The Debrief

The Debrief is joined by Russ Matthews and Idee Matthews Montijo to tell the extraordinary story of how they found the Pan Am Clipper Endeavor aircraft, 74 years after it crashed and sank off the coast of Puerto Rico. Russ and Idee trace the years of painstaking archival detective work that led them to the site, and the moment they finally found the wreck. They detail the unforgettable legacy left by this tragedy that reshaped air travel forever. The safety briefing every passenger hears before takeoff exists in part because of what happened that Friday in 1952, which means every person who has ever flown has been touched by this plane, and almost none of them know it.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Debrief is joined by Edna Cowell Martin, cousin of infamous serial killer Ted Bundy, and Megan Atkinson, who helped her tell her story in print. Edna takes the team back to a childhood spent alongside a boy nobody suspected, and answers the question that has followed her for decades: were there ever glimpses of what lay beneath? She describes what it was like to remain close to him while the murders were happening, how the family absorbed the news when the truth finally broke, and what passed between them in their final exchanges before he escaped prison for the second time. Megan explains how the writing process forced Edna to revisit trauma she had buried for years, and what it revealed about the toll it had taken on her whole life. It leaves one unsettling question hanging over the whole conversation: if someone close to you was living a double life, would you really see it?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Debrief is joined by Professor of Aerospace Engineering Dr. Adeel Khalid, to unpack the technology that recently found two lost hikers in a matter of hours, a search that could have taken human teams days. Dr. Khalid explains exactly what he has been building, and what one of these drones is actually seeing when it sweeps over a forest below. The team uncovers the accuracy difference between these machines and old school rescue tech like helicopters or dogs. They also find out how long these machines can stay airborne, and just how much ground they can cover on a single flight. Then the conversation lifts off into the future: what these life-saving systems will look like five to ten years from now, and how many more people they might bring home.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Debrief is joined by CeCe Moore, the pioneering genetic genealogist who helped turn a hobbyist's tool into one of the most powerful weapons in modern policing. CeCe explains what those consumer DNA tests are really telling you, how far back your family tree can genuinely be traced, and why some parts of the world are far better represented in the databases than others. The conversation digs into the hurdles of unpicking someone's ancestry, and how the same technology that reunites adoptees with birth parents is now cracking cold cases that sat untouched for decades. Then comes the harder question: where does personal privacy end and the pursuit of justice begin, when a distant cousin's spit sample can put a killer in handcuffs? CeCe also looks ahead to where AI takes this next, and reflects on how a career spent inside other people's DNA has reshaped the way she thinks about family, identity and truth itself.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Debrief is joined by Dr. Steven Hassan, one of the world's leading experts on cults, mind control and undue influence, and a man who knows the subject from the inside. Recruited as a young college student, Steven spent years inside a high-control group before getting out and dedicating his life to understanding how it happened. He explains exactly how skilled recruiters operate, the small steps that pull a person in long before they realise it, and why the people most vulnerable are almost never who you would expect. The conversation turns to the long road back, what it takes to rebuild a life, relationships, and learn to trust your own thoughts again. And with the internet doing the recruiting now, Steven has a warning about how much easier it has become - especially for the younger generation to disappear into one of these groups.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Debrief is joined by independent cold-case investigator Alex Baber, who believes he may have unmasked the man behind two of America’s most infamous unsolved crimes: the Black Dahlia murder and the Zodiac Killer. Alex makes the extraordinary claim that both were the work of the same man, and explains how he ended up chasing two cases that have haunted investigators for decades. Using AI, historical records, handwriting analysis and a fresh crack at one of the Zodiac’s shortest and most mysterious codes, he lays out how he arrived at his suspect. Alex even reveals the chilling moment he approached the son of the man he believes did it.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Debrief is joined by Paul Brodsky, a senior analyst at TeleGeography, to pull back the curtain on the physical guts of the internet. Paul explains how the whole system actually works, what people really mean when they talk about “the cloud,” and what happens in those split seconds when you send a simple message. The team gets into how much of the world’s internet traffic runs through undersea cables, what those cables actually look like - especially m just how startlingly thin they are for something the entire planet depends on. Then comes the big one: what happens when it all goes down?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Debrief is joined by Michael Pachter, one of the most respected analysts in the video games industry, as the countdown to GTA 6 hits fever pitch ahead of its November 19 launch. Michael breaks down just how enormous this release is in pure financial terms, why Rockstar has leaned so heavily into a digital-first approach, and whether fans should brace for the console shortages already being predicted. Plus, the team unpacks the stunt that stopped New York in its tracks, Angela Nikolau and Ivan Beerkus scaling the Empire State Building!