PODCAST · business
The Enrichment Entrepreneur
by Dr. Arielle Hammond
You run a kids enrichment business: martial arts, music, gymnastics, swim, STEM, tutoring, camps, after-school, or something else entirely. There has never been a podcast built for you. Until now! The Enrichment Entrepreneur is hosted by Dr. Arielle Hammond, a former teacher and principal who built a 75-site enrichment company serving 1,300 kids (and still growing). Twice a week she sits down with fellow founders & experts for honest conversations about hiring, contracts, the hard seasons, and the wins. Come for the conversations. Stay for the community.
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21 | Lessons from 10 Conversations About Enrichment Businesses
After ten conversations with operators, founders, and industry experts, some of the biggest challenges in enrichment started looking a lot less unique. The same themes kept coming up: marketing that actually works, staffing and retention, growth ceilings, canceled programs, strategic partnerships, and building systems that can support long-term growth. In this episode, Dr. Arielle Hammond looks back at the lessons that challenged her assumptions and changed the way she thinks about running an enrichment business. Some reinforced decisions she was already making. Others led her back to the data, the drawing board, and a different way of approaching the problem. If one of these lessons resonates, share this episode with another enrichment operator who could use it.Episode Highlights00:00 From operating in a silo to learning from ten different perspectives04:12 Why free, local marketing often beats paid advertising08:47 What to do when your business hits a growth ceiling13:36 Serving customers at different levels of commitment18:54 The reputation cost of canceling programs24:18 Building a stronger instructor pipeline through intentional development29:42 Using partnerships to unlock new funding opportunities34:51 How better training can reduce turnover39:27 Lessons from operators who have built businesses that last44:03 The biggest takeaways from the first ten conversationsResources mentionedenrops: Dr. Arielle Hammond is building the all-in-one platform this industry has been missing. We’re talking scheduling, instructor management, and parent communication all in one place. I built it because we need it. Go to getenrops.com to get on the list.That's a wrap. If this episode gave you something — an idea, a laugh, a story — share it with one person who needs it. Leave us a five star review because it helps other enrichment entrepreneurs find this show. Got a question or a story worth telling? Head to https://www.getenrops.com/podcast— you can submit your questions, apply to be a guest, and access resources to help you launch and grow your business. Again, that's https://www.getenrops.com/podcast. Until next time — keep learning, keep building.
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20 | Building a Program Schools Actually Want with Jeff Kerestes
In this week's episode of The Enrichment Entrepreneur, Arielle is joined by Jeff Kerestes, founder and CEO of The Ukulele Project, a music education program now serving 25 schools across Portland and Vancouver. Jeff's path to entrepreneurship was anything but traditional, beginning with a career as a professional musician before a series of unexpected changes led him into the world of after-school enrichment. Along the way, he learned that great programming alone is not enough...schools need to want it, families need to value it, and the right partnerships need to be in place for a program to thrive. Arielle and Jeff share lessons from expanding into new locations, identifying which partnerships are worth pursuing, and understanding the difference between demand that pulls you forward and growth that has to be pushed uphill. They also discuss how curriculum, instructor support, and consistent delivery become increasingly important as a program grows. If you're building an enrichment business and trying to create something schools genuinely want, this conversation is worth a listen and if it resonates, share it with another operator who needs to hear it.Episode Highlights03:18 Finding product-market fit and building a program schools actively want06:09 Why the source of a referral matters more than most operators realize07:35 The role school and PTA support play in program success09:08 Lessons learned from expanding too quickly into new locations10:44 The hidden cost of canceled programs and losing customers permanently12:05 Why schools should be evaluated as carefully as instructors and staff20:18 Using play-based learning to increase engagement and skill development25:47 Building curriculum, training, and systems that support growth across multiple sitesResources mentioned- The Ukulele Project: www.theukuleleproject.com- Girls on the Run- Suzuki Method music education approach - enrops: Dr. Arielle Hammond is building the all-in-one platform this industry has been missing. We’re talking scheduling, instructor management, and parent communication all in one place. I built it because we need it. Go to getenrops.com to get on the list.Guest bioJeff Kerestes is the founder and CEO of The Ukulele Project, a music enrichment program serving schools across Portland and Vancouver. A professional musician by trade, Jeff built The Ukulele Project around a simple idea: music should be accessible, engaging, and fun. Through a game-based curriculum and a strong focus on confidence, creativity, and community, his programs help students develop musical skills while building a lifelong connection to music. Where to Find JeffYou can learn more about Jeff Kerestes and The Ukulele Project by visiting theukulelerroject.com. There, you'll find information about their school-based music programs, teaching approach, and opportunities for students to experience music through play, creativity, and community. You can also connect with Jeff on Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube at @theukuleleprojectonline. That's a wrap. If this episode gave you something — an idea, a laugh, a story — share it with one person who needs it. Leave us a five star review because it helps other enrichment entrepreneurs find this show. Got a question or a story worth telling? Head to getenrops.com/podcast — you can submit your questions, apply to be a guest, and access resources to help you launch and grow your business. Again, that's getenrops.com/podcast. Until next time — keep learning, keep building.
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19 | 5 Times I Felt Like Giving Up and What I Learned
There were multiple points in my journey as an enrichment entrepreneur where I seriously questioned whether I could keep going. Scheduling chaos, enrollment tracking, instructor management, payroll, parent communication, every time the business grew, the complexity grew with it. In this episode, I share five moments where my systems broke, the lessons I learned the hard way, and why I eventually realized the real problem wasn't me... it was the lack of tools built for our industry. If you've ever felt like you're spending more time holding things together than actually growing your business, this episode is for you.Learn more, access free resources, and connect with other operators at getenrops.com/podcast.Episode Highlights00:00 Five moments when I seriously considered walking away from the business01:00 The day a simple schedule turned into a spreadsheet with 20 columns11:15 Why families shouldn't have to guess the value of your programs18:45 The hidden cost of manually tracking enrollment across dozens of sites26:00 The moment I realized the business had outgrown my systems36:15 Why payroll and contractor management became my biggest operational headacheResources mentionedJoin the Enrichment Entrepreneur Community: getenrops.com/podcastenrops: Dr. Arielle Hammond is building the all-in-one platform this industry has been missing. We’re talking scheduling, instructor management, and parent communication all in one place. I built it because we need it. Go to getenrops.com to get on the list.That's a wrap. If this episode gave you something — an idea, a laugh, a story — share it with one person who needs it. Leave us a five star review because it helps other enrichment entrepreneurs find this show. Got a question or a story worth telling? Head to https://www.getenrops.com/podcast— you can submit your questions, apply to be a guest, and access resources to help you launch and grow your business. Again, that's https://www.getenrops.com/podcast. Until next time — keep learning, keep building.
