The Crime Scene Insiders

What does it take to move from attending routine crime scenes to leading the forensic response to some of the most complex cases in the UK? In this episode, Ange and Dee are joined by Bob Gallagher MBE — former Senior Crime Scene Investigator and Crime Scene Manager with Greater Manchester Police. Bob was awarded his MBE for services to forensic and digital investigations, including his role in the forensic response to the Manchester Arena bombing. From the murders committed by Harold Shipman and the extensive exhumations that followed… to the aftermath of the Manchester Arena bombing… Bob has worked on some of the most significant and complex investigations in modern UK policing. He joined GMP as a CSI in 1997 after a career in the Royal Navy, and went on to progress into senior forensic leadership roles — overseeing major murder investigations and making critical decisions under extreme operational pressure. Bob reflects on managing multiple murder scenes in a single night during what he describes as a "weekend from hell," and what it really feels like to make forensic decisions when everything is happening at once. We also hear about his move into Counter Terrorism, leading GMP's forensic and digital investigations unit — and the moment he received the call offering him that role while still at a live crime scene. This is a rare insight into what it truly means to work at the sharp end of major crime — beyond what the public ever sees, and often beyond what is ever spoken about. ⚠️ This episode contains descriptions of graphic crime scenes and violent deaths. Listener discretion is advised. 🎙️ Bob will return for a dedicated episode on the Manchester Arena investigation in a fortnight's time. #TheCrimeSceneInsiders #TrueCrime #TrueCrimeUK #BobGallagher #ForensicScience #HaroldShipman #ManchesterArena #CrimeSceneInvestigation #UnderTheBarrierTape #Podcast #TrueCrimePodcast #GreaterManchesterPoliceSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

What does nearly 50 years at the frontline of forensic science look like — and what does it tell us about one of Britain's most enduring cold cases? In this episode, Ange and Dee are joined by a very special guest and long-time mentor, Brian Rankin — former senior forensic scientist with the Home Office Forensic Science Service, former President of the Chartered Society of Forensic Sciences, and one of the most respected voices in UK forensic science education and quality standards. Brian takes us on a fascinating journey through his career, from the early days as a forensic chemist in the late 1970s, through the transformative impact of DNA, the miscarriages of justice that forced the profession to raise its standards, and the controversial closure of the Forensic Science Service — a decision he believes the UK is still paying the price for today. We also go under the barrier tape on one of the most debated cases in British forensic history: the murder of Jill Dando. Shot on her doorstep in Fulham on 26th April 1999, her case remains unsolved to this day. Brian offers an expert forensic perspective — including the pivotal role of firearms discharge residue evidence and why a conviction was eventually quashed. This episode drops ahead of the 26th anniversary of her death on 26th April, and her case continues to raise important questions about forensic science and what it truly takes to get it right. A wide-ranging, thought-provoking conversation with one of the finest forensic minds in the UK. ⚠️ This episode discusses the details of a murder investigation. Listener discretion is advised. #TheCrimeSceneInsiders #TrueCrime #TrueCrimeUK #JillDando #ForensicScience #ColdCase #UnderTheBarrierTape #BrianRankin #Podcast #TrueCrimePodcast #ForensicScientist #UnsolvedMurderSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

He went from attending crime scenes… to leading the teams behind them. In this episode of The Crime Scene Insiders, we’re joined by Peter Hunter — a former Crime Scene Investigator (CSI) who is now Head of Forensics at Staffordshire Police. We started our CSI journey with Pete back in 2008, and in this episode we explore how a career in forensics really evolves — including what it’s like when you go from attending scenes… to leading the people who do. We cover first scenes, early mistakes, differences between police forces, and the reality of working in crime scene investigation in the UK. Plus, Pete talks us through one of his first complex murder investigations, and how forensic evidence helped piece together what really happened. If you’re interested in true crime, forensics, or what really happens behind the barrier tape — this episode is for you. 🎧 Listen now and don’t forget to subscribe for more real-life CSI stories.