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Debrief is joined by Roman Axelrod, founder of Dubai-based deep tech company XPANCEO, which is building what could be the world’s first fully integrated smart contact lens. Roman explains how the lens can merge augmented reality, health monitoring and biosensing into a single device that sits directly on your eye. The team digs into who this technology is actually for, from continuous glucose tracking for diabetics to hands-free data for surgeons and pilots, and how something so small manages to power itself. And with tech that literally touches the eye, the conversation turns to the big question hanging over it all: what does this mean for privacy, and are we ready for it?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Debrief is joined by Paul Holes, the investigator who helped crack one of the most notorious cold cases in American history. Paul takes the team inside the world of cold case work, where an investigation actually begins, and what Hollywood consistently gets wrong about it. He explains how he became involved in the Golden State Killer case and why the killer managed to stay hidden in plain sight for so long. Then he reveals how a brand new kind of forensic science finally caught up with him, and what really happened on the day it all came crashing down.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Debrief is joined by Barbara Butcher, who spent more than two decades as a death investigator in New York City, witnessing thousands of crime scenes over her career. Barbara explains exactly what the job involves, how someone ends up in that line of work, and how she mentally prepared to walk into a crime scene. She opens up about the difficulty of delivering devastating news to strangers, and even the times she clashed with police and homicide detectives. It left Dane and Shaan asking: what does our fascination with death really say about us?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Debrief tackles a tempting question: if money was no object, which franchise would you open, and could you actually make it work? Dane and Shaan dig into the surprising rules, hidden costs and wildly different definitions of "ownership" behind some of the world's biggest names. McDonald's owner-operator Paulina Kostecki joins from Detroit to reveal what it actually costs to run one, what owner really means in her world, the truth about Hamburger University, and the biggest misconceptions people have about life behind the golden arches.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Debrief is joined by Sima Taparia, the celebrated Indian matchmaker known to millions from her hit Netflix show. Sima shares the inner workings of her business, why she believes dating apps are failing a generation, and where she sees the matchmaking industry heading next. The conversation digs into how young people are finding love today and even her famous philosophy of "compromise and adjust”. What role does romance play in a modern relationship? Sima aunty says, important, but not as front-and-centre as you think!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Debrief breaks down SpaceX's record-breaking Nasdaq debut, the biggest IPO in history, and what it actually means. Why did this IPO matter so much? What does SpaceX even do beyond rockets? The conversation then drifts off-planet, into what living on Mars or the Moon would really involve: shelter and infrastructure, water, oxygen and food, power systems, and even what sunrise and sunset would look like in outer space. It all comes down to one question the hosts put to themselves: would they actually do it?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It all kicks off with the big question: if you were in a survival show, would you pick fire, hunting, or shelter? The Debrief is joined by UAE-based explorer Kshitish Koorapaty, who is on a mission to climb the legendary Seven Summits. With three already conquered, Elbrus, Aconcagua and Kilimanjaro, Kshitish takes the team through his journeys, the training behind each climb, and what it really takes to reach the top. He opens up his adventure pack to reveal the essentials he carries (he picked fire!), even challenging Dane and Shaan to lift it!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Debrief is joined by Segolene Stephenson to explore how Hawk-Eye Innovations and the technology behind it has transformed the world of sport. Segolene breaks down how the technology actually works, the precision it delivers, and the ways it has reshaped officiating across tennis, football, UFC and beyond. They even cover controversies in how the tech has slowed down sports and watching experiences. Dane and Shaan also dig into the odd ways the next generation is changing the way sport is watched, followed and consumed…See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Debrief is joined by Le Mans winner Mark Blundell ahead of the 2026 race. Mark takes the team through what it feels like to win the iconic 24-hour race, the physical and mental demands of endurance racing, and even all the drama behind his time in Formula 1. With the current F1 season in full swing, Mark also shares his take on this year's grid and where the championship is headed.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Debrief digs into the FIFA World Cup and why things haven't exactly gone to plan even before kickoff - from chaos to the complaints, and the new rules shaking up the tournament. The team get into the chants: Dane’s flying the flag for England while Sana has been handed the unenviable task of rooting for the USA!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

