Episodes
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Kirk Cousins Is BACK!
It's a trade deadline news spectacular! Can anyone stop those crazy Jaguars? The Chargers are winless but refuse to sell at the deadline. Why? The Vikings got Kirk! Credits Hosts: Drew Magary & Arif Hasan Producer: Brandon Grugle, Multitude Editor: Mischa Stanton, Multitude Voiceover: Eli Yudin…
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Which Team Is The Saddest?
It's time for another round of everyone's favorite game! Will it be: The Jets, who aggressively ran out the clock on themselves at home against the Raiders, cementing their third straight loss? The Cowboys, who just choked twice in the same game to 2018’s Gardner Minshew and the Cardinals? The…
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The Worst Undefeated Team In A Century
The Vikings are the last unbeaten NFL team. Are they frauds? They have the top scoring defense in the league, but their offense has scored four total TDs in the last five games. How is that possible? Credits Hosts: Drew Magary & Arif Hasan Producer: Brandon Grugle, Multitude Editor: Mischa…
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Who's Responsible For The Ongoing Jalen Hurts Fiasco?
Is Troy Aikman out at Monday Night Football, and how does that relate to the Rams horrible 2-4 start? Is Carlie Irsay-Gordon proving to be a worse owner than her dad? And who is responsible for the ongoing Jalen Hurts fiasco? Credits Hosts: Drew Magary & Arif Hasan Producer: Brandon Grugle,...
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Justice For Husky Kickers!
Holy sh*t, that Commanders/Giants ending! Holy sh*t, that Eagles/Jags ending! Credits Hosts: Drew Magary & Arif Hasan Producer: Brandon Grugle, Multitude Editor: Mischa Stanton, Multitude Voiceover: Eli Yudin Ads & Production Services: Multitude Subscribe to Defector! Subscribe to Wide Left!…
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Legally Distinct Throwgasms
The Eagles stink! Is it time for Nick Sirianni to get the boot? And how does one even print on 11x17 card stock? Happy Birthdays, Drew and Arif! Credits Hosts: Drew Magary & Arif Hasan Producer: Brandon Grugle, Multitude Editor: Mischa Stanton, Multitude Voiceover: Eli Yudin Ads & Production...
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Not Two Total Dipshits! Yet!
Drake Maye stinks! Giants trade for J.J. McCarthy! Doesn’t Case Keenum deserve to keep his job? (kidding not kidding) Credits Hosts: Drew Magary & Arif Hasan Producer: Brandon Grugle, Multitude Editor: Mischa Stanton, Multitude Voiceover: Eli Yudin Ads & Production Services: Multitude Subscribe…
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How One Trick Play Tells The History Of Football
Last year, Josh Levin's grandfather told him about a college football game he saw in person all the way back in 1944. That game featured a play so bizarre that he remembered it for more than 80 years. After that conversation, Levin set out to learn as much as he could about what really happened...
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The Justin Herbert Experiment is Over
Are the 49ers the best team in football? Are the Falcons the worst team in football? Could this show be better? Let's talk about it. Segments 00:02:52 – Mailbag 00:26:15 – Thursday Night 00:33:59 – Sunday Afternoon 01:52:01 – Sunday Night 01:56:55 – Monday Night 02:01:13 – Credits Credits Hosts:...
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A Stoppable Force vs a Movable Object
Our first episode went smoothly, but we have some postgame adjustments we need to make: Drew said last week that he’d put ALL of the homerism away for this show, but that’s not fun. So he's gonna give himself a little bit, especially after the Vikings kicked the shit out of Green Bay on Sunday!...
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Every Week 1 Matchup
It's the start of the season, which can only mean one thing: Drew and Arif pick every single week one matchup. Sponsors Quince: download the Quince app for app-exclusive offers, and get free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Blueland: get 15% off your first order Raycon: get 20% off…
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All Ball, the Defector Media NFL Podcast
No fantasy talk, no gambling advice, no other nerd shit. Starring Drew Magary and Arif Hasan, just two pure ball knowers who only want to talk about one thing… FOOTBALL. Kicking off September 10th on all podcast services.
