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The Data Journalism Podcast
by Alberto Cairo, Simon Rogers & Scott Klein
Hosts Alberto Cairo, Simon Rogers and Scott Klein will explore the latest in data journalism. You will meet the world’s top data journalists - and you will find out how they do what they do.Subscribe to see how data is changing the world of journalism forever.
Episodes
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Mapping International Conflict with Claire Boccon-Gibod
Claire Boccon-Gibod is senior data visualization designer at the International Crisis Group (ICG). ICG’s latest explainer, “The Fight for Sittwe,” maps the current conflict in Myanmar. Claire joins Scott and Alberto to go behind-the-scenes on this timely and detailed piece. The music this...
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Data Stories Are Human Stories with Doug Smith
Doug Smith is a reporter at the Los Angeles Times who’s been with the paper for over 50 years. He was also the database editor there from 2004 to 2015. We sat down with him at NICAR to talk about what’s changed in journalism over his time in the industry, and what he’s working on today. Special...
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Showing Your Work with Ben Welsh
Ben Welsh is the news applications editor at Reuters. He joins the hosts to discuss his and Scott’s recent article, “Journalism lost its culture of sharing: Here’s how we rebuild it.” They share the ways they’ve seen open source culture change over time, and advice for increased collaboration...
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Documenting a Transit Nightmare with Greg Morton
Greg Morton is the data editor for The Baltimore Banner. His story, “Transit nightmare: Thousands of Baltimore kids can’t get to school on time” won first place at the 2025 Philip Meyer Awards. We sat down with him at NICAR to go behind the scenes on the project. Special thanks to the NICAR team...
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What We Ask Google
Our very own Simon Rogers is coming out with a book on May 5th! It’s called “What We Ask Google: A Surprisingly Hopeful History of Humankind.” Scott and Alberto got a chance to ask him all about the research and writing process, as well as what Simon hopes people take away from the book. You can...
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DJP LIVE! with ProPublica’s data team
The Data Journalism Podcast went live at the NICAR conference! On March 7, Simon, Scott and Alberto spoke with the team behind ProPublica’s Meyer Award-winning series, “Life of the Mother.” Reporter Andrea Suozzo and Deputy Data Editor Hannah Fresques go behind-the-scenes on their investigation...
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Data for Everyone: The Open Visualization Academy
The Open Visualization Academy is a new open-access education project, spearheaded by our very own Alberto Cairo! It launched last month, and two of the other instructors, Hannah Dormido and Frank Elavsky, join us to talk about their courses. Check out the project at openvisualizationacademy.org....
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Data journalism in the face of ICE and subzero temperatures in MN
MaryJo Webster is data editor at the Minnesota Star Tribune. She joins Alberto, Scott and Simon to talk about her team’s ongoing coverage of federal immigration troops deployed in Minnesota. They discuss analyzing data in a breaking news environment, and what reporters in other places can learn...
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A Look Ahead to 2026
As a new year begins, Alberto, Scott and Simon reflect on the broader state of the industry. They discuss dataviz favorites from 2025, what they're working on in 2026, and thoughts on the upcoming year in data journalism. Work mentioned in the episode: Computation + Journalism conference "Organ...
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Launching the Trans News Initiative
The Trans News Initiative is a new project that tracks and analyzes news coverage of trans communities in the U.S. Our very own Alberto Cairo helped create it, and this week we're joined by three other guests who made it happen: Kae Petrin, Caitlyn Ralph, and Jan Diehm. Check it out at...
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Breaking New Ground with the Straits Times
The Straits Times is Singapore’s most widely read print newspaper, and its online presence is full of innovative data visualization projects. Our guests this week — Charlene Chua, Hannah Ong, and Stephanie Adeline — are three of the young journalists making it happen. They join us to discuss…
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Charts as Political Theater
Not since Ross Perot’s famous TV presentations using cardboard charts have we had a national figure who uses data visualization props quite like Donald Trump. This week, Philip Bump joins Scott and Simon to talk about Trump’s use of data, and how politicians more generally approach information...
