The Brick x Brick Podcast
by Brick By Brick Podcast
Welcome to Brick by Brick, the fusion of sports, music, culture, crypto, and real estate investing—hosted by Dave Jones and Jordan Dam.Whether you're an athlete, an investor, in the sports and entertainment culture, or someone eager to learn how others found success at the highest levels, Brick by Brick is your blueprint for turning ambition into action. Tune in to hear from industry leaders, trendsetters, and rising stars redefining what it means to win.Every brick tells a story—let’s build yours.
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A Tacoma Pro Went at No. 1 Pick Paolo Banchero at Isaiah Thomas's Pro-Am: "Oh, I'm at Him"
Summer 2022, Isaiah Thomas's Zeke-End in Tacoma. Paolo Banchero has just gone No. 1 in the NBA Draft, and pro hooper Fonzo Anderson draws him in the semis: "Oh, I'm at him." Then the final, where IT's team rolls out Mike James, Michael Beasley and Isaiah Thomas: "They about to bring out the...
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Jalen Brunson Owes California Taxes? A Former UBS Wealth Manager on Rookie Money Mistakes
What's the biggest money mistake a young athlete can make? Former UBS wealth manager Chad Smith: not understanding the time value of money, and rushing to be a businessman. Not financial advice. Rich for a while vs. wealthy forever, why a $50 million deal is really about $25 million by his rule…
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Texas' All-Time Leading Scorer: Drafted by the Bullets, Traded to Pat Riley's Heat, Then the Suns
From a Bronx playground to the top of the Texas record book. Terrence Rencher is still the Longhorns' all-time leading scorer, and his rookie year in the NBA was a ride. Drafted by the Bullets in 1995, traded on draft night to Pat Riley's Heat (when Erik Spoelstra was the video guy), then dealt…
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Kyrie Irving's Lucky Charms 4s: A Tacoma Hooper Won a 1v1 Tournament and Copped His Grail
Dave says what stands out most about Trey Collier isn't the hoops: it's a quality older than his age. Then: the Lucky Charms Kyrie 4s he bought after winning a 1v1 tournament. Plus a game-day playlist you wouldn't expect: SZA, Olivia Dean, YoungBoy and a lot of Drake. Trey Collier is a senior…
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Should High School Hoopers Chase the Money? A 17 PPG Senior: "I Just Really Want to Hoop"
What does a high school senior actually think about NIL? Silas point guard Trey Collier: "I just really want to hoop." But a little extra money right now is cool. Not financial advice. Plus the 1v1 money space, and why somebody should start one for high schoolers next summer. Trey Collier is a...
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What a 17 PPG Tacoma Point Guard Tells College Coaches: "I'm Just a Winner"
If a college coach is listening, what does Silas point guard Trey Collier bring? "I feel like I'm just a winner." Plus the Lincoln-to-Silas move and that back-and-forth Lincoln game that swung the season. Trey Collier is a senior point guard at Silas High School in Tacoma. Hosted by Dave Jones…
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From Lincoln to Silas: 17 PPG Tacoma PG Trey Collier on Senior Year, NIL and the 1v1 Dream
A Tacoma hooper on the Brick. Silas point guard Trey Collier led his team last season in points, assists and steals, and now it's senior year. Dave and Jordan get into the Lincoln-to-Silas move, the pitch to college coaches ("I'm just a winner"), NIL in high school, the 1v1 space, advice for...
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Didn't Want to Be a Student. Now Working on a Doctorate. | Korey Strozier
Korey Strozier got to Lincoln High in 2004 sure of one thing: "I didn't want to be a student." Now Korey's working on a doctorate in educational leadership. The 2008 job in Lincoln's athletic office that pointed the way, and why there are doors at every level. Korey Strozier is the President of…
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NIL Is a Premium Package. Athletes Need a Seat at the Table. | Korey Strozier
Korey Strozier says capitalizing on your brand is a skill, and NIL plus business sense plus the right people in your corner is "a premium package." Not financial advice. Plus Dave's problem with the system: decisions about what athletes get paid with no union at the table. Korey Strozier is the...
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Mastercard Says AI Agents Are Already Spending Money for You. Here's Why Crypto Matters.
AI isn't just a chatbot anymore. Agentic AI books the hotel, builds the software, and pays on your behalf, and Mastercard just put out a piece on how AI agents are changing the future of payments. Not financial advice. Dave breaks down why billions of agent transactions need faster rails like...