For over a decade, Martin Pistorius was fully aware but unable to move, speak, or tell anyone he was still there. Misunderstood as unreachable, he lived locked inside his own body until technology finally gave him a voice. In this extraordinary conversation, Martin opens up about the loneliness, the guilt of feeling like a burden to his family, and how he rebuilt a life he once believed was impossible… including finding love when he thought there was no future left for him.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

After Hermès faced backlash over alleged background checks on shoppers before allowing access to certain products, serious questions emerged about privacy, exclusivity, and what luxury brands can legally get away with.  IP lawyer Vivek Jayaram breaks down what’s actually legal behind the scenes of high-end retail, how brands protect exclusivity, and where the line is between customer screening and discrimination.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The watch world can’t stop talking: Swatch x Audemars Piguet collaboration but is it hype, history, or a cash machine waiting to explode? The Debrief are joined by a luxury watch content creator Karim Haddad who shares some industry insights, what collectors should expect, the resale frenzy already brewing, and the insider strategies most buyers won’t hear until it’s too late.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

How many decisions do you really make each day? According to Professor Robert Sapolsky… maybe none. In this fascinating conversation with the Debrief, the professor explains why he believes free will is an illusion, arguing that our choices are shaped long before we’re aware of them, by genetics, hormones, environment, and biology.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Debrief in conversation with Anna Lembke from Stanford University School of Medicine who breaks down how dopamine drives our habits and why it is so easy to become obsessed with things from our life. From compulsive scrolling to modern-day dependency, she explains what’s happening inside your brain and how to take back control before it’s too late.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

After losing their mum to dementia, brothers Jordan Adams and Cian Adams were hit with the unthinkable truth - they carry the same gene and could develop symptoms in their 40s. Instead of stepping back, they stepped up. Known as the FTD Brothers, they’ve already raised over £1 million and are pushing even harder. This powerful conversation covers genetic testing, running 32 marathons in 32 days and even being recognised with British royals.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What drives someone to run 100 miles every single week… for over 320 weeks straight? The Debrief are joined by Andy Glaze who breaks down the mindset, discipline, and sacrifice behind his unbelievable streak. From injuries and mental battles to documenting it all online they discuss what it takes to keep going.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

When a successful creator quits at her peak, people take sides. Is it brave honesty or total disconnect? Influencer relations expert Le D'Souza tells the Debrief exactly what brands really expect from influencers. From burnout behind the filters to the pressure of constant performance, we unpack the realities of an industry that looks glamorous but demands far more than you see.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Ben Lamm, co-founder of Colossal Biosciences joins the Debrief live for a fascinating conversation. Ben reveals how scientists are racing to revive species like the woolly mammoth. From cutting-edge genetics to exploring whether de-extinction could reshape ecosystems or rewrite the rules of life itself.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