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Roundtable: The shifting data landscape
Data analysis is at an inflection point, with new technologies entering the field, and increasingly more practitioners working outside of journalism. This week, Alberto, Simon and Scott reflect on how they got into data journalism, and what’s changed over the years. They discuss how each of their...
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Outlier 2025: Dispatch from the data visualization community
Outlier is a one-of-a-kind conference, held annually by the Data Visualization Society. This year it was hosted at the University of Miami, where our very own Alberto gave the closing keynote. In this special episode, Scott and Simon chat with Alberto about the conference, his keynote, and the...
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Finding Ourselves in Historic Data
“40 Acres and a Lie” tells the true story behind the Civil War–era “40 acres and a mule” program. It was the result of over two years of painstaking research by Alexia Fernández Campbell, April Simpson and Pratheek Rebala. The project won a Sigma Award and a Philip Meyer Data Journalism Award…
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Datapocalypse! Are we losing our public data?
Cheryl Phillips is Hearst Professional in Residence at Stanford University’s journalism program, and founder of Big Local News, which empowers journalists with data – and has twice been on Pulitzer prize winning news teams. Now she has devoted herself to empowering journalists with access to the...
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Chiqui Esteban: inside the Washington Post graphics team and how to visualize opinion
Chiqui Esteban is Design & Art Director at the Washington Post Opinion section. In the first episode with new co-host Scott Klein, he talks to us about the lessons he's learned during his amazing career, from his early days as a student at a famous visual journalism program in Spain all the way…
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Scott Klein: tales of 2024
It was a year in which a Presidential candidate said a chart saved his life, generative AI changed journalism and we worried about whether the field is getting less innovative. Scott Klein is an entrepreneur in residence at Newspack, helping publishers on WordPress and other platforms do great...
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David Spiegelhalter: The Art of Uncertainty
David Spiegelhalter is Emeritus Professor of Statistics in the Statistical Laboratory, University of Cambridge and author of new book The Art of Uncertainty We live in chaotic times and David makes that world a little clearer with humour and clarity in this special interview with Alberto and…
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Kae Petrin: data for change
Kae Petrin is a data and graphics reporting at Chalkbeat, Votebeat, and Healthbeat, where they produce stories on education and voting rights. Kae is also a co-founder and part of the leadership of the Trans Journalists Association. In the episode we discuss Kae's work, their view of beat-centric...
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Garrett Archer: on the election data frontline in Arizona
Garrett Archer is the data analyst at ABC15 in Phoenix, Arizona, where he is a data storyteller and one of the foremost experts on Arizona's election system. As America votes, Garrett will be responsible for reporting the facts in one of the most tightly-fought US elections for decades. Find out...
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Sisi Wei: data stories at The Markup and CalMatters
Sisi Wei is the Chief Impact Officer at CalMatters & The Markup, based in New York. Sisi founded the DEI Coalition For Anti-Racist, Equitable, And Just Newsrooms and was the Assistant Managing Editor at ProPublica. She has also won the Gwen Ifill Award. Alberto chats with Sisi about her work and...
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AI and data journalism: the AP's Garance Burke
Garance Burke is a global investigative reporter for the Associated Press, with a focus on reporting around Artificial Intelligence. She wrote the chapter of the AP style guide around reporting on AI and leads a team which works with data to tell stories every day. She joins Simon and Alberto to...
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How the Pulitzer Center does data journalism
How does the Pulitzer Center create such great data journalism? Alberto and Simon are joined by Doménica Montaño, the Center's program coordinator for environmental investigations. Working with terrific data journalists like director Gustavo Faleiros and Kuek Ser Kuang Keng, the team produces...
