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The CTO Podcast

The CTO Podcast explores the worlds of Chief Technical officers as they manage the trials, tribulations, and triumphs of technologists in the C-suite. Hosted by Etienne de Bruin, founder of 7CTOs and author of CTO Excellence in 100 Days: Becoming the leader your company deserves. www.ctopod.com

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    The Software Factory: Why Document-Driven Development Is Reshaping How CTOs Build

    “We’re not doing software development anymore. We’re engineering a factory.”That single line from Matt Ferguson captures a fundamental shift happening in technology leadership. As CTO of Roof Maxx—a nationwide roofing brand with 385 dealerships—Ferguson has spent the past year transforming how his team builds software. The methodology he’s championing isn’t new, but its implications in the age of AI are profound.It’s called Document-Driven Development. And if you’re still measuring your engineering team by lines of code, you may be optimizing for the wrong century.The Cost of Software Is CollapsingFerguson opens with a provocative claim: “The cost of software goes to zero.”He’s quick to acknowledge this is a euphemism—a deliberate exaggeration meant to spark conversation. But the directional truth is harder to dispute. When a team that once needed 100 engineers can now accomplish the same work with 10, or when the same team can produce 10x the output, the economics of software fundamentally change.“If they’re not taking into consideration the risk of their business when the cost of software goes to zero,” Ferguson says of potential vendor partners, “then they’re not gonna be a partner in two years because they’re gonna be out of business.”The data on AI-assisted coding tells a more nuanced story. A recent randomized controlled trial from METR found that experienced developers were actually 19% slower when using AI tools—despite believing they were 20% faster. Meanwhile, studies from GitHub and Microsoft show gains of 20-55%, with the strongest improvements among junior developers tackling well-defined tasks.The takeaway isn’t that AI doesn’t help. It’s that how you use it matters enormously. And that’s where Document-Driven Development enters the picture.What Is Document-Driven Development?At its core, Document-Driven Development flips the traditional software process. Instead of diving into code and documenting later (or never), teams invest heavily upfront in requirements, specifications, and architectural documentation—then use AI to generate code from those artifacts.“Our document-driven development is the concept of writing down what you want to do, what your problem is that you want to solve, in a descriptive enough way that the AI can interpret and plan the work, and through that plan can execute the code,” Ferguson explains.The approach has been championed by Ryan Vice, CEO of Vice Software, through his DocDD.ai methodology. GitHub recently validated the concept with their “Spec-Driven Development” toolkit, and AWS published their “AI-Driven Development Lifecycle” framework—both emphasizing documentation as the critical input to AI-assisted coding.Ferguson’s team has taken this further than most. His developers now spend roughly 90% of their time writing and refining requirements, and only 10% reviewing code.“Documents are your new code,” he says. “Treat them like code, put them in your GitHub repository as code, and iterate on them as your source code.”The Goal: One-Shot Code GenerationThe ambition behind Document-Driven Development is what Ferguson calls “one-shotting” the code—generating production-ready software on the first attempt.“We’re not here to pull the old slot machine and see what we get,” he explains. “Oh, all jacks. That’s wonderful. Oh, we didn’t win that one. Try again. Until AI gives us the right answer. That’s not what we’re after.”This stands in stark contrast to “vibe coding”—the practice of giving AI a rough prompt and iteratively debugging whatever emerges. Ferguson sees this as a recipe for unreproducible results and mounting technical debt.“If you’re not putting time into governance and you’re giving everybody free reign to do whatever they want,” he warns, “you’re gonna get different results. And when you try to build that piece of software six months from now, you might get a different result—which is not acceptable.”The key insight is that the “one shot” doesn’t mean one interaction with AI. It means extensive iteration on the documents—using AI to stress-test requirements, identify edge cases, and refine specifications—before any code is written.“We probably did a lot of interactions with AI, conversations with a highly intelligent, highly well-reasoning system,” Ferguson clarifies. “Just so that we’re getting to that point where we think a one shot is possible.”Systems Thinking: The Intellectual FoundationUnderneath Ferguson’s methodology lies a deeper framework: systems thinking, particularly as articulated by Donella Meadows in her seminal work “Thinking in Systems: A Primer.”Meadows identified 12 leverage points for intervening in complex systems, ranked from least to most powerful. At the bottom are parameters and numbers—the metrics most organizations obsess over. At the top are paradigm shifts—fundamental changes in how we think about a problem.“I tell people, the first thing you should do is read the last chapter about the 12 leverage points,” Ferguson says. “Understand that your leverage point needs to start around the middle—the six or the seven—where we’re changing paradigms, where we’re actually changing how these systems impact each other.”This systems lens explains why Ferguson believes SDLC transformation is more valuable than any individual technology choice.“When I come into a company, I’m constantly thinking about the systems I’m observing,” he says. “That’s where I find I can have the greatest impact. I want to operate to make sure we’re making the right operational decisions and process decisions.”The Factory MetaphorPerhaps Ferguson’s most useful reframe is viewing software development as factory engineering rather than craft production.“We’re creating a software factory. The engine in our factory is AI. You have inputs to the system. You have feedback loops to the inputs. You can either impact the feedback loops and get reoccurring results that are virtuous, or you can just fix the toys at the end of the line and never fix the feedback loop.”In this model, software engineers become process engineers. Their job isn’t primarily to write code—it’s to design, optimize, and govern the system that produces code.“Software engineers are the process engineers of a factory,” Ferguson says. “I understand how this factory works. I understand the inputs. I understand the outputs. I understand how I can impact the inputs. If you’re gonna build a factory, you better have a systems thinking approach.”This has significant implications for hiring and team development. Ferguson is actively retraining his developers to think more like product managers—to write excellent requirements, to understand stakeholder needs, to communicate abstractions clearly.“Writing software’s not the hard part anymore,” he observes. “The value is writing great requirements, great user stories, the use cases, and making sure you’re writing those initial documents correctly.”Implications for SaaS SelectionFerguson applies the same thinking to vendor relationships. His first question to potential partners: “How are you writing software?”“If they’re not using document-driven development and can’t describe that process, they go pretty far down the list,” he says.His reasoning is economic. As AI capabilities accelerate, vendors with undisciplined development processes will struggle to compete against AI-native startups with fraction-sized teams and radically lower cost structures.“A startup is gonna run circles around you,” Ferguson warns established players. “And all it is, is marketing at that point. And it’s a price point.”The implication for CTOs evaluating SaaS purchases: due diligence on a vendor’s development methodology may be as important as feature comparisons. Partners who can’t articulate how they’re adapting to AI-assisted development may face existential pressure in the coming years.Beyond Software: Enterprise-Wide AIFerguson is careful to note that Document-Driven Development is only part of a broader transformation. For CTOs, the mandate extends across the entire organization.“You can’t just be improving the software side of the shop,” he says. “What are you doing about ordering and marketing and all these other processes?”His framework for enterprise AI adoption centers on business process mapping—identifying where humans currently insert themselves to make processes work, then asking whether those decision points could be automated.“Where’s the human inserting themselves to make this process work? Why does that need grease from a human all the time? Do we have the right inputs that an AI could make the same decision?”The metric Ferguson uses to evaluate progress: how many agents is each team member managing?“The measurement of the people in your company needs to be, how many agents am I managing? I shouldn’t be doing work. I should be managing my agents that are doing my work for me.”Getting Started: A Practical PathFor CTOs looking to adopt these approaches, Ferguson offers a straightforward sequence:First, solve the product-requirements interface. Wherever product specifications are authored in your organization, that’s your entry point. Ensure requirements are structured for AI consumption, with clear acceptance criteria and well-defined boundaries.Second, prototype and enforce a process. Document-driven development only works if it’s actually used. Model the approach yourself, build governance around it, and resist the temptation to let individual developers freelance.“Everybody can’t be doing their own thing,” Ferguson emphasizes. “We’re not building ET’s software factory and Matt’s software factory and John’s software factory. We’re building a software factory. Everybody’s following the same process.”Third, extend the thinking beyond engineering. Look for high-value business processes where AI agents could replace human decision-making. Invest in frameworks that allow non-programmers to build and manage their own agents.The Energy QuestionWhen pushed to imagine the far future—a world where AI can generate any software on demand—Ferguson lands on an unexpected constraint: energy.“The answer to the question is the cost of energy,” he says. “If I wrote the same thing in assembly language, it would be far less energy intensive than writing in Java. The same thing is moving up the stack all the way to AI—worst case scenario, I’m burning more electricity to do the same thing.”In a world of abundant, cheap energy—fusion power, orbital data centers—Ferguson sees no reason to maintain software at all. Everything becomes real-time interpretation. But until that day: “The economics will answer that question for us.”The Bottom LineDocument-Driven Development isn’t magic. It won’t transform every team overnight, and the research suggests productivity gains are real but more modest than the hype implies—typically 20-30% improvement, not 10x.But Ferguson’s underlying insight is sound: in an age of AI-assisted coding, the bottleneck shifts from implementation to specification. The teams that invest in better inputs—clearer requirements, stronger governance, reproducible processes—will capture more value from AI than those who simply give developers access to Copilot and hope for the best.“If the cost of software goes to zero, you got no more excuses,” Ferguson says. “Domain-driven design, test-driven development, service-oriented architectures—these are the patterns we should be based on. Anything else has always been cutting corners.”The corners are getting harder to cut.Matt Ferguson is CTO of Roof Maxx, the nation’s leading provider of sustainable roof restoration solutions. Prior to Roof Maxx, he served as Director of Data Engineering, AI, and Machine Learning at Simple Technology Solutions and was CTO of Galley Solutions.For more on Document-Driven Development, visit DocDD.ai or explore Ryan Vice’s YouTube channel.Donella Meadows’ “Thinking in Systems: A Primer” is available wherever books are sold.Key Takeaways:* Document-Driven Development inverts traditional software processes—invest 90% of effort in requirements, 10% in code review* The “one-shot” goal means extensive AI-assisted iteration on documents, not a single prompt-to-production attempt* Systems thinking provides the intellectual framework—focus on leverage points 6-7 (paradigms and feedback loops), not just parameters* Software engineering is becoming process engineering—the factory metaphor reframes what CTOs should optimize* Vendor due diligence should include questions about AI-assisted development methodology* Enterprise-wide AI extends beyond engineering—map business processes to identify automation opportunities This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

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    LIQUID – How CTOs Harness Complexity to Unlock Flow