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18 | Running Programs since 1985! Lessons in Longevity and Service-based Entrepreneurship with Jeannette Sermak-Proulx
One of the most effective growth strategies in kids enrichment isn't a new marketing tactic. It's picking up the phone. In this episode, Arielle is joined by Jeannette Sermak-Proulx, founder of Plaza Production One Mobile Dance Studio, to talk about how she built her business through relationships, consistency, and a commitment to serving families and schools. They discuss earning partnerships before the internet, bringing programs directly to children through a mobile model, hiring great instructors, and managing the cash flow challenges that come with enrichment programs. They also talk about what it takes to stay in business for decades in an industry where many operators don't make it past the first few years. If you're building an enrichment business, you'll find plenty of practical lessons in this conversation. Enjoying the conversation? Subscribe to The Enrichment Entrepreneur for more candid conversations with operators, founders, and industry leaders shaping the future of kids enrichment. For additional resources and community support, visit getenrops.com/podcastEpisode Highlights07:00 Why picking up the phone is still an unfair advantage in partnership development10:13 The branded cookie strategy that helps Jeannette stand out with school leaders15:21 Why Plaza Production One chose a mobile model instead of a traditional dance studio17:36 What it takes to stay in business for decades when most enrichment companies don't make it past five years26:49 Jeannette's hiring process for finding and retaining high-quality instructors33:16 Cash flow lessons every enrichment operator needs to understandResources mentioned- Plaza Production One Mobile Dance Studio: https://plazaproductionone.com- enrops: Dr. Arielle Hammond is building the all-in-one platform this industry has been missing. We’re talking scheduling, instructor management, and parent communication all in one place. I built it because we need it. Go to getenrops.com to get on the list.Guest bioJeannette Sermak-Proulx is the Founder and CEO of Plaza Production One Mobile Dance Studio. For decades, she has helped bring dance education directly to schools and communities through a mobile model designed to make the arts more accessible for children and families. Her work combines a passion for dance, relationship-centered leadership, and a commitment to creating meaningful opportunities for young people through enrichment programs. Where to Find JeannetteYou can learn more about Jeannette Sermak-Proulx and Plaza Production One Mobile Dance Studio by visiting plazaproductionone.com. There, you'll find information about their mobile dance programs, enrichment offerings, and ways to connect directly with Jeannette and her team. That's a wrap. If this episode gave you something — an idea, a laugh, a story — share it with one person who needs it. Leave us a five star review because it helps other enrichment entrepreneurs find this show. Got a question or a story worth telling? Head to getenrops.com/podcast — you can submit your questions, apply to be a guest, and access resources to help you launch and grow your business. Again, that's getenrops.com/podcast. Until next time — keep learning, keep building.
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17 | We Gotta Talk About Pricing
Most enrichment entrepreneurs don't have a pricing strategy. They have a number that felt right when they started and a lot of hope that it's still working. In this episode, Arielle breaks down why pricing feels so difficult in youth enrichment, the hidden costs most operators forget to include, and the simple framework she uses to determine whether a program is actually profitable. She also shares why competing against "free" programs creates a distorted market, what happens when you don't pay yourself, and how a five-minute conversation with another operator can be worth thousands of dollars. If you've ever wondered whether you're charging enough, this episode is for you. Episode Highlights00:00 Why So Many Enrichment Entrepreneurs Struggle With Pricing04:45 The Hidden Costs Most Operators Never Include10:50 Competing Against "Free" Programs in a Distorted Market17:50 The Pricing Formula: Cost, Margin, and Market Reality27:08 The Partner Pricing Problem Nobody Talks About35:35 Raising Prices Without Losing Trust43:13 Using Data Instead of Guesswork to Set Your RatesResources mentionedProgram Pricing Calculator and other free resources: getenrops.com/podcastenrops: Dr. Arielle Hammond is building the all-in-one platform this industry has been missing. We’re talking scheduling, instructor management, and parent communication all in one place. I built it because we need it. Go to getenrops.com to get on the list.That's a wrap. If this episode gave you something — an idea, a laugh, a story — share it with one person who needs it. Leave us a five star review because it helps other enrichment entrepreneurs find this show. Got a question or a story worth telling? Head to https://www.getenrops.com/podcast— you can submit your questions, apply to be a guest, and access resources to help you launch and grow your business. Again, that's https://www.getenrops.com/podcast. Until next time — keep learning, keep building.
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16 | Building a Low-Stakes Music Community for Kids with Seth Miller
Seth Miller didn’t set out to build a music school…he set out to recreate the feeling of community he found inside Portland’s jam circles and folk music spaces. In this episode of The Enrichment Entrepreneur, Seth shares how Portland Sound Academy is helping kids build confidence through low-pressure, collaborative music education instead of isolated practice and performance pressure. We talk about the power of “playing in the round,” why community-centered learning matters so much for young people, and what Seth learned transitioning from corporate software sales into enrichment entrepreneurship. Seth also opens up about becoming a father, bootstrapping a grassroots program, and the operational realities of building something meaningful from scratch. This conversation is a thoughtful look at what happens when enrichment programs prioritize connection, belonging, and confidence alongside skill-building.Subscribe to The Enrichment Entrepreneur for more conversations with founders, operators, and educators building the future of kids enrichment.Episode Highlights00:00 — Introducing Seth Miller and the vision behind Portland Sound Academy05:05 — Leaving corporate software sales to build a community-centered enrichment business10:57 — What low-pressure, collaborative music lessons look like for kids17:32 — Bootstrapping the business, scheduling instructors, and building systems from scratch24:15 — Why community and confidence matter just as much as musical skill-building32:18 — Lowering barriers to music education and helping kids learn together41:02 — Seth’s long-term vision for Portland Sound Academy and expanding into schools Resources mentioned- Nashville Number System- Old Town School of Folk Music- enrops: Dr. Arielle Hammond is building the all-in-one platform this industry has been missing. We’re talking scheduling, instructor management, and parent communication all in one place. I built it because we need it. Go to getenrops.com to get on the list.Guest bioSeth Miller is the founder of Portland Sound Academy, a community-centered music education program based in Portland, Oregon. Drawing inspiration from Chicago’s Old Town School of Folk Music and Portland’s collaborative jam culture, Seth is building low-pressure music learning environments where kids and adults can gain confidence, connection, and camaraderie through playing together. Before launching Portland Sound Academy, Seth worked in corporate HR software sales and operations. Where to Find SethYou can learn more about Seth Miller and Portland Sound Academy on Instagram at @portlandsoundacademy, or reach out directly through the Portland Sound Academy website for lessons, camps, and program information. You can also contact Seth directly at [email protected]'s a wrap. If this episode gave you something — an idea, a laugh, a story — share it with one person who needs it. Leave us a five star review because it helps other enrichment entrepreneurs find this show. Got a question or a story worth telling? Head to getenrops.com/podcast — you can submit your questions, apply to be a guest, and access resources to help you launch and grow your business. Again, that's getenrops.com/podcast. Until next time — keep learning, keep building.
