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The Backline - An Improv Podcast
by The Sonar Network
Canadian Comedy Award winners Rob Norman and Adam Cawley discuss weekly improv-based topics based on a theme. New episodes every Wednesday.
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Paying the Tax
This week Rob and Adam, discuss the painful but necessary process of “Paying the Tax” , while trying to stay present, apply class lessons, and putting in the reps. Despite all of that, the laughs still aren’t coming. If you’ve ever felt stuck between learning and getting laughs, this episode is for you.
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Rehearsal Vibes
This week, Rob and Adam open up the Backline Mailbag and find, wouldn’t you know it, two questions about rehearsal. In this episode they discuss the strange shift that happens when rehearsal turns into performance — why things that feel easy in practice suddenly feel impossible on stage. They talk about whether it’s okay to revisit ideas that worked before, and why a team that looks great in rehearsal might struggle in front of an audience.
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PATREON EXCLUSIVE: Going Solo with Monika Smith
In this episode, Monika Smith—actor, writer, and comedian—dives into the art of solo improv, sharing how she transforms a single suggestion into an entire world of characters, stories, and unexpected turns. Drawing from her years touring with The Second City and performing at UCB in iconic shows like ASSSSCAT and Harold Night, Monika unpacks what it takes to hold the stage alone with nothing but instinct, imagination, and a willingness to embrace the unknown.
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The Day of All Days
This week, Rob and Adam turn their attention to the concept “Day of All Days.” It’s a phrase that suggests high stakes and life-changing moments, yet so many of the most memorable scenes revolve around the smallest, most ordinary situations. Why do mundane premises so often lead to the biggest laughs? And what does “importance” really look like in an improvised scene?
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Underwhelmed
This week, Rob and Adam explore how to navigate scenes with a partner who brings a limited emotional range. Together they break down the difference between performing emotion and truly embodying it, and offer practical ways to create better scenes using radical acceptance.
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Lost
In this episode of The Backline, Rob and Adam explore why performers lose their footing, from overthinking to disconnection, and share practical ways to stay present, reconnect, and move forward without spiraling into shame when you get lost in a scene. Also, a question about basketball, bullying anyone about anything, and the special relationship between a man and his dragon.
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Learning but Bored
Advanced improv can be tricky—students freeze, forget the game, or feel overwhelmed by structure. This week Rob and Adam discuss practical strategies to reduce overload, and motivate students who may never perform but just want to have fun. Also, "Missiles", door-Ohs, and your new favourite mantra "It's just a body".
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PATREON EXCLUSIVE: What Makes a Scene with Mick Napier
Mick Napier is an acclaimed director, teacher, and author of Improvise: Scene from the Inside Out. Mick founded Chicago’s Annoyance Theatre, served as the artistic consultant at The Second City, and worked with comedy icons like Tina Fey, Stephen Colbert, and Amy Sedaris. This week, Adam and Mick discuss directing in Toronto, what makes a strong scene, and why bold choices matter.
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Awareness VS. Agency
This week Rob and Adam discuss how to create interiority in a character, how focussing too much on heightening can create undesired outcomes, and how intentionally burning your own Game of the Scene can make for a more interesting, and psychologically complex character.
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Is it a Scam?
This week, Rob and Adam discuss shady improv classes, incompetent improv teachers, and what to do when you’re dissatisfied with your experience in the classroom.
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A Surprising Way to Teach Improv
This week Rob and Adam discuss different methods of teaching improv, what's the best way for a teacher to get their ideas across, and how context changes an improv teacher's lesson plan.
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Is this the End of the Second City e.t.c?
This week, Rob and Adam unpack a major shake-up at The Second City. Starting January 22, 2026, the historic e.t.c. Stage shifts from scripted sketch to Improv Supernova, a fully improvised show—the first change in its 43-year history. They explore why the move makes sense now and what it means for the future of Second City, improv, and sketch comedy.
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Shame, Scene Hogs, and Everything Else
Rob and Adam answer three questions from a single listener. This week they discuss shame, greedy scene partners, and how to strengthen your comedic muscles offstage.
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To Care or Not Care
This week Rob and Adam discuss the delicate balance between telling jokes and caring about the reality of the scene, when it makes sense to care in your scene, and how to start investing in the reality more.