    In this conversation, Nishant interviews Kathy Keating, Etienne de Bruin, and Scott Graves, co-authors of LIQUID: How CEOs and CTOs Unlock Flow and Momentum in Complex Systems. They discuss how the idea for the book was born, the challenges of co-authoring as three CTOs, and how they shaped the narrative through the fictional characters Alice (CEO) and Theo (CTO). The authors share how their distinct voices and strengths fused together: Scott’s deep knowledge of complex adaptive systems, Kathy’s operational lens, and Etienne’s ability to simplify and communicate concepts. Together, they created a framework that blends philosophy, practice, and story.The conversation highlights the importance of seeing organizations as complex adaptive systems and the risks of companies becoming either “boiling” (chaotic) or “frozen” (rigid). The authors emphasize that true leadership comes from navigating toward liquidity, the state where flow and adaptability are preserved. They reflect on the critical role of CEO-CTO partnership, the necessity of boundaries, and the difficulty of shifting culture once it stagnates. They also explore why the timing of LIQUID is especially relevant today. As technology accelerates, craft alone is not enough. Leaders must become sense-makers and problem-solvers at the systems level.About the BookLIQUID takes readers inside the hidden systems that drive every organization. Using the fictional journey of Alice, a founder-CEO, and Theo, her engineer-turned-CTO, the book shows how teams often slide into boiling chaos or frozen rigidity without realizing it. By illustrating the patterns of complexity through story, the authors make abstract concepts tangible and immediately useful.At its core, LIQUID argues that the most important role of the CTO is not simply delivering technology but stewarding the entire system so that people and processes remain in flow. The book introduces accessible frameworks, practical language, and vivid scenarios that help leaders spot when their organizations are shifting out of balance and how to guide them back to a liquid state.Whether you are a CEO, CTO, or executive navigating rapid change, LIQUID is a blueprint for unlocking resilience, adaptability, and momentum in your company. It bridges systems thinking with real-world leadership and equips you to see and influence the invisible dynamics that make or break technology organizations.Time Stamps00:00: Introduction: Why LIQUID matters now02:00: Behind the authors: creativity, systems, and personal lenses07:00: Discovering each other’s strengths during the writing process13:00: Pivoting the book: from frameworks to storytelling17:00: The origin story: from CTO failures to systemic insights23:00: Defining the role of the CTO in complex systems28:00: Why now: AI, accelerated change, and systems thinking33:00: The 7CTOs connection and levels of complexity40:00: Why Alice and Theo: storytelling as a teaching tool46:00: Subjective perspectives in complex systems52:00: The hidden world of complexity and CTO boundaries59:00: CEOs and CTOs as co-sensemakers1:04:00: Simple versus complex language in leadership communication1:12:00: Culture as the hardest complexity to shift1:20:00: Coaching example: boiling versus frozen organizations1:28:00: The CEO’s challenge: orchestrating boundaries1:31:00: Partnership, empathy, and trust at the executive level1:33:00: If LIQUID had a soundtrackLIQUID: LinkedIn / WebsiteContact Nishant: LinkedInContact Etienne: Website / YouTube / LinkedIn / X / Instagram / The CTO Podcast WebsiteContact Kathy: Website /LinkedInContact Scott: Website / LinkedIn This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

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    Steven Zgaljic, Jahnel Group, CTO: Harnessing AI for Health Insights

    RSVP to the 13th CTO Colloquium on 4/17/25In this episode, Steven Zgaljic, CTO of Jahnel Group, joins host Etienne de Bruin to share a personal story about his daughter’s health challenges. Faced with the need to meticulously track symptoms and daily activities, Steven leveraged his technical expertise to create a custom AI-powered solution using tools like N8N and Superbase. The conversation highlights how AI can transform complex problems into actionable insights, even in personal contexts.Steven discusses the challenges of using traditional methods like pen and paper for symptom tracking, leading him to build an automated workflow integrated with Slack. By applying AI for data validation and pattern recognition, he gains real-time insights into potential triggers and patterns in his daughter's symptoms. Beyond his personal use case, Steven reflects on the broader applications of AI in problem-solving and the necessity of human oversight in AI-driven systems.This conversation explores the intersection of personal challenges, technological innovation, and the potential of AI to improve lives.Timestamps00:00 Introduction and Overview 01:00 Steven Zgaljic's Background and Family Story 03:00 Challenges with Tracking Medical Symptoms for His Daughter 05:00 Using Slack for Family Communication 07:00 Applying AI to Track and Analyze Symptoms 09:00 Exploring N8N, Superbase, and AI for Automation 11:00 Creating Validation Models for AI Accuracy 13:00 Building a Custom AI System for Health Tracking 15:00 AI Insights and Pattern Recognition in Health Data 17:00 Future Plans for AI Health Analysis 18:00 Reflections on AI in Problem SolvingWe have 200+ CTOs in peer groups: Quick Testimonials VideoContact Etienne: Website / YouTube / LinkedIn / X / Instagram / The CTO Podcast WebsiteContact Steven: Website /LinkedInGreat news! The CTO Podcast has been featured on Feedspot's list of Top CTO Podcasts. Huge thanks to our amazing guests and listeners for being part of these conversations. Check out the full list here: Feedspot’s Top CTO Podcasts. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

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    Zayna Rose, Image Strategist & Communications Consultant: Elevating Your Image as a Tech Leader

    In this episode of the CTO Podcast, host Etienne speaks with image strategist Zayna Rose about the importance of personal branding and leadership presence for technology leaders. They discuss how visual identity, color psychology, and intentional self-expression can enhance a leader's credibility and connection with others. Zayna emphasizes the need for tech leaders to be mindful of their appearance and how it impacts their professional image, while also encouraging them to embrace their authentic selves. The conversation highlights practical tips for improving one's image and the significance of digital presence in today's world.Time Stamps00:00 Introduction to the CTO Podcast and Guest Zaina Rose03:06 Understanding Leadership Presence05:29 The Importance of Visual Identity09:55 Casual Power Looks for Tech Leaders12:18 Strategic Wardrobe Levels16:30 Choosing Colors That Work for You21:17 Tailored vs. Standard Looks23:38 Experimenting with Self-Expression30:14 Leveraging Digital Assets for First Impressions34:33 Practical Steps for Improving Personal Branding38:42 Enhancing Stage Presence and Communication42:45 Closing Thoughts and Call to ActionWe have 200+ CTOs in peer groups: Quick Testimonials VideoContact Etienne: Website / YouTube / LinkedIn / X / Instagram / The CTO Podcast WebsiteContact Zayna: Website /LinkedIn This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

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    Lena Skliarova-Mordvinova, Good Face Project CTO and Co-Founder: Revolutionizing Personal Care with AI and Resilience in Challenging Times

    In this episode of the CTO Podcast, host Etienne de Bruin speaks with Lena Skliarova-Mordvinova, CTO and Co-Founder of the Good Face Project. They discuss the origins of the Good Face Project, which aims to educate consumers about the ingredients in personal care products and promote safer alternatives. The conversation delves into the role of generative AI in analyzing ingredient safety, the challenges of navigating the venture capital landscape, and the importance of parenting in the digital age. Lena shares her insights on balancing technology and family life, as well as cultural perspectives on parenting from her experiences in Ukraine. In this conversation, Lena shares her experiences navigating the challenges of leading a tech team in Ukraine during the ongoing war, highlighting the resilience and determination of her team. She discusses the importance of maintaining a sense of normalcy and connection amidst chaos, the innovative tech stack they are using in AI, and the complexities of regulatory environments in the personal care industry. Additionally, she reflects on her passion for space research and the evolution of data mining technologies.Time Stamps00:00 Introduction to the CTO Podcast and Guest03:01 The Good Face Project: Origins and Mission06:01 Understanding Ingredients: The Science Behind Personal Care08:53 Generative AI in Personal Care: Innovations and Challenges12:12 Venture Capital Landscape: Navigating the Hype15:07 Parenting in the Digital Age: Balancing Technology and Family21:04 Reflections on Parenting: Learning and Growing Together26:56 Cultural Perspectives on Parenting: A Global View34:03 The Power of Connection in Uncertain Times39:14 Resilience Amidst Chaos: The Ukrainian Experience45:09 Innovations in AI: Tech Stack and Models53:39 Navigating Regulations in Personal Care and Supplements01:02:22 Passion for Space: A Journey Through ResearchWe have 200+ CTOs in peer groups: Quick Testimonials VideoContact Etienne: Website / YouTube / LinkedIn / X / Instagram / The CTO Podcast WebsiteContact Lena: Website /LinkedIn This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

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    Dr. Aadeel Akhtar, PSYONIC's Visionary: Transforming Lives Through Advanced Bionic Prosthetics and Entrepreneurial Innovation

    In this episode of The CTO Podcast, Dr. Aadeel Akhtar CEO and founder of PSYONIC, discusses the evolution of bionic hands and the advancements in robotics and AI that have made them possible. He shares his personal journey and motivation for creating prosthetics that can change lives, as well as the entrepreneurial challenges faced in bringing this technology to market. The conversation explores the design considerations of bionic hands, the integration of AI, and the future of prosthetics. In this conversation, Aadeel discusses the journey of developing innovative bionic hands through customer discovery, design constraints, and a unique funding approach. He emphasizes the importance of durability and functionality in prosthetics, the role of human users in robotics, and the challenges of navigating crowdfunding and institutional investment. The conversation also touches on the competitive landscape in prosthetic technology and the growth dynamics of his company.Time Stamps00:00 Introduction PSYONIC and bionic hands02:53 The Evolution of Robotics and Human-like Design05:46 The Journey of Creating the Ability Hand09:07 Advancements in Robotics and AI Integration12:00 Personal Story and Motivation Behind PSYONIC15:08 The Future of Bionic Limbs and Technology17:51 Entrepreneurial Challenges in Bionic Technology31:26 Customer Discovery and Design Constraints34:46 Innovative Approaches to Bionic Hands37:52 The Role of Human Users in Robotics40:40 Funding Journey and Shark Tank Experience52:06 Navigating Crowdfunding and Institutional Investment56:15 Competitive Landscape in Prosthetic Technology59:00 Company Structure and Growth DynamicsWe have 200+ CTOs in peer groups: Quick Testimonials VideoContact Etienne: Website / YouTube / LinkedIn / X / Instagram / The CTO Podcast WebsiteContact Dr. Aadeel Akhtar: Website /LinkedIn This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

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    Decoding AI: Expert Panel Insights for CTOs