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Penny Hardaway Putting $2.6M of His Own Money Into Memphis?? + EA Sports CFB in Jeopardy
Should a coach have to put his own money in to keep his team competitive? Penny Hardaway says he put $2.6 million toward Memphis' roster this season, and Dave's not sure he likes that precedent. Not financial advice. Plus: EA Sports went from $600 a player to $1,500 for College Football, a…
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Tacoma Girls' Hoops Is About to Be Different | Korey Strozier
Korey Strozier on the state of Tacoma hoops: good basketball in every gym, and from middle school up the girls' side is "gonna be all right." Not financial advice. The Lincoln Abes, legends back on the sidelines, AAU exposure vs. the cash grab, and the WIAA's updated NIL language. Korey Strozier…
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Applied Twice. No Interview. Then the School Board Called. | Korey Strozier
Korey Strozier applied for two Tacoma School Board appointments, in 2015 and 2017, and never got an interview. Then in 2020, mid-pandemic, somebody called. Why Korey said yes, the virtual interview ("I ain't gotta do this"), 28,000 students, and becoming the second Black board president after...
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"Dad, I'm Just the Goat": Raising a 12-Year-Old Hooper | Korey Strozier
Korey Strozier coached and ran an athletic department, so when Korey's daughter started hooping, the hard part was knowing when to sit down. A Fisher-Price hoop, a six-month break and a lesson in pressure. Dave relates as a swim dad, and a 12-year-old tells her dad: "I'm just the goat." Then…
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$4,800 a Year to Oversee a $535 Million Budget | Korey Strozier
Tacoma's school board is responsible for a $535 million operating budget, and each member gets $4,800 a year. Korey Strozier breaks it down to $50 per activity per day. Not financial advice. Five board members, four with full-time jobs, showing up to every meeting and committee anyway. All Korey...
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That's What You Do, Not Who You Are | Korey Strozier
Korey Strozier is the President of the Tacoma School Board, and still leads with "a young man still trying to figure it out." Titles, positions and roles are what you do, not who you are. Plus the advice Dave gave Korey years ago: not Kobe, not LeBron, Tim Duncan. Change your game, or the...
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The Music I'm On Right Now: Apollo Brown & Skyzoo, Leon Bridges, The Physics & More
It's been a minute since Dave talked music outside of J. Cole's The Fall-Off. Here's everything in his rotation right now, and why anybody saying hip hop is falling off isn't listening. Apollo Brown & Skyzoo, Leon Bridges, Sango, Sean Brooks, AzChike, Pac Div, Dear Silas, Children of Zeus…
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From Lincoln High to School Board President: Korey Strozier's Tacoma Story
Korey Strozier's intro: "a young man still trying to figure it out." That's the President of the Tacoma School Board talking. Lincoln High class of '07, coach, graduation specialist and athletic director at Tacoma Public Schools, appointed to the board mid-pandemic on the third try. Dave and…
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Is the Crypto Bear Market Over? Bitcoin, ETH, Zcash & Bittensor Update
Bitcoin's sitting around $82K. Is the crypto bear market over? Dave pulls up the charts: the 200-week moving average, the $76K and $70K levels, and trading the fear & greed index. Plus ETH at a 30 RSI and why he picked up a bag, Zcash and NEAR running, Bittensor, and why he just dollar cost...
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Do You Have to Report NIL to Your School? | Conor Maguire
Conor Maguire's athletic director called a quick meeting: sign something saying you're making NIL money and you're all good. But what about UGC deals where Conor never mentions being a college athlete? Conor's rule (if you're making money as a college athlete, call it NIL), why to keep it above...
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Joel Embiid Doesn't Fit This Sixers Team (And I Have Questions)
Seven turnovers in the first preseason game, and a fall that almost took out Jaylen Brown. Dave's been saying it since the Olympics: Joel Embiid's slower feet don't fit how fast the game is played now. The Sixers don't need Embiid to be the focal point. They need him to rebound, protect the rim,...
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Started an IG 2 Weeks Into College. NIL Deals Followed | Conor Maguire
Two weeks into college at the University of Puget Sound, Conor Maguire started an Instagram documenting the day-to-day of a D3 athlete. The following grew fast and the NIL deals came with it. Not financial advice. How Conor ended up at Puget Sound, why D2, D3, JUCO and NAIA players all have an…
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Joel Embiid Doesn't Fit This Sixers Team? + Bitcoin at $82K + The Music I'm On
Dave goes solo: Bitcoin's sitting around $82K, so is the bear market over? The 200-week moving average, the levels he's watching, the fear & greed index, ETH at a 30 RSI, Zcash, NEAR, Bittensor, and why he just dollar cost averages on a 10-year horizon. Not financial advice. Then the Sixers: Joel...
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UGC: The Best-Kept Secret for College Athletes | Conor Maguire
You don't need a following to make money off content. Conor Maguire put a Puget Sound teammate on UGC through the Trybe app: apply to brands, they send product, you make the videos, they pay. Conor says that teammate made $4,000 in two and a half weeks. Not financial advice. Why athletes already...