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Fresh Start
We all make mistakes—but how do we recover when they happen onstage? Is there a magic phrase an improviser can use to win the audience back? This week, Rob and Adam discuss the best strategies for recovering after bombing a scene.
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The Backline Holiday Special 2025
This week Rob and Adam reflect on the year and give spread thanks to improv communities across the world: Ann Arbor, Chris the Cameraman, mentorship from Greg Yates, and never giving up on the dream of a Magnet House team.
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Bulldozer
In this episode, Rob and Adam dive into the challenges of handling heavy offers, navigating information overload, and figuring out how to deal with unexpected “bulldozers” that can derail an improv scene. They break down practical strategies, share examples, and explore how to keep scenes playful, collaborative, and fun.
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Touch the Lamassu!
This week, Rob and Adam tackle a tricky question: does your improv teacher have secrets to share, or are they full of it? With countless improv styles—many of them contradicting each other—it can be tough to know what to believe. Rob and Adam explore how improv ideas get passed down, why some “rules” stick, and how performers can figure out what’s actually useful.
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PATREON EXCLUSIVE: The Origins of Impro with Patti Stiles
This week, Adam Cawley talks with renowned improviser, director, and author Patti Stiles, a longtime Keith Johnstone student and key figure at the Loose Moose Theatre. Patti shares insights from her decades of international teaching and performing, exploring how whimsy, curiosity, and emotional honesty shape great impro. She also reflects on the early origins of the art form and what makes Loose Moose such a vital, innovative home for improvisers around the world.
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From Classroom to the Stage
This week Rob and Adam discuss the transitioning your skills from the classroom to the stage. Why is it so hard to do what works in an exercise, onstage in front of an audience?
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Spark-less
Rob and Adam talk about navigating your improv career, dealing with self-doubt, and having honest conversations with yourself about what's possible and what is probable.
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Intelligence VS. Integrity
This week, Rob and Adam dsicuss the time-honoured tradition of playing to the "Top of their Intelligence" by having a very dumb discussion about characters, point of view, and how much smart should you perform while improvising onstage.
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Offensive
Improv is not historically known for being offensive, but sometimes improvisers cross the line. Why is comedy so frequently associated with offense? Does comedy need to be provocative to be funny? What do you do if you offend your audience? All this and more.
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PATREON EXCLUSIVE: Under Pressure with Colin Mochrie
Rob is no more. This week Adam welcomes Second City alumni, and star of Whose Line Is It Anyway?, Colin Mochrie to the podcast. Adam and Colin chat about pressure both onstage and offstage, and what it takes to find success in improv.
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Who, What, Where - but When?
This week Rob and Adam chat about framing scenes prior, during, or after the action. Do scenes always need to start in the middle? What's the best way to execute a tag-in? If you mention an event, does it always have to happen onstage?
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Platforms, Tilts, and Improvising Action
This week Rob and Adam, discuss platforms and tilts for improv scenes, how sketch influences scenes, and how to create action without blindsiding their scene partner.
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PATREON EXCLUSIVE: Making Your Own Work with Shreya Parashar
Rob is no more. In his stead, far superior host Shreya Parashar takes over. Adam and Shrea discuss making your own work, finding your voice, and figuring out what comes next.
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Technique
The improv world is full of technique. What techniques help individual improvisers? What techniques benefit the theatre you play at? Are there techniques you should embrace? Or some that you should avoid?
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Tethering
This week Rob and Adam discuss tethering: the act of linking your emotional state to what your partner is doing. Also, some great questions about tethering from our friend Martin in Estonia.
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Questions Only - September 2025
The truth is out! After a tumultuous three weeks apart, Rob and Adam return to the podcast to air thier grievances, resolve differences, and answer your questions about improv.
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PATREON EXCLUSIVE: Completely Justified with Will Hines
In this Patreon exclusive, Will Hines, author of "How to be the Greatest Improviser on Earth" joins co-host Adam Cawley to discuss the subtle art of justification.
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Competition is the Thief of Joy
This week Rob sits down with one of the organizers of the Robin Hood Improv Festival in Nottingham, Lloydie, to discuss competition, inclusion, and finding community in the face of rejection.