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The Cool Grey City of Data: inside the San Francisco Chronicle's data team
Dan Kopf and Nami Sumida join Simon and Alberto to discuss how the SF Chronicle tells data stories, such as Sumida's recent exploration of the city's Japantown (sub required) and the WW2 internment that nearly destroyed it. The team discuss what makes the Bay Area such a rich source of data...
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Anna Brand: data journalism for CNN
Anna Brand is the Managing Editor for Data and Graphics at CNN Digital. She chats with Simon and Alberto about building a data journalism team at the news outlet, explains how it works and what inspires her. The music this week, made with TwoTone, is based on the data behind this CNN...
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Holiday special: why data storytelling matters
It’s a different kind of podcast this week: Simon and Alberto talk about Alberto’s latest book, The Art of Insight, why data journalism is still a dream job and our approaches to working with numbers to tell stories. Find out what books got us here - and what we care about most, when it comes to...
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"Hungary is a data journalism superpower"
Attila Bátorfy is a data journalist operating in Viktor Orbán's Hungary, heading up ATLO and pioneering the field in the country as a teacher and practitioner. Find out why he believes Hungary is the country to watch for data storytelling. Music by TwoTone, based on data about rising Hungary's...
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Data journalism at The Guardian
The Guardian's Pamela Duncan and Ashley Kirk join Simon to talk about how data journalism has changed since he was there, how the news organisation works today and what is coming next. Music by TwoTone, based on data from this story about rising surface temperatures. You can hear the full (long)...
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Alan Smith: Inside the FT's data journalism operation
Alan Smith is a rare breed: he leads the FT's team of data reporters and designers, but has a background in the stuffy world of official statistics as former head of digital content at the UK's Office for National Statistics. Alan is also author of How Charts Work, a handbook on designing with…
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Data journalism in Kenya, with Eunice Magwambo
This week we meet data journalist Eunice Magwambo, whose team has trained over 2,000 journalists in data journalism and visualisation and is part of a new movement of talented data reporters in the region. She talks about how data journalism in Africa is different, the appetite for data-led…
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Live from Perugia: Data Journalism in Small Newsrooms
Recorded live at the International Journalism Fesitival in Perugia, Italy on April 21, 2023. This panel brought together some great practitioners producing award-winning data journalism in small newsrooms and sometimes on their own. Moderated by Simon, the panel includes: Yvette Cabrera, Center…
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Live from Perugia: The State of Data Journalism Today at the International Journalism Festival
It's a different kind of episode! Live from the 2023 International Journalism Festival in Perugia, this session features co-host Simon plus the following great speakers: Tara Kelly, data editor at the European Journalism Centre Sondre Solstad is The Economist’s Senior Data Journalist Moderated by...
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The Sigmas: inside the world's data journalism awards
How do you judge data journalism in 2023? The Sigma Data Journalism Awards is the only global award for the field and this episode sees Simon and Alberto chatting with Gina Chua, Aron Pilhofer, Kuek Ser Kuang Keng and Marianne Bouchart to discuss the state of data journalism today, the point of…
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Rani Molla: data for journalism
Rani Molla is a senior correspondent at Vox Media, reporting for Recode on the intersection between work, technology and the future. She uses data to tell stories every day, whether it's about our return to the office (or lack of), the impacts of AI on our world or the rise of burnout. In the...
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Florence Nightingale and the history of dataviz
RJ Andrews is the founder of data design studio Info We Trust and author of a new series of books delving into the deep history of of data visualisation and storytelling. In this episode of the pod, he talks about three significant parts of the history of data visuals: Florence Nightingale, Emma...
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The science of dataviz, with Jen Christiansen
Jen Christiansen is the author of Building Science Graphics (published by A K Peters/CRC Press) and a senior graphics editor at Scientific American. In this episode of the pod, she talks about her approach to visualising scientific stories and to graphics, based on her long career in the field....
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CNN's Harry Enten: Data for TV
Harry Enten (@forecasterenten on Twitter) is one of the most-high-profile data journalists in the world. He explains the numbers every day on CNN - whether it's election polling, sports or even his original passion: meterology, specifically snowstorms. "I definitely see myself as a storyteller,"...
