The Emergent Order Podcast
by Emergent Order Foundation
Will the future be planned by experts, or will it emerge spontaneously? Filmmaker and entrepreneur John Papola explores the hidden complexity behind emerging trends in business, culture, and technology with leading experts and innovators.
Episodes
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How Congress Really Works with Justin Amash
The Emergent Order Podcast On this episode of the podcast, John Papola has a conversation with his friend Congressman Justin Amash. Justin is a lawyer and politician who has served as a U.S. Representative of Michigan. Papola and Amash dive into the inner workings of Congress, through the lens of...
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From Silicon Valley to Economics Academia with David Thomas
On this episode of The Emergent Order Podcast, John Papola has a conversation with Dr. David Thomas. David is an economist and professor with the research area of public health economics and business cycles. He is also a serial entrepreneur. John and David talk about a wide variety of topics as...
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Exploring Sweden’s Lessons for America with Johan Norberg
The Emergent Order Podcast On this episode of The Emergent Order Podcast, John Papola chats with Johan Norberg. Johan is an author and lecturer with expertise in entrepreneurship, global trends, and globalization around the world. Papola and Norberg examine a common question asked in America:...
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Macroeconomics Roundtable
The Emergent Order Podcast Macroeconomics Roundtable, with George Selgin, James McClure, Steve Horwitz, Lars Christensen, and Scott Sumner On today’s episode of the podcast, John Papola welcomes George Selgin, James McClure, Steve Horwitz, Lars Christensen, and Scott Sumner for a long and winding...
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Not Taking Serious Topics Too Seriously with Lou Perez
On today’s episode of the Emergent Order Podcast, John Papola has a conversation with Lou Perez. Lou is the hilarious Head Writer and Producer of We The Internet TV, a stand up comedian, and part of the comedy duo Greg and Lou. Papola and Perez talk about the craft of being funny, with a…
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A Market Approach to Better Food with Bruce Friedrich
On this episode of the podcast John Papola speaks with the Co-Founder and Executive Director of the Good Food Institute, Bruce Friedrich. Bruce is also a TED Fellow whose TED 2019 Talk has been viewed millions of times. The two discuss Friedrich’s journey to founding the Good Food Institute, and...
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Communicating Big Ideas Through Comedy with Andrew Heaton
The Emergent Order Podcast Communicating Big Ideas Through Comedy with Andrew Heaton On this episode of the podcast, Papola has a conversation with Andrew Heaton. Andrew is a comedian, author, and political satirist. He hosts his own podcast called The Political Orphanage which is about comedy…
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Inside The Utopia Experiment With Dylan Evans
The Emergent Order Podcast Inside The Utopia Experiment With Dylan Evans On today’s episode of the podcast, John has a conversation with Dylan Evans. Dylan is a technologist, futurist, AI expert, and the author of The Utopia Experiment. His book chronicles the true story of Dylan conducting an...
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The Intersection of Social Justice and Liberty with Steven Horwitz
The Emergent Order Podcast On this episode host John Papola has a long and winding conversation with Steven Horwitz. Steven is an author and economics professor at Ball State University. He has written extensively on Hayek and Austrian economics, monetary theory and history, and American economic...
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Exploring Open Borders with Bryan Caplan
On today’s episode of the podcast, John Papola interviews Professor of Economics at George Mason University and New York Times Bestselling author, Bryan Caplan. Caplan’s bestseller is a graphic novel called Open Borders, which Papola is currently in the process of adapting into a film. The two...
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The Stories We Tell in a Crisis
On this episode of the podcast, host John Papola goes solo for his first ever YouTube livestream to have a conversation with his viewers. He spans many topics including the origins of Emergent Order, his time at Spike TV, storytelling, and why he’s obsessed with all things Apple....
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The Coddling of the American Mind with Greg Lukianoff
On this episode of the podcast John Papola speaks with Greg Lukianoff. Greg is the President and CEO of the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education, or FIRE. He is also an author, and co-authored the book The Coddling of the American Mind (based on the article of the same name). Papola and...
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Rational Optimism in the age of COVID-19 with Matt Ridley
On this episode of the podcast John Papola has a conversation with Lord Matt Ridley. Matt is an author of books, columns, reviews, articles, and blogs. His book The Rational Optimist was particularly influential on Papola’s worldview. The two talk about the perspective of the rational optimist...
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Money and Macroeconomics in a Crisis with Scott Sumner
This podcast episode features a long and winding conversation between John Papola and Scott Sumner. Scott is an economist, the Director of the Program on Monetary Policy at the Mercatus Center at George Mason University, and the author of popular economics blog The Money Illusion. The two take a...
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Happiness and the Culture of Contempt with Arthur Brooks
Today’s episode of the podcast features a conversation between John Papola and his good friend Arthur Brooks. Arthur, an author and social scientist, was formerly the president of the American Enterprise Institute. He is now a professor at Harvard. Arthur Brooks was also the subject and star of...
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Incubating a Startup Ecosystem with Sean Sheppard
On today’s episode of the podcast, John has a conversation with a serial entrepreneur VC named Sean Sheppard, who is currently the Co-founder of GrowthX and GrowthX Academy. He is also the lead instructor at the latter. Sean’s storied career in tech makes for an insightful conversation with…
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Why Kids Need to be Free to Learn with Peter Gray
This episode features a conversation between John Papola and Peter Gray, who is an evolutionary psychologist and research professor of psychology at Boston College. Gray is well-known for his book Free to Learn in which he argues that we must trust children to guide their own learning and...
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An intro to Ayn Rand’s Philosophy with professor Tara Smith
On today’s episode John Papola has a long, philosophical conversation with Tara Smith, PhD. Professor Smith is a moral philosopher and philosophy professor at the University of Texas. She also holds the BB&T Chair for the Study of Objectivism. John and Tara dig into Objectivist philosophy, the...