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15 | The Enrichment Economy Is Changing. Are You Ready?
The enrichment industry is growing fast, but a lot of operators are still running their businesses through spreadsheets, disconnected tools, and systems that only make sense inside their own heads. In this episode, Arielle talks about the operational pressure quietly building underneath the industry right now…unstable enrollment cycles, inconsistent cash flow, rising complexity, and the long-term damage that canceled programs can create with families and school partners. She also shares why she believes many enrichment businesses become harder to manage as they grow instead of easier, and why “working harder” stops being a sustainable strategy at a certain scale. This conversation is less about marketing tactics and more about the infrastructure problems most operators are trying to solve behind the scenes every single week. If you have ever felt like your business depends too heavily on memory, manual processes, and constant problem solving just to stay afloat, this episode will probably feel very familiar.Subscribe to The Enrichment Entrepreneur wherever you listen to podcasts, and visit getenrops.com/podcast for tools, resources, and conversations built for operators navigating the real complexity of this industry.Episode Highlights02:18 The statistic that completely changed how Arielle sees the future of enrichment programs06:04 Why canceled programs create damage far beyond lost revenue11:37 The operational problem most enrichment businesses are quietly carrying15:52 Arielle’s honest take on why growth often creates more chaos instead of more stability21:09 What happens when enrollment systems, marketing, and communication all live in someone’s head27:44 The difference between operators building sustainable systems…and operators surviving term to term33:18 Why Arielle believes infrastructure will become the real competitive advantage in enrichment over the next few yearsResources mentionedAfter School Alliance: national after-school program research, enrollment, and demand data enrops: Dr. Arielle Hammond is building the all-in-one platform this industry has been missing. We’re talking scheduling, instructor management, and parent communication all in one place. I built it because we need it. Go to getenrops.com to get on the list.That's a wrap. If this episode gave you something — an idea, a laugh, a story — share it with one person who needs it. Leave us a five star review because it helps other enrichment entrepreneurs find this show. Got a question or a story worth telling? Head to https://www.getenrops.com/podcast— you can submit your questions, apply to be a guest, and access resources to help you launch and grow your business. Again, that's https://www.getenrops.com/podcast. Until next time — keep learning, keep building.
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14 | How to Build a Business Around Your Craft with Aarun Carter
A lot of people love something. Far fewer people figure out how to build a business around that thing without eventually draining the joy out of it. In this episode, Arielle talks with national fiddle champion and music educator Aarun Carter about what it has actually looked like to sustain a life in music across decades…through performing, teaching, competitions, parenting, business ownership, and now teaching the next generation of students herself. Aarun shares how watching her mother run a long-term teaching practice shaped the way she approaches structure, discipline, community, and student growth, and why some of the most important lessons her students learn have very little to do with music itself. They also get into preschool learners, adult beginners, recitals, retention, Groupon-era growth strategies, Google optimization, and the emotional reality of teaching people through frustration, insecurity, and hard seasons of learning. This conversation felt especially meaningful because so much of enrichment work is really about helping people stay with difficult things long enough to discover what they are capable of on the other side. Episode Highlights03:40 — The policies and structures Aarun inherited from watching her mother run a 40-year teaching business08:37 — Why first performances change students far beyond music14:59 — “This is exactly when we do not quit.” Aarun on perseverance and teaching through stuck points24:22 — Why adult violin lessons sometimes become “half therapy”27:56 — How Groupon helped Aarun build her first long-term student base in Portland29:25 — The exact Google and SEO changes that increased student inquiries36:24 — Aarun’s rule for protecting both her business and her love for music Resources mentioned- - enrops: Dr. Arielle Hammond is building the all-in-one platform this industry has been missing. We’re talking scheduling, instructor management, and parent communication all in one place. I built it because we need it. Go to getenrops.com to get on the list.Guest bioAarun Carter is a national fiddle champion, recording artist, and music educator based in Oregon. She runs a private violin and fiddle instruction practice built around competition, community, performance, and long-term student development. Aarun began teaching at 16 years old, grew up inside fiddle culture through her mother’s own teaching business, and now teaches students ranging from preschoolers to adult learners…including Arielle’s daughters. Where to Find AarunYou can learn more about Aarun Carter and her studio at aaruncarter.com, where she offers private violin and fiddle instruction, group learning opportunities, and performance coaching for students of all ages. You can also find her performances and teaching content on YouTube and connect with her local music community work throughout Oregon. That's a wrap. If this episode gave you something — an idea, a laugh, a story — share it with one person who needs it. Leave us a five star review because it helps other enrichment entrepreneurs find this show. Got a question or a story worth telling? Head to https://www.getenrops.com/podcast— you can submit your questions, apply to be a guest, and access resources to help you launch and grow your business. Again, that's https://www.getenrops.com/podcast. Until next time — keep learning, keep building.
