The Bitcoin Economy

Join host Avi Mash and Jody Flournoy as they sit down with Kevin Bell, CEO of Cadena Bitcoin, to explore the frontier of truly self-sovereign financial solutions built directly on the Bitcoin blockchain. This is a must-watch for anyone interested in non-custodial financial products, Bitcoin lending, and the future of peer-to-peer marketplaces.Kevin Bell, who transitioned from traditional finance, discusses his commitment to Bitcoin's programmability and the security of non-custodial ownership. Discover how Cadena Bitcoin is revolutionizing the space by developing a groundbreaking, Bitcoin-based loan product. Learn the mechanics of their peer-to-peer lending marketplace and why this innovation is essential for achieving true financial decentralization.🔑 KEY TOPICS & TIMESTAMPS:00:00 Introduction and Welcome01:10 Kevin Bell's Background: From TradFi to Bitcoin03:03 Exploring Bitcoin's Programmability and its investment potential03:58 The Genesis: Developing a Non-Custodial Bitcoin Loan Product08:19 Mechanics of the Peer-to-Peer Bitcoin Lending Marketplace (P2P lending)15:10 Tackling Challenges and Innovations in Bitcoin Lending30:35 The Future of Bitcoin and Financial Decentralization43:04 Closing Thoughts and Contact Information (Connect with Cadena Bitcoin)👉 Connect with Cadena Bitcoin: www.CadenaBitcoin.com | @CadenaBitcoin on X #bitcoin #bitcoinlending #defionbitcoin #cadenabitcoin #kevinbell #avi_mash #selfsovereignty #bitcoinloans #p2plending #bitcoineconomy #decentralizedfinance #noncustodial:

Thank you to our sponsors Ledn and Crypto.com Crypto.com: https://shorturl.at/G3DSDLedn: http://bit.ly/4m13UGJWall Street is building Bitcoin treasuries again, but this time the suits know the playbook.In this episode of The Bitcoin Economy Podcast, Avi sits down in a very cold Miami with Jaime Leverton, CEO of ReserveOne and former CEO of Hut 8, to unpack how a diversified digital asset reserve could become a public market giant.They get into1. Why Canada quietly front ran the United States on Bitcoin ETFs and crypto listings2. How liquidity and capital have now swung back to the United States3. What the SEC shutdown actually means for S4s and the ReserveOne timeline=4. Why ReserveOne is structuring a Bitcoin anchored, yield focused digital asset treasury instead of a simple buy and hold stack5. How they think about the mix, roughly eighty percent Bitcoin, twenty percent Ethereum, Solana, ADA, XRP and more6. Using free float market cap and yield generation to size positions7. Building in up to ten percent of assets for high conviction venture deals investors normally never see8. Lessons from V1 Bitcoin treasury companies that drew down eighty to ninety percent and how to avoid that fate9. Bringing deep Wall Street, Washington and private equity experience into a crypto native vehicle10. If you are trying to understand how the proposed United States Strategic Bitcoin Reserve idea is bleeding into real capital markets structures, this one is worth a close listen.In this episode0:00 Intro and frozen Miami2:10 Canada’s early lead in Bitcoin ETFs and miners7:00 Why liquidity has shifted back to the United States11:30 SEC shutdown, S4s and what happens when the lights turn back on16:50 Inside ReserveOne’s Bitcoin anchored treasury design23:40 The alt allocation and how they size Ethereum, Solana, ADA, XRP29:10 Using yield to offset company overhead33:20 Venture sleeve, access to private deals and risk controls39:00 Learning from early Bitcoin treasuries that got wrecked45:10 Board, governance and why Wall Street and Washington matter51:30 What Jaime took from Hut 8 into ReserveOne57:00 Travel nightmares, shutdown pain and building through macro noiseGuestJaime Leverton, CEO ReserveOneX: @JaimeLevertonHost and showThe Bitcoin Economy PodcastHost: Avi MashFollow Us on X: @21RatesHQSubscribe for more conversations on Bitcoin treasuries, listed vehicles and the collision between crypto and public markets.DISCLAIMER Nothing in this episode is investment, legal or tax advice. Always do your own research.