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The Final Distraction with Tim Marchman
This is it. Thanks for so many great years. Stuff We Talked About Deadcast trivia Buzz Bissinger’s spurs Big Daddy Balls A rare guy remembering moment Me, ape-ish Mashups! The formal event on a sex boat Baseball yarmulkes Sponsors - Blueland, where you can get 15% off your first order Credits -...
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A Proven Placebo That Gets Results
Special announcement: Rohan is not here. But Drew and Roth do actually have an important announcement. Stuff We Talked About Masochistic tendencies The Cyber-Christ Complex Other people’s dogs Non-fungible podcasts Credits - Hosts: Drew Magary & David Roth - Producer: Brandon Grugle, Multitude -...
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Tee-Hee Ha-Ha Reparations Now Motherf*cker Energy with Justin Ellis
Fellow Defector Justin Ellis joins Drew and Roth! They talk about his upcoming book, The Cruelty of Nice Folks: Why Minneapolis Is the Story of America, and how Justin thinks it relates to the latest primaries. But first, Drew’s got a good old fashioned rant he needs to get off his chest. Then,...
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A Tale of Two Sandwiches with Rohan Nadkarni
Rohan’s back! Him and Drew both have a sandwich story of woe that simply needs to be told. But, more importantly, Giannis is a Heat! Is Rohan excited? Also, the Dodgers just traded for Tigers ace Tarik Skubal. Why do the Dodgers hate baseball? Finally, they open up the funbag to figure out which...
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Roller Skating Fully Nude into the Game
We’re deep in the summer, and that means a Drew and Roth solo episode! Drew is beaming in directly from his vacation, and Roth has some shit to shoot. After, they get to sports, like LeBron’s new commute, Tony Romo’s fresh DUI, and Sophie Cunningham’s deranged self-deflection. And Ross Douthat is...
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The Boorish Manners of a Yale-y with Paul Tremblay
Drew and Roth are joined by acclaimed horror novelist Paul Tremblay! Not only does Paul have a new book out, Dead but Dreaming of Electric Sheep, but he’s also now a certified cancer survivor. He’s also sued OpenAI, used to teach BC calculus, and is a huge Boston sports fan. They talk about all…
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What If We Tried To Win? with Justin Halpern
Justin Halpern (writer/producer, Abbott Elementary, Sh*t My Dad Says) has a new book, Get Lost, and he here’s to talk about how he wrote it with Drew and Roth. But first, Roth and Justin must commiserate about the Mets, and Drew gets recognized on the beach. Then, they open up the funbag to…
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We Americans Know Better with Diana Moskovitz & Dave McKenna
Drew has finally vanquished Roth, so fellow Defectors Diana Moskovitz and Dave McKenna are on the show! First, World Cup – who’s rooting for who? Are either of them for it coming ‘ome to England? How expensive are these tickets exactly?! Then, they open up the fun bag to answer real questions…
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Give the Lobster a Knife
It’s summer vacation season, and that means a classic Drew and Roth solo episode. Many digressions ensue, then they open up the funbag to answer real questions from real listeners, like: what’s the wildest thing they’ve done while intoxicated? and what’s the most disgusting raw food? Happy…
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The Last Refuge of Scoundrels with Kelsey McKinney & Alex Sujong Laughlin
Kelsey is here! Drew is not! Alex Sujong Laughlin is also here to discuss the new season of Try Hard, the first episode of which just came out last week. Alex has written some really good and really scathing stuff about the scourge of The Video Podcast—how is she trying to make this one different...
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Sports! (The Human Spirit) with Ray Ratto
Ray Ratto joins Drew and Roth to talk about two cups, Stanley and World. But first, on a scale of Not Very to Maybe A Little, how happy is Ray for New Yorkers right now? Then, because Drew does not watch nor care about either the Vegas Golden Knights or the Carolina Hurricanes, he asks Ray – was…
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The Provenance of the Lobster with Giri Nathan
Defector’s resident Knicks fan, Giri Nathan, joins Drew and Roth this week! After dropping Game 3, how is Giri feeling about his team? The series seems to hinge on whether or not Victor Wembanyama is dialed in. Why has his play in this series been so inconsistent? And why has the reffing been so...
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Don’t Tell Anyone How I Live with Leander Schaerlaeckens
Leander Shaerlaeckens (author of the book The Long Game: U.S. Men's Soccer and Its Savage, Four-Decade Journey to the Top, or Thereabouts) joins the show for a World Cup preview! We’ll get the skinny on the unique challenge that is hosting a soccer championship in Donald Trump’s America, and how...
