The Deep Water Show

What does it look like to be 80 years old, still making snow angels, still booking zip lines … still choosing joy when the world has told you you're wrong for it?In this episode, Jackie sits down with her mom, Carol, for a conversation that starts at the surface and doesn't stay there. What looks like lightheartedness from the outside turns out to have been hard-won … tested by a husband's near-fatal heart attack, by seasons of real loss, and by the quiet cost of refusing to be bitter when the people around you needed you to be.They talk about what it costs to stay joyful when people can't understand it … about cleaning as a spiritual practice and why a made bed matters more than you think … and about the kind of faith that doesn't explain itself. It just holds.If you've ever been told you're not being realistic … if you're somewhere in the middle of something hard and trying to figure out how to breathe … this one's for you.Proverbs 3. Trust in the Lord. Carpe diem.

What if the fear you're feeling isn't a reason to stop … but a sign that what's in front of you actually matters?In this honest, vulnerable conversation, Jackie and Christi unpack the quiet, subtle ways fear shows up when God is calling you into something meaningful. From writing books to living faithfully in the ordinary moments of everyday life, they sit with the tension between hesitation and obedience … and why fear so often walks hand-in-hand with calling.This week on The Deep Water Show, they're exploring:Why fear doesn't disqualify you … it invites you. The difference between waiting for clarity and avoiding obedience. How self-sabotage and distraction quietly keep us stuck. What it really means to collaborate with God. The power of small, daily yeses. And a fresh look at Mary's yes … and why it wasn't guaranteed.If you've been waiting until you feel ready, this conversation will gently challenge that idea. And remind you that God is already with you in the middle of it.Scripture referenced: 1 Corinthians 2:3 and John 3:21You don't have to eliminate fear to move forward. You just have to recognize it … and respond anyway.

Are women really “the emotional ones” and men “the logical ones”? Or is that just an easy excuse we’ve all learned to use?In this episode of Deep Water, Jackie and Christi wade into the real conversation about emotions — why God gave them to us, why we struggle with them, and why maturity isn’t about shutting feelings down but learning what to do with them.Together they explore:• Why emotions are a human experience, not just a gender stereotype• The difference between feeling something and being ruled by it• How emotional awareness leads to spiritual maturity• Why self-control (yes, the Fruit of the Spirit) is the bridge between logic and emotion• And the hard question: Are we excusing emotional immaturity as “just how I’m wired”?Feelings aren’t the enemy. But discipleship means learning how to hold emotion and wisdom in the same place.Because in the Deep Water life, it’s not about denying what we feel — it’s about letting the Spirit shape how we respond.🎧 Listen in and join the conversation.

What do you do when you’re standing in front of multiple good choices … and you’re afraid of picking the wrong one?In this episode of Deep Water, Jackie and Christi dive into the tension many of us feel when facing life’s crossroads. We often pray for clarity — one obvious door, one obvious answer. But what happens when there are several good options in front of us?Is there really only one “right” choice?Together they explore how fear of making the wrong decision can quietly paralyze us, keeping us standing on the welcome mat instead of stepping forward in faith. They talk about the subtle role of pride and false humility in decision-making, the freedom that comes from trusting God’s sovereignty, and the beautiful truth that we are not powerful enough to derail God’s plans.From Joshua’s challenge to “choose this day whom you will serve,” to the promise that “the Lord establishes our steps,” this conversation reminds us that the real question may not be which door is perfect, but whether we trust the One waiting on the other side.Because when God is the keeper of our steps, we don’t have to live paralyzed by fear—we can simply turn the knob and walk forward with Him.In this episode:Why fear can keep us from stepping through life’s open doorsThe difference between God’s perfect will and His permissive willPride, false humility, and the pressure to make the “perfect” choiceHow God redeems even our misstepsLearning to trust the One who walks with us beyond the doorIf you’ve ever felt stuck between good options or afraid of making the wrong decision, this episode will encourage you to step forward in faith.Subscribe for more conversations about faith, everyday life, and encountering God in the ebb and flow of it all.

For women who have built lives on responsibility, productivity, and being needed, slowing down can feel less like rest and more like exposure.In this honest and vulnerable conversation, Jackie and Christi talk about midlife transitions, empty nest emotions, performance-driven identity, and the deep question beneath it all:Do I believe God delights in me apart from my usefulness?With wisdom, humor, and a few “wow” moments, they explore abiding in Christ, Sabbath as a gift, and the freedom to root your identity in who you are — not what you do.If you’re navigating a new season and asking, “What now?” — this episode will meet you right there.

What if the girl you were wasn’t a mistake?In this episode, Christi and Jackie sit down in breezy Florida (curly hair and all) to talk about seasons, pivot points, maturity, trauma, counseling, and the beautiful permission to grow again.Together, they explore:Why women tend to measure life in “seasons”How to celebrate who you were without camping thereWhat it means to grow “from scratch”How to find gratitude even in significant traumaThe difference between God’s perfect will and permissive willWhy maturity is a gift — not a griefHow hindsight reveals the goodness of GodFrom the story of Joseph (Genesis 50:20) to the promise of Proverbs 4:18, this conversation reminds us that the path of the righteous shines brighter and brighter until full day.You are not pre-measured.You are not finished.You are not behind.You get to grow again.Whether you’re 30, 40, 55, or standing at a fresh pivot point, this episode invites you to look back with gratitude and forward with expectancy.✨ The light is still getting brighter.Subscribe for weekly conversations about faith, maturity, identity, and encountering God in the ebb and flow of everyday life.

Valentine’s Day is everywhere — roses, chocolates, candlelit dinners, and price tags that make you wince. But beneath all the Hallmark sparkle, there’s a deeper question tugging at the heart:Is money a way to express love … or has it quietly replaced it?In this episode of The Deep Water Show, Jackie and Christi sit down — construction noise, coffee mugs, and all — to talk honestly about love, money, and the subtle ways the two get tangled. From crab-leg Valentine’s dinners to celebrity tents, from seasons of financial abundance to seasons of having “no two cents to rub together,” they explore what money cando… and what it absolutely cannot.Together, they reflect on:Why we confuse spending with lovingHow money becomes transactional instead of relationalThe danger of letting provision turn into an idolWhat Scripture says about contentment, trust, and true provisionWhy some of our most peaceful seasons had nothing to do with wealthThis is a conversation about the Lover of our souls, the God who provides daily manna — not excess, not stockpiles, but enough. Especially fitting as we head into Valentine’s Day, it’s an invitation to examine where we’re placing our trust, our hope, and our sense of worth.Pull up a chair. Pour the coffee.Let’s talk about the kind of love money can’t buy.

What if your word for the year wasn’t another goal to achieve, but a gentle rudder to guide you?In this episode of The Deep Water Show, Jackie and Christi settle in (one by a fireplace, one in “Florida cold”) and talk about the spiritual practice of choosing a word — or posture — for the year ahead. Together, they explore threshold moments, holy pauses, and what it means to live from abiding rather than striving.Jackie shares how the unexpected word Hezekiah led her into a year of cleaning and rebuilding ... of tending the temple rather than rushing ahead. Christi reflects on her phrase, Threshold Moments, and the courage it takes to walk through doors God opens … and sometimes to stand still in confidence when others don’t understand your pace.This conversation is for anyone who:Feels pressure to “get it right” spirituallyWonders if God is quiet (or simply whispering)Is learning, later in life, that they have permission to take up spaceLongs for guidance without performance or comparison✨ Your word is not a measuring stick.✨ Your stillness is not failure.✨ God has not forgotten you. Even in the silence.Pull up a chair. Take a breath. And let this be a conversation that meets you right where you are.