America Bitcoin and the AI Energy Race with Eric Trump and Asher GenootEric Trump joins The Bitcoin Economy Podcast to lay out why he believes America must control the next era of energy compute and money. Alongside American Bitcoin CEO Asher Genoot from Hut 8, we break down how US oil gas and nuclear can be turned into digital gold instead of letting China and other rivals dominate hash rate and AI infrastructure.If you care about Bitcoin mining US energy policy and the AI arms race this is your episode.In this conversation, we cover-Why Eric Trump was debanked and how that pushed him into Bitcoin-The origin story and mission of American Bitcoin and its partnership with Hut 8-How cheap US energy can power competitive Bitcoin mining on American soil-Why compute is the new energy story for national power and security-How Bitcoin per share can create a built in Bitcoin yield for shareholders-Why keeping hash rate in the US matters for Bitcoin security and the AI race-The role of oil gas and nuclear in powering Bitcoin data centers and AI-What it will take for America to beat China in Bitcoin and AI infrastructureChapters00:00 Introduction America Bitcoin and the new energy race00:38 Why Eric Trump was debanked and found Bitcoin02:27 The origin story of American Bitcoin and the mission05:31 Economic and philosophical drivers for American Bitcoin06:57 US energy policy challenges and mining opportunities10:02 Bitcoin AI and American innovation for the next decade14:27 Final thoughts conviction and Americas Bitcoin futureSubscribe for more deep dives on Bitcoin mining energy and the Bitcoin economy Follow us on X: @21RatesHQ Come check out more at: www.21Rates.com DISCLAIMER: Search termsEric Trump BitcoinAmerican Bitcoin Hut 8US Bitcoin miningBitcoin mining in AmericaChina vs America AI and BitcoinAsher Genoot interviewBitcoin energy oil gas nuclearDISCLAIMER: The views and opinions expressed in The Bitcoin Economy are those of the guests and do not represent the views or positions of the host, producers, or any affiliated organizations. This content is for informational and educational purposes only and is not financial, investment, legal, or tax advice. You should always do your own research and consult a qualified professional before making any financial decisions.

Grant Cardone Talks Real Estate, Bitcoin Investments and Overcoming Adversity | Bitcoin Economy PodcastAvi Mash welcomes Grant Cardone to discuss his journey from real estate mogul to Bitcoin enthusiast. They delve into Cardone's unique hybrid investment strategy, his personal struggles and triumphs, and his take on the future of Bitcoin and real estate.00:00 Introduction and Special Guest Announcement00:34 Grant Cardone's Early Life and Struggles01:21 The Impact of Losing a Father04:12 Mentorship and Misguidance06:26 Breaking Free from Addiction08:22 Transition to Bitcoin and Real Estate Insights12:57 The Importance of Learning Before Investing13:30 A Bitcoin Speaking Gig in 201314:21 Bitcoin Investments and Real Estate15:44 Combining Real Estate and Bitcoin18:45 The Future of Real Estate and Bitcoin19:07 Tax Implications and Industry Impact21:33 Challenges and Opportunities in Real Estate24:11 Final Thoughts and Future PlansThis podcast is brought to you by Ledn. Ledn is the global leader in Bitcoin-backed loans, issuing over $9 billion in loans since 2018, and they were the first to offer proof of reserves. Learn more about how Ledn is shaping the future of bitcoin lending here:

