply personal journey of losing her husband and how embarking on an ambitious goal to play 100 new golf courses as a way to help her navigate loss and redefine her future. Listeners will come away with a richer understanding of the non-linear path of grief, the importance of intentional structure, and how embracing new experiences can foster both healing and growth.About Kym Coco:Kym Coco is an author, nature-loving yogi, and dog mama of two Staffies. She holds a Master’s Degree in Sports Kinesiology, and two 500-hour Yoga Teacher Training Certificates. Both topics were woven into the classes she taught at California State University, Chico, and the workshops she taught around the country with her late husband, Stephen Thompson. Coco now shares powerful tools for well-being through her latest book “Miracle on the Mountainside” and her blog, Swagtail.com. When she’s not at her residence in the Sierra Nevada mountains, she’s on the hunt for great golf courses and scenic vistas in her Sprinter Van.Main Topics Covered:Innovative strategies for navigating grief, including using structure and play to process loss and rediscover joy.The story behind Kym’s 100 new golf courses challenge—a personal framework to honor her late husband and rebuild her sense of self.How emotional kinesiology shaped Kym’s partnership, her husband’s legacy, and her approach to healing.The importance of creating new experiences to avoid emotional landmines tied to familiar places and memories.Lessons learned about flexibility, letting goals evolve, and celebrating progress rather than just completion.The significance of allowing oneself to feel the full emotional arc of grief and the value of slowing down during major life transitions.Harnessing community, connection, and playfulness as tools for recovery and personal evolution.Turning personal projects into creative expressions—Kym’s journey from caregiving to authoring memoirs and new resources for others.Timestamps:[00:00:04] Show intro and Amy’s welcome; Kym’s location in the Sierra Nevadas[00:01:09] Finding peace and connection to nature after loss[00:02:04] Introducing the dual topics of grief and golf in Kym’s story[00:03:33] Meeting Steve, their background in (emotional) kinesiology, and building a life together[00:04:42] Steve’s advice: embrace structure after loss; the origins of the 100 golf course challenge[00:05:53] Emotional kinesiology explained and setting the stage for Kym’s healing journey[00:06:10] Steve’s motorcycle accident, lifelong health struggles, and a pivotal hospitalization[00:07:31] Open conversations about end-of-life, illness, and preparing for grief[00:08:22] Why 100 new golf courses? Crafting a framework for recovery[00:09:10] Early attempts at golf after Steve’s death, emotional setbacks, and perseverance[00:11:04] Co-authoring memoirs and the process of sorting stories for healing and legacy[00:13:39] How play, presence, and golf became essential tools for moving through grief[00:16:26] The challenge’s timeframe: still in progress, and why “new” courses matter[00:19:21] Intentionally choosing novelty to avoid emotional landmines in familiar places[00:21:22] Travel, van life, and adapting the project with life’s disruptions[00:23:20] How intuition and community recommendations shaped the journey[00:23:53] The power of “the space between each shot” and learning to savor the unknown[00:26:12] How grief and the 100 course challenge transformed Kym’s pace and sense of self[00:28:00] The role of playfulness and community in healing[00:30:00] Letting go of perfection in both the challenge and the grief process[00:34:05] Kym’s message for listeners: redefining how we “flow love” through all forms of loss[00:37:44] Special audience offer: Maximize Your Attention training and where to connect[00:37:46] Kym’s media recommendation (Dan Brown’s “The Secret of Secrets”) and favorite online findABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: https://swagtail.com/GET KYM COCO'S SPECIAL OFFER: Name: Maximize your Attention TrainingA video training to maximize your attention and increase your energy, focus, and presence in daily life. The practical tips can be implemented right away to add harmony to your relationships and more time in your schedule from increased productivity.Value: $99 Special offer: freeLink: Swagtail.com/podcastNote from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.Never Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comIf you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofjFor Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stonebefore that I used Kit. Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors

If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIn this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Andy Vargo about his journey of embracing personal identity and authenticity in adulthood. Andy, who hails from Tacoma, Washington, shares his story of coming out as gay at age 40 after decades of hiding his true self due to societal and familial expectations. This conversation explores the challenges of aligning your inner identity with your outward persona, the impact of masking on relationships and decision-making, and why living authentically can fundamentally transform your life.About Andy Vargo:Andy Vargo is a speaker, author, and life-change coach who helps individuals and organizations embrace their uniqueness and turn perceived weaknesses into strengths through his “Own Your Awkward” approach. After making significant life changes, including coming out at 40, he brings a deeply personal and relatable perspective to conversations around authenticity, growth, and leadership. Through his work, Andy blends humor, real-life experience, and practical tools to help people show up more confidently in both their personal and professional lives.Main Topics Covered:Navigating the process of coming out later in life: emotional challenges, family dynamics, and the obstacles of shedding years of masking.How growing up in a faith-based, traditional environment shapes identity and limits perceived options for self-expression.The ripple effects of hidden truths: how chronic masking leads to unhealthy relationships, work struggles, and poor boundaries.Finding and practicing authenticity—why embracing who you are frees up mental energy, increases decisiveness, and attracts true community.Shifting family and social relationships post-divorce and coming out, including the journey from initial upheaval to creating new support systems.The evolution of LGBTQ+ representation and acceptance, and how that changes the coming out experience for younger generations.Lessons on courage, vulnerability, and making big life changes—regardless of age or the “perfect timing.”Why sharing your story, even when it feels ordinary or uncomfortable, empowers others to embrace their unique truths.Timestamps:[00:00:41] Andy shares why Tacoma, Washington is home and what he loves about its community[00:02:06] Introducing the topic: identity and coming out at 40[00:03:01] Raising teenagers while coming out; reflections on timing and imperfection[00:04:23] Andy opens up about always knowing his identity, masking, and struggling with labels[00:06:38] The absence of positive gay role models in youth and the impact of stereotypes[00:08:54] Marrying young, secrecy, and fear of being “found out”[00:09:41] How hiding identity led to unhealthy relationships and self-doubt[00:12:20] Universal struggles with authenticity and being seen[00:13:42] Shifts in societal attitudes toward LGBTQ+ youth—Andy’s observations as a parent[00:15:05] The reality of post-coming out: job loss, isolation, and starting over[00:17:16] Surviving the “empty elevator” and rebuilding after major life transitions[00:19:48] Family reactions: the complex dynamics of acceptance and adjustment[00:21:05] Why coming out can feel like the “easier” path vs. confronting unhealthy relationships[00:23:50] The end of marriage—a process, not an event[00:27:47] Relearning authenticity: giving up the exhaustive effort of masking[00:33:30] How authenticity makes everyday decisions easier and life more fulfilling[00:35:45] Andy’s motivation for sharing his story—helping others show up more authentically[00:39:54] Personal recommendations and resources for growth[00:40:32] Favorite tools: from podcast mics to foldable kayaks[00:43:14] Closing thoughts, ways to connect, and episode wrap-upABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: https://www.awkwardcareer.com/GET ANDY'S SPECIAL OFFER: FREE Download: Discover Your Hidden SuperpowerA short, free worksheet to help people start identifying their own awkward traits and reframe them as something useful instead of something to hide.Click the link to access with a free download: https://www.awkwardcareer.com/discover-your-hidden-superpower-worksheet/Note from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.If you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofjFor Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stonebefore that I used Kit. Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors

Amy Stone, host of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, shares a behind-the-scenes update on the show’s evolution, celebrates a top 3% global ranking, and invites listeners into her own journey of embracing life transitions, travel, and creative projects.Topics in this episode:• Milestone moment: The show is now ranked in the top 3% globally by Listen Notes 🎉• Candid reflections on changing the show’s release schedule and what it really means for indie creators• Behind the scenes of Amy’s new nomadic adventure (and the story behind the new music and shifting backgrounds!)• unMuted Creator Collective Amy’s new project supporting women media creators• Honest talk about midlife changes, personal growth, and hormonesunMuted Creator Directory: https://www.imperfectadulting.com/unmuted-creator-directoryCreator Showcase and Creator Roundtable: https://www.youtube.com/@unMutedCreatorCollective #ImperfectAdulting #PodcastBehindTheScenes #RealStories #PersonalGrowth #LifeTransitions #WomenCreators

If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIn this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Sarah Paris about identity loss and transformation through the early challenges of motherhood. Based in Raleigh, North Carolina, Sarah shares her personal story of postpartum struggle, the unexpected realities of new motherhood, and how she rebuilt her sense of self through community, therapy, and self-care. Listeners will gain insight into the often unseen emotional toll of early parenting, the importance of seeking support, and practical ways to reclaim joy as a caregiver.About Sarah Paris:Sarah Parise is an ACE Certified Personal Trainer, Perinatal Wellness Specialist, and mom who helps women reclaim their energy, identity, and sense of calm through small, sustainable habits. With over 20 years of experience in fitness and wellness, Sarah focuses on wellness practices that fit into real life, not perfection or pressure.After struggling in her early years of motherhood, she shifted the way she approached health, moving away from all or nothing thinking and toward consistency, self trust, and regulation. Through her signature 2% approach, Sarah teaches women how tiny daily choices can create lasting change for themselves and the families watching them.Main Topics Covered:The emotional and physical impact of traumatic delivery and sleep deprivation for new momsRecognizing and addressing postpartum depression, rage, and guilt even when not outwardly obviousThe myth of the “selfless mother” and the societal pressure to prioritize children above self-careFinding and building a support system—including therapy, pelvic floor specialists, and community—for maternal mental healthThe dangers of isolation and the power of sharing honest stories about parenting strugglesHow early experiences as a daughter and oldest sibling shaped Sarah’s ideas of motherhoodNavigating faith, family guilt, and self-judgment in defining what “good mothering” meansPractical self-care: Incorporating small daily rituals and movement for mothers at any stageQuote from the Episode:"I just feel like I have to do something for myself that's just me to make me feel like I'm a human again…you showed up. Just keep showing up." — Sarah ParisTimestamps:[00:00:20] Amy welcomes Sarah; home in Raleigh, NC, and weather talk[00:01:16] Sarah’s generational identity—growing up Gen X/Xennial[00:02:15] When did Sarah know she wanted kids? Journey from “no way” as a teacher to becoming a mom at 36[00:03:44] Pregnancy experience—health, insomnia, and delivery expectations[00:06:25] Difficult labor and traumatic birth story; NICU moments and rapid detour from a “birth plan”[00:08:32] How birth trauma and loss of control foreshadow motherhood’s unpredictability[00:09:36] Sarah’s personality as a “planner who rolls with the punches,” and the complications of a broken tailbone during delivery[00:11:56] Why postpartum trauma and fatigue matter for emotional recovery[00:13:18] Sarah’s six-month postpartum breaking point—exhaustion, rage, isolation in Santa Monica[00:15:10] Moment of crisis on the Palisades park bluff and the decision to seek help[00:17:20] First steps toward self-care: yoga, small rituals, and building a new support network[00:21:09] How family modeling (her mother’s selflessness) shaped Sarah’s motherhood ideals and inner critic[00:23:11] Navigating faith, Catholic guilt, and expectations of sacrificial mothering[00:25:05] Why staying home with kids isn’t for everyone; judgment and permission to choose other paths[00:27:29] Sarah’s background in fitness and how athletics/yoga fed her healing[00:32:16] Could people around her see the struggle? Masking, invisible pain, and missed opportunities for intervention[00:36:26] The breaking point with friends and the importance of honest conversations in mom communities[00:41:03] Why Sarah shares her story: to fight maternal loneliness, and the need for a “team” to support mothers[00:44:39] Sarah’s coaching—emphasizing confidence, not weight loss, for moms; 2% a day to yourself[00:47:41] Favorite podcast/fun recommendations, and gold platform sneakers for daily joyABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: http://www.greatdaysbysarah.comGET SARAH’S'S SPECIAL OFFER:Name of the product offered:7 Day Energy BoostPodcast listeners can access the 7 Day Energy Boost for just $7.Note from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.If you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofjFor Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stonebefore that I used Kit. Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors

If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIn this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Crissy Fishbane about using physical challenge as a tool for transformation during major life transitions. Based in Raleigh, North Carolina, Crissy shares how leaving her teaching career amid burnout led her to embark on the famed Camino de Santiago pilgrimage. The episode explores overcoming uncertainty, embracing change, and learning to accept what can’t be controlled.About Crissy Fishbane:Crissy Fishbane is a writer, speaker, and co-founder of HER+ Health Collective, a community and resource hub supporting mothers through connection and collaboration. A former high school teacher with a background in psychology, she now leads inclusive communities and conversations about belonging, uncertainty, and personal growth. Crissy is also the co-host of the award-winning podcast Mama Needs a Moment. She lives in Raleigh, North Carolina with her family and believes meaningful change often begins by letting go of certainty.Main Topics Covered:Navigating burnout and discouragement in the U.S. education systemThe realities and emotional toll of being an educator: from overwhelming workloads to the pressures of IEPs and parent relationships.Taking bold action in life transitionsThe power of pilgrimage: travel without technology, deep self-reflection, and the lessons uncovered by disconnecting and stepping outside your comfort zone.Accepting uncertainty and redefining identity after career change: uncovering the difference between what can and can't be controlled.The ripple effects of transformationThe importance of sharing stories: how vulnerability and openness foster healing and help others feel less alone.Creating mom-centered support networks in a disconnected world: why Crissy founded her + Health Collective and the value of intergenerational villages for modern parenting.Quote from the Episode:“There is so much outside of my control and I'm trying to manipulate and figure it all out and have all the answers and make everything look just so, because that's what society says it should be...and it was this moment of realizing that is all this stuff that I have no right trying to manipulate or control, because I can't. It's not about me. It's just what is. So I need to accept that and I need to focus on what I can control, which is this moment right in front of me.”—Crissy FishbaneTimestamps:[00:00:18] Crissy introduces herself and talks about calling Raleigh, NC home[00:02:08] Decision point: Burnout in teaching and the emotional weight of the profession[00:04:14] Teaching psychology in high school and why teens love self-discovery[00:08:14] Detailing the stressors that drove Crissy to leave education[00:14:39] The transition—how the idea to walk the Camino de Santiago emerged[00:16:40] The pivotal moment: Crissy’s husband encourages her to quit and walk the full Camino[00:19:32] Was the pilgrimage religious or secular, and what spiritual meaning did it hold?[00:21:00] Walking the Camino: traveling with no technology, carrying everything, and the day-to-day experience[00:24:11] Transformation on the Camino and a lesson in giving up control[00:28:19] Facing adversity during travel: a separate story of losing everything in Costa Rica[00:31:35] A moment of transformation: Accepting “what is” on a solo stretch of the Camino[00:33:11] How the Camino transformed Crissy’s relationship with control, stress, and identity[00:36:15] Practical ways gratitude and acceptance shape her daily life now[00:38:01] Why Crissy shares her transformation story and the healing power of storytelling[00:40:16] Founding her + Health Collective: building a mom support network and tackling loneliness[00:43:21] Hybrid community-building and serving moms nationwide[00:44:54] Fun insights: generational identity, book recommendations, and travel snack habitsABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: https://herhealthcollective.com/ Mama Needs a Moment - https://herhealthcollective.com/podcast/GET CRISSY'S SPECIAL OFFER: HER+ Health Collective Email Newsletter — a free weekly email featuring expert insights on women’s health, parenting, and mental well-being, along with updates on community events and ways to get involved with HER+ Health Collective. Value: Free access to curated, expert-led content and insider community updates. Special Offer: Free newsletter subscription for podcast listeners. How to Redeem: Sign up anytime at https://herhealthcollective.com/connect/Note from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.Never Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofjFor Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stonebefore that I used Kit. Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors

If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIn this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Marta Spirk about navigating career change after becoming a mother to triplets. Based in Denver, Colorado, Marta shares her transformative journey from being a language professional in Brazil to launching her own business as a speaking coach for women entrepreneurs. Listeners will discover the unique obstacles and revelations that come with motherhood, especially for parents of multiples, and how Marta built a renewed career that blends her passion for language, music, and helping others share their story with impact.About Marta Spirk:Marta Spirk is a speaking coach, TEDx speaker, best-selling author, and professional singer who helps women entrepreneurs turn their story into a powerful, revenue-generating signature talk. She supports her clients in clarifying their message, delivering it with confidence, and leveraging speaking as a strategic income stream - on stages, podcasts, and within their businesses. Through her coaching programs, keynotes, podcast, and award-winning book The Empowered Woman: The Ultimate Roadmap to Business Success, Marta blends storytelling, thought leadership, and practical speaking strategy so women can be seen, heard, and paid for their voice.Main Topics Covered:The challenges and emotional realities of becoming a first-time mom to triplets, including grief over changed expectations and high-risk pregnancy concernsHow Marta’s background in languages, translation, and music informed her later work as a coach and speakerThe transition from traditional employment and contract work to seeking autonomy through entrepreneurshipInsights into network marketing and the appeal—and limitations—of direct sales businesses for mothers seeking flexible workGrieving old identities and forging a new sense of self post-motherhoodThe power and art of crafting and delivering a signature story or talk for women entrepreneursThe role of mentorship, visibility, and storytelling in building a business and personal brand as a modern woman and motherQuote from the Episode:"It was a lot of grieving, I would say in the first trimester. It was the toughest, I'm going to say... coming to terms with, this is my future." — Marta SpirkTimestamps:00:18 Introduction to Marta Spirk and the topic of raising triplets and career change00:44 Marta shares why she loves living in Denver and her Brazilian roots02:12 Triplets turn 10—Marta reflects on a decade of motherhood03:06 Explaining her fertility journey, endometriosis, and PCOS diagnosis05:23 Discovering she was expecting triplets, fear, and shifting expectations07:35 The concept of “matrescence” and grieving old dreams in motherhood09:09 Marta’s early passion for languages, translation, and tutoring in Brazil13:19 Career path shifts after moving to the U.S. with three infants14:40 Infusing musical passion into work and identity as a singer16:42 Deciding between working, staying home, or building a new path20:13 Entering network marketing (Beachbody) and discovering entrepreneurship24:42 Moving from interpreting others’ ideas to owning her message27:47 Building a business helping women distill and present their stories32:07 Marta’s podcast, book, and signature speaking strategy offer34:00 Marta’s reading habits and favorite book recommendation36:33 On adapting to American culture and favorite Girl Scout cookiesABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: https://www.martaspirk.com You can find episodes of her podcast The Empowered Woman here: https://www.martaspirk.com/blogGET MARTA'S SPECIAL OFFER: Story to Stage Evaluation - Free speaking strategy callWhether you are already speaking or aspiring to, let's spend 30 minutes together and talk about your vision and goals and how I could support you: https://www.martaspirk.com/evaluationNote from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.If you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofjFor Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stonebefore that I used Kit. Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors

If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIn this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Tiphany Kane about embracing passion and reinvention in adulthood. Joining the conversation from sunny Southern California, Tiphany shares her journey of escaping a restrictive upbringing, redefining her career path from teacher to media company co-owner, and why true opportunity lies in leaning into your authentic self. Listeners will hear how Tiphany navigated being told she was "too passionate," faced institutional barriers, and ultimately found empowerment and possibility through podcasting, entrepreneurship, and letting go of sunk costs.About Tiphany Kane:Tiphany Kane, M.Ed., is the CEO & co-founder of KaSa Media Productions, Executive Director of Sonic Bloom Podcast Awards, Public Speaker, Award-winning Podcast, Video, & Live Events Producer who brings her passion for the art of the spoken word to people who have a powerful story to tell. She is also a member of the AIVA (Academy of Interactive & Visual Arts) and serves as an AIVA juror. Tiphany is building Just 4 Feet Studio, a 5,500 sq ft state-of-the-art Dolby Atmos recording & post-production studio in Orange County, CA.Main Topics Covered:Overcoming the limitations of a high-control, patriarchal upbringing and embracing education and independenceNavigating career transitions: from passionate teacher, to frustrated administrator, to dynamic entrepreneurThe impact of being labeled "too passionate" in the workplace, and how that informed Tiphany’s decisions and self-worthAddressing inequity in education, especially for gifted and talented programs and underrepresented studentsThe power (and reality) of using podcasting and independent media to reinvent your life and build confidence—not just incomeDealing with sunk cost fallacy and fear in career changes—what to let go and how to trust your evolving journeyWomen’s opportunities and challenges in independent media in the age of AI, gatekeepers, and authenticityThe nuanced truth about following your passion, accepting “not a good fit,” and the value of creating your own pathQuote from the Episode:"This is something I really like about myself. This is something I’d like to lean into more. I am so sick and tired of feeling like I have to hide who I am to show up in a world where I’m showing up in the way they say I should show up. It’s exhausting. And I’m done with it." — Tiphany KaneTimestamps:00:00 - Amy welcomes Tiphany 01:13 - Tiphany’s upbringing, expectations as a woman, and experience with high-control religion03:04 - Discovering dinosaurs, geology, and leaving behind misinformation04:34 - Path to teaching: resisting gender expectations, working in sales during 9/11, the pivot06:46 - Loving teaching, working with gifted children, asynchronous development, and personal connections09:51 - Going back to school, financial logistics, pursuing a teaching internship and credentialing hurdles12:14 - Not getting the dream job, learning you can request a debrief, and hearing “too passionate” as feedback13:24 - Processing being “too much” and realizing it was time to make a change20:00 - Designing an exit plan for alignment; accepting when you and a system are not a good fit22:08 - Podcasting as a catalyst for reinvention: what starting a show actually gave Tiphany26:34 - Letting go of sunk cost fallacy, grieving lost paths, and building new ones32:13 - Missing the classroom, but embracing entrepreneurship and the risks involved33:31 - The necessity of independent, authentic media for women in an era of AI and misinformation37:25 - Tiphany’s current business, working with brands like Z Gallerie, and adapting to uncertainty41:32 - Book and podcast recommendations: "When Women Were Dragons" and Pod Save America44:09 - On cold plunges, health advice, and why universal solutions don’t exist49:06 - Empathy, advice-giving, and supporting people in difficult situations52:04ABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: https://kasamediapro.com/TIPHANY’S SHOW: Shut up and Listen to Her https://www.youtube.com/live/e5LeCJT_Ctw?si=j9Dz4G6KevOExw3v If you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofjFor Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stonebefore that I used Kit. Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors

If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIn this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Brenda Florida about choosing radical change as a tool for personal transformation. Based in Southern California, Brenda shares her experience of putting her life in storage, temporarily moving to Playa del Carmen, Mexico, and intentionally disrupting her routine in search of growth. Listeners will hear how Brenda used a six-month international relocation. This was not an escape, but as a catalyst to break deep-seated patterns, confront internalized beliefs around work, money, and identity, and ultimately emerge with a renewed sense of purpose.About Brenda Florida:Brenda is a certified life coach with over eight years of experience helping hundreds of clients break patterns that no longer serve them — like people-pleasing, guilt, overgiving, and overfunctioning. Her work focuses on pattern interruption at the identity level, helping people recognize the subconscious dynamics driving their decisions and consciously choose a new response. This includes ambitious women navigating major life and career shifts — retirement, reinvention, stepping away from leadership — and redefining who they are in their next chapter. Brenda’s approach is practical, direct, and grounded in real-time change — not theory, but lived experience.Main Topics Covered:How intentional relocation can catalyze deep personal transformationThe logistics and realities of being a digital nomad: minimalism, storage decisions, and AirbnbsDisrupting internalized patterns around work, money, and gender rolesNavigating loneliness and self-reflection during a “cocooning” season abroadOvercoming expectations: why outward adventure became a journey inwardThe challenges (and comedic realities) of living abroad without speaking the local languagePractical support tools for reinventing yourself later in lifeThe importance of reframing discomfort and uncertainty as growth opportunitiesQuote from the Episode:“It was very much a cocooning time for me...the whole six months ended up being so internally transformative. I was spending all my energy on myself... It totally changes the chatter—you’re not absorbing that noise from your regular environment. It leaves you to yourself in a different way.” — Brenda FloridaTimestamps:[00:00:00] Introduction to Brenda Florida and episode overview[00:01:05] Planning the Mexico move—timing, storage, logistics[00:03:28] Why Playa del Carmen? Geography, practicality, digital nomad research[00:05:16] The need to disrupt patterns: burnout, business plateau, and personal stasis[00:09:56] Family and friends’ reactions to taking a big risk[00:14:22] What she was trying to shake up—specific patterns and old beliefs[00:18:32] Approaches to “pattern interruption” before moving and why relocation was different[00:20:12] Living in Mexico with limited Spanish; daily challenges and language barriers[00:25:00] Adapting to new systems: grocery stores, finding familiar products, and reliance on tech[00:29:55] Socializing, expat communities, and why Brenda chose solitude[00:32:23] Dealing with environmental factors (like sargassum) and shifting expectations[00:35:13] The rooftop pool, redefining “beach” joy, and embracing what works[00:36:18] What she thought would happen vs. what actually transformed[00:37:36] The retreat analogy: why changing environment unlocks new insights[00:41:08] Mindful living: what daily “friction” reveals about subconscious beliefs[00:44:33] Unpacking deep conditioning around work, pay, and gender[00:47:11] Observing patterns, subconscious behaviors, and the reality of change[00:51:53] Would transformation have happened without the big move?[00:53:03] Third act reinvention and Brenda’s new offer for women[00:59:02] Favorite source of entertainment and closing fun questions[01:00:40] Cocktail talk: cultural differences and favorites[01:02:43] Wrap up and how listeners can connect with Brenda[01:03:16] Community reminders and final thoughtsABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: https://www.brendaflorida.comBRENDA’S SHOW: Why Do I Keep Doing That? https://feed.podbean.com/whydoikeepdoingthat/feed.xmlGET BRENDA'S SPECIAL OFFER:The Third Act Reset:A private guided audio and companion worksheet designed for ambitious women navigating identity shifts — retirement, career exits, reinvention, or stepping into a new chapter. 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If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIn this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Amy and Nancy Harrington about the journey of building a values-driven business and community as sisters. Based in Los Angeles, California, but originally from Boston, the Harringtons reveal the inside story of launching The Passionistas Project, their mission-driven platform that uplifts women, especially those from marginalized communities. The conversation explores sisterhood, trust, and practical strategies for sustainable business partnership, offering inspiration for entrepreneurs eager to foster authentic connections in today’s rapidly-changing world.About Amy and Nancy Harrington:Sisters and business partners Amy and Nancy Harrington are the Co-Founders of The Passionistas Project Sisterhood, a global community for passion-driven women — especially from marginalized backgrounds — to find support, purpose, and empowerment. After leaving high-powered careers in Hollywood, where Amy worked on major films like Harry Potter and The Matrix, and Nancy created Academy Award campaigns, they now use their platform to uplift others. Through their Power of Passionistas Women’s summit, podcast, “Awakening Your Power” book series, and online global community, they foster connection, growth, and equality — rooted in sisterhood values like loyalty, empathy, and joy.Main Topics Covered:Creating and scaling a women’s empowerment community—from podcasting to global sisterhoodTransitioning from high-powered entertainment industry roles to entrepreneurshipStructuring a business with a sibling: navigating trust, corporate governance, and decision-makingThe importance of amplifying stories from women in marginalized communities and those outside the celebrity spotlightThe impact of authentic, vulnerable connection—online and (increasingly) in-personStrategies for business partnership: conflict management, profit sharing, and protecting each other and the companyHow The Passionistas Project supports women in business, personal transformation, and social impactThe evolving meaning of community—why it matters and how to nurture it todayTimestamps:00:00 Show opens: Amy Stone introduces Amy & Nancy Harrington, The Passionistas, and the episode’s dual audio/video format01:06 Where the Harringtons call home: LA by way of Braintree, MA02:48 The sisters’ impressive entertainment industry careers—Warner Bros, Matlock, Miramax, and more03:47 Forming a business partnership in 2003: why and how06:10 What sparked The Passionistas Project: navigating a patriarchal industry, supporting women in the MeToo movement, and elevating unheard voices10:16 The case for spotlighting ordinary women rather than celebrities12:25 Barriers women face—funding, equality, and isolation—and The Passionistas Project’s solution15:26 Why build a business as sisters? Trust, shared vision, and their unique approach16:45 Handling disagreements, business structure, and the “royal we”26:45 What The Passionistas Project is, and who it serves: solopreneurs, changemakers, marginalized voices28:35 Empowerment in practice: from community to podcast network, workshops, and publishing36:40 How needs have shifted: online and in-person connection in a post-Covid world41:01 Where to find The Passionistas Project and a special free journal offer42:02 The sisters share memories and rapid-fire final questions46:08 Closing notes, how to join the community, and the philosophy behind Imperfect AdultingABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations. Music written and produced by Todd Thompson at Dharma Bomb Studios.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: https://www.thepassionistasproject.com/ The Passionistas Project Podcast — https://feeds.megaphone.fm/CCLUC7621196190If you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. 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If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIn this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Liz Rivas about rediscovering self-worth and resilience after the collapse of a long-term relationship—one that ended with a dramatic wedding weekend in the Dominican Republic. Based in vibrant Miami, Florida, [Speaker B] shares how moving through heartbreak spurred her year-long solo travel adventure to 12 countries and inspired her to create a new kind of supportive community for women. Listeners will learn about the real emotional aftermath of addiction in relationships, the liberating (and challenging) nature of solo travel, and how intentional sisterhood can be an antidote to loneliness and self-doubt.About Liz Rivas:Liz Rivas is the founder of RoamCircle, a global women-first community platform helping women find authentic friendships and meaningful connection wherever they roam. After rebuilding her life through solo travel across 12 countries, Liz transformed her personal journey into a purpose-driven business that now connects a growing network of over 50,000 women worldwide. Through RoamCircle, she creates safe, intentional spaces for travelers, expats, digital nomads, and women seeking deeper community in their own cities. Liz is passionate about empowering women to choose themselves, trust their instincts, and build lives rooted in connection and belonging.Main Topics Covered:Navigating the end of a relationship marked by addiction, and the emotional impact of an unraveled wedding (07:03).The difference between the fantasy of a wedding and the true reality and demands of marriage—and what it means to lose oneself in pursuit of a life milestone (08:01).Recognizing and breaking the cycle of codependency, caretaking, and anxiety as a partner to someone struggling with substance abuse (15:19).Using travel as a tool for healing, self-discovery, and building self-trust; why solo travel is a radical act of self-reliance (23:21).The challenges and growth that come from managing loneliness, making micro-decisions daily, and cultivating new routines as a digital nomad (23:34).The importance of platonic, supportive, and safe women’s communities during times of change, and how sisterhood can be more healing than romantic entanglements (26:02).How Liz identified a gap in community for solo female travelers and built Roam Circle, an app that connects women seeking authentic relationships and support globally (28:04).Tips for making authentic connections in a digital world and why representation, inclusivity, and intentional curation matter in building community (34:53).Quote from the Episode:"One thing about solo travel, that it is a radical act of self-reliance... you’re making millions of micro-decisions every day... and all these micro-decisions that you’re making make bigger decisions a lot easier. It makes it a lot easier for you to make choices and to trust yourself and not...ruminating on the what-ifs." — Speaker BTimestamps:00:00 Introduction; both host and guest based in Miami01:16 Why [Speaker B] loves living on the water in Miami02:04 Wedding disaster story; end of a five-year relationship03:31 Addiction, relapse, and unraveling at the altar06:28 Deciding to start fresh and move out13:02 Realization of getting lost in the fantasy, generational patterns15:19 Codependency, hyper-vigilance, and emotional burnout as a caretaker18:48 Travel as healing; transitioning to digital nomad life22:14 List of countries visited and blending work with travel23:21 Sitting with loneliness, embracing uncertainty, building confidence26:02 Sisterhood over dating apps; the unique power of female community28:30 Identifying a need and building Roam Circle34:53 Creating authentic, inclusive digital connections and lessons from Miami42:17 Roam Circle’s story, name origin, and rapid launch45:06 The app-building process: failures, scams, and finding the right developer47:07 Fun questions: magical creatures, style preferences, and travel advice49:10 Wrap-up and how to connect with the show and Roam CircleABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: Elizabeth Rivas https://roamcircle.app/GET SPECIAL OFFER: RoamCircle App – Women’s Global Friendship & Community PlatformDownload RoamCircle on the Apple App Store or Google Play Store and create a free account.Website: https://roamcircle.appNote from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.Join the conversation on social. Find the Art of Imperfect Adulting on Instagram @theartof_imperfect_adulting YouTube @imperfectadulting and TikTok @imperfectadultingNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comIf you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofjFor Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stonebefore that I used Kit. Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors

If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIn this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Mindy Uhrlaub about living with the shadow of ALS (Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis), also known as Lou Gehrig’s Disease. Based in Marin County, California, Mindy shares her family legacy of ALS, navigating life as a genetic carrier, and the complexities of caregiving for multiple family members while raising children. This deeply personal conversation explores not just illness and loss, but resilience, advocacy, and the evolution from creative professional to patient rights activist. Listeners will learn about genetic ALS, the realities of the Sandwich Generation, and how storytelling shapes healing and community.About Mindy Uhrlaub:Mindy Uhrlaub is a carrier of the fatal C9orf7 genetic mutation. She participates in twenty longitudinal studies of ALS and has testified before the FDA and the NIH about medical rights of genetic carriers. Mindy was nominated onto a committee at the National Academy of Science to write the 2024 report, Living with ALS. Her latest book, Last Nerve: A Memoir of Illness and the Endurance of Family, won the 2025 Nonfiction Book Award. For her ALS advocacy, Uhrlaub also received awards from the Les Turner ALS Foundation, ALS TDI, and the ALS Network.Main Topics Covered:The reality of growing up in a family with ALS: genetic risk, diagnosis, and evolving medical understanding.Mindy’s experience as both a caregiver for her husband (twice diagnosed with lymphoma) and her mother (diagnosed with ALS).What it means to be part of the Sandwich Generation—balancing care for children and aging parents, and why it’s different today than for previous generations.The transformation from creative writer and musician to ALS activist: how advocacy work and community organizing emerged from crisis.Coping strategies for simultaneous, overlapping life crises—parenting, spousal illness, parental illness, and grief.The need for better support systems and recognition for caregivers, especially mothers in midlife.The importance of telling authentic stories about ordinary adults facing extraordinary challenges—and why Mindy wrote her memoir, Last Nerve.Raising awareness about ALS: statistics, misconceptions, and the urgent need for research and community support.Quote from the Episode:"I just think that if you find out something horrible, then, you know, that there's something to do about it. But if you're just worried that something horrible might happen, then you're kind of just like Woody Allen, like, fluttering your hands and being like, oy vey, this might happen... So it's like, if you throw down the gauntlet and face the thing, the chances are you're gonna win, but if you ignore the thing, then you're gonna lose." — Mindy UhrlaubTimestamps:00:04 Amy welcomes Mindy and introduces the episode’s focus on living with ALS00:53 Mindy shares about living in Marin County and what she loves about her community01:28 The family legacy of ALS and first awareness of the disease02:58 Mindy’s mother’s ALS diagnosis and the challenge of multi-generational illness03:50 Undergoing genetic testing and learning her own ALS carrier status05:48 Mindy describes her life at the time of her mother’s diagnosis—parenting, caregiving, and stress07:47 The complexities of being in the Sandwich Generation14:27 Why being a caregiver today is different than for past generations17:51 On not feeling prepared for dual caregiving roles and the compounding nature of life crises22:18 Mindy’s journey from musician and creative writer to activist and ALS community organizer25:55 Mindy’s advocacy in Congo and how those experiences shaped her activism for ALS29:08 The impetus for writing Last Nerve and recognizing her own hero’s journey32:00 Building community for genetic ALS carriers and confronting the medical system33:40 Why Mindy believes her book is for anyone facing insurmountable midlife challenges—not just ALS families37:46 Mindy’s message about ALS, public awareness, and why it’s not a “rare” disease38:44 Final lightning round: favorite first album, concert merch, and “curling curious”41:40 Amy’s show outro and special offer details for listeners to get a signed copy of Mindy’s memoirABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: www.mindyuhrlaub.comIf you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. 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If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIn this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Michelle Dovey about confronting self-imposed limits and embracing creative freedom through a unique art project centered on drawing the nude male form. Based in Wales and originally from New Zealand, Michelle shares how a pivotal solo trip to Florence during a major life upheaval led her to uncover hidden shame, challenge societal expectations, and transform her approach to asking for what she truly wants. Listeners will glean insights on the links between art, self-permission, and courageously redefining personal boundaries.About Michelle Dovey:Michelle Dovey is an internationally exhibiting artist and bestselling author whose pioneering work lives at the intersection of art, embodiment, and radical liberation. With over two decades immersed in transformational practices—including dance, shamanism, and somatic creativity—Michelle is a seasoned guide in breaking taboos, dissolving shame, and reclaiming the body as a source of power, truth, and pleasure. Main Topics Covered:How major life changes—like divorce—can prompt new creative exploration and self-dialogue.The challenge and revelation of “self-editing” in art, especially around drawing the male nude.Unpacking the male gaze vs. female gaze, and what that means for artists and viewers.Using a bold 100-drawing project to disrupt internalized shame and social taboos.The empowering skill of asking directly for what you want (in art, life, or even just how you like your coffee).How public vulnerability and sharing reduce shame and fuel genuine personal growth.The ripple effect: learning to prioritize your own desires influences daily choices and relationships.Why confronting limits and old stories can convert distant dreams into real-life possibilities.Quote from the Episode:“It was less and less and less about making everyone around me happy, and it was more and more and more about, like, what would Michelle like, what would I like, what would I like to ask for?” — Michelle DoveyTimestamps:00:00 – Amy Stone introduces Michelle Dovey; global upbringing and sense of home01:23 – What makes Wales special (dark sky country and secret wildness)02:30 – Michelle Dovey’s journey into art: early roots, art school, and international study04:08 – The end of a 20-year marriage catalyzes an artistic and personal turning point04:58 – Returning to Florence: reclaiming lost dreams and revising old stories09:28 – Using drawing as meditation and the shock of “self-editing” out the male nude11:07 – Growing up with subtle and overt shame around art and the human body14:03 – Introduction to the male gaze, female gaze, and how art history frames the nude17:01 – Drawing Michelangelo’s David in public: audience reactions and social discomfort18:27 – Turning embarrassment and self-limitation into a 100 nude men drawing project20:19 – External and internal barriers to public, boundary-pushing creative work24:16 – Practicing the muscle of asking for what you want, even amidst outside fear27:00 – Learning to lead, set boundaries, and navigate discomfort as a woman and artist28:25 – How artistic risk translated into greater self-permission in daily life31:01 – Using social media to process and share shame: “The medicine for shame is sharing about it.”34:23 – Real-world impact: from creative asks to everyday requests, and why clarity matters36:31 – Closing reflections: shifting from distant dreams to actively creating your path40:13 – Michelle Dovey shares about her coaching work around wealth mindset and desire42:19 – Final fun questions; travel dreams and the ongoing practice of asking yourself what you truly want45:35 – Amy Stone closes with community invites and parting thoughtsABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: Michelle Dovey can be found at www.michelledovey.com She also has a podcast: Shameless Experiment Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@MICHELLE_DOVEYGET [GUEST NAME]'S SPECIAL OFFER: Special offer for podcast listeners:Free 1:1 Desire Audit with Michelle (Value: £500) Use code: IMPERFECTASK(Offer valid for at least 12 months; subject to availability and application approval)Note from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.If you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofjFor Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stonebefore that I used Kit. Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors

If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIn this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Jennifer Sontag about navigating radical life transitions, from divorce and empty nesting to international relocation and career transformation. Jennifer currently calls Sicily, Italy home. Listeners and viewers will learn about the reality of moving abroad, how personal crises can lead to unexpected opportunity, and why adaptability matters more than ever when adulting gets messy.Jennifer Sontag is the founder of ViaMonde, a relocation agency which helps Americans relocate to Spain and Italy. Jennifer has always paved her own path, at just 19-years-old, Jennifer opened her first maternity boutique, The Stork’s Nest, that at the age of 28 she would sell to Macy’s — she’s always known how to turn a leap of faith into a thriving enterprise.Main Topics Covered:Overcoming the triple challenge of divorce, empty nesting, and a career change—all at once.The psychological impact of upheaval and why compartmentalization works in crisis.Rebuilding life after loss: moving cities, downsizing possessions, and taking bold leaps abroad.The real story of landing in China: dealing with scams, illegal visas, and pivoting into a new professional identity.Why adult expectations and flexibility matter when navigating unfamiliar cultures.The role of expat communities and relationships in shaping Jennifer’s European adventure.Key lessons for Americans considering immigration or expat living, including visa realities.The importance of following your own timeline and embracing change as a pathway to growth.Quote from the Episode:"I have journals, and so I know it was hard because I've read the journals. I've got the receipts... so I know that I was feeling down at that point and that it was really hard, but I don't remember it." — Jennifer SontagTimestamps:01:14 Jennifer shares why she calls Sicily home and the joys of living there02:10 The triple upheaval: divorce, kids launching, career change03:08 How all major changes happened simultaneously05:03 Moving from Cleveland back to St. Louis, then onward to China06:44 Jennifer’s reflection: journaling, memory, and finding silver linings08:10 Deciding to move abroad for personal growth and adventure11:54 Downsizing, leaving with two suitcases, and planning a "bridge year"13:13 Arriving in China: discovering job scams and quickly pivoting15:27 Landing on her feet: transitioning to teaching business management16:57 Adapting expectations at midlife—why adulting abroad is different18:34 Finding expat community and a new teaching career in Shanghai22:01 Navigating COVID, health setbacks, and the evolving global landscape27:22 About ViaMond: helping Americans and others with expat journeys34:23 Common expat misconceptions—especially among Americans41:06 Jennifer describes her perfect day of relaxation by the sea45:30 Wrapping up: reflections, takeaways, and how listeners can connectABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: https://www.viamonde.eu/Join the conversation on social. Find the Art of Imperfect Adulting on Instagram @theartof_imperfect_adulting YouTube @imperfectadulting and TikTok @imperfectadultingNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comIf you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. 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In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Julie Cole about making the choice to leave a professional law career and embrace entrepreneurship, parenting, and advocacy. Broadcasting from Burlington, Ontario, Julie shares her journey from lawyer to co-founder of Mabel’s Labels, her experiences as a mother of six, and her approach to balancing career, family life, and raising a child with autism. Listeners will learn about the realities of career pivots, the challenges of the traditional workforce for women and parents, strategies for embracing imperfection, and actionable parenting insights.About Julie Cole:Julie Cole is a co-founder of Mabel’s Labels, the award-winning company that grew from a basement startup to a multi-million-dollar brand. A recovered lawyer and mom of six, she’s now a Senior Director, bestselling author, and recognized voice in entrepreneurship and parenting. An award-winning speaker and media contributor, Julie is known for her wit, wisdom, and passion for supporting small businesses and women entrepreneurs.Main Topics Covered:Choosing to leave a professional career in law for entrepreneurship: motivations, fears, and realities.Navigating motherhood, including raising six children and parenting a child with autism.How higher education and a legal background inform entrepreneurship and advocacy.The unique challenges women face in professional careers and the “mother tax” of stepping off a traditional job track.Building a successful business from the ground up—Mabel's Labels—and addressing a real-world problem for parents.Parenting philosophies: acceptance, flexible routines, and meeting children where they are.The evolution of support and intervention for children with neurodiversity over the past two decades.Honest advice about work-life integration, family travel with a big crew, and encouraging connection with older kids.Quote from the Episode:“But I think if you're going to have a child, you must know at, in, in some way that whatever child you get, you get. Like, you don't get to construct this. Like, you get what you get, and you're better off loving the child you have than missing or grieving the child you, you imagined, because there's so much joy in the ones you have.” — Julie Cole 20:50Timestamps:00:01 Introduction: Amy introduces Julie Cole, making career changes, and overview of the episode01:05 Julie shares her home in Burlington, Ontario, and thoughts on cold weather and local life02:22 Education and career background—law, legal theory, and the pivot away from practice03:42 Practicing law while managing a growing family, early signs of career misalignment06:06 The challenges of balancing family and professional work; gendered expectations07:32 Parenting during law school, overlapping major life milestones, and widening care gaps09:07 Launching Mabel’s Labels from necessity and timing with family changes12:57 Decision to have a large family—childhood expectations, “not having the ‘I’m done’ gene”15:45 Receiving an autism diagnosis, grieving expectations, and the advocacy journey19:02 Thoughts on acceptance in parenting, celebrating small wins, and meeting kids where they are23:37 Process of leaving law, finding fulfillment and purpose in new endeavors26:13 The realities and “mother tax” of leaving a professional track28:46 Starting Mabel’s Labels; early business strategy, e-commerce before social media33:29 Scaling up with family and changes in technology for parents35:38 Parenting routines, independence, and transitions as children grow37:13 Big family travel tips—adjusting expectations, off-season travel, mindset for tough days40:10 Pro tip for staying connected with older kids: meet them where they are42:51 Language in parenting teens, empowerment, and ongoing family communication43:08 Amy’s wrap-up, joining the Imperfect Adulting community, and final wordsABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIf you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. 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If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIn this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Hope Alcocer about the transformative journey of giving up control through the challenges of infertility, miscarriage, and profound grief. Hope, who lives in the New York City tri-state area, shares candidly about her experiences navigating blended family dynamics, repeated pregnancy loss, the illness and loss of a parent, and how these crises led her to a radical acceptance of life’s uncontrollable moments. Listeners can expect deep insight into coping with loss, the pressure on women in motherhood journeys, and real-life tools for embracing imperfection and change.About Hope Alcocer:Hope Alcocer is a certified mental health coach, motivational speaker, and author whose work centers around resilience, recovery, and reclaiming your voice. Her journey includes surviving domestic violence, navigating infertility, and healing from grief and trauma—all of which have become central to her coaching and speaking approach.Main Topics Covered:The realities and emotional toll of infertility and recurrent miscarriage, including the financial, relational, and psychological stress.Navigating stepmotherhood and blended family dynamics, and the early conversations around family planning when dating someone with children.How compounded grief—losing a child at birth and a parent within days—forces a transformation in outlook and priorities.The pitfalls of trying to control life’s outcomes, even with careful planning, and the journey to radical acceptance.The stigma and isolation women (and couples) often experience when dealing with fertility struggles and pregnancy loss.Practical examples of letting go—how Hope’s perspective on daily frustrations, like traffic or children getting sick, changed after her losses.The double-blind of supporting a gravely ill parent while longing for and then grieving a child, and the emotional “sandwich” of adulting in multigenerational crisis.How Hope now uses her story to support others as a mental health coach and speaker, and the importance of holding space for complex emotions.Quote from the Episode:“I realized that we can control how we react to what we can’t control… Whatever comes at us, we have a choice in how we’re going to react to the uncontrollable.” — Hope Alcocer 38:07Timestamps:00:01 Introduction, trigger warning, and welcoming Hope Alcocer01:28 Hope shares about life in the NY tri-state area and blended family03:00 Early ideas about family, motherhood, and step-parenting05:05 Candid discussion about blending families and having “ours babies”07:15 Hope’s childhood exposure to infertility and miscarriage11:02 Losing control: multiple miscarriages, genetic testing, and the limits of planning14:08 Compounding grief—miscarriage and mother’s breast cancer diagnosis17:00 Putting motherhood on hold to care for an ill parent; guilt and family priorities18:43 Pregnancy after loss, the high-risk, closely-monitored journey19:05 Twin pregnancy, losing a twin, and managing mixed emotions22:25 Progesterone shots, medical interventions, and the role of a supportive partner25:18 Separation, costs, and isolation—fertility journey challenges28:13 The pressure of “making it work” and longing for parental connection30:16 End of pregnancy, mother’s transition to hospice, and hope colliding with reality33:51 Sudden placental abruption, emergency C-section, and infant loss36:45 Grieving the loss of both child and mother within days37:46 Realization and surrender: “We don’t control anything in this life.”41:23 The surprising freedom in letting go and living beyond minor grievances44:08 Hope’s work as a mental health coach; resources and special offers46:50 Rapid-fire: self-care, travel dreams, and a favorite book recommendationABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: www.hopealcocer.comMIA'S FOUNDATION: Miajoyfoundation.org GET HOPE'S SPECIAL OFFER: Intro Mental Health Coaching Session- Free Limited to first 5 sign ups https://www.hopealcocer.com/coachingFemale Founders always get 20% off my marketing services: hourly or packageshttps://www.hopealcocer.com/services#serviceofferingsNote from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.Never Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comIf you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofjFor Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stonebefore that I used Kit. Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors

If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIn this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Stephanie Benedetto about the transformative journey of moving from the United States to Portugal. Stephanie shares how an unexpected insight sparked her international move. Through vulnerability and humor, she details the emotional decisions, logistical hurdles, and personal growth that accompanied her leap into expatriate life, offering inspiration and practical lessons for anyone contemplating a major life change or cross-continental relocation.About Stephanie Benedetto:Steph (DragonHeart) Benedetto is a creative catalyst, transformative coach, and storyteller devoted to awakening the creative fire in visionary entrepreneurs, artists and their communities.Through The Awakened Business and her new body of work, Steph DragonHeart, she guides creators to bring their soul’s work to life — without the hustle, hype, or pretending.Steph has over two decades of experience in conscious business, creative entrepreneurship, and coaching transformation. A born storyteller and lifelong lover of dragons, she blends deep presence, irreverent humor, and fierce compassion to reveal the brilliance already within you.Main Topics Covered:The power of personal insight in making major life decisions—including moving abroad for love rather than logistics.Deconstructing the myth of extensive pre-planning: how taking action sometimes precedes clarity.Practical challenges of expatriate relocation: visas, residency, travel, and navigating foreign bureaucracy.Navigating endings—with partners, leases, and homes—and the emotional complexities of starting anew.Building community in a new country, including the role of shared interests like pole dancing and remote work networks.Cultural shocks and self-awareness—what it means to be an American abroad and adapting to new norms.Finding your footing financially and professionally while adjusting to a new environment.Following the call of your passions to create joyful, meaningful community.Quote from the Episode:"I had seen enough at that point to know that if I want something different on the outside, the place to really look is in me and how I'm showing up." — Stephanie BenedettoTimestamps:00:23 Introduction to Stephanie Benedetto and context for her move to Portugal02:54 Stephanie shares her initial lack of intention or planning to move abroad04:01 The inner insight that catalyzed Stephanie’s life change05:07 The book “Sane: Getting Real with Reality” and its influence06:44 Shifting from external to internal locus of control07:38 Life upheaval: new insights, surrender, and giving up expectations08:14 Age, season of life, and the impact of not owning property10:12 Navigating relationship changes before moving12:42 Going to Portugal as a tourist and the reality of remote/self-employed work13:04 New relationship develops during travel in Portugal14:54 Decision to stay and the visa process begins17:51 Ending rental lease and financial/logistical challenges19:40 Visa application difficulties and emotional impact22:09 Navigating tourist visas, back-and-forth travel, and timing24:17 The remote worker visa and changing residency rules in Portugal26:14 Relationship and cultural challenges as the biggest hurdles29:00 Observing and adapting to cultural differences as an American in Portugal31:01 How pole dancing led to unexpected community and friendships33:10 Navigating food and vegan options in Portuguese cuisine35:37 Stephanie’s coaching business and professional focus37:52 Light-hearted fun questions: daily rituals, self-care, and podcast recommendationsABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: https://www.theawakenedbusiness.com/GET STEPHANIE'S SPECIAL OFFER: The Paid to Be You Workshop: Realign Your Business to Create a Life You LoveIn The Paid to Be You workshop, you’ll design a business that feels like it was made for you, one that funds the life you love and lets you do your work with joy.Value: $33 It's free here: https://www.theawakenedbusiness.com/paidNote from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.Never Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comIf you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofjFor Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stonebefore that I used Kit. Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors

If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIn this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Karen Rudolph about breaking the cycle of chronic stress, people-pleasing, and redefining boundaries during and after a major life upheaval. Karen, who lives in sunny Sarasota, Florida, shares her powerful journey through divorce, burnout, and learning self-compassion, offering transformational insights for "visionary" and transformational leaders.About Karen Rudolph:Karen Rudolf is an empowerment coach, speaker, an Int'l best selling author who supports people in making clearer decisions by learning to listen to themselves again. After years of “powering through,” her own body became her greatest teacher, leading her to a more honest, sustainable way of living. Today, she blends lived experience, self-awareness, and practical tools to help others navigate change without burning out. She believes clarity doesn’t come from fixing yourself—it comes from remembering who you are.Main Topics Covered:Recognizing the signs of chronic stress and the toll it takes on physical and mental health, including hair loss and deep fatigue.The impact of people-pleasing, over-functioning, and losing oneself in family and caregiving roles.How a "non-negotiable intervention" (life forcing you to stop) can trigger personal transformation.Developing self-compassion and learning how to say “no” as a complete sentence.Moving from victimhood to empowerment through self-inquiry, boundary-setting, and reframing identity.Shifting from resentment to freedom: building a new life post-divorce and helping others do the same.The importance of teaching personal responsibility and resilience to children and community.Building a holistic, mind-body approach for sustained personal growth—and sharing that wisdom through coaching.Quote from the Episode:"No is a complete sentence. And my children knew me as that old entity of being that victim and the people pleaser. And they would walk all over that. And it was a tough transition for us all. But I really had to start creating boundaries and saying, no, I'm not doing you any justice or doing you a service by doing this for you." — Karen RudolphTimestamps:00:06 Amy Stone welcomes listeners and introduces the theme of imperfect adulting01:44 [Karen Rudolph] shares what she loves about Sarasota, Florida02:02 Discussing the life-altering moment: non-negotiable intervention during divorce03:06 First symptoms of burnout—hair loss, chronic fatigue, and stress05:01 Life before: juggling nursing career, family, pets, carpooling, and self-sacrifice09:45 The slippery slope of never-ending responsibilities10:44 Facing the “great con” of parenting adolescents; coping strategies12:44 The turning point—learning to listen inward and make new choices13:10 The paralegal’s advice: taking charge of your future or others will14:40 Discovering self-inquiry and personal responsibility; quantum physics, religion, and compassion20:48 The transformation: boundaries, saying no, and living with authenticity22:00 Real-life examples of saying no: transitioning from “supermom” to self-advocate23:45 Navigating pushback and resentment when boundaries are enforced25:20 Why Karen chose to share her story and create resources for others28:45 Who benefits most from Karen’s message—visionary and transformational leaders31:24 Where to find Karen’s resources, her “Wired and Tired Reset,” and a free Clarity Compass guide33:47 Karen’s favorite meal, place to think, and recommended books36:07 Closing thoughts, how to connect further, and the journey of imperfect adultingABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: www.TranquilSOULutions.comGET KAREN’S SPECIAL OFFER:A free Clarity Compass Guide:A soul-guided framework to help you get unstuck and return to center—in just a few mindful moments. Inside, you’ll learn how to:https://karenrudolf.com/free-clarity-compass-pdf-967946480054For the Imperfect Adulting audience Karen will include a complimentary 30 Min mapping session to connect the Clarity Compass to a next step forward move. Value $297 if they use the Discovery call link with the word IMPERFECT!Note from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.If you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofjFor Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stonebefore that I used Kit. Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors

If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIn this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Zina Wilde about navigating radical career change, rediscovering purpose after success, and the healing power of travel and community. Zina is currently based in Los Angeles. Listeners will learn about Zina’s journey from TV actress (best known for her recurring role on "Billions") to wellness retreat founder, her immigration challenges, and the transformative magic she found in connecting to nature and somatic work.Zina Wilde is an actor, filmmaker and entrepreneur. As an actor she worked on the SHOWTIME series Billions for 7 seasons. Films like 80 for Brady with Jane Fonda, Lilly Tomlin and Sally Field, The Climb which received the audience award from Cannes and Chuck with Liev Schriver and Naomi Watts among others. As an entrepreneur she created a travel/ retreat company that started in Greece where she is from and has expanded in multiple locations like Italy, France, the US and Mexico in a very short amount of time. Her retreat business was recently featured on Vogue Greece and the Chicago Tribune. Zina's trips are all about personal growth while having fun and remembering that following your bliss is the most profound journey there is.Main Topics Covered:The reality of “dream jobs”: Why working as an actress on a hit TV show isn’t always the final destinationImmigration hurdles and the unique challenges of building a creative career as a non-citizenHow the COVID-19 pandemic and personal adversity inspired Zina’s transition from acting to founding international wellness retreatsThe importance of community, real-world connection, and “adult summer camp” in a digitally isolated eraThe role of somatic work, dance, and nature in healing depression and rekindling creativityChallenging expectations from family and friends when making unconventional life and career choicesHyper-independence: Its value in artistic careers—and how it can be both fuel and a growth edgePractical details: What to expect on Zina’s retreats, the themes, locations, and how to connect for a special offerQuote from the Episode:"I think that that was the biggest lesson for me to understand that there is no real safety anywhere, in any job, wherever they tell you that there is. Everything always changes... The point is to be present and do the best job that I can every day that I show up." — Zina WildeTimestamps:00:01 Show intro; Amy introduces the episode’s topic and guest01:47 Zina shares her multiple “homes”: New York, LA, Greece, and finding home within herself03:29 Zina’s dream: Choosing TV/film acting, theatre roots, and skill crossovers07:39 Reflections on landing the "Billions" role, immigration struggles, and hustling for a creative career15:00 The myth of job security in the entertainment industry—staying present amidst uncertainty19:27 How the pandemic and a “dark space” spurred Zina’s journey back to Greece and a new sense of purpose24:34 Founding a retreat company: Adult summer camp, community, and real shared experience31:00 Facing skepticism, fuel from being doubted, and lessons on hyper-independence33:34 Integrating somatic work, movement, and the healing force of nature34:47 Retreat logistics, themes, locations, and community experiences39:33 Fun wrap-up: Zina’s favorite food to avoid, most beautiful travel spot, and recommended books41:04 Amy wraps up the episode and offers ways to stay connectedABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: www.theeuzina.comNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comIf you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofjFor Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stonebefore that I used Kit. Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors

If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIn this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Carly Alyssa Thorne about navigating life with congenital rubella syndrome. Based in LA, California, Carly Alyssa Thorne shares her journey of balancing medical needs with pursuing a fulfilling career, relationships, and mindset work. This episode uncovers the challenges of living with visible and invisible disabilities, the evolution of self-acceptance, and the power of choosing authenticity and self-advocacy despite societal misunderstanding.About Carly Alyssa Thorne:Carly Alyssa Thorne is a Director, Producer, Actress, Author, and Speaker with over 30 years in the conscious transformation field. Blending Eastern and Western philosophies, she integrates wellness, spirituality, and storytelling to create media and experiences that inspire growth and healing. A former fitness and wellness center owner and certified Life Coach, Reiki Master, NLP and Hypnotherapy Practitioner, and Interfaith Ordained Minister, Carly brings a holistic lens to every production and collaboration. Her work bridges film, business, and consciousness—empowering others to embody their truth, elevate their message, and lead with purpose.Main Topics Covered:Living with congenital rubella syndrome: understanding a rare, lifelong chronic illness and its evolving impact on daily life, health, and relationships.Invisible vs. visible disabilities: how Carly Alyssa Thorne navigates when and how to reveal her challenges, the emotional journey of self-acceptance, and combating stigma.Coping with ongoing medical needs: the reality of 67+ surgeries, ongoing treatments, restricted activities, and prioritizing quality of life.Mindset, mental health, and resilience: the work of managing depression, post-traumatic stress, and the conscious decision to choose life and positivity.Career and education obstacles: why chronic illness disrupted Carly Alyssa Thorne's academic pursuits, and how she pivoted to certifications and entrepreneurship.Self-advocacy and boundaries: learning to say no, educating others, and managing relationships with those who may not understand chronic illness.Blending Eastern and Western healing: embracing both medication and holistic practices to build a sustainable, flexible support system.Supporting others: Carly Alyssa Thorne's work as a coach, using multisensory and individualized approaches to help people through trauma and life transitions.Quote from the Episode:"I finally just stopped caring what other people stared, what their looks were, what comments were, you know, bullying, all that stuff. And I’m just like, I’m just going to be me—if you either like it or you don’t. If you need to ask me a question instead of staring, feel free to ask me a question. I’d be more than happy to answer." — Carly Alyssa Thorne 10:55Timestamps:00:05 Introduction; where Carly Alyssa Thorne calls home and what she loves about LA00:50 Explaining congenital rubella syndrome and its effects01:27 How the syndrome uniquely affects each person; long-term medical complications03:29 Childhood experiences: isolation, allergies, and constant medical care05:21 Lung and respiratory challenges; living with additional illnesses06:07 Family dynamics and coming to terms with medical reality07:25 Impact on school, sports, friendships, and accommodations09:31 Navigating visible and invisible disabilities; decisions about self-presentation12:56 The mindset shift: from hiding to self-acceptance and advocacy18:40 The toll of chronic illness on mental health and resilience23:47 Coping strategies, mindset work, and building positivity26:38 Day-to-day impact: fatigue, self-care, and adapting professional life29:12 Educational and career roadblocks, inability to sustain traditional roles31:05 Losing freedom (driving), further adaptations across life32:58 Boundaries and relationships: support circles and letting go of judgment35:03 Cultural and family context; independent self-advocacy37:18 Carly Alyssa Thorne’s coaching work: blending modalities to support othersABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: Www.carlyathorne.comNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! 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If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIn this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Becky Mollenkamp about navigating life’s most profound upheavals. Becky is based in St. Louis, Missouri. She shares about losing her brother to addiction, walking away from a “picture-perfect” marriage, and pivoting from print journalism to entrepreneurship. Listeners will discover practical wisdom on grief, resilience, and breaking free from “good girl” conditioning to create a life with more authenticity and meaning.Becky Mollenkamp is a feminist business coach for service-based entrepreneurs who want to build human-first businesses that honor collective flourishing over profit-at-all-costs growth.Main Topics Covered:Navigating the triple upheaval of divorce, the loss of a sibling to addiction, and an unexpected career shift.The emotional complexities of ending a relationship—even one that looks “perfect” from the outside.Surviving and healing through grief after losing a loved one to heroin overdose, and the impact of sibling bereavement.The personal and systemic challenges of mental health, addiction, and the stigma surrounding both in America.How running and movement became a pathway for processing grief and reconnecting with self.Transitioning from journalism and marketing to coaching—empowering other women to break out of “good girl” conditioning.The ongoing journey from needing external gold stars and validation to living a values-driven, self-defined life.Insights on embracing imperfect adulting, intersectional feminism, and helping others rewrite their stories.Quote from the Episode: “I may have made the bed, but I can make a new bed. Like, I don't have to lie in this bed just because I made it. ... I get to make my own rules for my life.” — Becky MollenkampTimestamps: [00:00:05] Amy welcomes Becky; St. Louis roots and sharing love for the Cardinals. [00:01:18] Amy reflects on Becky’s concise podcast pitch and their prior connection. [00:02:24] Becky details the July 4th, 2010 turning point—leading up to and after. [00:03:01] Setting the scene: Becky’s life before upheaval—successful freelance writing, wealth, custom home. [00:05:26] Becky’s journalism journey, newspaper work in California, shift to magazine publishing. [00:07:56] Three life changes: Divorce, family death, career—discussion on agency and choice. [00:08:09] Honest reflection on ending her marriage, infidelity, and personal responsibility. [00:12:01] Brother’s death from heroin overdose—grief, family dynamics, and reevaluating life. [00:13:51] The challenge of grieving when “everything looks good on paper”—stigma, guilt, and validation. [00:15:19] Family history of addiction; choosing tough love and wrestling with guilt. [00:18:47] Systemic issues—mental health, addiction, and the gaps in support. [00:21:00] Stigma surrounding death and overdose; Becky’s commitment to speaking openly. [00:23:17] The isolation and judgment parents face when children struggle or die by addiction. [00:24:08] The overlooked grief of adult siblings and “disenfranchised grief.” [00:25:27] How Becky attempted to outrun grief—and how it always catches up. [00:26:05] Somatic healing: Running, movement, and processing emotions. [00:32:03] Career transition—rediscovering purpose, letting go of “good girl” conditioning. [00:41:09] Building a new life—remarriage, parenting, fulfilling work, and redefining happiness. [00:42:28] Becky's lifelong feminism and evolution toward intersectionality. [00:43:31] Becky's podcast “Messy Liberation,” her upcoming book, and how listeners can connect.ABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: https://beckymollenkamp.com/Listen to Becky’s Podcast: Messy Liberation https://feeds.transistor.fm/messyliberationIf you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! 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If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIn this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Courtney Boyer about deconstructing religious beliefs, unraveling "goodness," and the path from purity culture to embracing polyamory. Courtney lives in Germany. She shares her journey from an Evangelical Christian upbringing in the U.S. through redefining her sense of self, sexuality, and fulfillment in adulthood. This candid conversation explores the intersections of faith, identity, marriage, and the courage to choose honesty.About Courtney Boyer:Courtney Boyer, M.Ed., M.S., is a therapist-turned-relationship coach, writer, and speaker whose work centers on love, desire, and authenticity. She has been featured in The New York Post, Cosmopolitan, The Huffington Post, and BBC Radio Live. Drawing on her background in mental health and sex therapy, she brings a unique blend of professional expertise and lived experience to conversations around relationships and identity. When she isn’t writing or coaching, Courtney can be found chasing joy. This includes traveling, reading, or savoring delicious coffee and deep conversation. She is passionate about helping women break free from shame, reclaim their bodies and voices, and create relationships rooted in honesty and autonomy.Main Topics Covered:Growing up in a high-control Evangelical Christian environment and its impact on beliefs around gender, sex, and "being good."The meaning and process of "deconstructing" faith, especially when beliefs no longer align with lived values.Navigating marriage roles, motherhood, and self-sacrifice—plus the invisible labor women often carry.Overcoming shame, disconnection, and body criticism rooted in purity culture.The shift from therapist and wife “doing everything right” to embracing authentic self-expression and pleasure.Opening the conversation around non-monogamy, polyamory, and sexual fulfillment in adulthood.The complexity of honesty in intimate partnerships—and what it takes to rebuild a relationship on new terms.Parenting with openness about faith, ethics, and personal choice.Quote from the Episode: "I was so resolute in who I was at that point. I was so done with placating to other people." — Courtney BoyerTimestamps: [00:00:05] Introduction – Where Courtney calls home and what she loves about Germany[00:00:43] Exploring "goodness" and doing everything "right" in marriage and faith[00:01:16] Early adulthood: marriage, Evangelical Christian context, and career beginnings[00:03:00] High-control religion explained and how it shaped Courtney’s identity[00:04:07] Becoming a sex educator and therapist as a Christian woman[00:06:00] The "quiet erosion"—starting to question Evangelical beliefs (gay marriage, inclusion)[00:07:26] Deconstruction: pulling apart faith, family, and community[00:12:29] Motherhood, caretaking, and the emotional toll of self-sacrifice[00:16:12] Shame, disconnection, and curiosity about sex as a teen in religious spaces[00:19:49] The internalization of body criticism and purity culture[00:21:00] The pivotal moment: choosing honesty and confronting marriage dissatisfaction[00:22:33] Attempting non-monogamy to save the marriage; coming out as polyamorous[00:31:00] Defining polyamory versus non-monogamy for listeners[00:32:16] Couples therapy, growth, and life after honesty[00:33:03] How Courtney’s life is different today—joy, freedom, and authentic connection[00:35:19] Courtney’s professional work as a relationship and sexuality expert[00:36:07] Books authored by Courtney and resources for listeners[00:37:00] Fun reactions to being a sex and relationship therapist[00:37:35] Book recommendations and where Courtney turns when seeking new information[00:38:29] Closing gratitude and episode wrap-upABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: www.courtneyboyercoaching.comIf you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! 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If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIn this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Sarah Dawkins about moving from traditional nursing to a career in holistic healing. Dawkins is based in Spain. Sarah shares the powerful story of how questioning established medical norms led her to an identity transformation and inspired her to help others heal naturally. Listeners will learn about the inner conflict of leaving a medical system she once cherished and the personal healing journey that changed her perspective.Sarah Dawkins is a Holistic Health and Healing Coach, International Speaker, the Author of HEAL YOURSELF and the host of the popular health-focused podcast Heal Yourself with Sarah Dawkins. As a former Registered Nurse with over twenty years of medical experience, Sarah brings a unique, integrative perspective to her work. Sarah’s expertise spans from self-healing multiple chronic health issues to supporting clients in uncovering and addressing the root causes of their symptoms, empowering them to achieve vibrant, lasting health and transformative wellness.Main Topics Covered:How questioning professional norms in nursing led to a profound personal and professional transformation.The influence of geographic moves (UK to US to Spain) on worldview and healing philosophy.The emotional toll and identity crisis that arises when your values no longer align with your profession.Differentiating traditional Western medicine from holistic and natural healing approaches.The role of diet, lifestyle, and mindfulness in managing and healing chronic physical and mental health conditions.Strategies for helping others tune into their own "innate wisdom" and address root causes instead of only treating symptoms.Building a business around holistic health—transitioning from nurse, to entrepreneur, to holistic health coach.Combining, complementing, and sometimes rejecting aspects of Western medicine for more integrated self-care.Quote from the Episode: "I just wanted to help people, to have the knowledge to help themselves. …And for me, once I'd learned that, that truly is helping people to help themselves rather than helping them to stay in that medical model, in that western medicine." — Sarah DawkinsTimestamps:[00:00:05] Introduction & welcome—Sarah calls Spain home, discusses loving its tranquility[00:01:20] Why Sarah became a nurse and the UK nursing education process[00:04:02] Early nursing career and the first major challenge to professional beliefs[00:05:22] The pivotal coworker conversation about vaccines that sparked months of research[00:09:22] Expanding research beyond vaccines into pharmaceuticals, nutrition, and natural healing[00:13:44] Applying new knowledge to personal health: overcoming chronic illnesses through lifestyle changes[00:16:32] Living two lives: Integrating holistic habits at home and following protocols at work[00:18:00] Attempt to practice Reiki in nursing, and the professional limitations encountered[00:20:27] Specific patient interactions that deepened the conflict between values and job role[00:24:13] The inner struggle: Reported for holistic advice, facing ridicule, and mounting anxiety[00:27:17] The mental health crisis: Depression, suicidal thoughts, and the necessity of a "timeout"[00:30:49] Leaving nursing: Exploring entrepreneurship and using transferable skills[00:34:55] Earning new professional validation and certifications; becoming a coach, surrendering the nursing license[00:37:30] Reconciling Western and holistic medicine—when each is appropriate[00:40:20] Today’s work: Helping others get to the root cause of their symptoms[00:42:49] Free eBook offer for listeners and podcast details[00:43:38] Fun closer: favorite childhood TV show, book recommendation, and recent online purchaseABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: https://www.sarahdawkins.comGET SARAH'S SPECIAL OFFER: Understanding Your Core Beliefs https://mailchi.mp/7a6d66bbb5e1/core-beliefsNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! 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If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIn this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Christine Davies about the journey from aspiring physician to hospital chaplain, and how living with epilepsy reshaped her personal and professional life. Christine joins the show from Hunterdon County, New Jersey. The audience will enjoy insights on medical advocacy, faith, self-care, and how adversity can guide us to new callings.The Rev. Christine Vaughan Davies is an ordained Presbyterian Minister, ACPE Certified Educator, seminary professor and trained Spiritual Director. She runs the Spiritual Care Department at Robert Wood Johnson University Hospital. She lives with her family on a small farm in New Jersey and spends her time chasing chickens and chauffeuring her school-aged children to all their activities.Main Topics Covered:Facing medical gaslighting and learning self-advocacy through epilepsy diagnosis.Differentiating spirituality and organized religion, and healing after negative religious experiences.The emotional toll of pursuing difficult diagnoses and supporting loved ones through health uncertainty.How changing career paths—EMT, medicine, therapy, social work—clarified Christine’s desire to help others deeply and holistically.Lessons from life transitions, "dark night of the soul," and adapting to new normals after illness or loss.The role and misconceptions of chaplains in hospital settings, plus Christine’s approach to soulful self-care.How witnessing life’s toughest moments inspired her writing, teaching, and advanced care work.The importance of advance directives and having crucial conversations about health care decisions.Practical wisdom for balancing demanding caregiving/healing professions and personal mental health.Quote from the Episode: “One of the things that I would encourage your listeners...and it became true for me from the diagnosis, is learning to trust your own body. And I sometimes tell my patients this. You know your body better than anyone else, so if something feels off for you, you are the expert.” — Christine DaviesTimestamps: [00:00:05] Welcome & intros; Christine’s Jersey roots and hobby farm living[00:01:24] Becoming a hospital chaplain: Early dreams in medicine and EMT experience[00:04:04] The challenge & relief of epilepsy diagnosis; struggles with medical advocacy[00:06:10] Types of seizures and impact on daily life, plus career pivots[00:08:16] Persistence through the medical system; supporting loved ones with diagnoses[00:12:46] What spirituality means beyond religion; deconstructing harmful faith structures[00:16:07] Experiencing the “dark night of the soul” amidst health crisis[00:18:41] Exploring therapy, social work, and ultimately chaplaincy—making tough choices[00:21:29] Navigating career decisions & backup plans; learning through each transition[00:22:05] Misconceptions around hospital chaplains; teaching, internships, and finding her calling[00:25:34] Maintaining emotional balance in high stress roles; soulful self-care and nature on the farm[00:28:09] Lessons from witnessing grief and death, and why sharing stories matters[00:30:05] Advance care planning and having tough conversations with family[00:32:15] Christine’s private practice and working as a spiritual director[00:32:56] Rapid-fire questions: favorite pizza, rainy day relaxation, and parenting hacks[00:35:06] Closing gratitude and where to find Christine’s free spiritual practices offerABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: www.christinevdavies.comGET CHRISTINE'S SPECIAL OFFER: 5 simple spiritual practices you can do today - download https://www.christinevdavies.com/giftNote from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.Never Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! 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If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIn this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Peggy Sharr about the multi-layered journey of getting a burning mouth syndrome diagnosis, living with chronic pain, and the profound intersection of grief and physical health. Penny joins the podcast from Athens, Georgia. Listeners will gain insights into living with invisible illness, the maze of medical specialists, and the practical strategies Peggy discovered to reclaim agency and hope.Peggy Sharr is a licensed clinical psychotherapist and the author of The Burning Mouth Syndrome Survival Guide and her new memoir soon to come out, Surviving the Family Kingdom, about growing up in a home-grown religious cult, which she escaped from at twenty-one and rebuilt her life from the bottom up. With more than twenty years of trauma-focused experience, Peggy blends clinical insight with the raw honesty of someone who has lived through a painful, poorly understood condition herself. Her work helps people navigate fear, medical dismissal, chronic symptoms, and the emotional toll of invisible illness. Peggy lives in Athens, Georgia, where she continues her private practice, writes, paints, and advocates for those searching for clarity, validation, and hope.Main Topics Covered:The elusive path to diagnosing burning mouth syndrome (BMS) and why so many patients feel misunderstood or dismissed.Navigating overwhelming grief and how emotional trauma can influence physical symptoms.The unique challenges of finding the right medical specialists—such as oral pathologists—and the realities of the “disease of exclusion.”Why being your own detective, advocating for yourself, and tracking symptoms is crucial for rare and invisible illnesses.Practical pain management: low arginine, high lysine diets, medication, and trial-and-error treatments for BMS.The psychological isolation of invisible conditions—and how support groups and education help break the stigma.How Peggy’s clinical experience as a psychotherapist shaped her approach to self-advocacy and later helped her support clients in new, more authentic ways.Transforming adversity into activism: starting a nonprofit, writing a groundbreaking book for BMS sufferers, and the power of sharing your story.Quote from the Episode:"Sitting at a dinner, for example, or going out with friends, I’m sitting there, my mouth is on fire, and everybody’s just talking and enjoying themselves, and I’m just faking it... trying to go along and have a good time and not bring other people down. I’m not going to sit there and go, ‘By the way, everybody, my mouth is on fire.’" — Peggy SharrTimestamps:00:06 Welcome, intros, and where Peggy calls home (Athens, Georgia)00:58 Comparing Iowa and Georgia; reflections on Southern hospitality02:13 Experiencing burning mouth syndrome after loss and grief03:34 Using Dr. Google, self-diagnosis, and examining possible causes04:41 The persistent, life-altering nature of symptoms06:08 How foods and drinks affect BMS; coping and dietary adjustments07:46 Description of burning mouth pain and daily challenges09:49 Ulcers, lesions, and the frustrations of inconclusive medical visits11:58 Peggy’s background as a clinical psychotherapist and self-advocacy13:45 The long road searching for the right diagnosis and effective care17:06 The meaning of "idiopathic" and the range of secondary BMS causes18:10 Specialist referrals: MRI, food allergy testing, and the oral pathologist20:17 Hearing the words “burning mouth syndrome” for the first time22:32 Life impact: working, masking pain, TMJ, and invisible suffering27:46 The psychological isolation of chronic invisible pain34:50 The turning point: the “three years” prognosis and the search for answers36:30 Diving into research, joining support groups, and lessons from others41:00 The role of diet: arginine, lysine, and practical symptom relief49:33 Why Peggy wrote her book and began sharing her research publicly54:00 How experiencing chronic pain and loss changed Peggy as a therapist56:09 Resources for listeners: the BMS survival guide, newsletter, and memoir preview57:00 Fun wrap-up: hobbies, dancing, painting, and favorite music on vinylABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: www.peggysharr.comGET PEGGY'S SPECIAL OFFER: If you would like the first three chapters of Peggy’s upcoming memoir Surviving the Family Kingdom for free, you can go to the website www.peggysharr.com/kingdom and sign up on the popup form.Note from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.Never Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comIf you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofjFor Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stonebefore that I used Kit. Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors

If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIn this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Jane Pilger about the reality behind polished public perceptions, the experience of living with binge eating, and the path to recovery and self-compassion. Jane calls Albuquerque, New Mexico home.Jane Pilger knows what it’s like to look successful on the outside while struggling in silence on the inside. After years of battling binge eating while working in corporate accounting and commercial real estate, she made the leap to help others find the freedom she once thought was impossible. Today, she teaches people how to understand their behavior, trust themselves with food, and cultivate safety in their own bodies. Her work blends neuroscience, compassion, and lived experience—and her life outside coaching is filled with family, friends, and triathlon adventures.Main Topics Covered:Understanding binge eating: what it is, how it feels, and why shame keeps it hidden.The difference between occasional overeating and binge eating—particularly the heavy burden of shame.How “having it all together” on the outside can mask private struggles—and why perfectionism fuels secrecy.Ways that secrecy, emotional labor, and self-judgement perpetuate unhealthy patterns.The critical role of sharing your story and breaking the cycle of isolation.How changing careers and discovering nervous system regulation contributed to recovery.Practical steps to seek support, from therapy to coaching, and why “permission to be human” is vital.Resources, offers, and tools Jane uses to help others change their relationship with food.Quote from the Episode: “Shame thrives in the darkness...it wants to hide. And especially around food, any time any of us show up with a behavior that we wouldn't want other people to know, that's where the shame comes in.”—Jane PilgerTimestamps: [00:00:06] Welcome & intros; Jane’s home in Albuquerque, NM; media impressions vs. local perspective[00:00:53] Jane shares her love of the Sandia Mountains and the meaning behind their name[00:02:22] Introduction of today’s topics: public perception, keeping secrets, and binge eating patterns[00:03:00] Defining binge eating—beyond the clinical DSM criteria[00:04:01] The role of shame and the feeling of being broken[00:05:25] Brene Brown’s lessons on shame; shame as an isolating force[00:06:36] Why food is a uniquely complex coping tool[00:07:18] The challenge and benefits of self-diagnosis, social media influences, and finding community[00:07:52] Jane discusses her own podcast and the power of hearing others’ stories[00:09:16] Exploring behaviors as “lights on the dashboard”—the value of understanding root causes[00:11:12] How people’s motivations and destructive habits often have hidden, rational reasons[00:12:15] The reality of maintaining a successful image vs. inner struggle; perfection, vulnerability, and “permission to be human”[00:15:04] Using food to soothe—is it always bad? Reflecting with compassion[00:16:49] The pendulum swings: all-or-nothing thinking and cycles of binge eating[00:17:07] Jane’s history—25 years of binge eating, how secrecy started, and telling her husband[00:19:41] Isolation, secrecy, and the emotional labor of hiding disordered eating[00:21:51] Did anyone know? Jane’s reflections on secrecy versus reality[00:23:16] Tactics for concealment—replacing food and hiding evidence[00:25:08] The gradual journey from secrecy to seeking help; finding support, therapy, and its impact[00:26:29] Hunger cues, the complexity of physical vs. emotional hunger[00:28:16] Career change: leaving accounting and real estate for coaching and helping others[00:32:04] The nervous system’s role in relapse and recovery; making sense of protective patterns[00:34:11] Examples of protective behaviors and what drives “revenge bedtime procrastination”[00:35:23] How Jane helps others—podcast, YouTube, group and individual coaching[00:41:08] Jane’s Binge Breakthrough Miniseries: resource for complicated relationships with food[00:43:04] Podcast recommendations, kitchen gadgets, and closing remarksABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: https://www.janepilger.comGET JANE'S SPECIAL OFFER: The Binge Breakthrough Mini Series — a free 7-part video series that helps you understand why you binge or feel out of control around food. You’ll learn what’s really happening in your brain and body and how to find lasting peace with food—without diets, rules, or willpower.Link: https://www.janepilger.com/stop-binge-eating-mini-series?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=audio&utm_campaign=imperfect-adultingNote from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.Never Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comIf you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofjFor Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stonebefore that I used Kit. Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors

If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIn this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Jessica Rector about the transformative power of saying yes, burnout prevention, and reconnecting to personal joy as an adult. Jessica is based in Texas. Listeners will learn how small, intentional acts of saying yes to novelty can shift mental health, improve family connections, and expand what’s possible in everyday life.Jessica Rector is a personal development strategist, keynote speaker, and founder of the Say Yes Experience, a movement helping people step out of their comfort zones and into possibility.After experiencing burnout firsthand, Jessica rebuilt her life and work around a simple but powerful idea—start saying yes--to what lights you up, scares you or things you've always wanted to do. That mindset now fuels her work with individuals and organizations, focusing on growth, mental wellness, resilience, and burnout prevention through curiosity, courage, and connection.Main Topics Covered:Burnout, mental health, and the myth that entrepreneurship solves all overwhelm.The importance of novelty and small “say yes” moments to rekindle joy and presence.How kids—and those close to us—can be honest mirrors helping us see when we’re not fully present.The role of intentional fun and how scheduling joy impacts anticipation, well-being, and fulfillment.Practical examples: ice cream outings, scavenger walks, and the real challenges of trying new things (like renting bikes or scooters with your child).The expansion from saying yes to others, to saying yes for yourself—and the gradual process of reconnecting with your own wishes and desires.Building your “courage muscle” through 100 Days of Say Yes, tackling discomfort, and reframing fear.How cultivating curiosity, courage, and connection strengthens both relationships and self-discovery.Quote from the Episode:“Our brain is so hardwired to say no, and we don't even know why we say no most of the time. So I just encourage those listening that those moments don't wait. There's opportunities every single day to say yes. Just start saying yes and see what happens. Just try it.” — Jessica RectorTimestamps:00:06 Welcome to The Art of Imperfect Adulting; Jessica calls Texas home01:17 The origin of the “Say Yes” journey—sparked by her 9-year-old son03:40 Burnout as an entrepreneur; loving the work but losing balance05:42 Why working for yourself doesn’t guarantee ease or “boundaries”; myth-busting burnout07:05 Honest parenting reflections; son as a mirror and catalyst13:12 First “say yes” moments: ice cream, laughter, novelty, and brain science16:13 Trying new things—bike rentals, European travels, and learning to pause21:34 The gift of imperfect, messy experiences; why novelty (even when hard) creates memories26:13 What changed over time—adventures, travel, and small moments at home29:59 Saying yes to yourself (not only others); reconnecting with your wishes32:49 Jessica’s process re-learning what she loves, bucket lists, and solo self-care36:10 Evolution to keynote speaking, programs, and “100 Days of Say Yes” for courage41:23 How to connect with Jessica; bucket list download and resource for listeners43:05 Final playful questions—bowling, karaoke, and joyful purchasesABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: https://SayYesExperience.comGET JESSICA'S SPECIAL OFFER: FREE Bucket List Template to live out your bucket year now! https://go.sayyesexperience.com/listNote from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.Never Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comIf you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofjFor Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stonebefore that I used Kit. Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors

If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIn this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Lisa Manzo about unraveling childhood trauma, the path to sobriety, and the courage it takes to claim one's voice in adulthood. Lisa calls Las Vegas home. This episode delivers actionable insights for anyone navigating recovery, boundary-setting, and the journey of self-love after years of people-pleasing and perfectionism.Lisa Manzo is an emotional trauma coach who helps others process and heal from deeply embedded childhood wounds. Drawing on her own story of recovery and resilience, Lisa guides clients toward peace and joy through mindset shifts, self-reflection, and energetic healing modalities. She is host of The Phoenix Mind podcast and offers programs for those looking to step into their own transformative journey.Main Topics Covered:The connection between sobriety and healing childhood trauma.Growing up emotionally parentified and feeling unseen by parents.How early experiences with perfectionism, people-pleasing, and compliance shape adult relationships and behavior.The impact of family dynamics, divorce, and generational messaging (“be seen and not heard”) on self-worth.Using personal development, NLP, and energetic healing as tools for recovery and rewiring.The emotional residue of childhood stories—why memories like picture day or first communion can shape lifelong beliefs.Navigating support through therapy, 12-step programs, and finding community after isolation.Lisa’s journey from deep depression to peace, offering hope that joy is possible after transformation.Quote from the Episode: "My voice didn't matter. What I had to say doesn't mean anything. And it still shows up in the fact that I have to really assert myself and people still aren't listening. Then I'll walk away and something bad will happen because they didn't listen to me." — Lisa ManzoTimestamps: [00:00:06] Welcome & intros; Lisa shares her NYC roots and new home in Las Vegas[00:01:33] The choice to get sober—and why ending drinking wasn’t enough[00:02:28] The 12-step process: resentment, personal responsibility, and origins of trauma[00:03:02] White-knuckling sobriety alone vs. seeking help and surrendering[00:04:47] Family structure growing up: extended family, alcoholism, divorce, and its impact[00:06:46] The “Pink Dress” story: picture day, parental control, lost joy, and lifelong emotional residue[00:09:07] Reflecting as an adult on parentification, people-pleasing, and worth tied to compliance[00:12:22] First communion and the struggle to belong; family choices eclipsing childhood desires[00:17:56] Impact: Lisa’s voice and feelings not mattering—effects lasting into adulthood[00:19:12] Early substance use, from childhood wine in soda to buzz-seeking at clubs[00:20:57] When drinking becomes problematic: post-divorce stress management and unhealthy cycles[00:22:19] The lack of coping tools, isolation, and why therapy and help are vital[00:24:28] Beginning origin work: personal development, NLP, energetic healing, and the doors transformation opens[00:27:31] What might have happened without sobriety—Lisa’s honest fear she wouldn’t be alive[00:28:02] Finding peace and joy after years of unhappiness; helping others through emotional trauma[00:28:51] Lisa’s podcast, The Phoenix Mind, and free program resources[00:29:47] How Lisa uses free time: journaling, self-reflection, and making peace with triggers[00:30:52] Dream vacation: summer city-hopping in Europe[00:31:25] Junk drawers: Lisa’s philosophy on keeping organized “just in case” items[00:32:28] Episode wrap-up; gratitude and closing exchangeABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: www.ThePhoenixMind.comLISA’S PODCAST: The Phoenix Mind Podcast https://open.spotify.com/show/1ATZIU7C73tO84LbELsvpu?si=aa79e9584b5f4734GET LISA'S SPECIAL OFFER: https://thephoenixmind.com/free-certificationNote from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.Never Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comIf you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofjFor Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stonebefore that I used Kit. Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors

If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIn this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Andrea Daley about the profound journey from the depths of victimhood to empowered ownership in the wake of divorce and major life transitions. Andrea Daley is based in Greenville, South Carolina. This conversation is a compassionate guide for anyone navigating big changes, delivering practical insights on identity, healing, and reclaiming purpose beyond life’s upheavals.Andrea Daley is a Certified Coach, Life Transformation Specialist, Speaker, and Author with a Master’s in Psychology. With over 30 years of experience as a homeschooling mom of nine, she brings both professional expertise and lived wisdom to her work helping women navigate life’s biggest transitions; divorce, empty nesting, relocation, or reinvention.After her own world was turned upside down, Andrea discovered the power of coaching and used it to rebuild her life with clarity, confidence, and courage. That transformation inspired her to create The Empowered YOU Method; a framework built on Rediscovery, Realignment, and Renewal, designed to help women move from uncertainty to empowerment.Featured at national conferences, women’s events, and retreats, Andrea is known for her warmth, humor, and depth. Through her relatable storytelling and proven tools, she inspires audiences to embrace change, rediscover their strength, and confidently create lives they love.Main Topics Covered:Realizing no one is coming to save you: Breaking free from the victimhood identity after divorce.Navigating major life transitions—separation, lost identity, and becoming an “empty nester.”The limits of therapy alone and Andrea’s pivot to long-term self-help and coaching certification.Practical tools for “washing yourself” in personal growth and why slow, intentional change works.The role of self-awareness in interrupting destructive thought patterns and reframing the narrative.How to distinguish your “normal” from unhealthy patterns and redefine your sense of worthiness.Using adversity as fuel: How Andrea turned her healing process into a mission to serve others.Insights for women struggling to process overwhelming changes and permission to ask for support.Quote from the Episode:“You just do what you do when you think it’s your normal. That’s why women who are physically abused will end up back in that same relationship—because they know how to navigate that. They don’t know how to navigate being loved. The abuse is their normal.”— Andrea DaleyABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: https://andreadaley.comGET ANDREA'S SPECIAL OFFER: Your Free Guide to Navigating Major Life TransitionsThis gentle, practical guide will help you find steadiness in the “in-between” of any major life change; divorce, empty nest, relocation, career shifts, or those quiet now what? moments.https://andreadaley.com/wp-content/uploads/Starting-Over-After-Divorce-or-Empty-Nest.pdf Note from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.Never Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comIf you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofjFor Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stonebefore that I used Kit. Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors

If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIn this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Lucy Bedewi about transforming rejection into an engine for personal and professional growth. Lucy is based in Austin, Texas. Listeners and viewers will learn how Lucy reframed setbacks, used resilience and self-reflection to launch her “unicorn” business approach, and why embracing imperfection can lead to powerful transformations.Lucy Bedewi is the brand messaging strategist and copywriter behind My Write Hand Woman. She’s known for her ability to connect the dots quickly and craft unique messaging angles that’ll turn normal businesses into unicorn brands. She has scaled her business to multi-6-figures by the age of 22, working with top coaches, irreverent brands, highly-differentiated businesses, and personality-packed e-commerce companies. Her story and work has been featured in Nasdaq, Thrive Global, and Create and Cultivate. An electric speaker and the host of the podcast Unicorn Messaging, Lucy inspires women to get clear on the articulation behind their business, move into their bigness, and create messaging that’s easy to buy from.Main Topics Covered:Using rejection as a catalyst for change and self-discovery in your careerNavigating job loss and leveraging a supportive safety net to take risksThe emotional reality of being fired—why it’s more common (and survivable) than people thinkBuilding a business from scratch: how spite and determination fueled Lucy’s rapid entrepreneurial successRecognizing when it’s time to walk away from unfair partnerships and startup “equity” situationsRebranding after failure: returning to authenticity, infusing personality, and launching the “unicorn” brand strategyThe role of support systems, including executive coaching, in processing setbacksShifting from internalizing rejection to viewing it as useful information—and letting go of outside validationQuote from the Episode: “You can be like the juiciest peach, but if someone only eats apples, they're never gonna see that you’re a delicious peach... It's never about you. It's also never about them.” — Lucy BedewiTimestamps: [00:00:05] Warm welcome and where Lucy calls home (Austin, Texas) [00:00:44] What Lucy loves about Austin’s climate, food, and lifestyle [00:01:11] Introducing the theme: seeing rejection as the start of great things [00:01:43] Fired from a remote job after 90 days—emotional impact and realities [00:02:36] Graduating during the pandemic and landing her first “adult” job [00:03:32] Early career expectations, red flags, and entrepreneurial leanings [00:06:13] Taking risks because of a safety net and “Jerry Maguire” moments [00:07:12] Launching a business out of spite and necessity; setting ambitious goals [00:09:32] Why Lucy pushed for three months to hit $5k/month—and how she did it [00:12:20] The second rejection: being cut from a startup and confronting undervaluation [00:15:07] The aftermath—scaling back, self-reflection, and emotional impact [00:16:14] Rebranding gone wrong, returning to personality and authenticity [00:17:55] Launching Unicorn Messaging: helping others become the “unicorn” in their industry [00:18:30] The process of self-discovery and breaking free from the need for approval [00:20:01] The mix of personality, coaching, and support required to bounce back [00:22:54] How to NOT internalize rejection—and practical reframes for moving forward [00:25:01] Comparing “bounce-back” stories; the deeper lessons of later rejection [00:26:18] Embracing letting go, trusting what’s meant for you, and future possibilities [00:27:26] About Lucy’s current business, special quiz offer, and where to follow her [00:28:46] Fun quickfire questions (birthdays, grocery shopping hacks, favorite books) [00:31:05] Closing gratitude and final thoughtsABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: https://www.mywritehandwoman.com and Lucy has a podcast Unicorn Messaging: https://open.spotify.com/show/22xqeOiQGWzrTNaD2NmI03GET LUCY'S SPECIAL OFFER:FREE quiz: What's Your Brand Messaging Superpower?https://quiz.tryinteract.com/#/67979624c16f720015e296ad?method=iframeNote from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.Never Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comIf you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofjFor Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stonebefore that I used Kit. Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors

If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIn this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Jacob Engelsman about redefining family, identity, and lactation support for queer and trans parents. Listeners will gain insights into Jacob’s transformative career change, the importance of specialized resources for marginalized families, and the power of creating community in unconventional spaces. Jacob is Based in Atlanta, GA.Jacob Engelsman is an International Board Certified Lactation Consultant, infant care specialist, speaker, and writer. He is the author of Lactation for the Rest of Us: A Guide for Queer and Trans Parents and Helpers, as well as several articles and presentations on lactation support and supporting gender and sexual diversity in healthcare.Main Topics Covered:Making bold career transitions: Jacob’s move from food service to the world of birth work, doula training, and lactation consulting.What it means to be a postpartum doula versus a lactation consultant, and how real-world experience reshapes career paths.The lack of resources for queer, trans, and non-traditional families in lactation, and how Jacob is filling that gap with his book “Lactation for the Rest of Us.”Inducing lactation for non-gestational parents: myths, biology, and practical advice for queer and adoptive families.Navigating gender, belonging, and being “the only guy in the room” in feminine-dominated birth spaces.The importance of representation and referral in inclusive healthcare—ensuring all parents find the right support.Why giving space and resources for marginalized stories matters, and how listeners can be better allies by simply “being nice” and connecting people to what they need.The rise and role of telehealth in postpartum care, especially for underrepresented families.Quote from the Episode:“I think one of the things that's important to stress in conversations like these is that I'm not telling anybody to change their language about anything or to change the way they do anything. I'm asking people to be nice. If you don't feel comfortable working with trans communities, that's fine. Just know somebody that you can refer them to. That's literally the bare minimum.” — Jacob EngelsmanABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: https://jacobengelsmanibclc.com/GET JACOB'S BOOK: Lactation for the Rest of Us https://bookshop.org/a/87491/9781805011910Note from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.Never Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comIf you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofjFor Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stonebefore that I used Kit. Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors

If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIn this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Alisha Kapani about the reality of living with and healing from depression. Alisha is based in Calgary, Alberta in Canada. Alisha shares her deeply personal journey through severe depression, suicidal ideation, and her eventual discovery of unconditional joy after years of searching and trying both conventional and unconventional healing modalities. Listeners will hear about the importance of seeking the root cause of mental illness, the power of vulnerability, and how a shift in consciousness led Alisha to her own radically transformed life and a new career.Alisha Kapani is a former Chemical Engineer turned Mindbody Mentor after struggling with severe depression for 5 years. She assists clients all over the world to tap into their body’s wisdom to resolve illness and access their highest possibilities for vitality and abundance.Main Topics Covered:Recognizing the signs and symptoms of depression beyond ordinary sadness.Navigating medical and therapeutic treatment options, including antidepressants and cognitive behavioral therapy.The limitations and challenges of traditional approaches to mental health.Exploring alternative healing modalities: Reiki, hypnosis, acupuncture, and more.Why addressing the emotional root cause is crucial for genuine healing—and how distraction and suppression can impede progress.Transformative impact of finding a mentor and embracing mind-body connection and quantum physics to facilitate rapid recovery.The stigma, vulnerability, and misunderstandings around mental illness—with advice for managing shame, family expectations, and relationships.Alisha’s current work as a mind body mentor, including approaches to raising your vibration and healing at the root.Quote from the Episode: “I think because so many people are managing their illness, whether it's a mental or physical illness, because they think that that is all that's available...I guess I just want people to know that once you get to the root cause, you can heal very quickly. I did heal pretty much right away once I figured out what the root cause was. On the other side of it is more joy than you've ever experienced in your life before.”— Alisha KapaniTimestamps: [00:00:06] Welcome and Alisha’s home base in Calgary, Alberta[00:00:41] Reflecting on learnings from the past year—epiphany around relationships and depression[00:01:49] Trigger warning: depression, self-harm, suicidal ideation[00:02:27] Timeline of Alisha’s depression and age at onset[00:03:49] Working with medical professionals: diagnosis and medication journey[00:06:31] Describing symptoms of depression—fatigue, lack of motivation, impact on relationships[00:08:51] Recognizing depression: misattributing root causes, effect of life transitions[00:10:14] Impact on work performance and relationships; perfectionism and stigma[00:12:55] Relationship dynamics: depression and anxiety in partnerships[00:15:33] Why share your story? Breaking stigma, possibilities for healing, hope for others[00:19:28] Was there hope? The possibility of healing and experiencing greater joy[00:21:05] Sources of support—role of family, friends, and especially stepmom[00:23:44] Treatments tried: medical, therapeutic, and unconventional modalities[00:26:06] Distraction as a coping strategy—work and busy schedules[00:28:26] Surrender and openness: discovering a mentor and holistic healing[00:30:59] How Alisha discovered her mentor and the science behind self-healing[00:33:50] The challenge of understanding others’ experiences with mental health[00:35:16] From engineer to intuitive—embracing spiritual healing[00:36:24] Realizing transformation: unconditional peace and joy[00:39:58] Alisha’s work as a mind body mentor; special offer for listeners[00:41:44] Book recommendation—Love and Respect[00:42:34] Favorite movie snack[00:42:58] Episode wrap-up and gratitudeABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: https://www.alishakapani.com/GET ALISHA'S SPECIAL OFFER: 3 Ways to Raise Your Vibration Fast with Alisha’s Raise Your Vibration Bundle. Value: $100 Redeem at this link: https://alisha-kapani.mykajabi.com/3-ways-to-raise-your-vibration-fastNote from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.Never Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comIf you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofjFor Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stonebefore that I used Kit. Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors

If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIn this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Blythe Alpern about choosing self-fulfillment over the pressures of dating and conventional adulthood. Blythe calls Atlanta, Georgia home and listeners will enjoy candid reflections on how Blythe’s decision to stop “finding her person” led to personal growth, renewed focus on her passions, and a powerful reframing of self-worth.Blythe Alpern is a copywriter and podcaster. As the founder of Wordwoman Creative, she helps beauty and lifestyle brands create website, email, and blog post content that makes their audience stop, stay, engage, and buy. As the host of The GenX Experience, which was recently recognized by AARP, she gives latch key kids a place to reminisce and share the joys of navigating midlife as an 80s kid. When she's not podcasting or copywriting, she's taking her dog, Buster, for long walks and working on maintaining her status as the coolest aunt to her nieces and nephew.Main Topics Covered:The emotional toll and fatigue of dating apps: Blythe’s firsthand experiences with ghosting, bad dates, and lackluster connections.The impact of grief and family loss on personal priorities and capacity for relationships.Societal pressure to couple up and the myth of completion through partnership—especially as a Gen X woman.Navigating acceptance: Making peace with not having children and embracing the “cool aunt” role.Strategies for thriving solo—how Blythe channels energy into creative work, friendships, and solo adventures.Anxiety, introversion, and the challenge of doing things alone, from solo travel to coffee shop visits.The value of supportive friendships and reframing singlehood as a choice, not a deficit.Blythe’s work as a copywriter and her podcast “Gen X Experience” as creative outlets and platforms for fellow Gen Xers.Quote from the Episode: "I just got tired. I'm like, why am I putting effort when I'm not getting the effort back? And I deserve better. Every woman deserves better than a man with a picture of a fish." — Blythe AlpernTimestamps: [00:00:05] Amy Stone welcomes Blythe for a role-reversal interview; Blythe calls Atlanta, Georgia home. [00:00:45] Blythe’s creative life, copywriting, and beauty industry work. [00:01:11] Introduction to the pivotal “relationship choice” of 2023. [00:01:46] Blythe recounts dating during perimenopause and the realization triggered by love bombing. [00:02:28] Key turning points—being unsupported during family loss and making a conscious shift away from dating apps. [00:04:11] Memories of app fatigue and “terrible, lazy, lackluster men”; Atlanta’s unique dating frustrations. [00:05:11] Ghosting, rudeness, and security concerns on dating apps. [00:06:29] Expanding beyond the apps—fatigue from singles events and choosing personal growth over dating urgency. [00:08:02] Processing the decision with friends, and recognizing shared pain points among single women. [00:09:28] Feedback and camaraderie from Blythe’s support network. [00:11:13] The freedom and fulfillment of focusing on solo living and creative projects. [00:12:27] Blythe’s personal acceptance around motherhood, reframing her nurturing instincts in new roles. [00:15:23] Generational scripts around adulthood, and how acceptance and visibility among peers eased Blythe’s journey. [00:18:36] Overcoming anxiety and introversion for solo outings and travel; advice for others working through similar hurdles. [00:19:52] Blythe’s copywriting business “Word Woman Creative” and her podcast “Gen X Experience.” [00:21:56] Gen X nostalgia, community, and Blythe’s favorite comedy influencers on social media. [00:26:13] Rapid-fire questions on favorite color, clothing stores, and book recommendations—featuring “The Correspondent.” [00:27:59] Reflection on the lost art of letter writing and maintaining connections as an adult. [00:28:15] Closing gratitude and farewells from Amy Stone and Blythe Alpern.ABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: The GenX Experience Podcast: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-gen-x-experience/id1734296691Wordwoman Creative: https://www.wordwomancreative.com/GET BLYTHE'S SPECIAL OFFER: Book a done-for-you website content creation service, and receive a free strategy session to help you determine the best way to roll out your website launch(Valued at $450.). Use code: ADULTINGNote from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.If you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofjFor Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stonebefore that I used Kit. Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors

If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIn this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Amy Benjamin about the overlooked realities and challenges of perimenopause and menopause. Amy Benjamin is based in a suburb of Des Moines, Iowa. The audience will learn about common symptoms that are frequently misunderstood, the lack of societal conversation, how Amy turned her struggles into advocacy, and how a renewed focus on humor and science is empowering women to advocate for better care.Amy Benjamin Moore, M.Ed., turned 31 years in education into a menopause revolution. As a GGS-Certified Menopause Coaching Specialist, she built the Menopause Mastery Toolkit app and the Menopause Symptom Tracker app so women could stop suffering in silence and start advocating powerfully for themselves. In her debut book, Hot Flashes & Cold Truths (2026) she tackles menopause with education, humor, and strategies because menopause shouldn’t be whispered about; it should be owned.Main Topics Covered:Recognizing and navigating the symptoms of perimenopause and menopause hidden among everyday stressors and aging.The struggle for medical validation—why so many doctors miss menopause and rely on minimal training.The impact of menopause on work, relationships, and mental health, including overlooked symptoms like brain fog, irritability, and suicidal ideation.Intergenerational silence: why women rarely hear about menopause from their families or communities.The transformation from unaddressed discomfort to becoming an informed and empowered advocate for other women.Social media’s role in connecting women for information and support, plus caution on product-driven “menopause influencers.”Essential tips for self-advocacy in medical settings—how to prepare for doctor visits and what questions to ask.Resources and support: Amy’s survival guide, coaching, and upcoming humorous book on menopause.Timestamps: [00:00:05] Welcome & intro; Amy Benjamin’s Midwest home and outlook on daily joy[00:00:39] Sources of beauty and daily nature rituals—adapting to Iowa winters[00:02:07] Introduction to topic: Amy's “basket of physical and emotional symptoms” and medical journey[00:03:39] Realization of menopause symptoms: joint pain, brain fog, memory issues, and stress in early 40s[00:08:09] Lack of family/societal discussion about menopause—generational silence and missed opportunities[00:13:30] The medical runaround: symptoms dismissed as aging, lack of hormone and menopause conversation[00:14:03] Discovery of frozen shoulder—an overlooked menopause symptom and physician disconnect[00:17:13] Doctors saying “You’re fine”—Amy’s frustration and the systemic lack of menopause education[00:19:17] Minimal training for doctors on menopause; expert commentary[00:22:23] Unexpected weight gain, irritability, impact on relationships and divorce[00:24:28] Suicidal ideation flashes—mental health symptoms leading to help[00:26:01] Extreme bleeding, ablation, still no mention of menopause by doctors[00:28:41] Working in a female-majority environment—absence of conversation and recent shifts[00:30:43] Amy’s motivation to support other women, break the silence, and advocate for her daughters[00:33:01] Certification as a menopause coach—training and UK influence[00:35:03] “Rooms talking about it”—social media, influencers, and connecting online[00:36:18] Caution on menopause influencer marketing vs. genuine medical info[00:38:01] Navigating the challenge of finding supportive medical practitioners—telehealth as a new option[00:40:12] Self-advocacy in medical care; specific strategies, persistence, and moving on when not heard[00:42:12] Resources for listeners: survival guide, symptom tracker, doctor visit checklist[00:44:01] Amy’s upcoming book, use of humor in menopause advocacyABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: https://amybenjaminmoore.com/GET AMY BENJAMIN'S SPECIAL OFFER: Menopause Survival Guide Free on the website.Note from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.If you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofjFor Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stonebefore that I used Kit. Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Lori Balue about the journey of sustainable weight loss after 50, holistic functional health, and how embracing adventure can transform life in midlife and beyond. Lori calls Los Angeles home. The audience will learn about the impact of food sensitivities, inflammation, and the difference between dieting and truly changing your life.Lori Balue is a Functional Diagnostic Nutrition Practitioner and former obesity survivor who lost 100 pounds naturally in her 50s and has kept it off through low-carb nutrition, metabolic repair, and a movement-forward lifestyle. Now in her 60s, she hikes rim-to-rim across the Grand Canyon, runs half-marathons, and teaches women over 50 how to reverse metabolic dysfunction and reclaim their energy without medications or extreme dieting.Main Topics Covered:Why midlife and post-50 weight loss often requires a fundamentally different approach, especially for womenThe lifelong “diet merry-go-round”: Lori’s story of cravings, diet culture, and not just losing, but keeping off significant weightHow food sensitivities, inflammation, and functional health labs became breakthrough tools in Lori’s transformationReversing asthma, depression, and metabolic blocks by personalizing food choices—not just following trendsMoving beyond “willpower” and working with biology: protein, gut health, and understanding how diet drugs compare to real foodFinding real joy and motivation by embracing movement—hiking, half marathons, and making nature a regular part of lifeThe difference between short-term dieting and creating an adventurous, joyful lifestyle that sustains lifelong healthLori’s work as a Functional Diagnostic Nutrition Practitioner and how she supports women in breaking through metabolic blocksQuote from the Episode:"I look in my mirror, see, you know, I've still got, like, a flabby abdomen, and I'm 63, and I was 225 pounds, but I look and I feel slender. I feel slender and confident in my body, and I think that's great... I just started planning another half marathon and I'm going back to the Grand Canyon next September because this is what I love. And it keeps me activated and excited and joyful and happy. And I look forward to it." — Lori Balue 32:43Timestamps:00:08 Amy welcomes Lori and introduces the conversation about adulting, art, and daily beauty00:39 Lori shares her home in the Los Angeles high desert and love of her victory garden03:02 Shifting to the main topic: weight loss after age 5004:24 Lori’s backstory—struggles with childhood/adolescent weight, first diet at age 11–1206:07 A lifetime of diet programs, food cravings, and learning what did (and didn’t) work10:18 The turning point: functional nutrition, discovering keto, and what changed for brain health and joy15:51 Functional lab testing for food sensitivities—and finally reversing long-term asthma and inflammation20:19 Personalized transformation: experimenting, testing, and finally cracking the code22:40 Why profound, lasting change only happened when joy and health—not thinness—became the goals27:05 Commentary on weight loss meds, protein, and food “noise” today29:04 Discovering her adventurous self through movement, hiking, and the Grand Canyon37:45 Lori’s practice: Functional Diagnostic Nutrition, breaking blocks, and helping women reclaim health43:13 Fun closing: flowers, decorating, and the health tech/gadgets Lori now loves48:29 Gratitude and farewellABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST:https://loribalue.com/GET LORI'S SPECIAL OFFER: A downloadable recipe guide. Normally $27. Download here: https://contact.loribalue.com/recipebookNote from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support. If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comIf you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofjFor Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stonebefore that I used Kit. Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Darlene Lekowski about the lifelong impact of sibling sexual trauma and the journey of letting go of secrets that shaped her adult life. Darlene lives in the Charlotte, NC suburbs with her husband, Tom, their dog Pepper, and is the proud mother of three adult children. Listeners will learn how the process of opening up allowed Darlene to move from perfectionism and hypervigilance to forgiveness, healing, and connection.About Darlene Lekowski:Darlene Lekowski is a speaker, author, and advocate who writes and speaks about what happens when high-functioning adults realize that control and perfection aren’t peace—they’re survival strategies. After decades of striving to “hold it all together,” Darlene was forced to confront the emotional cost of living this way and learn, imperfectly, how to let go.Her debut memoir, Shattering Silence: A Story of Survival, Justice & the Power of Telling the Truth (April 2026), chronicles her journey of reclaiming her voice, redefining success, and choosing freedom over fear.Main Topics Covered:The effects of sibling sexual abuse and trauma on childhood and adult relationshipsUnderstanding and coping with PTSD masked by perfectionism, control, and successThe power dynamics and family pressure that keep childhood trauma secret for decadesHow releasing control and secrets changed Darlene’s relationships with her children and spouseNavigating hypervigilance, competitiveness, and the illusion of “good adulting” as survival strategiesThe role of therapy, supportive friendships, and alternative healing methods like EFT tapping in trauma recoveryThe courage to confront abusers, share your story publicly, and reclaim agency—even through the stress and grief of litigationDarlene’s mission to help others break the silence around sibling sexual abuse and start honest conversations with their own childrenQuote from the Episode:"The problem, when you've got a giant secret, the box leaks... I had PTSD all my life, but I actually wasn't diagnosed with it until I was 58 years old. I thought my behaviors were normal." — Darlene LekowskiTimestamps:00:05 Opening & intros; Darlene’s Charlotte, NC home and warmup questions00:34 Proximity to mountains and ocean; Charlotte lifestyle and history fleeing snowy states01:24 Amy’s perspective from the tropics; setting the scene for a conversation on control and secrets02:10 Darlene’s midlife confrontation with trauma; timeline and context of her secret02:47 How her mother’s death and family dynamics led to her secret surfacing03:35 Civil trial details; trauma in court, family structure, and relationships04:08 Childhood abuse between siblings, control issues, and survival mechanisms07:11 Perfectionism, hypervigilance, and adult life before telling the secret09:02 Sports, popularity, and strategies to avoid being alone at home10:19 Parenting as an overprotective mom; shifting relationships after the truth was revealed12:10 Direct fears, coping, and the psychological weight of secrets14:34 How shame and trauma “leak” into all relationships—friends, colleagues, and self-image17:23 Examples of outsize reactions; healing journey and day-to-day changes after releasing the secret19:13 Close friendships, difficulty forming intimacy, and pivotal moments in recovery20:19 Confrontation, PTSD episode with her daughter, and major turning point22:03 Suppressing vs. confronting trauma after her mother’s death; blowup with sibling and lawsuit24:33 Long-term therapy, diagnosis of PTSD, and alternative healing (EFT tapping)27:59 Losing relationships with abusive siblings, family impact, and trial testimony30:29 Thoughts on secrets and privacy; why families keep trauma hidden33:39 The importance of open conversations with children and the prevalence of sibling sexual trauma35:11 Making the trauma public; support from children and transforming fear into connection36:40 Emotional healing after the trial; shedding anger and shame38:29 The ongoing journey of healing and finding purpose in helping others40:41 Publishing her book, Shattering: A Story of Survival, Justice and the Power of Telling the Truth41:24 Darlene’s hope for the book and her outreach mission42:23 Rapid-fire closing questions: morning routine, favorite book (The Women), travel habits44:22 Episode wrap-up and thanksABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: darlene-lekowski.com Instagram: @darlenelekowskiGET DARLENE'S SPECIAL OFFER: Darlene’s first book will be available in April 2026.Note from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.Join the conversation on social. Find the Art of Imperfect Adulting on Instagram @theartof_imperfect_adulting YouTube @imperfectadulting and TikTok @imperfectadultingIf you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestIf you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofjFor Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stonebefore that I used Kit. Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Toni Will, a lifelong resident of Kalamazoo, Michigan about breaking free from alcohol as a coping tool and redefining what sober success looks like.About Toni Will:Toni Will is a leadership coach, speaker, and the General Manager of the Kalamazoo Wings, making her one of the few women leading in men’s professional hockey. She is the host of the Women In… podcast, a TEDx speaker, and the creator of the empowHER conference, dedicated to uplifting women and redefining success in male-dominated spaces. Toni is known for her unapologetic authenticity and her advocacy for alcohol-free living, blending high-performance leadership with personal clarity and conscious living. Her first book will be published in August 2026, further amplifying her mission to help others own their story, challenge the norm, and lead with intention.Main Topics Covered:Choosing sobriety during high-stress times: How COVID-19 lockdowns became an unexpected opportunity for self-work and lasting change.Professional sports & alcohol: Navigating stereotypes, “belly up with the boys” culture, and breaking barriers as the first female GM for the Kalamazoo Wings.The shortcomings of traditional recovery models: Why AA didn’t fit, and how modern, female-inclusive approaches (like This Naked Mind and Sober Sis) empowered Toni’s success.Sober curiosity versus “rock bottom”: Challenging black-and-white thinking and embracing a more inclusive, less stigmatizing language around substance use.Reclaiming time and energy: The practical and emotional benefits of giving up alcohol, from launching new businesses to deeper self-awareness and integrity.Community, belonging, and coping: Rethinking social drinking, friendship, and the unique challenges of rebuilding connections in recovery, as a female leader.Using transformation to help others: How Toni’s coaching, podcast, and upcoming book extend her story to support those reevaluating their relationship with substance.Representation matters: The power of seeing women openly lead in both sports and sobriety spaces.Quote from the Episode: “Whoever said that you had to drink to be a great leader? ...It’s just all these beliefs that are programmed into us and not in a culty way, but just culturally.” — Toni WillTimestamps:00:01 Introduction to Toni Will and the topic of choosing new coping skills02:07 Toni shares where she calls home and her approach to incorporating beauty into daily life04:02 The timeline of Toni’s sobriety journey and previous attempts to quit drinking05:51 Life before sobriety: career stress, family dynamics, and making the decision during COVID lockdowns08:56 Alcohol as a coping tool, early experiences with drinking, and societal influences12:53 Going public with her decision to quit drinking and gaining support from her husband and community13:38 The realities of leading a men’s professional hockey team as a woman, and the cultural context of sports and drinking15:38 Physical and emotional consequences of drinking, and challenging the concept of “rock bottom”18:23 Support systems, stigma, and balancing leadership with living alcohol-free20:33 The process of finding alternative recovery resources like "This Naked Mind" and Sober Sis24:00 Representation, leadership models, and the value of learning from empowering women28:21 The role of core values in lasting change and the influence on personal and professional life31:10 Coping skills, processing grief, and the complexity of friendship and belonging after transformation33:13 Toni’s entrepreneurial journey: launching a coaching business, podcast, conference, and writing a book35:21 Fun wrap-up: sober drink choices, mentors, and in-flight entertainment preferences38:45 Final thoughts, ways to connect, and community resources for listenersABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: https://www.toniwill.com/ You can find her podcast Women In … https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/women-in/id1745524618Note from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comIf you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofjFor Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stonebefore that I used Kit. Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors

Amy Stone, host of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, marks a huge milestone—200 episodes—by reflecting on the choices, pivots, and lessons learned behind the scenes of the show. In this episode, Amy gets real about navigating life transitions, staying true to her values, and building a more inclusive space for women and creators.About Amy Stone: Amy Stone is a media entrepreneur, storyteller, and founder of The Art of Imperfect Adulting - a growing media platform featuring long-form interviews that explore the messy, non-linear reality of building a life.Topics covered:• Celebrating 200 episodes and Amy’s personal growth journey as a creator• Transparency around what works—and what doesn’t• Behind the scenes: experimenting with tech upgrades, building a creative team, and her ongoing search for a creator-first community• Special shout-out to listeners who’ve been part of the journey since the startABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIf you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofjFor Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stonebefore that I used Kit. Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Belinda Coker about reinventing life through adventure and self-discovery, focusing on solo multi-day hiking as a transformative tool. Belinda splits her time between Australia, New Zealand, and Scotland. In this conversation she shares a change she made starting in her mid-50s that resulted in challenges, unexpected joys, and a profound sense of self-worth. About Belinda Coker:Belinda Coker is an Australian hiker and educator who shows women how practical adventure can restore confidence and clarity in midlife. After years of building businesses and raising three children on her own, she began hiking to find space and perspective, a journey that took her from the deserts of Australia to a solo crossing of Greenland inside the Arctic Circle. Belinda is also the founder of Soul Treader and The House Sitting Collective, where she teaches a structured, professional approach to trusted, responsible travel.Main Topics Covered:How to return to adventurous pursuits during midlife, even after decades away from the trail.Practical steps for women to build confidence, safety, and skills for solo travel and multi-day hiking.The emotional and physical transformation that comes from embracing new challenges after 50.Why Belinda swapped business travel for wilderness hikes—and how she found healing in nature.Navigating setbacks, unpredictable weather, and safety emergencies on remote trails.The role of community and how to surround yourself with the right support when starting something new.Early retirement and minimalist travel: making adventure possible on a budget through house sitting and frugal living.The mindset shift from “just a housewife” to self-affirmed adventurer and educator.Quote from the Episode:“I just felt that I really was someone to myself...I just really felt like I’d done something for myself, and that really was just so, so important. I can’t stress how good that made me feel.”—Belinda CokerTimestamps: [00:00:06] Amy welcomes Belinda and discusses where she calls home and her ties to New Zealand, Australia, and Scotland[00:01:42] Initial impressions of Scotland and the allure of wilderness versus developed environments[00:03:05] Belinda’s three stages of solo travel: from youthful adventures to international business trips and a post-pandemic return to hiking[00:06:05] The moment of self-realization at 55 and how the pandemic fueled her return to the outdoors[00:09:05] Starting over with day hikes, joining a local meetup group, and rediscovering health and confidence[00:12:27] First foray into overnight hiking, overcoming obstacles, and the liberating experience of her seven-day solo hike[00:17:00] How friends and family reacted to her decision and the importance of choosing supportive confidants[00:20:03] Lessons learned on the first multi-day hike: food, safety, preparation, and the realities of trail life[00:28:25] Pursuing skills to level up: Wilderness first aid, writing educational resources, and the dangers of unprepared hiking[00:29:43] Most recent hiking setback in the Canary Islands: managing gear failure, dangerous weather, and emergency decision-making[00:39:20] Upcoming hiking projects, the practicality of early retirement, and the value of simple/frugal living[00:42:49] Life as a full-time traveler, house sitter, and educator—plus a special offer for the podcast audience[00:45:29] Belinda’s quick takes on weather, travel routines, and what animals she really fears in Australia[00:48:09] Final thanks and closing remarks from AmyABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: https://soultreader.com/GET BELINDA’'S SPECIAL OFFER:The House Sitting Collective, - House Sitting Courses20% off all courses (Retail Value $79 & $197)https://housesittingcollective.com/ CODE: ADULTINGNote from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIf you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofjFor Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stonebefore that I used Kit. Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Terri Pease about the emotional realities, challenges, and unexpected joys of loving someone with Parkinson’s disease. Joining the conversation from Yarmouth, Maine, Terri opens up about her late-in-life marriage, building a life with her husband while navigating the relentless progression of Parkinson’s, and how caregiving transformed her understanding of love, loss, and support. Listeners will hear how Terri found unexpected strength, candid reflections on relationships changed by illness, and practical wisdom on sustaining dignity.Terri Pease PhD worked in academics, social services and health care all her professional life. When Terri married her husband who had Parkinson's Disease, she brought her wealth of knowledge and experience to bear on caring for him. That professional experience has informed her approach to caregiving, and to encouraging Parkinson's caregivers to make the idea of self-care real, practical and possible. As the author of Love, Dignity, and Parkinson’s: from Care Partner to Caregiver she has become the online voice for the more than 60,000 new Parkinson’s spousal caregivers who each year start on this long and challenging path.Main Topics Covered:Understanding the unpredictable journey of Parkinson’s disease and its impact on both the diagnosed and loved ones.Navigating the isolation and emotional overwhelm often experienced by Parkinson’s caregivers, especially partners and spouses.The importance of community, connection, and finding “enough similarity” in shared experiences, even amidst unique circumstances.Maintaining dignity for both the person with Parkinson’s and the caregiver—and why this is central to long-term caregiving relationships.The complex emotions of loss, frustration, and grief as a partner’s capabilities and personality change over time.Coping with changes in intimacy, partnership, and reciprocal support within a marriage affected by neurodegenerative illness.Why communities and support systems often fall short—and creative ways caregivers can find connection and help.Lessons learned on acceptance, letting go, and being present through the end of life.Quote from the Episode: “When I was able to say to myself, he has nothing for you, that meant I could stop looking for him to be the husband that I had married…and when that happened, I was able to think differently about what is happening here. What are we here?” — Terri PeaseTimestamps: [00:00:07] Welcome & intros; Terri’s home in Yarmouth, Maine; opera as shared art and connection[00:01:27] Introducing the day’s topic: Loving someone with Parkinson’s disease[00:02:48] Terri shares how she met her husband and the early awareness of his Parkinson’s diagnosis[00:03:24] What Terri knew (and didn’t know) about Parkinson’s at the start[00:04:11] Explaining Parkinson’s disease for those unfamiliar—its unpredictable, individualized course[00:05:20] How Parkinson’s impacts emotions, personality, and behavior, not just mobility[00:06:18] The gap between common perceptions and caregivers’ lived experiences[00:08:02] The role of loneliness and why peer caregiver support is so powerful[00:10:29] Comparing caregiving to early parenthood—the similarities and crucial differences[00:11:53] Examining societal expectations, visibility, and (lack of) communal support for adult caregiving[00:13:24] Cultural contrasts: communal care in other countries vs. isolation in US aging[00:15:11] Dreams of retirement, sailing, and how Parkinson’s stole shared plans[00:18:08] Scaffolding, adapting activities, and supporting dignity as abilities decline[00:19:54] The subtle onset of symptoms and the slow, unpredictable losses[00:22:00] What surprised Terri most—changes in judgment, writing, and emotional availability[00:24:00] Navigating deeply personal topics (e.g., incontinence, loss of privacy) and sustaining dignity[00:26:12] The emotional toll—grappling with loneliness, resentment, and the transformation of partnership[00:30:16] Lack of support from community, religious groups, and adjusting expectations for help[00:35:20] Nine years together: the timeline of joy and progressive challenges[00:36:15] Finding slivers of joy, humor, and connection, even late in illness[00:38:30] Advice for others: preparing for death, honest conversations, and staying present[00:40:27] A powerful moment of acceptance and comfort at the end of life[00:41:48] Terri’s work today: writing, her book (“Love, Dignity, and Parkinson’s”), and helping other caregivers[00:43:53] Where to find Terri, offer for listeners, and final lighthearted questions about life and joyABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: https://terripease.comGET TERRI PEASE'S SPECIAL OFFER: Love, Dignity and Parkinson's: from Care Partner to Caregiver available here: https://bookshop.org/a/87491/9798986700106If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIf you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofjFor Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stonebefore that I used Kit. Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Pallavi Pande about building a supportive community as a South Asian immigrant mom and entrepreneur in Portland, Oregon. The discussion shines a light on the realities of starting over in a new place, the importance of vulnerability, and how taking the first small step toward connection can lead to lasting impact.Pallavi Pande is a BIPOC mompreneur and the founder of DTOCS, a brand offering classy, compostable single-use tableware for events. Through her firm, DTOCS Consulting, she helps other brands grow on Amazon. She also leads a 2,000+ member South Asian moms group in Oregon. A Tory Burch Foundation Fellow and an honoree on Inc.’s list of fastest-growing companies, Pallavi serves on the board of Naturally Seattle. When she’s not building businesses or mentoring founders, you’ll likely find her dancing Zumba or sipping wine—always championing People, Planet, and Parties.Main Topics Covered:Overcoming the isolation of relocating and reinventing yourself in a new city as an immigrant.Postpartum depression and the power of vulnerability in reaching out for help.Building community for South Asian women through "Portland Brown Mommies" to address culture-specific needs.The evolution of an online community into deep, multigenerational in-person friendships and support.Using feedback and responsiveness to keep community events relevant, safe, and engaging.Transitioning from social connection to business mentorship: supporting South Asian women entrepreneurs.Mindset, habit change, and resilience in overcoming rejection—personally and professionally.How community supported Pallavi’s entrepreneurial journey with DTOCS compostable tableware.Quote from the Episode:"So I went with the vision I had, which was, there's nobody for me. How can I change that narrative? How can I be there for somebody else who's like me, who's trying to move, who has million of questions..." — Pallavi PandeTimestamps: [00:00:06] Welcome & quick intros; Pallavi shares her Portland home [00:00:38] Navigating life in rainy Portland and fitting in daily movement [00:01:18] Pallavi’s three focuses: moving, overcoming rejection, building community [00:01:43] Pallavi’s migration: marrying young, moving from India to Ohio, then Oregon [00:04:12] Facing postpartum depression, loneliness, and the search for cultural connection [00:05:08] The spark of finding community online and creating “Portland Brown Mommies” [00:07:27] Diversity and inclusivity experiences in Oregon [00:08:05] Loneliness, pandemic impact, and the choice to take action [00:10:02] Mechanics of building an online-to-offline local mom community [00:12:13] Event planning by consensus and member feedback [00:13:43] Advice for those feeling lonely: why Pallavi didn’t just “join a club” [00:16:10] Taking the first baby step: how the group started with a single Facebook post [00:18:48] Tying community-building to entrepreneurship and DTOCS [00:21:03] From social group to business mentor network for South Asian women [00:24:34] Rejection, resilience, and pivoting toward progress [00:28:36] Pallavi’s passion for LinkedIn and how to connect with her/DTOCS [00:30:50] Rapid fire: morning routines, family priorities, and world travel tips [00:36:45] Closing and gratitude for Pallavi’s insightsABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: www.dtocs.comGET PALLAVI PANDE’S SPECIAL OFFER: Use coupon code DTOCS10 at checkout on our website - https://www.dtocs.com, for 10% off and free shippingNote from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.Join the conversation on social. Find the Art of Imperfect Adulting on Instagram @theartof_imperfect_adulting YouTube @imperfectadulting and TikTok @imperfectadultingIf you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIf you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofjFor Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stonebefore that I used Kit. Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Kim Nicol about the power and impact of asking for what you want. Specifically Kim share the story of how at age 24 she requested a 10-week unpaid sabbatical from her first salaried job. Kim is based in San Francisco. Listeners will gain insights into career pivots, self-advocacy at work, and the transformational value of travel and saying “yes” to yourself.Kim Nicol is an Executive Mindfulness Coach for leaders in diverse industries. She talks about the human side of leadership on The New Manager Podcast, and teaches Communication Strategies on Maven.Main Topics Covered:Self-advocacy in early career: Why and how Kim asked for an extended unpaid sabbatical in her early 20s.Overcoming fear in the workplace: Navigating the nerves and uncertainty that come with requesting big things from your employer.The role of supportive work cultures—Kim’s experience in a small, tight-knit company with no formal HR.Transformative power of travel: How living and learning in France expanded Kim’s worldview and triggered new personal growth.The difference between sabbaticals, leaves of absence, and corporate culture in the U.S.Lessons for managers: How leaders can approach unusual employee requests and foster growth.Applying boldness forward: How early self-advocacy continues to impact Kim’s professional and coaching life, and how she encourages others to ask for what they need.French culture, lifelong learning, and the “through line” of storytelling in Kim’s career.Quote from the Episode: “You can ask for things, it’s okay. They might even say yes. Be willing to be Pleasantly surprised at what someone might say yes to.” — Kim NicolTimestamps: [00:00:05] Intro & where Kim calls home—San Francisco and Santa Cruz roots[00:01:15] Childhood activities: tennis, college rowing, and the introversion of team sports[00:02:08] Kim’s first post-college job and studying marketing[00:03:12] Why marketing: the allure of storytelling and business[00:06:13] The big ask: requesting a 10-week sabbatical as a 24-year-old[00:07:16] Response & process: boss’s reaction, team structure, and no HR involvement[00:10:13] What inspired the idea of a sabbatical, French art, travel dreaming[00:11:14] No precedents: Kim's research, self-direction, and planning the trip[00:12:49] The ask unfolds: process details and how Kim presented solutions[00:15:28] Coworkers’ reactions: surprise, envy, and supporting young ambition[00:16:28] Returning to work: changed perspective and inevitable next steps[00:18:05] Manager’s perspective: Kim reflects on handling requests as a leader[00:19:59] Corporate vs. personal sabbaticals; evolving U.S. work culture[00:21:10] Long-term takeaways: power in asking and why it matters in professional development[00:23:44] The impact of cultural immersion and expanded worldview[00:25:40] Previous travel experiences and what inspired Kim’s French adventure[00:27:44] Closing, Kim’s current podcast, self-advocacy worksheet, and rapid-fire fun questions (“no eggplant!”)ABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: https://kimnicol.com/ or listen to her podcast, New Manager Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-new-manager-podcast/id1482942451If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIf you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. 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In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Lisi Lopez about taking the leap from a decade-long career in industrial engineering to embracing her true passion for writing. In this episode both the host and guest are in Miami but we still recorded it remotely. Listeners will be inspired by Lisi’s candid reflections on practical career choices, honoring family support, and nurturing passions alongside parenthood.Lisi Lopez is an engineer-turned-writer and a second-generation immigrant, born to a Cuban mother and a Puerto Rican father. In 2017, Lisi and her husband welcomed their middle son, who has Down Syndrome. Channeling her passion for writing, she began publishing advocacy articles to help create a world where her son's extra chromosome is celebrated rather than seen as a disability. Through that journey, she rediscovered her love for storytelling and hasn't looked back since.Main Topics Covered:Making a major career shift from engineering to creative writing, and what prompted Lisi to make that leap.How family support, practical decision-making, and cultural expectations influenced her educational and professional choices.The impact of parenting, particularly raising a child with Down syndrome, on Lisi’s priorities, creativity, and eventual career transformation.A behind-the-scenes look at balancing a demanding household, marriage to a physician, and personal ambition.The challenges and realities of leaving a stable, technical career for an uncertain but fulfilling creative pursuit.How Lisi blends advocacy for special needs and her Cuban heritage into her writing projects.The importance of rediscovering and honoring creative passions at any stage in adulthood.The power of community, flexibility, and resilience—especially for women navigating work, family, and self-discovery.Quote from the Episode: "But that doesn’t mean you have to put your passions on a shelf. Right. It’s not a give or take. It’s not a black or white thing here." — Lisi LopezTimestamps: [00:00:05] Amy welcomes Lisi and kicks off with childhood storytelling favorites[00:00:51] [Lisi Lopez] shares Harry Potter as the book that sparked her imagination[00:01:44] Discussing the cultural phenomenon of Harry Potter for both kids and adults[00:04:04] How long Lisi worked as an industrial engineer and what the role entailed[00:05:58] Lisi on the creativity and challenges of being an engineer—especially as a parent[00:07:18] The “practical” choice to pursue engineering and balancing family expectations[00:08:09] Rediscovering writing through electives and family advocacy after her son’s birth[00:13:31] How parenting (and her husband’s medical career) influenced her shift away from engineering[00:16:13] Lisi’s "aha moment" after back surgery—publishing the manuscripts she’d hidden away[00:17:59] Navigating marriage, medical school, and raising three children with family support[00:25:10] Lisi outlines her published and upcoming historical fiction novels, including stories tied to her Cuban American heritage[00:28:32] Delving into Cuban immigration waves and their impact on storytelling[00:31:08] Where listeners can find Lisi online, and how she connects with readers[00:32:10] Fun closing questions—adult responsibilities, movies, gifting, and moreABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges. You can expect interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: https://www.lisilopezauthor.comFind Lisi’s most recent book on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/a/87491/9798992480009If you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestIf you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. 