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A $50 NIL Deal at 200 Followers… Then Real Money | Conor Maguire
Conor Maguire's first NIL deal came from a friend back home who built Ball AI, a shot-tracking app: $50 for one video, at about 200 followers. Not financial advice. How that grew into real money, the first deal with no prior connection ($150 for two videos from an energy spray brand), and why...
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Scored 63 in High School. Got 2 D3 Offers. | Conor Maguire
42 at halftime on senior night, 63 at the buzzer. Conor Maguire won a state title and scored 1,500+ career points, then sent every email, went to the elite camps and came out with two D3 offers. How Conor won a role at Puget Sound with hustle plays, why recruiting keeps getting harder with...
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Why Constraints-Led Training Is Taking Over Basketball | John Bickford
Would you learn French better from an app, or by moving to France? That's constraints-led training, and John Bickford calls it a wave basketball can't avoid. Why it looks like the trainer isn't doing anything, NBA teams warming up with small-sided games, why young players have a sustainability...
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D3 Hooper, Real NIL Money: Conor Maguire's Blueprint
Everybody's talking about NIL money for D1. What about the guys grinding in D2 and D3? Conor Maguire scored 63 in a game, won a state title in San Francisco and came out with two D3 offers. Two weeks into college at the University of Puget Sound, Conor started an Instagram documenting life as a…
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Training Trey Drechsel Back From a Knee Injury | John Bickford
Before he ever trained him, John Bickford was a fan, studying Trey Drechsel's content for years. Their first workouts didn't stick. Then Trey hurt his knee playing in Lithuania, and John reached out: no social media, nobody even has to know. How that turned into a summer of pros in the gym, the…
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Why Steve Kerr's Players Play FREE (and Your Kid Should Too)
Dave's breakfast club team at Foss turned it over again and again, and Dave kept throwing them the ball anyway: this is the time to mess up. John Bickford on the irrational fear of missing and why getting to the root of it makes better shooters, plus JDam on coaches who pull players for mistakes,...
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His Family Didn't Want Him to Hoop. Then His Knees Gave Out | John Bickford
John Bickford didn't get to play basketball until his senior year of high school. Sports were frowned upon in the strict religious home he grew up in, so he had to rebel just to play. He made it to college. Then junior year: torn ACL, then a torn meniscus, then a torn meniscus again. Three knee...
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Sports Parents, You Can't Force Your Kid to the NBA | Jordan Dam
"He's not growing." Maybe it's because you wake him up at 5 a.m. to train every day. JDam has seen it as a player, a trainer and a dad: the game is 90% mental, and too many parents load pressure on kids way too young. One sport only, yelling after a bad training, no deep sleep, and kids who quit...
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Why the Best Never Stop Learning: LeBron, Cryo & the 1990s RICE Method
You think LeBron is still hooping at this level off icing alone? JDam doesn't: mobility, massage, cryo. You have to stay ahead of the curve. Jordan and John on training from your own injury history, building your own data, why you don't train an 18-year-old elite athlete like a 90-year-old…
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He Quit His Job, Drove to Best Buy and Bet It All on a Garage Gym
John Bickford was tearing out and replacing school gym floors, thinking: why am I working on this court instead of being on it? So one day he quit, drove to Best Buy, bought a laptop and put all the money he had into a garage gym. "This has to work. There's no other option." How he built a body…
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From Garage Gym to Training Pros: John Bickford's Verity Mvmt Story
3 knee surgeries in one year, at 22. A family that didn't want him playing basketball at all. Then one day John Bickford quit his job, drove to Best Buy, bought a laptop and put every dollar he had into a garage gym. Today Verity Mvmt trains everyone from top youth players to overseas pros. Dave...
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The Fed HIKED and Bitcoin Is Still Running?? BTC at the Wall
The Fed just raised rates for the first time since 2023. That's supposed to be bad for Bitcoin and risk assets. So why is the whole market green?? Dave pulls up the weekly chart: BTC has been rejected at $82-83K multiple times. His honest read is he's a bear right here - one, two rejections, then...
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The Sonics Are Coming Back?? Climate Pledge Ready in 5 Weeks
Folks. By the end of this year we could have an official Sonics-coming-back situation. KOMO's Chris Daniels reported it: Adam Silver says NBA operational teams toured Climate Pledge Arena and it could be ready for a team in five weeks. Expansion decision by the end of 2026. Vegas is the other…
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The Clarity Act Just STALLED in the Senate
The Clarity Act - the Digital Asset Market Clarity Act - is the furthest crypto regulation has ever gotten. Decentralized digital commodities to the CFTC, fundraising and investment contracts to the SEC, stacked on last summer's Genius Act. It passed the House. Then it hit the Senate floor and...