    In this episode of The CTO Podcast, Etienne engages with AI experts, Ksenia Palke (Director AI: Airspace), Lena Skliarova-Mordvinova (Co-Founder & CTO: Good Face Project) and Sharon Zhang (Co-Founder & CTO: Personal AI) to discuss the current state and future of AI in technology organizations. The conversation covers the different AI stacks being used, the evolution of AI technologies, the societal impact of AI, and the challenges faced by CTOs in implementing AI solutions. The guests share their personal journeys in AI, highlight the importance of human oversight, and provide valuable advice for CTOs looking to leverage AI effectively in their organizations.Time Stamps00:00 - Introduction to AI in Production02:58 - AI Stacks and Tools in Use05:50 - AI’s Evolution and Its Impact11:50 - The Rise of Large Language Models (LLMs)17:59 - Challenges in AI Development24:09 - AI’s Philosophical and Ethical Implications30:13 - Building AI for Business: Practical Advice35:38 - Final Thoughts on AI Development40:20 - The Future of AGI and Its Potential Dangers47:04 - Impact of AI on Language and Communication53:46 - The Role of AI in Education and Child Development58:21 - AI in the Workplace: Communication and Productivity1:04:54 - Human Evolution in the Age of AIWe have 200+ CTOs in peer groups: Quick Testimonials VideoContact Etienne: Website / YouTube / LinkedIn / X / Instagram / The CTO Podcast WebsiteContact Lena: Website /LinkedInContact Ksenia: Website /LinkedInContact Sharon: Website /LinkedIn This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

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    Ryan Kari, CTO of MagCanica: Revolutionizing Motorsports with Torque Sensors and the Art of CTO Leadership

    In this episode of The CTO Podcast, Etienne interviews Ryan Kari, CTO of MagCanica, a company in the torque sensor space. They discuss the role of torque sensors in Formula One racing and other motorsports, as well as their use in hybrid engines. They also touch on the challenges of delegating invention in a hardware company and the importance of communication between software and hardware teams. Ryan also shares his approach to CTOing the organization, which involves exploring new ideas and shining a light on different areas of the business.00:00 Introduction and Sponsor Message00:40 Interview with Ryan Kari, CTO of MagCanica03:06 The Role of Torque Sensors in Motorsports08:42 Sending Torque and Other Data Digitally12:48 Balance of Performance in Racing18:01 Formula One as a Technology Testing Ground29:08 CTOing the Organization and Delegating Invention39:21 Exploring New Ideas and Using AI Tools46:28 Conclusion and Closing RemarksWe have 200+ CTOs in peer groups: Quick Testimonials VideoContact Etienne: Website / YouTube / LinkedIn / X / Instagram / The CTO Podcast WebsiteContact Ryan: Website /LinkedIn This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

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    Kathy Keating, Fractional CTO | Interim CTO | Executive Coach | CTO Levels™: Mastering Growth; Operational Excellence and Leadership Insights

    In this conversation, Etienne interviews Kathy Keating, a fractional CTO and executive coach. They discuss topics such as finding joy in work, dealing with disagreement and rejection, and the importance of operationalizing processes in growing companies. Kathy emphasizes the need for alignment on the problems worth solving and the value of creating a consistent operational cadence. They also touch on the importance of being a systems thinker and the benefits of writing and documenting ideas and processes. Etienne and Kathy discuss the importance of documentation, decision-making, and operationalizing processes in the role of a CTO. They emphasize the need for clear communication, alignment, and trust within an organization. They also highlight the value of incremental changes and continuous improvement in addressing complex problems. The conversation touches on the relevance of CTO Levels in understanding common challenges faced by CTOs at different levels of experience. Overall, the discussion emphasizes the importance of effective leadership and the role of processes in driving growth and success.Time Stamps00:00 - Introduction and Finding Joy in Work06:27 - Dealing with Disagreement and Rejection09:15 - Operationalizing Processes for Growing Companies13:00 - The Importance of Alignment and Systems Thinking19:10 - The Benefits of Writing and Documenting29:56 - Introduction and the Importance of Documentation35:37 - Operationalizing Processes for Business Growth42:51 - The Value of Incremental Changes and Continuous Improvement50:58 - Understanding Common Challenges with CTO Levels53:20 - Effective Leadership: Communication, Alignment, and Decision-MakingWe have 200+ CTOs in peer groups: Quick Testimonials VideoContact Etienne: Website / YouTube / LinkedIn / X / Instagram / The CTO Podcast WebsiteContact Kathy: Website /LinkedIn This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

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    Aliza Carpio, Director of Product Management Data Platform at JLL Technologies: The Code of Collaboration and Navigating Open Source

    Aliza Carpio (Director of Product Management Data Platform at JLL Technologies) discusses with Etienne open source communities, codes of conduct, and the relationship between product management and engineering. She emphasizes the importance of open source as a team sport and the benefits of collaboration and problem-solving in the open source community.Aliza also highlights the value of open source for businesses, including cost savings and access to tried and true solutions. She emphasizes the need for clear communication and inclusive documentation in open source projects, as well as the importance of psychological safety in remote work environments. In this conversation, Aliza and Etienne discuss the importance of communication and collaboration between product managers and engineers as well as emphasizing the need for product managers to understand the 'why' behind their products and for engineers to understand the customer problem.They also highlight the value of experimentation and failure in the product development process. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the potential impact of language models like ChatGPT on communication and trust.Time Stamps00:00 - Introduction and Overview00:40 - Aliza’s Background and Role in Product Management06:47 - The Value of Open Source for Businesses13:31 - Creating Safety and Inclusivity in Open Source Communities25:11 - The Importance of Reflection and Intentional Connection29:38 - Invitation to Join 7CTOs Growth Program31:20 - The Importance of Understanding the 'Why' in Product Management36:08 - The Role of Engineers in Understanding the Customer Problem39:46 - The Value of Experimentation and Failure in Product Development44:32 - Creating a Culture of Experimentation and Discovery51:53 - The Potential Impact of Language Models on Communication and Trust58:55 - Effective Communication and Collaboration in Product DevelopmentWe have 200+ CTOs in peer groups: Quick Testimonials VideoContact Etienne: Website / YouTube / LinkedIn / X / Instagram / The CTO Podcast WebsiteContact Aliza: Website /LinkedIn This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

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    Maria Flynn, Founder and CEO AmbioLogix: Make Opportunity Happen

    In this conversation, Etienne interviews Maria Flynn, the Founder and CEO of AmbioLogix, about her new book Make Opportunity Happen. They discuss the importance of carving your own path as an entrepreneur, the challenges faced by early-stage entrepreneurs, and the methods and templates outlined in the book to help entrepreneurs navigate their journey. They also touch on topics such as team dynamics, perseverance, and the role of mindset in entrepreneurship. Maria, the author of Make Opportunity Happen: How to Build a Culture of Innovation in Your Organization, discusses her experience as the CEO of Orbis Biosciences and shares insights on leadership and building successful teams. She emphasizes the importance of staying the course and not getting caught up in frenzy pivots. Maria also highlights the significance of having a clear vision and setting goals to drive progress. She discusses the role of the CEO and CTO in a tech company and the importance of mutual respect and communication between the two. Maria provides valuable advice for founders and shares her thoughts on accountability and appreciation in a team.Time Stamps00:00 - Introduction and Background03:06 - Carving Your Own Path as an Entrepreneur09:40 - Methods and Templates for Success13:59 - The Importance of Team Dynamics, Perseverance, and Mindset37:31 - The Role of the CEO and CTO38:25 - Knowing Where You Want to Go46:29 - The People and Business Aspect of the CTO Role47:56 - The Importance of Different Skill Sets and Personalities53:47 - Accountability and Appreciation in Building a Strong TeamWe have 200+ CTOs in peer groups: Quick Testimonials VideoContact Etienne: Website / YouTube / LinkedIn / X / Instagram / The CTO Podcast WebsiteContact Maria: Website /LinkedInMaria's Book: Make Opportunity Happen: How to Build a Culture of Innovation in Your Organization This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

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    Dave Adsit, VP of Engineering SamCart: Coding Roots to C-Suite Insights

    In this conversation, Etienne and Dave reminisce about their early experiences with computers and programming. They discuss the different computer models they had, the challenges of typing in code from magazines, and the evolution of technology. They then shift the conversation to their roles as VP of Engineering and CTO, and the differences between the two positions. They talk about the importance of product management and design in software development, and the value of delivering in small batches. They also discuss the concept of lean software development and the economic mindset behind it. The conversation explores the conundrum of developers being resistant to working on new features and instead over-engineering existing ones. The fear of the unknown and the comfort of familiarity play a role in this resistance. The conversation also delves into the importance of prototyping and experimentation in the development process. The concept of failure and its relationship to learning and psychological safety is discussed. The impact of different communication mediums, such as texting and video calls, on team culture and effectiveness is explored. The conversation concludes with a discussion on measuring team productivity and effectiveness through inputs, outputs, outcomes, and impact.Time Stamps00:00 - Reminiscing about Early Computers and Programming13:16 - The Differences Between VP of Engineering and CTO24:23 - Delivering in Small Batches for Faster Feedback26:47 - Embracing the Economic Mindset in Lean Software Development 35:50 - Developers' Resistance to New Features38:10 - Prototyping and Experimentation44:33 - Failure and Learning51:20 - Impact of Communication Mediums01:04:53 - Measuring Team Productivity and EffectivenessThe CTO Podcast is honored to be featured among Feedspot's top 45 C-suite podcasts.We have 200+ CTOs in peer groups: Quick Testimonials VideoContact Etienne: Website / YouTube / LinkedIn / X / Instagram / The CTO Podcast WebsiteContact Dave: LinkedIn / Website This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

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    Ksenia Palke, Head of AI at Airspace: AI in Time-Critical Shipments

    Ksenia Palke, Director of AI at Airspace, discusses the use of AI in time-critical shipments. Airspace builds tech for fast automated solutions in shipping critical items such as organs, medical devices, and industrial parts. The goal is to remove unnecessary manual steps and optimize the delivery process. Ksenia explains how AI is used to predict delivery times, optimize routes, and automate interactions with drivers and customers. She also discusses the use of large language models (LLMs) in their AI initiatives and the importance of prompt engineering and ragging. Ksenia emphasizes the need for context-specific training and the ongoing comparison of different LLMs. In this conversation, Etienne and Ksenia discuss the implementation of language models (LLMs) in business and the importance of being specific and intentional in their use. They emphasize the need for a clear strategy and goals when using LLMs, rather than chasing the latest and greatest technology. They also highlight the importance of having a human in the loop to validate and manage LLM outputs. The conversation explores the limitations of LLMs and the potential for future advancements. Overall, the conversation provides practical advice for founders and CTOs on how to approach AI projects and make the most of LLMs.Time Stamps00:00 Introduction and Overview02:12 Automation and Optimization in Time-Critical Shipments09:22 Using LLMs to Automate Interactions14:05 The Importance of Prompt Engineering and Ragging in LLM Training24:14 Bottlenecks and Challenges in LLM Development29:29 Being Specific and Intentional with LLMs35:04 The Importance of Performance over Novelty39:18 The Role of Human Validation44:29 Avoiding the Hype and Focusing on Practical Applications53:26 Understanding the Limitations of LLMs57:47 Embracing Advancements in LLM TechnologyWe have 200+ CTOs in peer groups: Quick Testimonials VideoContact Etienne: Website / YouTube / LinkedIn / X / Instagram / The CTO Podcast WebsiteContact Ksenia: LinkedIn / Website This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