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In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Cristina Ramirez about personal and professional pivots, the power of discomfort, and redefining resilience in the face of grief and change. Cristina, currently living in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania (by way of Miami and New Mexico), shares how her life experiences—including global moves, founding a kids’ run club, and facing profound loss—have shaped her philosophy on growth, mindset, and helping children (and adults) build grit. Listeners will hear firsthand how Cristina transformed adversity into action, scaled her business, and found meaning and connection through both her personal journey and her work with DashStrom.About Cristina M. Ramirez:Cristina M. Ramirez is Co Founder of DashStrom, a youth empowerment start-up based in Pittsburgh, PA. Her programs have impacted over 12,000 children across 41 states. A veteran of Wall Street and Silicon Valley, Cristina is an award winning coach, best selling author, Ironman triathlete and a USASA Snowboard National Silver Medalist.Main Topics Covered:Reinventing yourself: How Cristina pivoted from educator and triathlete to entrepreneur, author, and grief survivorStarting and scaling DashStrom: Building a children's run club into an impactful, scalable program focused on empowering kids across the U.S.Navigating grief and life transitions: The reality of losing parents and a spouse while parenting and running a businessThe role of discomfort in personal growth: Applying the “20% power principle” and why leaning into uncomfortable situations is key for resilienceAuthenticity over appearance: Facing the fear of “course correcting” in life or business and letting go of external expectationsUsing social media for support: The surprising comfort Cristina found in sharing her grief journey onlineEmbracing uncertainty: Why it’s okay to change directions, make mistakes, and follow new opportunities at any stage of adultingHelping kids thrive in the digital age: DashStrom’s mission to combat screen time and mental health challenges in youthQuote from the Episode:“There is such so much pain that it cannot be more amplified... Having that shared grief with my community and with people, you know, that knew me and people that didn’t know me, yeah, it felt good. It felt like that wall, like there were other people there with me.” — Cristina RamirezTimestamps:00:06 – Welcome, Cristina’s global sense of “home”, and landing in Pittsburgh00:53 – Why Pittsburgh is an underrated city with culture, art, and sports02:42 – The birth of the kids’ run club: lessons from Ironman and changing mindsets04:41 – From “I’m Possible Run Club” to DashStrom: The story behind the name and brand06:46 – Moving from Miami to New Mexico: On shaking up family life and the role of grief09:30 – The shock and aftermath of losing her husband, and communicating grief publicly13:44 – Social media as a support system during tragedy15:03 – Writing “Empowered by Discomfort”: Why and how the book came to be17:17 – The “reverse Uno” move: Going back to DashStrom full-time after adult coaching20:41 – Mindset shifts, facing doubts, letting go, and reinventing yourself25:00 – Unexpected paths: Following “breadcrumbs” and reaching thousands of kids nationwide27:41 – Where to find Cristina’s book and how to get involved with DashStrom29:14 – Cristina’s triathlon update, creating tranquility through shamanic drumming, and applying life lessons from growing up internationally33:05 – Closing reflections and gratitudeYou can find Cristina’s Book, Empowered by Discomfort here https://bookshop.org/a/87491/9798987856000ABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIf you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofjFor Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stonebefore that I used Kit. Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Kristina Heaugh-Avritt about the complexities of school choice, navigating "cracks in the system" of public education, and redefining joyful, values-based learning at home. Kristina, based in Southern Oregon, brings nearly three decades of classroom experience and her perspective as a special needs parent to the conversation. Together, they dive deep into teacher burnout, the shifting landscape of education, and the empowering journey of supporting alternative learning paths for families.Kristina Heagh-Avritt is the founder of Vibrant Family Education and the co-host of the Bringing Education Home podcast. After over 30 years in education, she now guides parents to create joyful, connected, values-based learning at home. She is dedicated to helping families raise happy, healthy, and successful children who love to learn and feel deeply supported.Main Topics Covered:The evolving realities and challenges within public school systems, including “teaching to the test” and loss of teacher autonomyHow administrative shifts and tech demands have impacted both teachers and families, especially after the pandemicThe crucial role of parent involvement and how modern schools have unintentionally created barriers to collaborationNavigating burnout as an educator: emotional shifts, leaving legacy workplaces, and the hard decision to step awayThe difference between replicating traditional schooling at home versus designing custom home education experiencesDemystifying alternative education: homeschooling, unschooling, road schooling, and world schooling—and how to choose the right fitAddressing family values, holistic learning, and handling fears about “missing something” in home-based educationHow Kristina supports parents through 1:1 coaching, building accountability, routines, and personally tailored plansQuote from the Episode: “I think a lot of it had to do with helping other people, you know, and just knowing that the children I could impact and help grow and change and be confident and stuff. When I started school, I wasn't very confident, and I grew into my confidence and my capabilities with great teachers. … When you're watching, watching a little kid and they finally get something, their eyes pop open, and you can almost literally see that little cartoon bubble, light bulb above their head going, I got it right.” — Kristina Heaugh-AvrittTimestamps: [00:00:06] Welcome & intros; Kristina shares her Oregon roots [00:01:20] Snow days: Why Kristina prefers evening walks over outdoor sports [00:02:04] Kristina’s dual perspective—teacher and special needs parent [00:03:06] Why second and third grades are a “sweet spot” for growth [00:04:06] Teaching all subjects except PE, music, and library [00:04:27] Big district restructuring: Shifts, chaos, and adapting [00:05:16] Being an academic “bookworm” and loving school childhood [00:06:01] Mrs. Reynolds: The teacher who inspired Kristina’s journey [00:06:58] Motivation for teaching: Helping kids gain confidence [00:08:13] Hitting limits—“loving kids through the cracks in the system” [00:09:00] From connection to burnout: Policy, tests, and admin changes [00:11:07] Curriculum before “teaching to the test”—what flexibility looked like [00:12:39] What changed for teachers who fell behind rigid test schedules [00:15:40] Slow decline, parent disconnect, and impact of frequent admin turnover [00:17:57] The increasing barriers for parent involvement at school [00:21:58] Principal changes and the loss of school “family” [00:23:14] Making the difficult decision to leave classroom teaching [00:24:20] Transition into Vibrant Family Education—helping parents directly [00:27:32] What does Kristina’s coaching offer? Foundations for alternative and home learning [00:29:51] What “values-based” really means: Tailoring to each family’s traditions [00:32:29] The mistake of trying to “bring school home” vs. building custom routines [00:34:19] Kristina’s ebook offer: Education at home in 10 simple stepsABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: Kristina has a podcast: Bringing Education Home - https://feeds.captivate.fm/bringing-education-home/GET KRISTINA’S SPECIAL OFFER: Education at Home in 10 Simple StepsEducation at Home in 10 Simple Steps eBook is the guide for those who are ready to get started on their homeschool journey. Our #1 goal for this book is to help you feel comfortable taking the first, best step in your child’s education change.Value - Freehttps://link.vibrantfamilyeducation.com/widget/form/RZnPGWRIufhO8paew0I4Note from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIf you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofjFor Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stonebefore that I used Kit. Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Emily Paulsen about the realities of being child free by choice. Emily joins from Chicago, Illinois.The audience will gain clarity on how to talk about family planning (or the lack thereof) with sensitivity, learn about the shifting landscape for Gen Z and Millennials, and explore the sometimes unseen ripple effects of opting out of parenthood.About Emily Paulsen: Emily Paulsen is an award-winning entrepreneur and happily childfree woman shining a light on the often overshadowed childfree-by-choice perspective. Whether interviewing innovative experts or positioning leaders to scale through her Brand Studio, Electric Collab, Emily’s power lies in allowing people to feel seen and celebrated for who they are . She’s spent years honing the ability to deeply understand and amplify others in an honest, high-impact way.Main Topics Covered:The evolving cultural conversation and data on living child free, including global trends and generational differences.Why representation matters—how seeing alternative life paths enables true personal choice, and the impact of visibility in media, workplaces, and families.Navigating family and friend reactions when "coming out" as child free, and why supportive communities make a difference.Workplace bias, caregiving double standards, and the ripple effects of assumptions about who will (or won’t) have children.The pressure, pain points, and social judgments embedded in conversations around parenthood—and what to say (or not say) to someone who is child free.How internal clarity and confidence develop over time, and the importance of talking about personal decisions openly but respectfully.The nuanced differences between being child free by choice and by circumstance, with discussion about language, labels, and surveys.The value of parallel life paths and rejecting the idea that one way of "adulting" is better than another.Quote from the Episode: "My goal is for women, for all people really, to understand themselves well enough to make a choice that's right for them. And I think that choice becomes a lot more fair when you see both sides of that decision." — Emily PaulsenTimestamps: [00:00:05] Amy welcomes Emily; Chicago’s winter wonderland; favorite winter activities[00:01:57] Child free by choice: Amy introduces the topic; Emily shares her passion for representation[00:02:30] Data and trends: declining birth rates, international comparisons, and generational shifts[00:04:23] Survey limitations: why it’s hard to research people’s choices and the categories of child free, childless, and more[00:08:57] Emily’s personal story: When she realized motherhood wasn’t for her, and how family scripts shape our view of adulthood[00:14:12] Barbie, representation, and the power of seeing alternatives in childhood play[00:15:04] Why it’s not about convincing others to be child free, but about informed, personal decision[00:17:58] The workplace: maternity leave, double standards, and caring for aging parents[00:20:05] The internal journey: relief, “awakening,” and the complexities of telling others about being child free[00:24:24] Sensitivity and conversations: Recognizing that choices about family are deeply personal and varied[00:26:27] Societal assumptions, parental expectations, and the generational “timeline”[00:34:07] The ripple effect: how choices echo through families and communities[00:37:40] Public conversations: intrusive questions, Uber driver moments, and survey double standards[00:41:37] On judgment, selfishness, and why choice—not sides—matters most[00:43:49] How workplace and community structures spark comparison among women (and why the problem isn’t kids vs. no kids)[00:51:31] Emily’s best advice for talking to child free adults: Don’t ask why, and be normal![00:52:18] About Emily’s podcast: “Curious Life of a Child Free Woman” and how to connectABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: https://www.curiouslifeofachildfreewoman.com/Listen to Emily Paulsen’s Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/curious-life-of-a-childfree-woman/id1777850561https://open.spotify.com/show/6sT7kPp4dOthbvXAFZPOBNIf you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestIf you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofjFor Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stonebefore that I used Kit. Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Joanne Gates about navigating motherhood, career ambition, and the realities of working in the male-dominated tech industry. Joanne, joining from Scottsdale, Arizona, recounts her move from Boston to Seattle, her nearly 30-year career at Microsoft, and the pivotal choices she made as both a mom and a leader. Listeners will discover how Joanne carved out success in corporate America, confronted workplace bias, and now channels her expertise into coaching women to thrive at work and at home.About Joanne Gates:Joanne Gates is a certified executive life coach who helps professional women in tech and male-dominated industries unlock their career potential with clarity, confidence, and purpose. After a 30-year career at Microsoft—rising from entry-level to executive—Joanne now empowers women to overcome imposter syndrome, people-pleasing, and perfectionism while building authentic leadership presence. She’s especially known for helping women get promoted into senior leadership roles and then kick ass once they’re there—navigating high-stakes environments with emotional intelligence, strategic influence, and unapologetic power. Joanne blends deep empathy with sharp business acumen to help her clients lead boldly, drive impact, and rewrite the rules of leadership.Main Topics Covered:The life-altering impact of motherhood on career paths, especially for women in tech and male-dominated corporate environments.Facing and overcoming gender bias and assumptions about working mothers in the workplace.The challenges and family dynamics of being the primary breadwinner and having a stay-at-home dad partner in the late '90s and early 2000s.Navigating pivotal career decisions, missed opportunities, and the trade-offs of prioritizing family vs. pursuing senior leadership.Advocating for oneself in corporate hierarchies, especially when faced with unfair evaluations or lack of managerial support.The evolution (and limitations) of maternity leave policies and the importance of workplace systems that genuinely support parents.Joanne’s transition from a senior leader at Microsoft to executive and life coaching for women, with a focus on helping others define and achieve their own success.Practical tips for protecting your career trajectory, handling performance reviews, and knowing when (and how) to escalate workplace concerns.Quote from the Episode:"I felt like I had to, like, shake him by the shoulders… How many guys have to have this conversation? That just pisses me off. We have to because, obviously, it’s pretty apparent that we’re having a child." — Joanne GatesTimestamps: [00:00:04] Welcome, Joanne’s location, and adjusting to life in the desert [00:00:46] Childhood winter activities and chasing the sun [00:01:37] Introducing today’s topic: balancing motherhood and career [00:02:29] On generational change—and how much (or little) has shifted for working women [00:03:19] The Covid reset and women leaving corporate roles; Joanne’s new passion for helping women succeed [00:04:24] Joanne’s career start, move to Microsoft in the dot-com era [00:07:21] Early influences, engineering in college, and professional aspirations in a male-driven world [00:11:19] On early career choices, family expectations, and the pressure to decide your future “from a very young age” [00:13:14] Strategic family planning vs. reacting to life—how Joanne and her husband made tough choices [00:17:55] Deciding which parent would stay home, and the financial/logistical realities in a pre-remote work world [00:19:25] The loneliness and community gap for stay-at-home dads [00:22:18] Microsoft’s corporate culture around mothers in the ’90s/early 2000s—assumptions, bias, and policy limitations [00:25:27] The invisible penalty of motherhood: performance reviews, pay, and navigating “fairness” [00:31:10] Maternity leave policies then and now—fears around job security and returning to work [00:36:32] Systemic challenges: why do big companies struggle to change on women and family policy? [00:38:25] Lack of diversity, groupthink, and the value of disruptors in changing corporate culture [00:41:46] How Joanne stayed and thrived at Microsoft, even as most opted out [00:42:03] Major trade-offs: missing opportunities for the sake of family [00:47:06] Facing career setbacks, fighting for promotion, and deciding not to “rage quit” [00:53:12] Tactical advice: documenting your worth, knowing when—and how—to advocate for yourself [00:55:01] Joanne’s mission now: mentoring and coaching women in corporate life [00:56:08] What’s different for working women today, and a special offer for listeners [00:57:27] Lightning round: morning routines, relaxation, and spending on selfABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. 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