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After Further Review: The Fall Off Is a CLASSIC
After further review... The Fall Off is a classic. And Dave's not moving on it. He did the quick review when it dropped, then lived with it for most of a year, went to the Fall Off Tour at Climate Pledge, and watched Cole rap for two-plus hours with no breaks. Drake, Kendrick, Ye - they all take…
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$10 Million to Transfer?? NIL Is Out of Control
A college quarterback just cost up to $10 MILLION to change schools. Jeremiah Smith turned down north of $10M to stay at Ohio State. Arch Manning is carrying $5.4M. But the top guys aren't the point. Dave's point is the $10K, $40K and $100K checks landing in regular athletes' accounts right now...
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Protect College Sports Act Passes 77-22... Protect WHO Exactly??
The Senate voted 77-22 to advance the Protect College Sports Act. Ted Cruz and Maria Cantwell are leading it. And Dave has questions. Who's protecting the players? No union, no representation, nobody in the room. Antitrust exemption for the NCAA after decades of violating student-athlete labor.…
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Change Is Happening RIGHT NOW: Sonics, Fed Hike, $10M NIL & Crypto
Everything changed in one week. The Sonics are actually close, the Fed HIKED for the first time since 2023, a college quarterback is worth $10 million, and the Senate voted 77-22 to "protect" college sports - from who, exactly?? Dave goes solo and runs the whole board: Adam Silver saying Climate...
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Pass the Eye Test: The Year Off That Made Tony Fair a Pro
Europe won't invest in you if you don't pass the eye test. Tony Fair was 6'6", super skilled... and super wiry. So the work that made him a pro wasn't even basketball: eating, weight room, 175 to 200 pounds. And the year off between Bushnell and Evergreen? Journaling every morning, soul…
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What Everyone Gets Wrong About JUCO Basketball
They bring in 25 guys because they KNOW only 15 will still be there by season. That's the JUCO truth nobody tells you. Tony Fair breaks down what people get wrong about the route: it's not a punishment, it's a springboard — if you show up every day, on time, and handle your business in the...
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Get the Bag, Keep the Bag: Real NIL Money Talk for Athletes
Who's earning $500K a year off raw salary? Almost nobody. So if the NIL bag comes, what you DO with it is everything. Dave breaks down why athletes need that money working — passive income, investment property, an actual plan — and what Brick by Brick is building to help athletes through exactly...
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Signed a FAKE Contract: How Athletes Get Scammed by Agents
JDam signed his first "pro contract" a week before flying to Australia — and it was a scam his own head coach put him on. Fake contract, sketchy visa requests, a whole season lost. Tony Fair did it the right way: vetted GBN through players he trusted, asked what qualities a real agent should…
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Montana All-State to JUCO to Pro: Tony Fair's Journey
Tony Fair was all-state in Montana... and still went the JUCO route. Edmonds College, Bushnell, a year off, then top scorer in the country at Evergreen State — 25, 6 and 2, top five in steals. Now he's signed in Athens, Greece. Dave watched the jump happen from across the court in the 24/8 league…
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From JUCO to Pro: Tony Fair's Road to Overseas Basketball
Tony Fair just signed his first pro contract in Athens, Greece — the long way. Montana all-state, JUCO at Edmonds, Bushnell, a year off, top scorer in the country at Evergreen State, pro. Dave and Jordan pull the whole blueprint out of him: what everybody gets wrong about JUCO, passing the eye…
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Is Bitcoin Still Even a Thing?
⚠️ Not financial advice — just Dave talking through what he's actually watching. Recorded Friday, Aug 14, 2026 with Bitcoin around $62.9K. Prices have moved since — check the chart before you do anything. Is crypto still a thing? Is Bitcoin still a thing? Is Dave still buying?? He hasn't gone...
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Reclassing Kids for Sports: Smart Move or Ruining Them??
Holding your third grader back so he can dominate... fifth grade hoops? Dave & JDam are NOT buying it. The best 4th grader has never been the best high school player — and now your kid graduates at 20 with a target on his chest. They break down when reclassing actually makes sense (hint: prep...
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Welcome to Brick by Brick, the fusion of sports, music, culture, crypto, and real estate investing—hosted by Dave Jones and Jordan Dam.Whether you're an athlete, an investor, in the sports and entertainment culture, or someone eager to learn how others found success at the highest levels, Brick by Brick is your blueprint for turning ambition into action. Tune in to hear from industry leaders, trendsetters, and rising stars redefining what it means to win.Every brick tells a story—let’s build yours.
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