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13 | Nobody Is Finding You and That's a Fixable Problem
You can run a program parents genuinely love and still struggle to fill seats consistently, and that disconnect frustrates a lot of enrichment operators because good programs do not automatically guarantee visibility. In this episode, Arielle breaks down why marketing for kids enrichment businesses works differently than general small business marketing advice and shares the costly lessons learned after spending thousands on strategies that produced very little return. She explains why visibility problems are often operational problems first, because most operators are buried in scheduling, instructor management, and day-to-day logistics instead of building intentional marketing systems months in advance. The conversation also explores the hidden cost of canceled programs, including the discovery that 97% of refunded families never purchased again, and why timing matters far earlier than most operators realize. Subscribe to The Enrichment Entrepreneur wherever you listen to podcasts and share this episode with another operator who’s tired of feeling invisible. Episode Highlights02:14 — The expensive marketing advice Arielle followed that led to wasted spend instead of growth05:38 — Why the operators who seem “good at marketing” usually just have stronger operations underneath07:33 — The mistake Arielle made waiting too long to promote summer programs12:40 — The conversation with another operator that revealed how unpredictable enrollment really is14:49 — The retention data behind canceled programs and why 97% of refunded families never returned17:46 — What marketing actually looks like for kids enrichment businesses in practice Resources mentioned- enrops: Dr. Arielle Hammond is building the all-in-one platform this industry has been missing. We’re talking scheduling, instructor management, and parent communication all in one place. I built it because we need it. Go to getenrops.com to get on the list.- Connect with Arielle on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/arielle-hammondThat's a wrap. If this episode gave you something — an idea, a laugh, a story — share it with one person who needs it. Leave us a five star review because it helps other enrichment entrepreneurs find this show. Got a question or a story worth telling? Head to https://www.getenrops.com/podcast — you can submit your questions, apply to be a guest, and access resources to help you launch and grow your business. Again, that's https://www.getenrops.com/podcast. Until next time — keep learning, keep building.
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12 | Writing it Down: The Due Diligence Most Enrichment Entrepreneurs Skip with Dan VanDetta
In this new episode of The Enrichment Entrepreneur, Dan VanDetta and I talk about what it actually looks like to build youth programs that last. One of my favorite parts of this conversation was hearing how intentionally Five Rings Jiu Jitsu develops instructors…prioritizing temperament, patience, and relationship-building over polished resumes or technical expertise alone. Dan also shares his perspective as both an educator and operator, and the conversation naturally unfolds into something bigger about mentorship, community trust, and the responsibility that comes with working with children. If you run an after-school program, martial arts academy, tutoring business, arts program, camp organization, or any type of enrichment business serving families. I think a lot of this conversation will feel very familiar. There is so much hidden labor in this work that outsiders never see, and this episode speaks honestly about both the challenges and the meaning behind it. To access more resources and join a community of operators who actually get it, visit https://www.getenrops.com/podcastEpisode Highlights00:00 Dan shares the due diligence lesson he wishes someone had told him before getting into youth enrichment.02:34 The decision to lean into youth programming and how it ended up tripling membership at Five Rings Jiu Jitsu06:27 The hidden emotional labor of coaching kids from role model to counselor to steady adult presence.11:27 Why community relationships matter more than transactional marketing when building local programs.16:44 The hiring philosophy behind Five Rings Jiu Jitsu and why temperament matters more than technical expertise.19:47 The operational reality most outsiders never see when running programs beyond your brick-and-mortar location.25:54 Advice for educators thinking about turning their skills, passions, and experience into an enrichment business.Resources mentioned- Five Rings Jiu Jitsu website: https://5rjj.com/- enrops: Dr. Arielle Hammond is building the all-in-one platform this industry has been missing. We’re talking scheduling, instructor management, and parent communication all in one place. I built it because we need it. Go to getenrops.com to get on the list.Guest bioProfessor Dan VanDetta is a lifelong educator and youth coach at Five Rings Jiu Jitsu in Oregon. After spending a decade teaching in public education, he transitioned into youth martial arts instruction and community-based enrichment programming. Over the past 17 years, Dan has helped develop youth programs, after-school partnerships, homeschool offerings, and instructor development systems centered around character building, perseverance, and community impact. He currently oversees youth and extracurricular programming while helping expand Five Rings’ outreach throughout the local community. Where to Find DanYou can learn more about Dan and Five Rings Jiu Jitsu at fiveringsjiujitsu.com or reach out directly at [email protected]'s a wrap. If this episode gave you something — an idea, a laugh, a story — share it with one person who needs it. Leave us a five star review because it helps other enrichment entrepreneurs find this show. Got a question or a story worth telling? Head to https://www.getenrops.com/podcast — you can submit your questions, apply to be a guest, and access resources to help you launch and grow your business. Again, that's https://www.getenrops.com/podcast. Until next time — keep learning, keep building.
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11 | The Future of Kids Enrichment: What I Would Do Differently in 2026
If I were starting a kids enrichment business from scratch today, I wouldn’t just follow my passion...I’d follow the demand. After building a STEAM business that now serves over 1,300 children annually, I’ve realized that scaling is a choice between creating order or multiplying chaos. In this episode, I’m walking through my exact 2026 launch sequence: from choosing "sticky" programs that retain families for years to the uncomfortable pricing math that ensures your business actually prospers. We’re getting real about the "hidden tax" of inventory-heavy programs and why finding your people early is the difference between surviving and thriving. It’s time to stop building the plane while you're flying it and start building a foundation that can actually hold the weight of your dreams. You can grab the Complete Enrichment Business Compliance Checklist and all the templates mentioned in this episode at getenrops.com/podcastEpisode Highlights00:00 The 2026 Perspective: Reflecting on the "build the plane while flying it" era. 05:43 The "Sticky" Program Test: Why music and martial arts beat episodic STEM workshops. 10:52 Blue Ocean Strategy: How to validate demand before you push your way into a saturated market. 14:01 Scaling Order: Getting the legal and safety "bones" right before you grow. 15:17 Building Systems for Growth: Organizing inventory and curriculum so it doesn't own you. 17:15 The Isolation Trap: Finding peer community and mentorship through Score.org and LinkedIn. 21:07 Pricing with Confidence: Why your price should feel just a little uncomfortable. 30:33 Making Your Business Findable: How to land partners without a massive marketing kit.Resources mentioned- Connect with Arielle on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/arielle-hammond- enrops: Dr. Arielle Hammond is building the all-in-one platform this industry has been missing. We’re talking scheduling, instructor management, and parent communication all in one place. I built it because we need it. Go to getenrops.com to get on the list.- Waitlist for Online Community: Join us at getenrops.com/podcast- The Complete Enrichment Business Compliance Checklist: Scale safety, not chaos. - Enrichment Launch Toolkit: The blueprint for getting your foundation right from day one. - Pricing Value Statement Worksheet: Articulate exactly why your program is worth the premium. - School Partnership Outreach Template Pack: The exact verbiage to land school-based sites. - Score.org Mentorship Program: Access free, expert business mentorship. Checklist and all the templates mentioned in this episode at getenrops.com/podcastThat's a wrap. If this episode gave you something — an idea, a laugh, a story — share it with one person who needs it. Leave us a five star review because it helps other enrichment entrepreneurs find this show. Got a question or a story worth telling? Head to getenrops.com/podcast — you can submit your questions, apply to be a guest, and access resources to help you launch and grow your business. Again, that's getenrops.com/podcast. Until next time — keep learning, keep building.