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    Devastate the Competition via Robust Design with Adam Bahret

    Etienne sits down with Adam Bahret, whose unique journey has fueled his passion for creating robust product designs that can outperform the competition. The conversation reveals how prioritizing reliability can significantly impact a product's success and why reliability often trumps marketing.Tune is as Adam introduces his innovative R-Three blueprint which balances cost, features, and risk to ensure successful product launches without regrets. He also discusses the often overlooked issue of technical debt in software development, emphasizing the importance of early risk assessment.With his insights being drawn from his book Devastate the Competition: How to Take Market Share through Robust Design, he aims to connect product development with achieving business objectives, and he and Etienne engage in insightful dialogue about the challenges and solutions in reliability engineering. They discuss Adam's experiences living in Denmark and the cultural differences that shaped his approach to learning and working in engineering. Their conversation also touches on the differences between reliability and quality, illustrating how these concepts play important roles in the design and manufacturing processes.Adam also highlights the importance of using proper methods for early risk assessment, ensuring a more dependable final product. He shares his creative approach to making reliability concepts accessible to everyone through comic book guides, aimed at simplifying complex tools and techniques.Listen in to gain valuable insights into how robust product design can lead to dominating the market, the significance of balancing multiple factors in product development, and practical tips for incorporating reliability engineering principles across various industries!Time Stamps:[1:29] - Adam, born in New York, now lives in Boston after working in Denmark for two years.[3:54] - Adam shares how he pretended not to understand Danish so that a homeless person switched to English for spare change.[5:00] - Learn where the title of Devastate the Competition comes from.[6:17] - Adam explains the concept of reliability engineering.[8:48] - Quality ensures consistency in manufacturing, while reliability creates robust designs for durable, useful technology.[10:00] - Adam touches upon why he wrote Reliability Culture and why he wrote Devastate the Competition.[13:07] - Adam aims to prevent regrets in product development by establishing processes for wise, efficient decisions.[14:46] - Adam explains his R-Three blueprint.[16:50] - Adam emphasizes the importance of product ratio factors in decision-making.[18:24] - Adam suggests prioritizing robust design for proactive decision-making and smoother processes.[21:29] - It’s important to align individual goals with overall business objectives for success.[24:00] - Etienne discusses how individuals in different roles prioritize their incentives, possibly leading to deviations from the intended path.[25:10] - Adam advocates for measuring "time to reliability" for better decision-making.[28:54] - Adam explains the sawtooth pattern in software reliability curves.[31:00] - Reduce software bugs by identifying and eliminating infrequently used code through script scanning.[32:02] - Hear how Adam simplifies reliability concepts via comic books, aiming to make fundamental tools more accessible.[35:20] - Adam explains why he finds the term HALT (Highly Accelerated Life Test) misleading.[37:26] - Adam compares reliability tools to car controls, advocating for their accessibility and understanding.[39:13] - Etienne discusses technical debt, emphasizing the trade-offs made in software development for faster time to market.[41:21] - Where can listeners reach Adam?We have 200+ CTOs in peer groups: Quick Testimonials VideoContact Etienne: Website / YouTube / LinkedIn / X / Instagram / The CTO Podcast WebsiteContact Adam: Website / Instagram / LinkedInAdam's Books: Devastate the Competition / How Reliable Is Your Product? / Reliability CultureAdam’s Podcast This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

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    Going First: Leading with Purpose in an Overthinking World with Nell Derick Debevoise

    Etienne is joined in this episode by Nell Derick Debevoise, the founder of Inspiring Capital which helps leaders grow their business with purpose and build impactful legacies. Nell has advised leaders at American Express, Cisco, Google and more, and she focuses on expanding impact, growing businesses and building legacies that are inclusive, anti-racist and sustainable. Etienne and Nell discuss East Coast vs. West Coast cultures, with Nell reflecting on her experiences in New England and California, and how these cultural differences shape leadership styles and priorities. They also discuss the importance of purposeful leadership to overcoming the paralysis of overthinking, with Nell offering practical advice drawn from her book, Going First: Finding the Courage to Lead Purposefully and Inspire Action.Etienne and Nell also candidly dive into the challenges and rewards of purpose-driven work, sharing personal anecdotes and reflections on their journeys. From navigating the complexities of international service work to empowering local communities, they discuss strategies for maximizing impact within one's sphere of influence.Listen in to gain valuable insights into aligning your personal values with your professional endeavors, overcoming self-doubt and insecurity, and fostering collaboration within purpose-driven organizations. Whether you're a seasoned leader seeking to reignite your passion or you’re a newcomer navigating the intersection of purpose and profit, this episode offers actionable tips and insight for making a meaningful impact in today's world!Time Stamps:[1:52] - Etienne discusses having walked the East Coast before settling in California.[4:09] - Nell, influenced by New England, values a blend of progressive and traditional ideals, particularly regarding nature.[5:49] - Etienne misses seasons and makes note of his children's unfamiliarity with weather changes.[8:03] - Nell reflects on what stood out to her the most from her last dinner meeting with Etienne.[11:19] - Nell highlights the superficiality of American identity, contrasting it with the authenticity observed in European culture.[13:16] - Hear how Nell's international work in human development emphasized holistic, purpose-driven development.[15:43] - The essence of "teaching the right people" is leading purposefully and inspiring action through everyday courage.[17:12] - What motivated Nell to write her book?[20:22] - Etienne contemplates bridging the gap between massive enterprises and individual humanity, especially in education.[22:34] - Nell addresses the challenge of maintaining purpose amid complexity, urging acknowledgment and focused persistence.[24:25] - Nell advocates for Seth Godin's idea of "niching up," making a localized impact within one's sphere of influence.[27:06] - Etienne reflects on the desire to address grand challenges all at once, advocating for steady but meaningful impact.[28:26] - Aligning actions with purpose, whether asking for donations or engaging directly with communities, is crucial.[31:10] - Etienne expresses frustration with inaction despite ample support and opportunity to make a difference.[33:05] - Hear Etienne share an inspiring story of community transformation sparked by a small investment as he laments his own inaction.[35:15] - Nell discusses how insecurity can hinder bold action and impact, emphasizing the need to be confident in one's goals.[38:42] - Nell suggests framing the past five years positively, emphasizing meaningful change and exciting progress.[39:36] - Stephen Covey's concept differentiates between our concerns and what we can influence, highlighting impactful actions.[42:25] - Recognizing the scope of influence involves not just identifying issues but also effective solution delivery.[44:22] - Nell plans to leverage her upcoming trip to San Diego for revenue-generating opportunities.[47:18] - Learn about a key tool that Nell uses to assess individuals' energy for team or project contributions which enhances collaboration.We have 200+ CTOs in peer groups: Quick Testimonials VideoContact Etienne: Website / YouTube / LinkedIn / X / Instagram / The CTO Podcast WebsiteContact Nell: LinkedIn / PurposeFusedNell’s Book This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

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    Joel Beasley, Modern CTO: Mastering the Art of Podcasting

    Etienne is so happy to be sitting down with his good friend Joel Beasley for this episode. Joel is the mastermind behind the Modern CTO Podcast and founder of Pro Series Media, and he is here for an enlightening conversation on the ins and outs of podcasting. With years of experience under his belt, Joel shares invaluable insights on starting, cultivating, managing, and scaling a successful podcast.From the importance of in-person interviews to the art of crafting compelling questions, Joel breaks down the key elements that make a podcast stand out, emphasizing the significance of building genuine connections with guests and providing valuable content to listeners and stressing that quality engagement is more important than quantity.Joel's approach to podcasting is refreshingly authentic, focusing on human relationships and meaningful conversations rather than gimmicks or marketing tactics. He shares his journey from focusing solely on technical leaders to exploring groundbreaking ideas shaping humanity, inspired by visionaries like Jordan Peterson.Listen as Joel offers practical advice for aspiring podcasters, from niche selection and guest outreach to effective interviewing techniques. He emphasizes the value of preparation, genuine curiosity, and caring for both guests and audience members.Joel also unveils his plans for the upcoming Joel Beasley Show, where he aims to dive deeper into transformative ideas and continue fostering meaningful connections. With Joel's expertise and passion for podcasting, listeners are in for a treat as they embark on their own podcasting journey or simply tune in to enjoy engaging conversations with fascinating individuals!Time Stamps:[2:31] - Joel feels that in-person interactions foster deeper connections compared to remote ones, enhancing relationships and responsiveness.[4:39] - Exploring diverse perspectives and groundbreaking ideas drives Joel's new show, inspired by transformative encounters.[7:35] - Joel argues that human connections hinge on shared values and content quality, reflected in his authentic podcast approach.[10:12] - Prioritize genuine connections over high conversion rates; quality relationships yield long-term podcast success.[13:18] - Invites based on episode performance prioritize engaging guests.[15:59] - Etienne and Joel met seven years ago when Etienne launched 7CTOs.[17:08] - Joel reveals that he plans to offer free, high-quality podcast creation content to build trust with businesses.[19:27] - Joel outlines a B2B podcast course focusing on niche identification and audience value delivery.[22:23] - Etienne admires marketing instincts, recognizing simplicity and potential in targeting conference audiences.[23:43] - Joel delegated conference research after obtaining options from a hired research analyst.[26:34] - Joel shares how he discovered a passion for sales, emphasizing value and dedication in podcast production.[29:04] - Joel emphasizes the core of podcasting: serving listeners by aligning audience needs with valuable content.[33:17] - Joel aims to assist creators transitioning to professional podcasting, stressing value, guest validation, and collaboration.[36:55] - Joel finds coaching the host to be rewarding due to their innate curiosity and care, key success traits.[38:31] - Consider turning coaching expertise into a podcast, offering recorded sessions to address common challenges.[40:05] - Joel advocates for hiring a local videographer for professional setup, maximizing quality without breaking the bank.[43:12] - Joel prioritizes audience value in conversations, subtly promoting podcast services and achieving 10% client conversion.[45:02] - Joel reflects on having sent 250 emails nightly, refining the process, highlighting problem-solving abilities.[47:47] - Joel bases his prices on team size, offering packages or individual options.[48:31] - Joel is planning to launch The Joel Beasley Show in early fall.We have 200+ CTOs in peer groups: Quick Testimonials VideoContact Etienne: Website / YouTube / LinkedIn / X / Instagram / The CTO Podcast WebsiteContact Joel: LinkedIn / Modern CTO Podcast / ProSeries Media This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

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    Alex Balazs, CTO Intuit: Generative AI, Vulnerability and Leadership

