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The Elephant in the Algorithm

by Average Robot

A conversation with leaders about what AI is doing inside organizations, and what it means for the people doing the work. Matt Perry and Rob Cannon, PhD talk with leaders about where AI is paying off, where it is producing activity and cost instead, and what it takes to bring people, strategy and customers back into one line. The conversation centers on the people and the work around the technology.

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Episodes

  1. The Human Skills AI Can't Replace

    Eran Thomson spent his career in advertising, from copywriter to creative director at agencies including BBH and TBWA, and co-founded a Sydney agency that sold in 2014. Then he built PowerProv, which uses the fundamentals of improvisation to teach business teams the things nobody else teaches…

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  2. The People Behind the Platform

    AI transformation gets sold as a technology upgrade. It isn't. In Episode 3, Matt Perry and Rob Cannon, PhD sit down with Jennifer Erfurth, a four-time Chief People Officer who most recently led the AI transformation at Opswat, on why the hard part of AI is never the tooling. It's the people. Why...

  3. Mentorship in the Age of AI

    The people who taught you the job were never just handing you answers. In Episode 2, Matt Perry and Rob Cannon, PhD sit down with Janette O'Neill, an executive-level People and Transformation leader with 30 years of experience, on what happens to judgement, mentorship and tacit knowledge when the...

  4. The Human at the Heart

    Everyone is staring at the technology. We watch the people doing the work, because that is where AI at work is won or lost. In Episode 1, Matt Perry and Rob Cannon, PhD unpack why the AI jobs panic points at the wrong target: what the machines genuinely can't do, why the industry's sharpest…

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ABOUT THIS SHOW

A conversation with leaders about what AI is doing inside organizations, and what it means for the people doing the work. Matt Perry and Rob Cannon, PhD talk with leaders about where AI is paying off, where it is producing activity and cost instead, and what it takes to bring people, strategy and customers back into one line. The conversation centers on the people and the work around the technology.

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A conversation with leaders about what AI is doing inside organizations, and what it means for the people doing the work. Matt Perry and Rob Cannon, PhD talk with leaders about where AI is paying off, where it is producing activity and cost instead, and what it takes to bring people, strategy and...

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