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A Larry David Look-a-like with David Grann
Drew and Roth are joined by David Grann, bestselling author of The Wager, Killers of the Flower Moon, and other precious tomes, and staff writer at The New Yorker! And, better yet, the Knicks made the finals for the first time since 1999! Is this the best Knicks team of David’s lifetime? And what...
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You Can’t Zarf Someone in Pips with Ian Livengood
Drew and Roth are joined by Ian Livengood, an NYT puzzle editor who works on Pips (Drew’s true joy) and the Midi! Ian shares behind-the-scenes info on how puzzles are constructed, edited, and sent out to solvers. Then, they all give their takes on the NBA finals as they stand. And finally, they...
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Look at What They Done Been Through with Patrick Redford
It’s time to get serious about the NBA playoffs, so Drew and Roth welcome fellow Defector and host of Nothing But Respect and Only If You Get Caught Patrick Reford to the show! They start in the West with the Spurs and Timberwolves, then head to the East where the Knicks swept the Sixers. Are the...
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Introducing: No Such Thing
We’re excited to share a preview of a new podcast we think you’d enjoy: No Such Thing No Such Thing is a show where three best friends and journalists settle their dumb arguments — and yours — by actually doing the research. Hosts Manny Fidel, Noah Friedman, and Devan Joseph start each episode…
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Shodders For The Cup with Lauren Theisen
Defector’s chief hockey officer Lauren Theisen is back! Drew and Roth ask her how it’s possible that the Sabres hadn’t made the playoffs in 14 years. Also, Drew bought a Quinn Hughes jersey while stoned – was that a bad purchase? Then, they move to the NBA. Will we actually see the Knicks in the...
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Eating a Super Soaker with a Knife & Fork
It’s a classic Drew and Roth solo joint, and they’re finally talking about currently ongoing sports instead of indulging Drew’s NFL fetish. Is there any reason to believe that this Knicks postseason won’t end the exact same way every Knicks postseason has ended the past few years? Then, it’s time...
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My Car Died In Worcester with Aaron Schatz
Drew and Roth are joined, for the first time ever, by Aaron Schatz, Chief Analytics Officer at FTN Fantasy, ESPN NFL writer, and founder of Football Outsiders! Football data companies are being screwed over by venture capital and aligning with gambling interests. How does Aaron feel about this...
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Blame It On Pazuzu with Mike Schur
Mike Schur is back, and we’re talking baseball! The MLB has rolled out its automated ball strike challenge system, but how do Mike and Roth feel about it? Will they trash CB Buckner for having six of his six strike calls overturned? Then, Roth must face the reality of his Mets being in last…
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The Largest Man On The Beach with Ed Zitron
Ed Zitron is back on the show, because it’s been too long since he last came on to yell at us about AI. And there’s a lot to yell about! To kick it off, we get the latest on the Big AI Companies, and the seriously unethical house of cards they’ve built for all of us. Other than the ones Anthropic...
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Bad Baseball Grannies with Kelsey McKinney
Drew is off frolicking on another continent, so it’s time to talk about baseball! Kelsey is back with Roth to swap their first ballpark stories of the 2026 season. Of course, there’s lots of new things to grab your attention at a baseball game this year - especially if you happen to know a guy at...
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My Best Reply Guys with Emma Baccellieri
Emma Baccellieri (Sports Illustrated) is back, and with a new book! Drew and Roth ask her about her writing process, and how she worked with co-author Jordan Robinson. Then, they talk Emma’s women’s Sweet Sixteen bracket and WNBA players’ collective bargaining. Finally, it’s Emma’s Soda Minute…
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A Never-Ending Math Orgy with Ken Pomeroy
Happy March Madness! As always, Drew and Roth are joined by Ken Pomeroy of KenPom.com to talk about the men’s bracket. Is Ken’s insight still the gold standard, or are AI rankings coming for his job? Do the top seeds all look ready to bloom on schedule, or is one of them obviously the cream of…
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A Hot Sauce Faceprint on the Hotel Door with Rohan Nadkarni
Rohan, of NBC News and sandwich fame, is back! He fills Drew and Roth in on his Italian Olympic experience, including, most importantly, his favorite meals. Rohan, like the rest of us, was bowled over by ice dancing, and by how Italians eat Italian food every day. Then, they talk Miami’s new QB,...