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Game Revisited
This week Rob and Adam debate the merits of Game of the Scene, pulling premise, and how to create meaningful patterns that bolster your longform show.
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Get Connected
This week Rob and Adam discuss connection, rapport, relationships onstage and offstage. Also, is it possible to have a meaningful conneciton with a stranger onstage?
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Form Follows Function
This week Rob and Adam discuss improv forms! What makes a good improv form? When does your improv format get in the way of your scenes? Also, the beloved format "Darwin's Christmas Tree" returns to the podcast!
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There's Nothing More Boring Than Creativity
This week, Rob and Adam dive into where improv ideas come from, how to wrestle with creative blocks, and why the supposedly “whimsical” act of creating can be surprisingly… boring.
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PATREON EXCLUSIVE: Characters Everywhere with Inessa Frantowksi
Inessa Frantowski may literally be the only human on earth who has performed on The Second City Mainstage, The Upright Citizens Brigade's Maude Team, The Groundlings Sunday Company, as well as solo character work at The Just for Laughs Festival and America's Got Talent. This week she co-hosts the episode with Adam. Tips, Tools and insights into the different ways each theatre approaches the creation and building of comedic characters.
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Do You Like Me?
There's nothing more unfair when an audience picks their collective favourite onstage. How important is it to be likable onstage? What can you do to stay on the good side of a discerning crowd? And most importantly, is there any path back towards the audience's good graces?
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Classroom to the Stage
This week Rob and Adam discuss the careful art of taking lessons from the classroom and applying them to the stage.
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How Do I Know If I'm Getting Better?
This week Rob and Adam discuss personal growth, improvement, and developing yourself throughout your improv career.
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Active Choice VS. Action Choice
This week Rob and Adam discuss one of the foundational rules of improv, "Always make the active choice." In the age of modern improv, what does an active choice look like? How does an "active choice" interact wtih Game of the Scene? What's the difference between "action" and an "active choice?"
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PATREON EXCLUSIVE: Starting Scenes with Susan Messing
This week Rob is knocked unconscious, and replaced with Second City alumni, and Annoyance Theater mainstay, Susan Messing. In this episode, Adam and guest host, Susan Messing discuss starting scenes, making strong choices, and controlling your own spine.
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The Anaesthetic of Yes And
We're told that Yes And is the building block of every improv scene, but are there are drawbacks when using this tool? This week Rob and Adam discuss the origins of Yes And, how to agree effectively, and how to use emotion to hold the story in place.
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Find the End
This week Rob and Adam discuss how to find your ending onstage, what a resolution looks like onstage, and how your ending might differ based on what format you're playing. Thanks to ITS Company Director Kate Coates.
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Scene Paint Me (Like One of Your French Girls)
This week Rob and Adam discuss scene painting within scenes, openers, and transitions. As well as Mitch Marner, ceremonial swords, and the science of revenge.
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Patreon Exclusive - Tips for a New Coach #1
The Backline launches a new series of mini-episodes called Come Render With Me - a Patreon Exclusive where host Rob Norman directly responds to Patreon questions and comments. In this episode, Rob offers some tips for new coaches and how to navigate tricky personalities on your team.
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Narrative Longform
This week Rob and Adam discuss story-structure, the limitations of modular improv, and how to create simple narratiaves for your improv show. Thanks to Garrett for his contribution to the Backline Mailbag.
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Too Big
This week Rob and Adam discuss nuanced characters, creating active audience members, and avoiding going too big when onstage. Plus, the shame of not feeling enough onstage, some upcoming touring in the fall, and how every improviser is either Superman or Superboy onstage.
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Patreon Exclusive - Genuine Emotions
This week Rob and Adam discuss emotional gravitas, vulnerability, and channeling darker emotions onstage. How real can emotions get on an improv stage? Are there any emotions that just aren't funny? What if funny isn't the goal?
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Body Movin'
This week Rob and Adam discuss finding the fun in physicality, object work for your improv essay and the antidote for Talking Heads Syndrome. Also covered: playing negative, not judging yourself, and Adam admits he was wrong about stacks/sacks.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Canadian Comedy Award winners Rob Norman and Adam Cawley discuss weekly improv-based topics based on a theme. New episodes every Wednesday.
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The Sonar Network
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