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In October 2009, 50 year old Alan Wood was living a quiet life in rural Lincolnshire. A gentle and well-liked man, he worked nights at Sainsbury’s, ran a small gardening business, and enjoyed spending time with friends at his local pub. But after what appeared to be a completely routine evening, Alan returned home — and was never seen alive again. Three days later he was found dead in his living room, the victim of an extremely violent attack that shocked even experienced investigators. What makes this case particularly unusual is the amount of evidence recovered. Police identified a full male DNA profile at the crime scene, as well as a distinctive footwear mark. There is also CCTV footage of someone using Alan’s bank cards, and an E-fit of a potential suspect. Yet almost 17 years later, the murder remains unsolved. In this episode, we take a closer look at the evidence, the investigation, and the unanswered questions that still surround the murder of Alan Wood. Because despite the DNA evidence, CCTV, and multiple investigative leads — the person responsible has never been identified, and someone somewhere knows who it is. To view the evidence in this case, or if you think that you can help visit: https://www.lincs.police.uk/police-forces/lincolnshire-police/areas/campaigns/campaigns/alan-wood-murder/ — This episode covers the unsolved murder of Alan Wood, one of the most brutal and mysterious unsolved cases in Lincolnshire. If you enjoy true crime investigations, cold cases, and crime scene analysis, make sure to subscribe to The Crime Scene Insiders so you never miss an episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this episode of The Crime Scene Insiders, we continue the conversation that began in Episode 14, where Ange shared her experience of being assaulted and feeling let down by the criminal justice system. This time, we’re joined by Angela Whitworth — the friend who was with Ange on the night of the assault and who was also seriously injured, suffering a broken arm that required surgery. Ang talks through what happened from her perspective, the physical and emotional impact of the assault, and what it felt like to navigate the criminal justice process as a victim. She also speaks briefly about her career as an archaeologist and forensic anthropologist, including work in disaster victim identification, humanitarian crises, and as a forensic specialist for the International Committee of the Red Cross — giving important context to how it felt to suddenly find herself on the other side of the system she had trusted. This episode is about listening to victims, understanding the lasting consequences of violence, and recognising how procedural failures can compound trauma long after the event itself. 💛 Thank you for listening and for supporting conversations that centre victims’ voices.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week we’re joined by Justine Shanahan — a CSI with over 25 years’ experience and a part-time lecturer at the University of Lincoln. Justine takes us back to the beginning: a teenager spending her pocket money on true crime books (long before CSI was cool), arranging her own attachments, and attending a post-mortem at just 17. And then comes the moment every new CSI fears most: her first night on call — and she’s deployed to a double murder! In this episode, Justine shares: - What it was really like starting as a CSI in the early 2000s - Major crime investigations early in her career in a “quiet” county - The long-term impact the job can have on mental health - Why she loves teaching and what she thinks CSI will look like in the future - The one case that still haunts her — the unsolved murder of Alan Wood (2009) As always, we take you back under the barrier tape — real stories, realities, and the parts of the job TV never shows. 🎟️ Don't forget you can come to see us at CrimeCon UK! Birmingham (25 April 2026) & London (3–4 Oct 2026). Use code INSIDERS for 10% off your ticket at crimecon.co.uk. #TrueCrimePodcast #TheCrimeSceneInsiders #CSI #Forensics #UKTrueCrime #BehindTheScenes #PodcastUKSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this episode of The Crime Scene Insiders, we focus on the murder of Judith Richardson, a 77-year-old woman living independently in Hexham, Northumberland, whose life was taken in August 2011. Judith was known in her community for her kindness, her love of music, and her regular attendance at organ recitals at Hexham Abbey. She lived a quiet life, rooted in routine and connection. Her murder came to light after the discovery of a discarded handbag — a seemingly ordinary item that led police to Judith’s home. Once she was found, the handbag became central to the investigation, triggering CCTV enquiries and ultimately helping to identify the suspect: Graeme Jarman. Known for his extremely violent past, his identification sparked a nationwide manhunt, turning the investigation into a race against time to apprehend him and prevent any further crimes. We explore how forensic evidence, CCTV, and careful investigative work came together — including Ange’s role as crime scene photographer at the post-mortem — while keeping Judith at the heart of the story. #TheCrimeSceneInsiders #TrueCrime #UKTrueCrime #ForensicScience #CSI #VictimFocusedSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this episode of The Crime Scene Insiders, it’s just the two of us — and we’re sharing a case that hits much closer to home. Angela recounts her experience of being burgled while asleep in her own home — and what followed was a forensic and investigative process that raised serious questions about triage decisions, evidence recovery, and the wider criminal justice system. From being told no CSI would attend, to carrying out our own scene examination and uncovering footwear marks that later linked multiple burglaries, this episode explores what happens when assumptions are made too early — and when vital evidence is dismissed. We discuss the realities of being a victim of crime after years working as investigators, the risks of phone-based crime triage, and why context, intelligence, and evidence-led decisions matter far more than tick-box processes. As always, we go back under the barrier tape to talk honestly about where systems work, where they don’t, and why evidence should always be allowed to speak for itself.