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10 | How To Build Grant-Ready Partnerships with Darren Chase
Darren Chase, founder and CEO of Chase Youth Programs LLC, graduated college at 20 and founded a company four months later. But his real competitive advantage wasn't his degree, it was a childhood experience in an after-school program that changed the trajectory of his life. We’re talking about what it actually looks like to scale from zero to 16 schools in under a year, his 'servant-leader' approach to staff management, and the specific, long-term relationship strategy he used to secure over $100k in grant funding.To access more resources and join a community of operators who actually get it, visit getenrops.com/podcast.Episode Highlights2:10 The real origin story, not a business plan, but a third grade experience that shaped everything7:45 The moment coaching turned into something bigger than just working with a few students9:30 Why early growth came from being personally involved not building systems first18:40 How high school interns helped land actual school partnerships (not just support tasks)20:50 The cash flow reality of schools fronting costs and waiting 30, 60, even 90 days to get paid23:10 The operational challenge no one talks about managing different background check systems across schools31:20 How he secured over $100K in grants by building relationships before submitting anythingIf you’re building in this space and trying to grow without adding more complexity every time you expand…subscribe to the podcast and head to enrichmententrepreneur.com to access resources, learn what’s actually working, and connect with a community of operators doing the same work.Resources mentioned- Profit First by Mike Michalowicz: a practical system for managing cash flow in service-based businesses- enrops: Dr. Arielle Hammond is building the all-in-one platform this industry has been missing. We’re talking scheduling, instructor management, and parent communication all in one place. I built it because we need it. Go to getenrops.com to get on the list.Guest bioDarren Chase is the Founder and CEO of Chase Youth Programs LLC, where he’s building and scaling after-school, enrichment, and youth development programs across schools in Atlanta. Before launching his company, he grew a school programs division from the ground up expanding to 16 school and community partners, running 35+ weekly programs, and serving roughly 350 students while managing a team of 40. He’s led programs that generated over $200,000 in just six months, helped drive multi-million dollar growth across organizations, and played a role in nonprofit initiatives that served nearly 1,000 students at no cost. Now, he’s focused on building systems that allow programs like this to expand into tutoring, community service, and new school partnerships while keeping the quality of the experience intact.Where to Find DarrenYou can learn more about Darren at chaseyouthprograms.com, connect with him on LinkedIn, or reach him directly at [email protected]'s a wrap. If this episode gave you something — an idea, a laugh, a story — share it with one person who needs it. Leave us a five star review because it helps other enrichment entrepreneurs find this show. Got a question or a story worth telling? Head to getenrops.com/podcast — you can submit your questions, apply to be a guest, and access resources to help you launch and grow your business. Again, that's getenrops.com/podcast. Until next time — keep learning, keep building.
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09 | The Hiring Roadmap: How to Stop Doing It All Yourself
"I’ll just do it myself." If you’re a woman in business, especially in the kids enrichment space, those words are practically a survival mantra. I know the feeling of hitting that ceiling where your calendar is the only thing standing between you and the next level. In this episode, I’m breaking down why getting help isn't a weakness…it’s the only way to build something that outlasts your own physical presence. We walk through the four levels of scaling, from leveraging AI as your first "team member" to hiring a full-time leader who truly owns outcomes. This is the roadmap for moving from solopreneur chaos to regional scale so you can finally focus on strategy instead of daily fires.Episode Highlights03:15 Why your first hire shouldn't necessarily be an instructor.05:20 Pulling the first lever: How AI can act as your first "team member" for customer support and inbox management.07:30 The $10/hour unlock: Using Virtual Assistants (VAs) to master the routine of delegation.11:45 Making your tax dollars work for you through free mentoring at score.org.17:30 The Level 4 shift: Moving from part-time help to a full-time leader who owns outcomes.23:45 The four stages of organizational structure, from Solopreneur to Regional Scale.Resources- Buy Back Your Time by Dan Martel- Clockwork by Mike Michalowicz- Score.org (Free business mentoring)- Delegation Audit Worksheet (Free) and Hiring Readiness Checklist — Available at getenrops.com/podcastIf you’re building alone right now and need a thinking partner who actually understands the chaos of this industry, check out our support line at getenrops.com/podcast. We are here to support you every step of the way… because nothing great is ever built alone.Next Week: I’m laying out the exact roadmap I would use if I were starting an enrichment business from scratch in 2026. Don’t miss it.That's a wrap. If this episode gave you something — an idea, a laugh, a story — share it with one person who needs it. Leave us a five star review because it helps other enrichment entrepreneurs find this show. Got a question or a story worth telling? Head to getenrops.com/podcast — you can submit your questions, apply to be a guest, and access resources to help you launch and grow your business. Again, that's getenrops.com/podcast. Until next time — keep learning, keep building.