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Nigel Holmes: the joy of data
Nigel Holmes is a graphic designer, author, and theorist, who focuses on information graphics and information design. He's also the author of a new book, Joyful Infographics, a personal journey through visual design. Alberto and Simon chat with Nigel about why humanity and fun is so vital in...
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Nathan Yau: the flow of dataviz
Nathan Yau is behind one of the world's most influential data journalism and visualisation websites: Flowing Data. A statistician, Nathan started the site as a resource for students but it has become a go-to destination to find out the latest in data journalism. We discuss why dataviz matters…
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Amanda Cox: bringing facts to the people
Amanda Cox is Head of Special Data Projects at USAFacts, an unrivaled source of public data in the US. She's also an established data journalist and former editor of the NYT's Upshot data journalism section. As the winner of multiple awards, she's been referred to as the "Michael Phelps of...
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How Axios brings smart brevity to data journalism
The Axios team have spearheaded 'smart brevity', but how does that apply to data journalism and data visualisation? Alberto and Simon chat with the team that makes it happen: Danielle Alberti, Jacque Schrag and Will Chase about how they work and what makes a project 'Axios'. You can check out the...
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Inside the New York Times Graphics Team
Archie Tse is the Graphics Director at The New York Times. He has been at The Times since 1995, and he has pioneered graphics reporting, often in person - especially after 9/11, traveling to Iraq to cover the US invasion, and reporting on the capture of Saddam Hussein. He is even credited by some...
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Information is Beautiful: an interview with David McCandless
One of the most successful published data journalists in the world today, David McCandless has a new book out: Beautiful News. His work is innovative, newsy, current and incredibly popular with readers — but sometimes controversial with what he calls the "chart police". Alberto and Simon chat…
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Jessica Huseman: data stories for the US Midterm elections
Election reporting has become one of the most important journalism beats in America as we barrel towards the midterm elections. How can data journalism help? Jessica Huseman has become the face of election reporting in America. Editorial Director at Votebeat, she also owns the data journalism...
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A Data Journalist in Ukraine
Anatoliy Bondarenko is Data editor at Texty.org.ua, an award-winning news and data site in Ukraine, from where he joins Alberto and Simon to discuss his life in a war zone as a data journalist. His team's work to analyse misinformation has won a Sigma data journalism award for best News…
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Data journalism for the people! Ben Welsh and MaryJo Webster on the state of local data journalism
How do you make data journalism that matters to people about where they live? In the latest Data Journalism Podcast, Alberto and Simon explore local data journalism with two of the leading practitioners of the field. MaryJo Webster is the data editor for the Star Tribune in Minneapolis and has...
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2021 in data journalism: Scott Klein on how ProPublica does it, plus our favourite projects of the year
Scott Klein leads the teams at ProPublica that work at the intersection of journalism and technology. His teams have been recognized with a Peabody Award, several Online Journalism Awards for General Excellence, Malofiej International Infographics Award medals, the Data Journalism Award Jurors...
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Inside The Pudding
Matt Daniels and Caitlyn Ralph are just two of the team behind The Pudding, a visual collective of great visual data journalism - where you can find great longform data journalism such as this hunt for the internet’s oldest image, this guide to why women’s pockets are inferior and how many times…
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Eva Constanteras: doing data journalism in Afghanistan, Myanmar and across the Global South
Eva Constantaras is a data journalist with Internews and Lighthouse Reports who works around the world to establish data journalism units to tell public interest stories. She has worked with data journalists in Afghanistan, Myanmar and many other places around the world where numbers can make a...
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Hosts Alberto Cairo, Simon Rogers and Scott Klein will explore the latest in data journalism. You will meet the world’s top data journalists - and you will find out how they do what they do.Subscribe to see how data is changing the world of journalism forever.
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