    Etienne sits down this episode with Alex Balazs, the CTO of Intuit, for an eye-opening discussion on vulnerability, leadership, and the cutting-edge realm of generative AI. Alex shares insights from his journey, from TurboTax's chief architect to leading technology at Intuit. He delves into the pivotal role vulnerability plays in effective leadership, emphasizing the importance of authenticity and humanity in fostering collaboration and innovation.Alex sheds light on the transformative potential of generative AI and its applications in revolutionizing customer experiences. From enhancing email marketing with MailChimp to reimagining tax preparation with TurboTax, Alex reveals how Intuit is leveraging AI to deliver tangible benefits to users.Alex and Etienne also navigate the challenges of staying ahead in a rapidly evolving technological landscape. Alex emphasizes the need for CTOs to dream big, experiment boldly, and prioritize customer impact, and he underscores the power of community and collaboration in driving positive change, urging technologists to harness their skills for the greater good.Through anecdotes and insights, Alex inspires listeners to embrace vulnerability, seize opportunities, and leverage technology for transformative impact. Join Etienne and Alex in this enlightening conversation about the intersections of leadership, technology, and human connection.Time Stamps:[1:09] - Alex discusses how he progressed from Turbotax's chief architect to Intuit's chief technology officer.[3:23] - Vulnerability, often overlooked in leadership, fosters connection and strength, a crucial lesson in leadership.[5:09] - Alex argues that shifting from having answers to asking questions fosters growth and leadership.[8:23] - Being a CTO can feel lonely, but community support humanizes and strengthens leadership.[10:29] - Etienne discusses how the accessibility and humility of influential leaders contrast with those of smaller companies.[12:00] - Mastering scale is crucial for large company CTOs, balancing priorities and fostering efficiency.[15:15] - The rapid progress of generative AI and cutting-edge hardware designs signal groundbreaking technological advancements.[18:32] - Alex points out how the rapid evolution of technology has made home automation mainstream.[19:45] - Alex shares a story of how during a loud event like the Super Bowl halftime show, noise-canceling earbuds offered a safer, clearer experience.[22:03] - Etienne argues that navigating disruptions and commitments as a CTO demands staying informed and strategic.[24:21] - According to Alex, to truly shake things up with tech, it's not about being just slightly better but rather ten times superior.[26:26] - Intuit prioritizes customer impact, aiming for tenfold improvement with AI innovations.[29:19] - Alex discusses how generative AI shifts tech to prioritizing accuracy over human fallibility, which requires education.[31:48] - Tech innovation now surpasses predictions; building adaptable organizations is key to embracing disruption.[34:08] - Alex points out that we should be embracing both practical and groundbreaking cases for innovation.[36:49] - Alex closes by encouraging community support, networking, and dreaming big to leverage technology for positive change.We have 200+ CTOs in peer groups: Quick Testimonials VideoContact Etienne: Website / YouTube / LinkedIn / X / Instagram / The CTO Podcast WebsiteContact Alex: LinkedInSchedule a meeting with Etienne on Calendly This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

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    Exploring RF Communication, Encryption, and AI with Dell Kronewitter

    Join Etienne on the latest episode of the CTO Podcast as he dives into the world of RF communication, encryption, and AI with Dell Kronewitter, Director of Technology at Fuze Integration!Dell provides insights into encryption concepts like red and black sides and how they relate to secure communication. He and Etienne explore the fascinating world of satellite communications and the role of AI in a hybrid, highly regulated environment. From discussing the challenges of maintaining communication integrity amidst atmospheric interference to the intricacies of managing a hybrid engineering team, Dell shares valuable perspectives on navigating complex technological landscapes. Also discover how Fuze Integration leverages innovative solutions like the Virtual Network Testbed and the Tannen's Tactile Airborne Network Simulator to drive advancements in communication technology.With insights into the evolving role of AI and machine learning in optimizing network performance, this episode offers a captivating glimpse into the future of communication technology. Tune in for an engaging discussion that blends technical expertise with real-world insights, providing a comprehensive overview of the cutting-edge developments shaping the world of RF communication and beyond!Time Stamps:[2:05] - Using a whiteboard as a crutch can complicate explanations and lose audience focus.[4:38] - At Fuze, Dell strengthens engineering processes, focusing on user-centric design.[5:54] - Dell explains how, in secure communication, Alice and Bob encrypt messages to keep Eve from intercepting.[8:25] - Dell’s work blends commercial and military tech, ensuring secure communication with patented innovations.[11:44] - The Encryptor, certified by the NSA, requires careful key handling for secure communication.[14:26] - Dell reveals that Satcom connections are often commercial; military radios include encryption for secure communication.[16:41] - Dell monitors for jamming and stores cross-layer information for analysis.[19:17] - The Blue Angels' close formations are achieved manually, showcasing remarkable piloting skills and coordination.[20:22] - Does Dell’s technology expand to satellites?[22:46] - Satellites use laser communication for cross-linking, benefiting from space's optimal conditions.[25:19] - Dell reveals how, after a prototype satellite launch, he left the company; Orbcomm launched eight satellites, landing boosters successfully.[28:07] - Dell manages standard configuration processes, integrating new tech and gathering customer input for product enhancement.[29:53] - Dell touches upon how integrating diverse teams presents challenges in product development.[31:23] - Dell employs Virtual Network Testbed for government projects, simulating RF channels for software refinement.[34:03] - Achieving fidelity in flight simulations requires control of multiple variables and data acquisition.[37:52] - Dell reflects on how navigating challenges in team dynamics and processes reveals evolving perspectives and improvements.[39:44] - Dell optimizes networks with machine learning, facing challenges in high-dimensional problems.We have 200+ CTOs in peer groups: Quick Testimonials VideoContact Etienne: Website / YouTube / LinkedIn / X / Instagram / The CTO Podcast WebsiteContact Dell: LinkedInSchedule a meeting with Etienne on Calendly This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

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    Crafting Code and Conquering Fear: A Journey Through Middle-Earth and Conway's Law

    Join Etienne in this episode as he interviews Allan Stewart, the lead engineer at SynkedUP, a groundbreaking startup focused on bridging the technological gaps in today’s digital world. Together, they unravel the threads of storytelling in The Lord of the Rings, explore the implications of Conway’s Law on organizational design and software development, and discuss coding challenges that leave even seasoned developers hesitant.Allan touches upon his lifelong journey with Tolkien's work, showcasing how the tales have influenced his personal and professional life, and his unique perspective illuminates the profound impact of literature on technological creativity and problem-solving. The conversation also dissects Conway's Law and its profound influence on the architecture of software systems, mirroring the communication patterns within organizations.Etienne and Allan also delve into a common dilemma in the tech world: the fear of modifying legacy code. Allan recounts tales from the trenches, revealing strategies to address the untouchable parts of a codebase that developers dread to alter. Their discussion serves as a critical reminder of the importance of fostering a culture that encourages innovation, transparency, and resilience in the face of technological challenges.Allan’s insights offer a fresh perspective on the relationship between team dynamics and code quality, shedding light on how team structure can shape the final product, for better or worse. Whether you're a fan of Middle Earth, an aspiring engineer, and/or a seasoned CTO, this episode promises a treasure trove of wisdom and intriguing discussions that run the gamut of software development and beyond.Time Stamps:[1:43] - Allan discusses his love for The Lord of the Rings.[3:45] - Allan explores Middle-earth's history through Christopher Tolkien's posthumous works, finding it rewarding.[6:34] - Allan's reading habits are sporadic, recently focusing on the fifth volume of The History of Middle Earth.[8:45] - Conway's Law suggests team dynamics shape software, stressing the importance of communication in development.[10:58] - Software mirrors its development context, with team practices and incentives affecting the codebase's quality.[12:22] - Etienne argues that hasty incentives can lead to poor coding practices and duplicated work to meet deadlines.[14:07] - Financial motives of offshore teams often overlook comprehensive codebase care, highlighting the importance of aligning team incentives with quality goals.[16:58] - Allan values trust in software audits and reiterates the importance of aligning developer incentives with principal goals.[18:44] - Allan highlights how attitudes towards automated testing mirror Conway's Law, impacting developer confidence and code quality.[20:50] - Allan critiques the dynamics between QA and developers, leading to defensive coding and diminished collaboration.[24:39] - Understanding software complexity is challenging; relying on trusted opinions and monitoring development are important.[27:12] - Etienne observes prolonged development times, suggesting collaborative code reading sessions for improved quality.[29:14] - Allan emphasizes collaboration through pair and mob programming, involving all teams for active participation.[31:42] - Hear why Allan prioritizes principles such as collaboration and automated testing over vague "best practices."[33:46] - In large developer meetings, Allan points out, some may not speak up due to overcrowding, hindering valuable input.[35:50] - Effective collaboration doesn't require everyone to do the same tasks simultaneously but involves coordination and acknowledgment of specialties.[39:04] - Addressing fear and context changes requires transparency, incentives, and adaptable code structures.[42:02] - Etienne shares how his hackathon competition helped alleviate his developers’ fears around touching code.We have 200+ CTOs in peer groups: Quick Testimonials VideoContact Etienne: Website / YouTube / LinkedIn / X / Instagram / The CTO Podcast WebsiteContact Allan: LinkedInSchedule a meeting with Etienne on CalendlySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

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    From Code to Cattle: Parallels Between Technology and Farming with Jennifer Cwagenberg