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08 | The Business of Magic: From Teaching Tricks to Running a Real Business with Professor DR Schreiber
Loving your craft is a great place to start but it is not a business plan. Professor Dr. Schreiber has been teaching magic in Portland-area elementary schools for 15 years, full-time for the last five. He performs in an 18th-century style, but what he’s figured out along the way is that the hardest parts have nothing to do with the tricks. It's the scheduling conflicts, the enrollment that doesn't hit minimum, the 12 third graders who've collectively decided the school rules don't apply after the bell rings, and the administrative load that somehow multiplies every time you think you've got it under control. We get into what happens when enrollment falls short and why "cancel" is almost never the right first move, why the apps and software promising to fix your operations cannot save you if you haven't figured out how to manage a room, and the specific teaching model he's used for 15 years that keeps families coming back term after term, sibling after sibling. This episode is for anyone with a passion, a craft, or a specialty who is trying to figure out whether there's a real business in it.Episode Highlights1:30 Living off the calendar and why his performance schedule and teaching schedule are always negotiating with each other6:30 The Society of Young Magicians, 10 years as a certified mentor, and the teaching model he still runs today10:30 Day one of class, the magician's oath, and why philosophy comes before any tricks14:30 Knowing how a trick is done and actually being able to do it are two completely different things23:30 Why Professor caps classes at 12 students and what happens to the economics when enrollment is tight27:00 When enrollment falls short, the third option most operators never consider35:00 Canceling a full program term means those families almost never come back39:00 Why no app or software can save a program if the teacher isn't any goodResources mentioned- Book a class or explore performances of Professor DR Schreiber → historicalconjurer.com/schedule- Free classroom and group management tips → enrichmententrepreneur.com/resources- Support and community for enrichment operators → getenrops.com/podcastGuest bioProfessor DR Schreiber, better known to some as Danny Schreiber, has been doing this long enough to have taught the older sibling and then watched the younger one show up to enroll. He's an award-winning full-time magician, performer, and instructor who has spent two decades teaching hundreds of students through after-school programs, parks and rec, camps, and private lessons. He's a member of the Magic Castle's Academy of Magical Arts, a member of the Society of American Magicians, a certified mentor with the Society of Young Magicians, and a past Disneyland cast member. He performs under the name The Historical Conjurer and specializes in 18th-century magic.Where to Find Professor DR SchreiberYou can find Professor DR Schreiber on Facebook and Instagram, book a class or explore his performances at www.historicalconjurer.com schedule, or reach out directly through the website...he's been doing this for 15 years and loves connecting with anyone who wants to bring magic to their community.That's a wrap. If this episode gave you something — an idea, a laugh, a story — share it with one person who needs it. Leave us a five star review because it helps other enrichment entrepreneurs find this show. Got a question or a story worth telling? Head to getenrops.com/podcast — you can submit your questions, apply to be a guest, and access resources to help you launch and grow your business. Again, that's getenrops.com/podcast. Until next time — keep learning, keep building.
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07 | Your Enrichment Business Isn’t Disorganized…Your Systems Are
At some point, what used to work stops working and most enrichment operators don’t realize it until everything starts to feel heavier than it should. In this week’s episode of The Enrichment Entrepreneur, Dr. Arielle Hammond walks through the systems she built while managing 75 partnership sites, because keeping everything in your head is not a strategy, it’s a bottleneck. She breaks down what actually holds a youth enrichment business together…our calendar, your workflows, your communication, and the processes nobody writes down but everyone depends on.If you’re tired of carrying the weight of 50 school partnerships in your head alone, come join us at getenrops.com/podcast to grab these templates and join the community I wish I had when I was drowning in the stone age of enrichment tech… we got this. Episode Highlights00:00 The moment you realize your business can’t live in your head anymore03:15 Looking at your calendar and seeing what you actually prioritize08:00 The Friday ritual that quietly fixes your entire week16:45 When your team is waiting on you… and everything slows down24:00 Why payroll in enrichment businesses never feels clean36:00 The realization that your inbox is setting your agenda41:30 What changed when Arielle started writing everything down48:00 The difference between an organized drive… and a junk drawerResourcesFree resources hub: getenrops.com/podcast- Friday Planning & Reflection Template- Time Audit Template- Parent Email Templates- Delegation Audit Worksheet- Monthly Financial Review TemplateThat's a wrap. If this episode gave you something — an idea, a laugh, a story — share it with one person who needs it. Leave us a five star review because it helps other enrichment entrepreneurs find this show. Got a question or a story worth telling? Head to getenrops.com/podcast — you can submit your questions, apply to be a guest, and access resources to help you launch and grow your business. Again, that's getenrops.com/podcast. Until next time — keep learning, keep building.
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06 | What 20 Years in Enrichment Teaches About Building and Scaling with David Dodge
Twenty years in enrichment will teach you things no course ever will and David Dodge came ready to share all of it. Dr. Arielle Hammond is joined by David Dodge of CodaKid to get into the real mechanics of building and scaling in this industry: bootstrapping without a safety net, knowing when your delivery model has maxed out, building a value ladder that keeps your best customers around longer, and what Answer Engine Optimization is already doing to the way parents find enrichment programs. David has built two mid-seven-figure companies in this space, pivoted more than once, and still isn't done building. This one is worth a full listen.If you’re ready to stop guessing and start scaling with the kind of hard-won strategy David shared today, join our community at enrichmententrepreneur.com where we’re gathering the operators who are actually doing the work so you don't have to navigate this stone age of tech alone… we got this.Episode Highlights00:46 The question that kicks off 20 years worth of hard-won lessons08:50 The moment David turned to his wife and asked if he should start driving for Uber at night11:14 David explains why AI feels exactly like coding for kids did in 2014 and why he's going headfirst into it13:05 How a $19/month self-study platform became the bottom rung of a value ladder that goes all the way to college admissions17:02 The month CodaKid's blog traffic got crushed by answer engines and what David did about it25:14 Why David made a TikTok featuring his own competitors and still came out winning36:30 After 20 years, what David actually looks for in a hire now and what he used to settle forResources mentioned- codakid.com: a kids coding and AI academy with self-study and private tutoring options, currently serving students in nearly 100 countries- Blotato: AI-powered content tool David uses to create and distribute content across seven platforms at once- SBA 7(a) loans: David's recommended path for enrichment operators who need capital to scaleGuest bioDavid Dodge is the founder and CEO of CodaKid, a kids coding and AI academy serving students in nearly 100 countries. Before CodaKid, he scaled SurePrep Learning to 2,000 active tutors across four states before a federal program shutdown forced his next move... and instead of slowing down, he launched CodaKid in 2014. He's an Inc. Magazine columnist, a game developer credited on titles for Sega and Sony, and the kind of guest who gives you his real strategy, not the polished version.Where to Find DavidYou can connect with David on X (formerly Twitter) @davidddodge or TikTok @davedodge.ai, explore his courses at CodaKid.com, or reach out directly to set up a call...he loves helping fellow entrepreneurs.Head to getenrops.com/podcast to submit your questions, apply to be a guest, and access resources to help you launch and grow your business. That's a wrap. If this episode gave you something — an idea, a laugh, a story — share it with one person who needs it. Leave us a five star review because it helps other enrichment entrepreneurs find this show. Got a question or a story worth telling? Head to getenrops.com/podcast — you can submit your questions, apply to be a guest, and access resources to help you launch and grow your business. Again, that's getenrops.com/podcast. Until next time — keep learning, keep building.