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this episode of The Crime Scene Insiders, we’re joined by Charlotte Thorpe, a former Crime Scene Investigator, Crime Scene Manager, and Senior CSI, who spent over 20 years with Kent Police. Charlie has worked on thousands of crime scenes, from volume crime through to serious and complex investigations, and has led teams through some of the most challenging moments of their careers. She shares what it’s really like learning the role from the ground up, being thrown in at the deep end, and building confidence through experience — not textbooks. We discuss early career mistakes, major scenes, the realities of forensic work behind the scenes, and how the job impacts you over time. Charlie also reflects on leadership, mentoring new CSIs, and the importance of looking after yourself and your team — something she continues to do today in her current role as a trainer. An honest, insightful episode for anyone working in forensics, considering the career, or wanting to understand what happens underneath the barrier tape.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Merry Christmas! In this Boxing Day episode, we lift the festive tape and share what it’s really like to work as a CSI over Christmas and New Year. From frozen crime scenes to festive chaos, hear real stories from our days in the field — the good, the bad, and the downright ridiculous: • Christmas Day shifts you can’t dodge • The forbidden “Q word” and its consequences • Burglaries, assaults and alcohol-fuelled incidents • Technical winter nightmares: batteries dying, blood in snow, and footwear marks • Stuck vans, burnt clutches, and blizzards • The emotional impact of festive crimes • Camaraderie, office decorations, microwave party food & keeping spirits high Funny, honest and eye-opening — a look at the human side of forensic work when everyone else is celebrating.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this episode, we sit down with Dr Gary Currie — the CSI, Crime Scene Manager, national trainer, and senior lecturer who has shaped countless careers… including ours. Gary reflects on more than 30 years under the barrier tape: from the early SOCO days to modern CSI work, the culture shifts, the chaos, the humour that keeps you going, and the moments that stay with you long after leaving the job. We talk openly about: 🧪 What CSI work used to look like vs now 🚔 Stories only a real SOCO could tell 🧠 Coping mechanisms, hindsight & mental health 🎓 Teaching and influencing the next generation 🎶 And how Gary created our podcast theme tune It’s honest, funny, and deeply personal — a conversation about the realities of a career that changed lives!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Former Detective Sergeant Joanne Mackel joins us for a deeply personal conversation about her life, her policing career, and the decades-long search for answers surrounding her mum’s disappearance. Joanne’s mother, Ann Law, went missing from Newcastle in 1973. Ann’s body has never been found, and it is long believed that she was murdered and buried by her husband — Joanne’s father, Gilbert Law. Growing up in the shadow of a flawed investigation, Joanne eventually pursued a career in policing — determined to be the officer she wished had been there for her family. In this episode, Joanne shares her experiences as a child during her mum’s disappearance, her journey through serious crime policing as a Detective Sergeant, and the resilience, humour, and honesty she’s carried throughout her life. She also talks about the creation of Dig Up Your Mam, the six-part podcast hosted by award-winning journalist Julie Bindel, which documents her family’s story and her ongoing fight for the truth. This is an emotional, insightful, and at times surprisingly funny conversation — a testament to Joanne’s strength and determination to keep her mum’s memory alive. Content warning: This episode discusses domestic abuse, murder, and long-term trauma. Please listen with care. To listen to the Dig Up Your Mam Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/1SKF5zZTs1WM4hIARMhuIW #TheCrimeSceneInsiders #TrueCrime #AnnLaw #JoanneMackelSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this episode of The Crime Scene Insiders, we sit down with expert investigator and diving specialist Peter Faulding, Founder of Specialist Group International (SGI). Peter shares his remarkable journey — from early careers in emergency response to becoming a leading voice in underwater search and recovery operations. We dive into the technology behind Peter’s work, the hidden challenges of interpreting sonar, and some of his most notable cases. We then turn to the high-profile Nicola Bulley case — discussing the sonar footage released by SGI, the collaboration and challenges between private search teams and police, and the College of Policing review into how the investigation was handled. Peter speaks candidly about his role, the public scrutiny, and what accountability means in forensic search and major investigations.