    Etienne is very excited to welcome Jennifer Cwagenberg, Head of Engineering at Protopia AI, to the podcast for an engaging discussion spanning technology, farming, and even the intersection of the two. Jennifer shares insights into her unique lifestyle as a technologist and baroness of Texas, where she navigates the balance between rural tranquility and technological challenges.Their conversation delves into Jennifer's engineering journey, from her telecom beginnings to her diverse roles at companies like Match.com and Toyota, ultimately leading to her current role at Protopia AI. Jennifer provides a fascinating glimpse into Protopia's innovative approach to data protection for AI models, showcasing how their technology enables businesses to retain ownership of their data while still leveraging AI capabilities.Beyond technology, Jennifer sheds light on the parallels between farming practices and engineering principles, highlighting the importance of efficiency, adaptability, and continuous improvement in both areas. Drawing parallels between optimizing soil health and streamlining code, Jennifer emphasizes the value of making the right practices easy for engineers, thus fostering a culture of excellence and innovation.The conversation also touches on team dynamics, tool preferences, and the importance of enforcing coding standards to ensure maintainability and scalability of projects. Jennifer's dedication to creating unified developer experiences truly highlights her commitment to streamlining processes and maximizing productivity within her team.Join Etienne and Jennifer as they explore the fascinating intersection of technology, agriculture, and engineering philosophy, offering valuable insights for both seasoned professionals and aspiring technologists alike.Time Stamps:[2:07] - Jennifer points out how living in the countryside brings peace but lacks local community and good internet.[3:35] - Jennifer shares that she transitioned from telecom to startups, experiencing acquisitions and now focuses on AI data protection.[6:32] - Jennifer highlights the power and satisfaction of technology's immediate impact on society and individuals.[9:10] - Jennifer thrives on challenges across various domains, including farming, showcasing adaptability and passion for problem-solving in engineering.[12:48] - For her farm, adhering to no-till practices is crucial due to regulatory requirements and land conditions.[13:47] - How does Jennifer put her engineering prowess to good use on her farm?[16:19] - Both technology and farming require balancing effort - investing time wisely for impactful, achievable solutions.[18:57] - As VP of Engineering, Jennifer manages teams, contributes individually, and fills business needs.[20:23] - Protopia AI aims to unify developer experiences, leveraging VSCode for powerful collaboration and shared settings.[22:33] - Reading the book Clean Code impacted Jennifer profoundly, emphasizing best practices for writing maintainable, readable code.[25:30] - Jennifer points out that, as an engineer, managing various tasks from coding to security is challenging, but setting standards helps.[28:05] - Jennifer explains that enforcing pre-commit practices improves feedback speed, though it's not universal; CI/CD rules ensure code quality.Resources and Links Mentioned:Robert C. Martin - Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software CraftmanshipWe have 200+ CTOs in peer groups: Quick Testimonials VideoContact Etienne: Website / YouTube / LinkedIn / X / Instagram / The CTO Podcast WebsiteContact Jennifer: LinkedIn / Protopia AI WebsiteSchedule a meeting with Etienne on CalendlySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

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    The Realities of Fundraising with Sean Nam

    Joining Etienne this week on the podcast is Sean Nam, the CTO of Ivy Energy. Etienne engages in a multifaceted conversation with Sean, and they touch upon the intricacies of supporting founders during fundraising to reflections on technology giants like Apple and Uber.Sean provides insights into IV Energy's mission to revolutionize shared energy usage through solar platforms, shedding light on the challenges and innovations in the field, and as the conversation delves deeper, Sean and Etienne explore the dynamics of team management, fundraising endeavors, and the evolving role of a CTO. Sean's reflections on American democracy, viewed through the lens of a South African and a Korean immigrant, also add a thought-provoking layer to the discussion.Sean also offers a candid exploration of the challenges of participating in a democracy amidst distractions and complexities, resonating with both disappointment and a call for collective action. Tune in for a compelling dialogue that blends technical expertise with societal insights, offering a glimpse into the complexities of modern leadership and civic engagement.Time Stamps:[1:25] - What are Sean’s thoughts on Apple Vision Pro?[4:35] - Sean describes Ivy Energy’s mission.[7:30] - Learn about Sean’s team dynamics.[9:21] - Sean finds David Farley's insights refreshing, bridging software engineering with other technical disciplines.[10:42] - Learn how Sean's journey to leadership at Ivy Energy stemmed from seizing unexpected opportunities and challenges.[12:16] - Sean reflects on some of the lessons that he has been learning.[13:24] - Reflecting on venture capital dynamics through media like "Super Pumped" informs Sean's approach.[16:38] - Sean argues that effective collaboration between visionaries and their teams, like Steve Jobs with engineers, shapes success.[18:04] - Sean touches upon the significance of risk assessment.[20:01] - Balancing sales and marketing with product development ensures delivering on the promised vision.[22:51] - Transitioning from software engineer to CTO, Sean has honed communication skills and adapted to delayed feedback in leadership.[24:49] - Sean explains how giving feedback in a PR setting versus individually has a significant impact on individuals.[26:01] - Sean recently saw a news story involving a lack of attention leading to bribery in West Virginia.[28:30] - Etienne discusses how participating in democracy is challenging due to complexities; simpler systems are desired for all.[30:02] - The flaw in the US voting system lies in its historical complexity and lack of modernization.[33:10] - Sean asserts that politics becoming a show has led to exhaustion and disengagement and that systemic change requires collective effort.[36:02] - Sean feels that restricting information and education perpetuates autocracy.Resources and Links Mentioned:David Farley - Modern Software Engineering: Doing What Works to Build Better Software FasterWe have 200+ CTOs in peer groups: Quick Testimonials VideoContact Etienne: Website / YouTube / LinkedIn / X / Instagram / The CTO Podcast WebsiteContact Sean: LinkedInSchedule a meeting with Etienne on CalendlySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

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    Navigating the Rollercoaster: From Rapid Growth to Unwinding with Tracie Hlavka

    Etienne is thrilled to sit down with Tracie Hlavka, former CTO of Flyhomes, to discuss the tumultuous journey of rapid scale and the poignant process of winding down a company. Tracie reflects on her experience navigating the job market amidst layoffs and shifting funding landscapes, shedding light on the challenges of finding the right fit in a tough market.Tracie and Etienne also delve into the complexities of managing a tech team during rapid growth and downsizing, highlighting the delicate balance between building scalable systems and adapting to changing circumstances. Tracie shares insights into the intricacies of hiring and team organization, emphasizing the importance of aligning technology with business objectives and fostering a culture of resilience.The conversation also touches on the emotional toll of layoffs and the significance of empathetic leadership in times of transition. As Tracie explores her journey of self-discovery and career exploration, she also reflects on the lessons learned from the book Designing Your Life and the value of embracing possibility amidst uncertainty. Join Etienne and Tracie as they navigate the highs and lows of the tech industry, offering valuable insights for CTOs and aspiring leaders alike.Time Stamps:[1:59] - Tracie finds the current market tough, especially for series B/C startups and consumer-facing ventures.[3:44] - Tracie sees a challenging cycle in rapid scaling, grappling with evolving processes and clinging to past achievements.[6:21] - Hear how Tracie finds rapid scaling exhilarating, despite its challenges, embracing the process of hiring and growth.[8:21] - Tracie relishes the challenge of building systems and teams to support rapid company growth.[10:59] - For each hire, Tracie conducts around ten interviews, with approximately 100 applicants for consideration.[13:30] - Tracie argues that hiring can initially be inefficient, requiring time for new hires to integrate and become productive.[16:57] - Tracie advocates for yearly adjustments in team structure to match business needs, balancing deep expertise with innovation.[20:02] - Managing code boundaries and team dynamics becomes challenging when splitting teams to match organizational growth.[23:40] - Tracie points out that educating about realistic technology expectations involves managing the desire to scale prototypes instantly.[24:44] - Tracie argues for the importance of handling layoffs with empathy.[26:24] - Adapting to rapid changes requires adjusting systems.[29:35] - Tracie shares that she found solace in taking time off and exploring the book Designing Your Life to navigate career choices.[30:49] - Exploring alternative scenarios and milestones through exercises fosters openness to new possibilities and insights.Resources and Links Mentioned:Bill Burnett & Dave Evans - Designing Your Life: How to Build a Well-Lived, Joyful LifeWe have 200+ CTOs in peer groups: Quick Testimonials VideoContact Etienne: Website / YouTube / LinkedIn / X / Instagram / The CTO Podcast WebsiteSchedule a meeting with Etienne on CalendlySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

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    From Pragmatism to Pivot Tables: Navigating Leadership, Philosophy, and Data Mastery with Matt Van Itallie

    Etienne is very happy to be sitting down with Matt Van Itallie, founder of Sema, a company that develops software to help engineering leaders manage AI in software development. As they delve into their shared experiences of learning to code on vintage machines, they explore Matt's journey from studying philosophy to founding Sema.The conversation takes a philosophical turn, discussing pragmatism in decision-making and the importance of clarifying outcomes, and Etienne and Matt also dissect the complexities of C-suite dynamics and the challenges of resolving conflicts within leadership teams. Matt shares insights on the significance of developer retention and the metrics that matter most on a CTO dashboard, and the discussion touches on the art of listening, empathy, and the power of effective communication within organizations.As they plan a session on pivot tables, Matt also emphasizes the value of community, highlighting the support and inspiration found in groups like 7CTOs. Tune in for a thought-provoking conversation on leadership, problem-solving, and the human side of technology!Time Stamps:[2:09] - Learn how Matt’s academic journey expanded with a focus on law's evolution and late 19th-century pragmatism.[4:56] - Matt argues that our brains seek to make sense of things.[7:24] - Etienne reflects on navigating conflicting perspectives among C-Suite members, highlighting the challenge of coherence.[10:23] - Focus on critical outcomes, not just outputs.[12:25] - Matt emphasizes fostering understanding through clarifying outcomes and promoting inclusive dialogue and contributions.[15:58] - Matt suggests identifying underlying causes of communication issues and resolving conflicts promptly for organizational success.[16:40] - Hear how Matt prioritizes organizational goals over personal interests, advocating for a values-based decision-making approach.[18:46] - Matt explains how Sema goes about making decisions pragmatically.[21:07] - The opposite of pragmatism might be scrutiny, but pragmatism focuses on moving forward effectively.[24:45] - Mastering pivot tables symbolizes problem-solving prowess, transforming decision-making with raw data access.[28:03] - Discover how pivotal moments led to Sema's inception in 2015, spurred by tech challenges and leadership insights.[30:50] - Matt explains how, inspired by a Bloomberg article, he delved into tech research in 2015, seeking innovation.[32:25] - Matt pursued tech research, seeking licenses from 250 professors; one acceptance birthed Sema.[34:40] - Matt discusses developer retention, a pivotal metric, and how it holds 25 points on Sema's 100-point scale.[37:40] - Etienne shares a story in which a key developer's silence flagged a possible departure, highlighting the important role of product vision clarity.[39:16] - Matt asserts that effective people management discerns subtle shifts in participation, vital for organizational success and cohesion.[41:49] - Matt encourages us to prioritize listening qualitatively to one's team before relying solely on data-driven tools.[43:44] - Etienne agrees, adding that mastering listening is as complex as it is crucial, often underestimated despite its profound impact.We have 200+ CTOs in peer groups: Quick Testimonials VideoContact Etienne: Website / YouTube / LinkedIn / X / Instagram / The CTO Podcast WebsiteContact Matt: Sema Website / LinkedIn / XSchedule a meeting with Etienne on CalendlySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

  24. 212

    CTO Leadership: Navigating Startup Realities and Inspiring Teams with Krijn Van der Raadt