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05 | The Infrastructure Gap: Why Your Enrichment Business Feels Harder Than It Should
Most kids' enrichment businesses are struggling…quietly accumulating operational debt they never agreed to take on. In this episode, I name what that looks like in practice: fragmented systems, constant rebuilding of the same materials each term, and decision-making happening in isolation without any shared industry playbook. Once you see it, you can’t unsee how much time is being spent on work that shouldn’t exist in the first place. We also get into why this shows up so consistently across operators. From registration platforms built for completely different industries, to marketing systems that don’t reflect how families actually choose programs, the infrastructure gap is real and it compounds every term.Join the community at getenrops.com/podcast because you shouldn't be figuring this out alone. Episode Highlights02:29 The moment I realized I was losing 15 hours of my life just making flyers.05:51 When I finally had to stop the wishful thinking about grant eligibility for for-profits.14:12 Why "RIP Free" is the only way to handle the competition's psychological halo.22:56 The brutal truth about instructor turnover and why management mindset is the only fix.31:39 When I admitted I was just guessing on pricing because I was building in total isolation.That's a wrap. If this episode gave you something — an idea, a laugh, a story — share it with one person who needs it. Leave us a five star review because it helps other enrichment entrepreneurs find this show. Got a question or a story worth telling? Head to getenrops.com/podcast — you can submit your questions, apply to be a guest, and access resources to help you launch and grow your business. Again, that's getenrops.com/podcast. Until next time — keep learning, keep building.
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04 | The Ceiling Every Enrichment Business Hits And What to Do Next with Amir Moazami
Amir Moazami, co-founder of Rookly, joins Dr. Arielle Hammond to share why he walked away from a successful after-school chess business and what led him to build something entirely different. Rookly is an online chess league that helps school clubs compete without the usual logistics, now used by 275+ schools across the U.S. and Canada. They talk about hitting the “ceiling” in your business, what scaling actually looks like, and why competition can completely change student engagement. Want more conversations like this? Head to getenrops.com/podcast to submit your questions, apply to be a guest, and access resources to help you launch and grow your business. Episode Highlights- The Strategic Pivot: Why Amir chose to walk away from a successful tutoring business to build a more scalable technology-based model.- Overcoming the "Ceiling of Complexity": Recognizing the moment when doubling your workload is no longer sustainable and choosing higher-leverage opportunities.- Building a National League: How Rookly removed logistical barriers like travel and chaperones to connect 4,000 active students across 38 states.- The FOMO Effect: How healthy competition creates a positive feedback loop that increases student engagement and retention- Tech for Domain Experts: Practical advice on using accessible tools like Apollo, CRMs, and AI to bridge operational gaps.Resources Mentioned- Apollo.io: Tool for finding and reaching out to school partners- Claude Code & Cursor: Coding tools for beginners- CRM & email marketing tools: Mentioned as essential for customer relationship management and newsletters.Guest bioAmir Moazami is the co-founder of Rookly, an online chess league that enables school chess clubs to compete against each other without the need for travel, scheduling logistics, or coordination between schools. What started as a local after-school chess program evolved into a fast-growing platform now used by 275+ schools across the U.S. and Canada. Amir’s work sits at the intersection of youth enrichment, competition, and technology, with a focus on making academic activities more social, engaging, and scalable.Where to Find AmirYou can connect with Amir through his email at [email protected], find him on LinkedIn, or learn more about his work at https://rookly.com.That's a wrap. If this episode gave you something — an idea, a laugh, a story — share it with one person who needs it. Leave us a five star review because it helps other enrichment entrepreneurs find this show. Got a question or a story worth telling? Head to getenrops.com/podcast — you can submit your questions, apply to be a guest, and access resources to help you launch and grow your business. Again, that's getenrops.com/podcast. Until next time — keep learning, keep building.
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03 | Your Instructors Are Your Product: How to Find, Hire, and Actually Keep Great Staff
If you've ever lost a great instructor and had no idea why, this one's for you. Dr. Arielle Hammond talks through the real reason turnover is so high in youth enrichment and the specific things she does to find staff who actually stay. She also gets into the W-2 vs. 1099 stuff nobody warns you about when you're starting out. More at getenrops.com/podcastEpisode Highlights- Your instructors are your product, not your curriculum, your brand, or your website.- The schedule, the pay ceiling, and the part-time hours aren't excuses, they're the structural reasons this problem is so hard to solve.- One operator went through 100+ interviews just to build a team of 10, and Arielle shares the three questions that actually predict whether someone will stay.- When new instructors have a mentor who isn't their supervisor or evaluator, retention rates climb as high as 96%.- If your instructors follow your schedule, use your curriculum, and deliver your program, the IRS likely sees them as employees, not contractors.Resources Mentioned- W-2 vs. 1099 deep dive — covered in Episode 01: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-enrichment-entrepreneur/id1888775184That's a wrap. If this episode gave you something — an idea, a laugh, a story — share it with one person who needs it. Leave us a five star review because it helps other enrichment entrepreneurs find this show. Got a question or a story worth telling? Head to getenrops.com/podcast — you can submit your questions, apply to be a guest, and access resources to help you launch and grow your business. Again, that's getenrops.com/podcast. Until next time — keep learning, keep building.