Thanks to our Sponsor at Ledn (BTC Lending); If you're looking to make cash without selling your bitcoin, learn more here. Bitcoin isn’t just about number go up. It’s about ripping out the old rails of finance and rebuilding them on-chain.In this episode of the Bitcoin Economy, Avi sits down with Jeremy Allman, CEO of PayStand—a company you’ve probably never heard of, yet it’s quietly powering over 1 million businesses and moving billions through the Bitcoin economy.Jeremy breaks down how PayStand is cutting out Visa, Mastercard, and wires, and giving companies a real competitive edge. He shares his personal journey from the dot-com boom to Occupy Wall Street, and why Bitcoin became the answer to “too big to fail.”This isn’t just theory. It’s enterprise adoption, circular economies, and grassroots Bitcoin education across El Salvador, Guatemala, Cuba, and beyond. PayStand even reinvests 10% of profits into making Bitcoin usable for the other 7 billion people.If you want to understand how Bitcoin goes from speculation to infrastructure, this is it.⏱️ Timestamps00:00 Introduction and Event Overview01:33 Meet Jeremy Allman: Background and Journey02:57 PayStand: Revolutionizing Business Finance with Bitcoin03:16 Philanthropy and Global Impact06:29 Education and Grassroots Movements09:19 Institutional Adoption and Future of Bitcoin11:28 Employee Incentives and Bitcoin Integration14:20 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Bitcoin mining is more than mining — it’s an energy business. Hut 8 CEO Asher Genoot explains how energy infrastructure meets Bitcoin strategy, and why American Bitcoin (with Eric Trump on the team) represents a new approach to accumulation.00:00 – Introduction to Bitcoin Mining00:54 – HUT8's Business Model and Vision01:30 – Sponsorship Message from Leadin01:52 – Interview with Asher Nu: Background and Insights04:59 – American Bitcoin: Strategy and Vision08:39 – Tax Benefits and Mining Services09:22 – Working with the Trump Family11:53 – Conclusion and Future PlansThis podcast is brought to you by @hodlwithLednLoan BTC and get $ without selling your Bitcoin$9 billion in loans since 2018First to offer proof of reservesLearn more about how Ledn is shaping here

This podcast is brought to you by Ledn. Ledn is the global leader in Bitcoin-backed loans, issuing over $9 billion in loans since 2018, and they were the first to offer proof of reserves. Learn more about how Ledn is shaping the future of bitcoin lending here: http://bit.ly/4m13UGJIn this episode, we sit down with Alexandre Laizet, Director of Bitcoin Strategy at capital B, live from Bitcoin Asia in Hong Kong. Discover why Capital B rebranded from The Blockchain Group and how their “laser eyes” focus on Bitcoin accumulation is reshaping digital capital markets. “Volatility is opportunity”—hear why Alexander believes market swings are the key to building generational wealth and how capital B doubled its SATs per share in just three months, even as share prices dropped 50-60%. Get the inside scoop on their move to Abu Dhabi, the assembly of a “dream team” to meet surging institutional demand, and the innovative Bitcoin-denominated convertible notes that delivered up to 3000% returns in under a year.We're supported by Blockware. Their Mining-as-a-Service enables you to start mining Bitcoin right now, without lifting a finger. Blockware handles everything, from securing the miners, to sourcing low-cost power, to configuring the mining pool - they do it all. Get started today by going to mining.blockwaresolutions.com/tbeWe cover: 00:06 Rebranding to Capital B01:36 Building a Dream Team02:20 Future Opportunities and Investor Relations03:24 Focus on Long-Term Bitcoin Accumulation04:53 Relocating to Abu Dhabi06:36 Bitcoin Price and Market Strategy11:11 Volatility as Opportunity13:20 Transparency and Upcoming EventsFollow Alexandre on X: https://x.com/AlexandreLaizetDisclaimer: This content is for entertainment purposes only and not intended as financial, legal, or tax advice.