    Etienne sits down with Krijn van der Raadt, a seasoned CTO with a rich history of steering both startups and established tech giants toward successful exits. Krijn, now a fractional CTO and advisor to startups, shares insights gained and collaborative problem-solving experiences with fellow CTOs. They explore the challenges of transitioning from a technical role to a leadership position and the common pitfalls faced by startups when scaling their engineering teams.Dive into the conversation as Krijn reflects on his journey from Great Call to Health App Folio, discussing leadership styles, organizational structures, and the Goldilocks rate of growth. The episode unfolds with a fascinating discussion on managing budgets in different scenarios, exploring the nuances of constrained vs. surplus spending and the impact on team motivation.Krijn also sheds light on his passion for preparedness and frugality, drawing parallels between his Dutch background and his approach to leadership. Etienne and Krijn delve into the significance of scarcity as an inspiration for quality work, touching on the dynamics of team motivation and purpose.The episode takes a turn into the realm of simulations and imagination, where Krijn recommends Jane McGonigal's Imaginable. Discover how the lessons from simulations can transform leadership approaches, enhance team collaboration, and prepare for unforeseen challenges.Krijn wraps up with insights into tools like ChatGPT and Jupyter notebooks, offering practical tips for effective utilization. Tune in to explore the multifaceted world of leadership, technology, and the human element with Krijn and Etienne in this engaging and insightful episode.Time Stamps:[2:57] - Krijn highlights the challenges of evolving from a founding engineer to an effective CTO in startups.[4:33] - Etienne and Krijn discuss the fascination of transitioning from a technical role to a leadership position.[6:46] - Krijn shares his experiences with constrained spending and the motivation it provides for quality work.[9:11] - The discussion turns to the impact of excessive funds on team motivation and product success.[11:37] - Krijn relates his passion for preparedness, fiscal responsibility, and strategic planning.[13:19] - Krijn reflects on Jane McGonigal's Imaginable and its influence on leadership and team collaboration.[17:39] - Etienne delves into the importance of bringing stakeholders along through scenario painting.[20:53] - Listen as Krijn highlights the value of ChatGPT and AI tools in enhancing productivity and problem-solving.[23:19] - Krijn advocates for the widespread adoption of tools like Copilot and ChatGPT for increased productivity.[26:23] - Krijn explores the role of a Python library.[29:05] - Krijn shares his concern about the prevalence of poor leadership and the need for sincerity and humility.[30:49] - Etienne reflects on the challenges of leadership and the importance of staying connected to the purpose.[33:51] - The discussion touches on the disconnect between leadership positions and the tactical understanding required.[36:09] - Etienne discusses the importance of recognizing and reconciling different perspectives within the organization.[38:35] - Krijn emphasizes the significance of leaders inspiring trust through sincerity, humility, and a lack of ego.Resources and Links Mentioned:leadcto.comJane McGonigal - ImaginableWe have 200+ CTOs in peer groups: Quick Testimonials VideoContact Etienne: Website / YouTube / LinkedIn / X / Instagram / The CTO Podcast WebsiteSchedule a meeting with Etienne on CalendlySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

  25. 211

    Leadership, Technology, and the “It Depends” Philosophy: Insights from Kevin Goldsmith

    Kevin Goldsmith, a seasoned CTO, mentor, and principal at Nimble Autonomy, joins the conversation today as we discuss Kevin's journey in technology leadership across the US, Sweden, and the UK, touching on his experiences and the release of his new book, It Depends: Writing on Technology Leadership 2012 to 2022.The discussion covers technology adoption, with a focus on ChatGPT and its recent Teams product. Kevin reveals how his team embraced ChatGPT, its role in policy creation, and the advantages of the Teams program for collaborative work. The conversation unfolds into a deeper exploration of the evolving role of CTOs, the future landscape for aspiring leaders, and the potential impact of advanced tools on development processes.Kevin, in addition, sheds light on the creation of his book, sharing insights into the inspiration behind the title It Depends and the unique approach that he took in preserving the original context of his blog posts. He touches on the audiobook creation process and the decision to self-release, emphasizing accessibility and convenience for readers.Kevin also offers us a glimpse into his vision for the future, both in terms of technology leadership and the evolving capabilities of generative text generators like ChatGPT. The candid and insightful conversation provides listeners with a multifaceted view of technology, leadership, and the intricate balance between innovation and the human touch, and you won't want to miss this conversation.Time Stamps:[00:33] - Kevin Goldsmith joins us today![03:42] - Kevin candidly shares that after years of struggling to quit smoking, he successfully quit when his child was conceived.[04:45] - Armed with a PhD in neuroscience, Kevin quit smoking cold turkey after moving to Europe.[07:38] - Having faced the challenge of using smoking breaks to clear his mind, Kevin now copes differently.[09:27] - Reflecting on sixteen years without smoking, Kevin recalls a unique experience at Microsoft leveraging smokers' restlessness.[11:32] - Kevin admits that, even in his pre-smoking days, he sometimes consciously chose to smoke influenced by the band scene that he was part of.[13:05] - Eager to explore new technologies, Kevin's team embraced ChatGPT, finding it to be a valuable and helpful tool.[15:42] - Kevin shares how ChatGPT has been a valuable tool for writing policies, streamlining their creation.[17:44] - Opting for efficiency in creating his book's index, Kevin used ChatGPT to automate the process.[19:03] - Kevin reflects on his role as a CTO, valuing his longevity.[20:29] - Kevin finds the diverse career paths of CTOs fascinating, noting the changed landscape enabling quicker advancements.[23:39] - Reflecting on the evolution of the CTO role, Kevin sees a richer learning landscape today.[27:42] - Kevin likens tools like ChatGPT to skilled interns, adept at routine tasks, but not for inventive or complex challenges.[29:57] - Despite excitement and venture capitalist interest, some ideas have never materialized or panned out.[32:57] - Kevin discusses how the new product, akin to ChatGPT+, offers additional features like admin interface, privacy settings, and team chat sharing.[35:09] - Kevin encourages using ChatGPT to seek code suggestions and streamline tasks, emphasizing its value despite initial skepticism.[39:29] - Preserving the original context of blog posts, Kevin's book, It Depends, explores timeless tech leadership themes.[41:01] - The book's title reflects Kevin's philosophy on nuanced technology leadership, emphasizing decision-making that depends on context.[43:42] - Kevin shares what inspired the idea behind his book.[46:39] - Kevin currently uses Podbean for his podcast but is contemplating self-hosting for a more contextual and enjoyable experience.[50:22] - Kevin reveals where It Depends can be purchased.[53:10] - Listeners are advised not to edit their own audiobook if they aren’t familiar with the process.Resources and Links Mentioned:It Depends: Writing on Technology Leadership 2012-2022 (Book)It Depends: Writing on Technology Leadership 2012-2022 (Podcast)Contact Etienne: Website / LinkedIn / X / The CTO Podcast WebsiteSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

  26. 210

    Just use Flutter - Stephan Schmidt // Amazing CTO

    Just use Flutter -- Stephan Schmidt // Amazing CTOThis episode we discuss why you should just use Flutter instead of native apps, what Local AI means and why the Amazon CEO wants to get people back in the office - and how this is relevant for every CTO. Find out more as Stephan Schmidt, CTO Coach at Amazing CTO, discusses the future of CTOs. Show Notes.Connect With: Stephan Schmidt: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterThe CTO Podcast: Website // Speaker ApplicationEtienne de Bruin: Website // LinkedIn //  TwitterAmazing CTO Newsletter WebsiteSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

  27. 209

    End of Stack Overflow -- Stephan Schmidt // Amazing CTO

    The number of posts and votes on Stack Overflow is dropping, perhaps eaten by AI. Do they have an endgame strategy? Also, a new hacking attack via NPM, every CTO needs to be aware of that. And how diverse teams require more effort but are worth it. Find out more as Stephan Schmidt, CTO Coach at Amazing CTO, discusses the future of CTOs with AI. Show Notes.Connect With: Stephan Schmidt: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterThe CTO Podcast: Website // Speaker ApplicationEtienne de Bruin: Website // LinkedIn //  TwitterAmazing CTO Newsletter WebsiteSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

  28. 208

    Greenest Programming Languages -- Stephan Schmidt // Amazing CTO

    What is the greenest programming language? More and more CTOs are getting asked about the CO2 and energy footprint of their operations. They start by calculating their AWS energy usage, but do you need a greener programming language? Will the CEO of the future tell developers which programming language to use? Find out more as Stephan Schmidt, CTO Coach at Amazing CTO, discusses the future of CTOs."Connect With: Stephan Schmidt: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterThe CTO Podcast: Website // Speaker ApplicationEtienne de Bruin: Website // LinkedIn //  TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

  29. 207

    The future of CTOs with AI -- Stephan Schmidt // Amazing CTO

    More and more work will go into training models than programming, development teams are going to be leaner, and AI will not create software, it is the software. If you haven't started doing something with AI, you're too late for the game. How do you apply it to your business? Find out more as Stephan Schmidt, CTO Coach at Amazing CTO, discusses the future of CTOs with AI. Show NotesConnect With: Stephan Schmidt: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterThe CTO Podcast: Website // Speaker ApplicationEtienne de Bruin: Website // LinkedIn //  TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

  30. 206

    Vision, Strategy An Alignment -- Stephan Schmidt // Amazing CTO

    There is a business vision and a business strategy, a product vision and a product strategy, and then a tech vision and a tech strategy. The business vision, the product vision, and the tech vision need to be aligned. What is your tech vision and strategy, and how do you create one? Find out more as Stephan Schmidt, CTO Coach at Amazing CTO, discusses vision, strategy, and alignment. Show NotesConnect With: Stephan Schmidt: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterThe CTO Podcast: Website // Speaker ApplicationEtienne de Bruin: Website // LinkedIn //  TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

  31. 205

    AI replaces programmers - Threads killing Twitter

    🔴 https://7ctos.com for CTO Coaching with Peer groups 🗞️ https://www.amazingcto.com/cto-newsletter Newsletter for CTOs🎙️ And for more episodes check out https://ctopod.com🔔 Subscribe for regular updates https://www.youtube.com/@7CTOs#CTO #CTONews 👑Threads passes 30M sign-ups in less than 24 hours ➡️ http://www.amazingcto.com/newsletter/nl-53.html#threads👑 Stability AI CEO: There Will Be No (Human) Programmers in Five Years➡️ http://www.amazingcto.com/newsletter/nl-53.html#stability-ai-ceo-there-will👑 Boss such a tyrant you need a job quitting agent➡️ http://www.amazingcto.com/newsletter/nl-53.html#boss-such-tyrant-you-need👑 Automatically migrate code to another language with ChatGPT➡️ http://www.amazingcto.com/newsletter/nl-53.html#0xpaynegptmigrateSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

  32. 204

    Building Organizational Trust in AI -- Ksenia Palke // Airspace

    How do you start using AI in your organization? A bad reason to use AI is that you have this intellectual curiosity, which is great to have, but it's not a good enough reason to start using AI. How do you, as CTO, present the advantages of mining your data? How do you know if you have enough data or whether you should be programming or training? Listen to Ksenia Palke, Director of AI at Airspace, as she discusses building organizational trust in AI. Show NotesConnect With: Ksenia Palke: Website // LinkedIn The CTO Podcast: Website // Speaker ApplicationEtienne de Bruin: Website // LinkedIn //  TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