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02 | Stop Paying for Marketing That Doesn't Work: What Enrichment Entrepreneurs Actually Need to Know with Brandon Laws
Marketing expert Brandon Laws joins Dr. Arielle Hammond to explain why so many enrichment business owners get paralyzed by "shiny object syndrome" and expensive ad traps. Brandon breaks down how to move away from transactional tactics and toward a "foundation-first" strategy that positions the customer as the hero of the story, including why authentic program photos beat "AI slop" every time. From using AI as a creative assistant to the power of building an email list you actually own, this conversation is the honest marketing guide for owners ready to stop throwing money at things that don't stick.Episode Highlights- The Hero Switch: Why centering your marketing on your customer’s problem instead of your own credentials is the ultimate hook.- The Google Ads Trap: Why paying for clicks before you own your brand assets and messaging often leads to "underwhelming" results- Authenticity Over AI: The critical role of real program photography in building trust with anxious parents- The "Fish" Philosophy: How shifting from a marketing firm to a consultant can help you build sustainable systems you actually know how to run.- The Content Shortcuts: A step-by-step hack for using your own LinkedIn bio and AI to generate 80 unique interview questions and a social media plan.Resources Mentioned- Building a StoryBrand by Donald Miller: Brandon’s go-to framework for clarifying your message.- Jab, Jab, Jab, Right Hook by Gary Vaynerchuk: The strategy for adding value before asking for a sale.Guest bioBrandon Laws is the Vice President of Marketing and Product at Xenium HR and a member of the Senior Leadership Team. Since joining the company in 2008, he has played a key role in shaping Xenium’s brand and digital presence while continuously adapting to the rapidly evolving world of HR and employee experience. Brandon is perhaps best known as the host of the Transform Your Workplace podcast, which he launched in 2012 and has grown to over 580 episodes and 1.5+ million downloads. A lifelong learner and teacher at heart, Brandon is passionate about helping others grow by simplifying complex tools through training and content.Where to Find BrandonYou can connect with Brandon Laws through his website at brandonlawsmarketing.com, find him on LinkedIn, or see his work at Zenium HR.Head to getenrops.com/podcast to submit your questions, apply to be a guest, and access resources to help you launch and grow your business.That's a wrap. If this episode gave you something — an idea, a laugh, a story — share it with one person who needs it. Leave us a five star review because it helps other enrichment entrepreneurs find this show. Got a question or a story worth telling? Head to getenrops.com/podcast — you can submit your questions, apply to be a guest, and access resources to help you launch and grow your business. Again, that's getenrops.com/podcast. Until next time — keep learning, keep building.
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01 | 100K Mistakes: What I'd Do Differently and What I'd Do Exactly the Same
If you’ve ever felt like you’re building your enrichment business on an island, this episode is for you. Dr. Arielle Hammond is getting incredibly honest about the hard-earned lessons from her first two years, sharing the specific mistakes that cost her over $100,000 in real money, sleep, and partnerships while building Journey to STEAM. She breaks down exactly what she’d change if she started over today and the smart moves she’d keep, to help you build a more sustainable business.Ready to stop building in isolation? Head over to getenrops.com/podcast to join our community, submit your own questions, or access the resources mentioned in this episode. In this episode, Dr. Hammond shares these 6 mistakes to give you a head start on what to avoid:- Growing Too Fast: Why pushing into new territory before the community is ready to "pull" you in can backfire on your enrollment numbers.- The Data Gap: The high cost of choosing your next move based on "gut instinct" instead of the story your spreadsheets are already trying to tell you.- Training Before Hiring: How a single training oversight led to a "one-and-done" partnership and why your onboarding needs a solid floor.- The Professionalization Pivot: Why treating your team like a "gig" instead of a professional workforce creates risks you can't afford to ignore.- The Isolation Tax: The surprising (and expensive) discovery Arielle made only after she finally stopped building in total silence.- The Preparation Gap: A reality check on the "Wild West" of enrichment and the high-stakes safety standards every owner needs to know.Resources Mentioned- Instructor Onboarding Checklist: A free, ready-to-use guide to help you professionalize your hiring process—available at enrichmententrepreneur.com/resources.- The Support Line: A new mentorship resource designed to give your instructors a safe place to turn for help.- 100K Mistakes Ebook: The full deep-dive into these lessons, including the recovery stories and actual dollar amounts.- Teach Like a Champion: Arielle’s go-to recommendation for mastering student management and the "teacher voice".- AI for Data Analysis: How to use tools like Claude or GPT to identify your top-performing program patterns.That's a wrap. If this episode gave you something — an idea, a laugh, a story — share it with one person who needs it. Leave us a five star review because it helps other enrichment entrepreneurs find this show. Got a question or a story worth telling? Head to getenrops.com/podcast — you can submit your questions, apply to be a guest, and access resources to help you launch and grow your business. Again, that's getenrops.com/podcast. Until next time — keep learning, keep building.
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00 | Welcome to The Enrichment Entrepreneur: The Podcast for After-School, Camp & Youth Enrichment Business Owners
Hey y'all! If you own an after-school program, summer camp, tutoring business, or any youth enrichment program and you've been building it alone wondering where your people are, this podcast is for you.The Enrichment Entrepreneur is the podcast for youth enrichment business owners who want real community, practical advice, and honest conversation about what it actually takes to launch and grow a youth enrichment business.30 million parents are looking for enrichment programs for their kids. Only 14 million have access. We are the solution, but we have to build together.I'm Dr. Arielle Hammond, founder of Journey to STEAM, a for-profit STEAM enrichment company with 75+ school and community partnerships. Almost three years in, still in the messy middle, building right alongside you.Two episodes a week. Mondays are solo topic episodes on the real challenges of running a youth enrichment business. Thursdays are guest episodes from enrichment entrepreneurs and others with key insights sharing their actual story.Heads up: 15 minutes in, there's a mommy moment in this one. Just this once, I kept it in.Submit questions, apply to be a guest, or access free resources for enrichment entrepreneurs at enrichmententrepreneur.com. If this lands, share it with one person who needs it. And if it earned it, give us all the stars in a review.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
You run a kids enrichment business: martial arts, music, gymnastics, swim, STEM, tutoring, camps, after-school, or something else entirely. There has never been a podcast built for you. Until now! The Enrichment Entrepreneur is hosted by Dr. Arielle Hammond, a former teacher and principal who built a 75-site enrichment company serving 1,300 kids (and still growing). Twice a week she sits down with fellow founders & experts for honest conversations about hiring, contracts, the hard seasons, and the wins. Come for the conversations. Stay for the community.
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