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I Was Born in the Cutty Sark with Spencer Hall
Spencer Hall of Channel 6 joins Drew and Roth to talk college football! But first they have to figure out whether college sports as a whole are poised to go extinct, or if that rhetoric is actually just schools fighting for money. Then, they open up the funbag to answer questions from listeners,...
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Digest It As It Comes In with Tom Ley
Roth “got stranded by the blizzard,” so Tom Ley, Editor-In-Chief at Defector, is here! Drew and Tom debate whether this was the best winter Olympics in their lifetime, then Tom decides whether each of Adam Silver’s proposed NBA rule changes makes sense or not. Finally, they share what’s upcoming...
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A Good Set of Stones with John Cullen
Drew and Roth are joined by comedian, podcaster, and curling professional and expert John Cullen! His new book, Curling Rocks!: Chronicles of the Roaring Game, is out now. They talk all things curling, from Broomgate to Boopgate. Plus: are curling shoes as fun to wear as they look (yes), can John...
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A Well-Rounded Apple Dome with Kathryn Xu
Drew and Roth are joined by Kathryn Xu (Defector) to talk dogs! Kathryn covered the Westminster Dog Show, and it was a lovely, fluffy, yappy experience. Did her favorite, Aslan the Pomeranian, come out on top? Then, they talk Figure Skating and Olympic infidelity. Finally, they open the funbag to...
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A Difference of Degree and in Kind
We remember Dan McQuade. Do you want to hear your question answered on the pod? Well, give us a call at 909-726-3720. That is 909-PANERA-0! Stuff We Talked About Lone Wolf McQuade American malls Baywatch Sneakers Knight Rider Being jumbotron-worthy Sponsors - Blueland, where you can get 15% off...
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The Italian Word for Waluigi with Rohan Nadkarni
Rohan is back! And promising future Italian sandwich talk, because he’s going to Milan to cover the Olympics. Drew and Roth talk with him about his Italian food plans, the situation in Minneapolis, the Dolphins, and the saddest new coaching hire of this cycle. Then, they open up the funbag to...
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Born Aloft on a Cloud of Dad Energy with Patrick Wyman
Drew and Roth are joined by Patrick Wyman, author of the upcoming book Lost Worlds: How Humans Tried, Failed, Succeeded, and Built Our World and creator and host of the new podcast Past Lives! They ask Patrick how our present compares to the past, and why everyone in the White House has terrible...
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Nein Mayonnaisen! with Arif Hasan
Drew and Roth are joined by Arif Hasan, CEO and Chief Writer of Wide Left, to preview the divisional playoff games! But first, because Arif lives in Minnesota, he shares his experiences on the ground from recent weeks. And of course, they’ll crack open the Funbag to answer real questions from…
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Italian-American Inspirational Magic with Kalyn Kahler
Drew and Roth ring in the new year with Kalyn Kahler, and go long about the NFL post-season. First and foremost, what the hell is going on with the Raiders? Has Tom Brady been an awful shadow president for the team? And then, to the Playoffs: How is Kalyn liking the Bears’ chances? What would be...
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It’ll Work Itself Out In No Time
Drew and Roth reflect on their years, personally, professionally, and politically, and look forward to 2026 being, if not better, then maybe just a little more consistent. Then, they open the funbag to answer real questions from real listeners. Thank you for listening for another year! Do you…
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Williams Sonoma Price Is Right 2025! with Matt Selman
It’s the most magical time of the year once again! Drew brings Roth and guest Matt Selman, The Simpsons EP and Showrunner, a list of Williams Sonoma’s finest – who is more in tune with the everyman consumer? Does anyone need a $350 Porsche-branded Smeg toaster? No. Do you want to hear your…
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Bad For Your Heart, Bad For Your Soul with Matthew Coller
Drew and Roth are joined by Purple Insider’s Matthew Coller to talk football as the NFL season heats up. In this brand new world where K-balls are changing the entire game, how do we even tell if a player or a team is good at all? Are the Cowboys actually any good? The Broncos? The Patriots? Is...