  33. 203

    How to Apply AI at Your Company -- Ksenia Palke // Airspace

    As the CTO of your company, it is almost impossible to onlook or resist the urge to deploy AI in some form in your company. But before you make that move, is your company in the gray zone? Are you aware of ethical considerations and AI bias? Who should you hire first a data scientist or a data engineer? Listen to Ksenia Palke, Director of AI at Airspace, as she discusses applying AI in your company. Show NotesConnect With: Ksenia Palke: Website // LinkedIn The CTO Podcast: Website // Speaker ApplicationEtienne de Bruin: Website // LinkedIn //  TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

  34. 202

    Solo Projects // Reddit // Imaginary Problems // Estimation // GPT-4 Pitch Decks

    Etienne and Stephan are at it again.00:00 Intro and Puppies!00:40 Andreas Kling Receives $100,000 To Build His Ladybird Browser 08:55 Reddit CEO Steve Huffman praises Elon Musk's cost-curring methods amid widespread protest19:44 Imaginary Problems Are The Root Of All Bad Software29:36 Estimation Isn't For Everyone44:08 GPT-4 Out Performs Humans In Pitch Deck SuccessCheck out 7ctos.comCheck out www.amazingcto.comAnd for more episodes check out ctopod.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

  35. 201

    How CTO's Should Rely on Automation Infrastructure -- Rob Hirschfeld // RackN

    People should be automating as much as they can, but they don't have a lot of ground rules, benefits, or even KPIs that they can use to start knowing if they're automating well. Want to know more? Listen to Rob Hirschfeld, CEO and Founder of RackN, as he discusses how CTOs should rely on automation infrastructure. Show NotesConnect With: Rob Hirschfeld: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterThe CTO Podcast: Website // Speaker ApplicationEtienne de Bruin: Website // LinkedIn //  TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

  36. 200

    The Role of DevOps in Building Startups -- Rob Hirschfeld // RackN

    When you're building something that needs to run people's production data centers, or people start depending on your product, they don't want it to be an MVP; they want that DevOps discipline of building CI and CD systems, testing, security checks, and all those pieces. Want to know more? Listen to Rob Hirschfeld, CEO and Founder of RackN, as he discusses the role of DevOps in building startups. Show NotesConnect With: Rob Hirschfeld: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterThe CTO Podcast: Website // Speaker ApplicationEtienne de Bruin: Website // LinkedIn //  TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

  37. 199

    Industry-Specific Applications of AI -- Sanjay Sehgal // MSys

    The authentic use of AI in any industry is turning complexity into clarity. Many Ai tools are available, but not many takers because many people can't figure out how to use them in their environment. How should you be thinking about deploying AI in your industry? Listen to Sanjay Sehgal, CEO of MSys Technologies, as he discusses industry-specific applications of AI. Show NotesConnect With: Sanjay Sehgal: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterThe CTO Podcast: Website // Speaker ApplicationEtienne de Bruin: Website // LinkedIn //  TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

  38. 198

    Ethics & Human-AI Partnerships -- Sanjay Sehgal // MSys

    With AI development moving at a fast pace, there are concerns that people are at risk of crossing ethical lines. Some are wary that AI could even replace human connections. How exposed are you to AI, and what can you do to keep pace with such an inequitable partner? Listen to Sanjay Sehgal, CEO of MSys Technologies as he discusses ethics and human AI partnerships. Show NotesConnect With: Sanjay Sehgal: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterThe CTO Podcast: Website // Speaker ApplicationEtienne de Bruin: Website // LinkedIn //  TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

  39. 197

    Focusing on Revenue Goals with Cross Functional Teams -- Ole Dallerup // Dreamdata.io

    How do you focus on revenue when scaling and developing cross-functional teams? It starts by being able to measure and link your product's functionality, features, and usage to real revenue impact. And sharing that with the team who built them to give them accountability. When you do that and get your product usage data under control, each team understands well how to impact it. How do you do it? Listen to Ole Dallerup, CTO and Co-founder of Dreamdata.io, as he discusses how to focus on revenue goals and manage cross-functional teams. Show NotesConnect With: Ole Dallerup: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterThe CTO Podcast: Website // Speaker ApplicationEtienne de Bruin: Website // LinkedIn //  TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

  40. 196

    Becoming a Tech Leader of a Fast-Growing Startup -- Ole Dallerup // Dreamdata.io

    The path to becoming a tech leader at a fast-growing startup is multifaceted, so you have to be hands-on from the onset: from coding your product to raising and developing a team. As a CTO, you have your work laid out for you. How do you handle it all and become the CTO of your dreams? Listen to Ole Dallerup, CTO and Co-founder of Dreamdata.io, as he discusses becoming a tech leader at a fast-growing startup. Show NotesConnect With: Ole Dallerup: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterThe CTO Podcast: Website // Speaker ApplicationEtienne de Bruin: Website // LinkedIn //  TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

  41. 195

    The Performance Boosting Power of Feedback -- Darva Satcher // GitLab Inc.

    Feedback can be scary to give and receive, but it doesn't have to be because everyone needs it to improve and grow the company. See feedback as data and not a judgment about who or what is right or wrong. How do you deal with the emotions that come with feedback? How do you ask for feedback to get the data you need to boost performance? Listen to Darva Satcher, Director of Engineering of GitLab Inc., as she discusses the performance-boosting power of feedback. Show NotesConnect With: Darva Satcher: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterThe CTO Podcast: Website // Speaker ApplicationEtienne de Bruin: Website // LinkedIn //  TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

  42. 194

    Unlocking the Power of the Skip Level Meetings -- Darva Satcher // GitLab Inc.

    There's always some hierarchy in every organization, no matter how flat they try to keep things flat. The farther away people are from the center point, the harder it is to keep them glued. Skip levels are a way to keep people connected to the vision. What is it, and how does it work? Listen to Darva Satcher, Director of Engineering of GitLab Inc., as she discusses how to unlock the power of skip-level meetings. Show NotesConnect With: Darva Satcher: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterThe CTO Podcast: Website // Speaker ApplicationEtienne de Bruin: Website // LinkedIn //  TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

  43. 193

    Work on Your Reputation Inside and Outside Your Company! -- Kevin Goldsmith // DistroKid

    Brittany Cotton and Etienne de Bruin talk to Kevin Goldsmith and Claudius Mbemba about the importance of building your reputation as CTO/VPE or technical executive.Connect With: Kevin Goldsmith: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterThe CTO Podcast: Website // Speaker ApplicationEtienne de Bruin: Website // LinkedIn //  TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

  44. 192

    Grooming Engineering Managers -- Dalia Havens // Replicated

    Dalia Havens, VPE of Replicated, discusses about grooming engineering managers.Connect With: Dalia Havens: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterThe CTO Podcast: Website // Speaker ApplicationEtienne de Bruin: Website // LinkedIn //  TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

  45. 191

    Architecture to Manage Data Costs & Complexity -- Adrian Estala // Starburst

    The era of hoarding access to data is fast passing because access to data is driving incredible value. But how do you manage the costs and complexity? As a CTO, when do you bring on a CDO to help your company leverage all the data you've been gathering? Listen to Adrian Estala, VP, Field Chief Data Officer of Starburst, as he discusses architectures and ways to manage data costs and complexity. Show NotesConnect With: Adrian Estala: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterThe CTO Podcast: Website // Speaker ApplicationEtienne de Bruin: Website // LinkedIn //  TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

  46. 190

    The Evolution of the CDO Role -- Adrian Estala // Starburst

    The Chief Data Officer role is relatively new but has quickly evolved from governance and data capabilities to thinking about the business, specific use cases, and the projects that will deliver those use cases. However, the biggest issue for a CDO, especially in a big company, is every one of your business consumers has a different ask. They want to use the same data, but they want to use it differently. How do you cope with that? Listen to Adrian Estala, VP, Field Chief Data Officer of Starburst, as he discusses the evolution of the CDO role. Show NotesConnect With: Adrian Estala: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterThe CTO Podcast: Website // Speaker ApplicationEtienne de Bruin: Website // LinkedIn //  TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

  47. 189

    Coaching Your Engineers vs. Giving Them Feedback -- Etienne de Bruin // 7CTOs

    Etienne spends a bit of one on one time with you talking about the differences between coaching our people vs. giving them feedback.Connect With: Etienne de Bruin: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterThe CTO Podcast: Website // Speaker ApplicationEtienne de Bruin: Website // LinkedIn //  TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

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    The Power of Stillness for the CTO -- Brittany Cotton // 7CTOs

    We had a discussion about how the role of CTO is actually fundamentally changing where we have to consider the fact that the tools we're using processes we have in place are actually not in service anymore to this globalized workforce. One of the things, I think why we're here in the workforce is that. Everything we did the last two years has been reactionary. Etienne de Bruin and Brittany Cotton discuss the power of stillness and reflection for the CTO in this time.Connect With: Brittany Cotton: Website // LinkedIn The CTO Podcast: Website // Speaker ApplicationEtienne de Bruin: Website // LinkedIn //  TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

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    How to Stop Juggling & Start Shipping Product -- Surya Oruganti // Argonaut

    So many small teams start by configuring the bare necessities to get their product going. Then they want to scale and realize a DevOps component is missing at your company. Hiring a DevOps person to get them up to speed and then working with them will be a few months off. How do you stop juggling and focus on product improvement from day one? Find out more as Surya Oruganti, Founder & CEO at Argonaut, discusses how to stop juggling and start shipping products. Show NotesConnect With: Surya Oruganti: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterThe CTO Podcast: Website // Speaker ApplicationEtienne de Bruin: Website // LinkedIn //  TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

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    No DevOps? No Problem -- Surya Oruganti // Argonaut

    Some CTOs want their developers to be well-versed in DevOps others want their SREs to handle that; what if you don't have any of those? Do you hire a DevOps or take the no-Ops option? What if you could have a happy middle ground that brings the benefits of no-ops to a platform such as AWS or GCP? Find out more as Surya Oruganti, Founder & CEO at Argonaut, discusses DevOps, no-Ops, and what you can do without either. Show NotesConnect With: Surya Oruganti: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterThe CTO Podcast: Website // Speaker ApplicationEtienne de Bruin: Website // LinkedIn //  TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com

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The CTO Podcast explores the worlds of Chief Technical officers as they manage the trials, tribulations, and triumphs of technologists in the C-suite. Hosted by Etienne de Bruin, founder of 7CTOs and author of CTO Excellence in 100 Days: Becoming the leader your company deserves. www.ctopod.com

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