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week’s episode of The Crime Scene Insiders is a deeply personal one. Ange opens up about an assault she and a friend experienced three years ago, and the long, exhausting journey through the criminal justice system that followed. As someone who’s spent years working within the sector, Ange offers a unique perspective on how victims can be let down by a system that’s supposed to protect them. In this longer-than-usual episode, we discuss the flaws in the investigation, the impact of the process, and why it’s so important for victims’ voices to be heard. It’s an important conversation about crime, justice, and the real-world consequences when the system fails.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this episode of The Crime Scene Insiders, we’re joined by James Harris — former City of London Police detective, specialist in major crime investigations, and one of the UK’s most highly trained investigative interview specialists. James shares insights from his policing career, including his approach to interviewing suspects and witnesses, and the realities behind major crime investigations. He also talks about his transition into academia, training the next generation of criminal investigators, and what it really takes to succeed in policing today. If you’re fascinated by investigative interviewing, major crime cases, and the behind-the-scenes world of policing, this is an episode not to miss.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week on The Crime Scene Insiders, we’re joined by Lindsy Slamon as she reflects on her remarkable 20+ year career across roles as a Crime Scene Investigator, manager, and coordinator. From gripping cases—including the high-profile Dale Cregan investigation—to the unforgettable moments that kept her on her toes, Lindsay shares stories that are equal parts fascinating and entertaining. Now transitioning into policing education, she inspires the next generation with her wealth of experience, offering insights, humour, and hard-earned lessons from a career spent behind the tape.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week on The Crime Scene Insiders we’re joined by Anthony Schembri - aka “The Commish.” Anthony’s career is nothing short of extraordinary! From typing DA reports in Brooklyn at just 16, to leading homicide units, becoming a Police Commissioner in New York, overhauling Toronto’s jail system, and running Florida’s juvenile justice system. Along the way he’s also taught, trained and inspired the next generation. He's even the real-life inspiration behind the 90s TV series 'The Commish'. In this episode, Anthony shares his experiences with humour, honesty, and a storyteller’s flair. We laughed so much recording this one that our cheeks actually hurt — and we think you’ll be laughing along too.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this episode of Crime Scene Insiders, we open up about our own struggles with mental health and the impact of working as Crime Scene Investigators (CSI). From shocking crime scenes to the moments that never leave you, we share the side of CSI work that doesn’t make it onto TV. We discuss the cases that turned our stomachs, the emotional weight of dealing with victims and their families, and the coping mechanisms that helped us survive life on the frontline. We also talk honestly about stigma — why asking for help used to feel impossible, and how attitudes towards mental health in policing and forensics are finally starting to change. 👉 If you’ve ever wondered what it’s really like behind the scenes of CSI work — or you’ve faced your own battles with mental health — this episode is for you.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Former CSI Rebecca Jones shares her personal journey with PTSD, while shedding light on the broader mental health impact of crime scene work. ⚠️ Trigger Warning: This episode discusses traumatic topics including child and infant death, and includes personal accounts of PTSD. Listener discretion is advised. In this episode of The Crime Scene Insiders, we speak with Rebecca Jones — former Crime Scene Investigator with 15 years’ frontline experience and now Deputy Head of the School of Life Sciences at Anglia Ruskin University. Rebecca offers a rare and deeply honest insight into the emotional toll of crime scene work. She reflects on the impact of dealing with harrowing cases, the long-term effects of repeated exposure to trauma, and her own journey with post-traumatic stress disorder. This is a powerful conversation about the human side of forensic work — the resilience, the challenges, and the importance of acknowledging mental health in professions that face trauma every day. #TheCrimeSceneInsiders #CrimeSceneInsiders #Podcast #CSI #Forensics #MentalHealthMatters #PTSD #TraumaAwarenessSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this episode of The Crime Scene Insiders, Ange and Dee speak with medicolegal death investigator Julie Wolf, who has handled over 3,000 cases in the U.S. Julie shares the good, the grim, and the unexpected realities of her work. Join us to explore the differences between U.S. and U.K. investigations, what it’s really like to attend scenes, talk to families, and be the one to “speak for the dead.” It’s candid, surprising, and packed with insight from the frontline of death investigation — with plenty of dark humour, compassion, and behind-the-scenes stories along the way. #truecrimepodcast #DeathInvestigation #MedicolegalDeathInvestigator #TheCrimeSceneInsiders #ForensicScience #USvsUKCrime #RealCrimeStories #candidconversations #BehindTheCrime #ForensicsPodcast #unfilteredtruth #truecrimecommunitySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Why are people so fascinated by death, but so afraid to talk about it? In this episode of The Crime Scene Insiders, Ange and Dee get candid about what it’s really like to deal with death as part of the job. From first experiences to the questions they’re always asked, they share the reality behind the scenes. This episode also sets the stage for our next guest: U.S. death investigator Julie Wolf, joining us on August 8th to share her experience from across the Atlantic. ⚠️ Content warning: Includes discussion of death and real scenes involving deceased individuals.