Special thanks to our sponsor @Ledn; our trusted partners for Bitcoin Lending: In this episode we speak with John Deaton, SEC drops Ripple case: XRP officially ruled a digital commodity, not a security.Trump's Bitcoin reserve plan: A budget-neutral push to stockpile more BTC.Wall Street giants like Goldman Sachs and Bank of America gearing up for crypto custody.Stablecoins poised for 10x growth in 5 years, according to Ripple's CEO.Urgent need for modern regulation: Ditch outdated 1946 laws for AI, blockchain, and quantum tech.Tokenization's potential to revive the American Dream through fractional ownership.Deaton's bold bet: 85% of his net worth in crypto—he's all in!Possible Senate run redux: But only if the crypto community rallies.Timestamps & Topics:00:00 "I was nine years old..." - A Political Challenger's Fiery Start & Crypto's Unexpected Role00:52 Breaking News: SEC's Ripple Retreat - Is This a Turning Point for Crypto?02:43 Tailwinds for Crypto: Are We Finally Seeing Mainstream Adoption?04:47 Beyond Bitcoin: Stablecoins, Regulation, and the Fight for Legitimacy12:51 From Wall Street to Main Street: Will Tokenization Democratize Wealth or Just TradFi 2.0?14:53 Trump's Bitcoin Strategy: Is the US Government HODLing or Making a Power Play?19:22 The Asymmetric Bet: Is Bitcoin a Safer Investment Today Than Ever Before?21:20 "You all suck!" - Political Battles, Warren's "Warmth," and the Realities of Running for Office29:55 Stablecoin Revolution: Are They the Key to Mass Adoption & Replacing Swift?34:30 Bullish on Bitcoin: But Will Crypto Fulfill Its Promise to Lift People Up?About The Guest: John Deaton, a decorated U.S. Marine Corps veteran and Judge Advocate, founded the Deaton Law Firm in 2006, achieving landmark victories against Fortune 100 companies on behalf of cancer victims. A magna cum laude graduate and bestselling author of "Food Stamp Warrior," he challenged Senator Elizabeth Warren in the 2024 Massachusetts Senate race as a pro-crypto advocate. Deaton represented over 75,000 XRP holders pro bono in the SEC v. Ripple case, pioneering a legal theory that ruled XRP a non-security and earning him the Defender of Freedom Award.

Thank you to : Need cash without selling your Bitcoin? LEDN On this episode we speak with John Hoffman, Managing Director of Grayscale. We discuss: 1. ETFs as a Gateway to Crypto AdoptionHow spot Bitcoin and Ether ETFs open a bridge for traditional investors to enter the digital asset market without direct custody.The role of ETFs in normalizing Bitcoin within regulated investment products, making it accessible through familiar brokerage accounts and retirement plans.The largest wealth transfer in history from Baby Boomers to Millennials and Gen Z — and why younger generations are more inclined toward crypto exposure.The idea that Bitcoin ETFs can be the “Trojan horse” for crypto adoption within inherited portfolios managed by traditional advisors.How financial advisors are increasingly under pressure to include crypto exposure in client portfolios or risk losing relevance.The “risk of omission” argument — inaction on crypto can be more dangerous for an advisor’s business than the volatility of the asset itself.Grayscale’s strategy to maintain leadership in the ETF space post-GBTC conversion.Innovation beyond plain exposure — e.g., low-cost Bitcoin mini trusts, covered call ETFs that generate yield from volatility.2. The Generational Wealth Shift3. Institutional and Advisor Engagement4. Grayscale’s Market Position

Looking to get cash for your bitcoin without selling? Check out Ledn today: https://shorturl.at/0aA11In this episode of the Bitcoin Economy Podcast, recorded live from Strategy World in Orlando, we sit down with Eric, Chairman of Semler Scientific, to discuss Bitcoin adoption for corporations. Eric shares his journey of steering his company towards a Bitcoin treasury strategy inspired by Michael Saylor's approach, the impact on 'zombie companies,' and the importance of institutional and sovereign acquisition of Bitcoin. We delve into the challenges and triumphs of convincing a board to embrace Bitcoin, the future of healthcare innovations at Similar Scientific, and how Bitcoin stands as a safe harbor akin to gold. Tune in for a deep dive into the intersection of Bitcoin and corporate strategy, with insights from one of the pivotal figures leading the charge.00:00 Introduction and Event Overview00:33 Bitcoin for Corporations: A New Financial Strategy01:11 Challenges and Opportunities for Zombie Companies03:38 Eric's Journey: From Passive Investor to Activist05:31 Michael Saylor's Influence and Strategy11:18 Similar Scientific's Healthcare Innovations14:05 Final Thoughts and Future Outlook