AI expert, James Poulter explains to the Debrief how artificial intelligence is reshaping industries, creativity, and the future of work. From real-world applications to ethical dilemmas, he breaks down what AI means for all of us and why understanding it is no longer optional.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Debrief chat with Victor Vescovo, investor and explorer, who takes us from the highest peaks to the deepest points on Earth. From record-breaking ocean dives to extreme expeditions, he reveals what drives humans to explore the unknown and the mindset needed to operate where few have ever gone.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dane speaks with Alex Partridge, founder of UNILAD and LADbible, who breaks down how he built one of the world’s most influential digital media brands. From early disruption to global reach, he shares the risks, controversies as well as his own mental struggles with ADHD and how that has shaped him as a person.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Debrief in conversation with Peter Faulding, pace rescue and forensic search specialist, who reveals what it takes to locate the lost and uncover the truth in the most challenging environments. From high-risk rescue missions to groundbreaking forensic techniques and equipment, he shares the realities behind his role.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Debrief in conversation with Allisson Levine who shares what it really takes to survive Everest, endure Antarctica, and push past breaking points. From brutal conditions to mental resilience, and she reveals why success isn’t just about strength.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dane and Sana get inside the mind of Steve Keogh a detective Inspector whose 30-year career in the UK's Metropolitan Police started in 1991. Steve breaks down what it is really like to be a part of a real life crime scene, from split-second decisions to the subtle clues criminals miss.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Debrief in conversation with Neil Harbisson who explains how he turned a disability into a superpower by implanting an antenna into his skull to “hear” colour. From becoming the world’s first legally recognised cyborg to identity, technology, and the future of our senses Neil explains all.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Explorer and adventurer Charlie Walker shares his experiences with Dane and Sana. 15 years, covering 60,000 miles by food, horse, bicycle, ski, kayak and dugout canoe. Charlie tells how he builds trust with local communities along the way.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Former McLaren Formula 1 race mechanic Marc Priestley shares the insights from his amazing career with the Debrief as well as working alongside racing champions like Lewis Hamilton and Kimi Räikkönen.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Real life water sommelier Timmo Bausch joins the Debrief in studio to explain exactly what is involved in testing waters from around the world, even telling Dane and Sana some companies book him to do water tasting with their employees for fun.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On The Debrief, Dane speaks with Dubai-based trainer Nikola Aleksic, who’s taking on a 100km run across the city to raise awareness for rare autoimmune diseases. Battling Behcet’s disease himself, Nikola shares what drives him and the challenges he faces along the way.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dane speaks to Ashy Dykes, a Welsh adventurer and extreme athlete that hold world records that include trekking alone across Mongolia and even hiking the full length of Madagascar. But Ash tells the Debrief what it really takes when it comes mindset and how he even came close to death thanks to bears and wolves along the way.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Communication expert Julian Treasure joins the Debrief to talk about not only being a good communicator but how to be an even better listen. Julian tells Dane and Sana that $10 trillion is lost annually due to miscommunication... so what can he teach us?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Debrief in conversation with the world's deepest freediver, William Trubridge is an 18 time record breaker, 6 time world champion and the first person to ever dive 100 metres unassisted.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jason Walsh joins the Debrief, the celebrity personal trainer who has worked with clients like Matt Damon, Pedro Pascale and even Bradley Cooper. He helps his clients get do extreme body transformations to reach their goals for the next big movie.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dane and Sana are joined on the Debrief by Alex Staniforth, someone who is a true definition of resilience. Alex shares his struggles from early life than has shaped him into the adventurer that he is today.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We explore the world of magic. Magician Ben Seidman explains how he entered this fascinating industry and how he managed to land a role training acting legends like Morgan Freeman in a Hollywood movie.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dane and Sana dig deep into the world of special effects make up, hair and prosthetics within film and TV. The Debrief hear from industry expert Erika Okvist who has won 2 Emmys, a Bafta and multiple awards for amazing work as a hair and makeup designer.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Debrief are joined by Jamil Qureshi is an expert in high performance psychology who has worked with 22 out of the world's top golfers, F1 drivers and even huge global companies. Dane and Sana find out what it's like to try made these already success people change their mindset to achieve even more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dane and Sana speak with Leon Otremba who gained 20cm in height after having two excruciating surgeries to make him taller. The Debrief discuss what is involved in this operation and what they think is OK when it comes to surgeries to enhance your look.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Domain expert Munir Badr joins the Debrief to give all insights into the domain industry. Dane and Sana find out if they are too late to cash in on any domain investments.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Debrief speak with Jake Meyers a British mountaineer and adventurer, in 2005 aged just 21 he became the youngest man in the world to climb the Seven Summits. Dane, Sana and Jake discussed the latest announcement from Nepal that inexperienced climbers will be allowed to climb Everest.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Debrief catch up with Craig Ferguson, the Scotsman currently trekking 3,000 miles across the U.S to reach Boston for Scotlands first game at the 2026 Fifa World Cup all to raise awareness for mental health.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.