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In July 2010, Raoul Moat became the most wanted man in Britain — just days after walking out of prison. What followed was a week of shootings, threats, and a tense armed standoff that gripped the nation. In this Crime Scene Insiders special, Angela and Dionne take you beyond the headlines — and under the barrier tape — into the case they lived through as CSIs inside the Police. They discuss the lead-up to Moat’s release, the devastating attacks on his ex-partner Samantha Stobbard, her boyfriend Christopher Brown, and PC David Rathband, and the unprecedented scale of the police response. This episode isn’t just about the manhunt — it’s about the victims, the warning signs, and what it felt like when police officers became the target. #RaoulMoat #TrueCrimeUK #CrimeSceneInsiders #Manhunt #NorthumbriaPolice #PodcastDrop #BehindTheTape #UnderTheBarrierTape #TrueCrime #SamanthaStobbard #ChristopherBrown #PCDavidRathbandSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

From the crash of a Chinook in the Falklands to the pursuit of organised crime across international borders — Steve Horgan has lived a forensic career like no other. In this episode, Steve takes us on a journey from his time in the RAF, through years as a Crime Scene Investigator, to leading complex investigations with the National Crime Agency. Along the way, he shares gripping stories, naw dropping moments, and the realities of working in high-stakes environments where the smallest piece of evidence can make or break a case. This episode offers a rare and honest look into the world of serious organised crime, international investigations, and the forensic work that connects it all. #TrueCrime #CSI #SteveHorgan #Forensics #CrimeSceneInsiders #NationalCrimeAgency #SeriousOrganisedCrime #ForensicPodcast #InvestigateWithUsSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week, we welcome the extraordinary Julie Bramble—whose remarkable journey through the death industry began at just 15 years old. From embalming to disaster response, and eventually to the gritty world of crime scene investigation, Julie shares gripping stories from the front lines, including her unforgettable first murder case and the chilling details of her final double homicide investigation. Now a forensic lecturer, she brings those real-world insights to the next generation. Don’t miss this intense and fascinating episode. #TrueCrime #CSI #Forensics #CrimeSceneInsiders #PodcastLife #TrueCrimePodcast #InvestigateWithUs #CrimeScene #ForensicExperts #Podcasting #podcastSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this episode, Angela and Dionne had the honour of interviewing Alison Madgin and Carly Barrett, from Samantha's Legacy, a charity in the Northeast of England set up to raise awareness around knife crime, after the brutal murder or Samantha Madgin (Alison’s daughter, Carly’s sister), in 2007. Samantha Madgin was murdered at the age of 18, with a bread knife, by a 15 year old girl. This story is truly heartbreaking however, the family have turned this tragedy into something positive and are taking their lived experience to now help other victims, as well raising awareness and educating young people on knife crime. They tell Samantha’s story in the hope of helping others! Don't miss this gripping episode!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this episode, Angela and Dionne dive into the fundamentals of crime scene processes — what actually constitutes a crime scene, the critical role of health and safety, and how real-life forensic work stacks up against its TV drama counterparts. Drawing on their own frontline experiences and real cases, they explore the challenges and protocols that shape every investigation, revealing the often unseen complexity behind every scene.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In the debut episode of The Crime Scene Insiders, former Crime Scene Investigators and disaster response consultants, Angela Davies and Dionne Watson, pull back the curtain on the world of forensic investigation. With years of real-world forensic experience, they introduce listeners to their new true crime podcast with a unique twist: real cases, told from the perspective of those who’ve actually been on the scene. Angela and Dionne share their own journeys into the world of crime scene investigation and outline their vision for the series: Their mission? To go underneath the barrier tape and explore what really happens behind the scenes. This isn’t just about crime — it’s about the people, the processes, and the emotional weight that lingers long after the scene is cleared. Future episodes will feature a wide range of guests, including victims, victims’ families, and seasoned forensic practitioners — each bringing their own unique insights and lived experiences from behind the tape.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.