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Exploring the Implications of Artificial Intelligence with Michael Kollo
This episode features a conversation between John Papola and Michael Kollo. Michael is a thinker, writer, and podcaster in the Artificial Intelligence space, hosting a show called “The Curious Quant”. The two discuss everything from economics to the morality of artificial intelligence. Kollo’s...
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Leading BB&T through the 2008 Financial Crisis with John Allison
On this episode John Papola has a conversation with former President and CEO of both BB&T and the CATO institute, John Allison. Allison’s time at the helm of BB&T included the 2008 financial crisis, in which the bank never saw a quarterly loss. The two discuss John Allison’s career in banking…
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The Art and Science of Soundtrack NY with John Kiehl
This episode is a conversation between John Papola and John Kiehl. Kiehl is a musician, arranger, and the co-founder of Soundtrack New York. Soundtrack is a legendary recording studio that has worked with esteemed directors such as Ron Howard and Martin Scorcece. The two discuss John Kiehl’s long...
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Debating the Nature of Capitalism with Professor Anwar Shaikh
On today’s episode John Papola talks to author, economist, and New School professor Anwar Shaikh. Anwar is a political economist whose work offers a synthesis of the economic analysis in Smith, Ricardo, Marx, and Keynes. He is also a well-known critic of neoclassical economics, particularly of…
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Into The Depths of Western Philosophy with David Theroux
On this episode, John Papola chats with Founder/President/CEO of the Independent Institute, David Theroux. David also founded the C.S. Lewis Society of California. The two collaborated on both seasons one and two of the web series “Love Gov”. John and David take a deep dive into the history and...
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Becoming a State Policy Wonk with Lynn Harsh
Today’s episode is a conversation between John Papola and Lynn Harsh, the Vice President of Strategy at the State Policy Network. Lynn is also a member of SPN’s Leadership and Development Initiative Team as well as the Creative and Strategic lead for the SPN Annual Meeting. She co-founded and was...
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Exploring Economics from Marx to Mises with Professor Peter J. Boettke
On today’s show John has a conversation with George Mason University Professor of Economics and Philosophy Peter J. Boettke. In George Mason’s Mercatus Center, Boettke holds the positions of Vice President of Advanced Study and Director of the F.A. Hayek Program for Advanced Study in Philosophy,...
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From Chaos to Quantum Computing with Whurley
On this episode Papola interviews his good friend William Hurley, or “Whurley” as he’s more commonly known. Whurley is a serial entrepreneur and multi-patent holding innovator who’s most recent work is Strangeworks a quantum computing company. Whurley and John talk through the many businesses...
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Growing Better Eggs as a Booming Business with Matt O'Hayer
On today’s episode of the podcast, John Papola talks to serial entrepreneur and founder of Vital Farms, Matt O’Hayer. Matt has started numerous businesses and today shares his entrepreneurial stories with John. The two also discuss conscious capitalism, responsible chicken farming, and universal...
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Letting Free Range Kids Go and Grow with Lenore Skenazy
On today’s podcast episode John Papola converses with journalist and founder of the Free Range Kids Movement, Lenore Skenazy. You might know better as “The World’s Worst Mom.” The two discuss The Free Range Kids Movement which Lenore started shortly after her breakout column “Why I Let My...
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Wiring the Internet with Bob Metcalfe
On today’s episode of the podcast John Papola has a conversation with UT professor of innovation, 3Com founder, co-inventor of ethernet, and the namesake of Metcalfe’s Law: Bob Metcalfe. The two dive into Metcalfe’s current career at the University of Texas as well as discuss his past experiences...
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From Dylan to Disney and Beyond with Jonathan Taplin
In this episode of the podcast, John Papola and Jon Taplin discuss philosophy, literature, and life lessons learned throughout Taplin’s extensive and varied career. Taplin has done everything from going on the road as a tour manager with Bob Dylan, to producing movies (including once being a key...
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Crossing Economic and Gender Divides with Deirdre McCloskey
On episode four our host, John Papola, speaks with author, academic, and historian Deirdre McCloskey. McCloskey describes herself as “a literary, quantitative, postmodern, free-market, progressive-Episcopalian, Midwestern woman from Boston who was once a man.” Needless to say, this is a very...
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Reinventing Education at Acton Academy with Jeff Sandefer
On episode three of the Emergent Order podcast, John interviews Jeff Sandefer, an oil industry veteran, entrepreneur and educator. Sandefer describes the personal and professional journey that led him to establish the nonprofit Acton Academy school network. In this episode we will also unpack...
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Building Whole Foods Market through Conscious Capitalism with John Mackey
On the second episode of the Emergent Order podcast, John Papola interviews entrepreneur, author, and Whole Foods CEO, John Mackey. Papola and Mackey discuss the evolution of Whole Foods Market, from its humble beginnings in Austin, TX to its current role in the Amazon corporate ecosystem. This...
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Teaching Economics through Rap Videos with Professor Russ Roberts
On the first episode of the Emergent Order podcast, John Papola interviews economist, author, and host of the EconTalk Podcast, Russ Roberts. John and Russ explore the story behind their first creative collaboration: Fear the Boom and Bust. This episode also includes an explanation of how the...
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Will the future be planned by experts, or will it emerge spontaneously from the bottom up? On the Emergent Order Podcast, filmmaker and entrepreneur John Papola explores the hidden complexity behind emerging trends in business, culture, and technology.
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Will the future be planned by experts, or will it emerge spontaneously? Filmmaker and entrepreneur John Papola explores the hidden complexity behind emerging trends in business, culture, and technology with leading experts and innovators.
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