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The Ethan C. Lewin Podcast
by Ethan C. Lewin
Join me as I confront what terrifies me—including launching this podcast—in hopes of unearthing truths that set us free and help recover personal authority to forge a path uniquely our own. This podcast exists to raise to light the stories, life experiences, and messages of people from everyday walks of life. No single topic—just a shared journey aiming upward. I invite you to come alongside me as I live out this journey. After all, there’s no better time than the now.
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#64 - Lori Odhner - Peel Back the Foil
Many know Lori Odhner as the voice behind the songs that shaped their childhood, filling generations of church services and bedtime routines. Underneath that is a discipline she's practiced even longer: paying attention to the person in front of her.In this conversation, Lori traces that listening thread from her father's example, through raising nine children, her marriage to John, a daily marriage column written for over a decade, and a lifetime of quilting, songwriting, and quiet caregiving.She talks candidly about growing up with a mother who struggled with bipolar disorder, and how watching that struggle, echoed years later in raising her autistic son, Ben, taught her that suffering isn't a mistake. It's often the very thing that grows compassion in us.That same conviction reshaped her marriage counseling work. She once believed it meant teaching people the formula for a good relationship: learn this, and you'll know how to do it. Instead, she found it was something else entirely: vulnerability, not judging your partner, and not trying to change them.Ultimately, Lori makes a case for a different kind of giving: we don't always need to fix someone's problem. What's always important is simply being present. It's about seeking out the sweetness hiding in almost everyone you pass, if you're willing to peel back the foil.Check Out:Marriage Moats: 101 Thoughts to Inspire and Protect Your Marriage by Lori Odhnerhttps://caringformarriage.org/blog/Elevate the ExperienceHelp bring better audio, video, and filmed episodes to life: Venmo. I tithe 10% of all contributions—half to the All Secure Foundation (supporting soldiers’ transition home) and half to the Academy of the New Church High School.
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#63 - Erica Cantley - Between the Ideal and Real
There is often a gap between the way we are taught life is supposed to look and the way life actually looks. In celebration of her 60th birthday, I sit down with Miss Erica Cantley, a longtime ANC teacher and Maître D, to explore that space between the ideal and the real—and what happens when life doesn't quite match the picture we were given.Raised in Bryn Athyn, Pennsylvania, Erica describes her experience as “exposure without suffocation,” and opens the conversation by reflecting on how people raised in the same community can walk away with entirely different relationships to faith. From there, she takes us through her own experience of navigating that space: when relationships don't look the way you thought they would, when things you were taught as ideals meet reality, and when things we once considered mistakes become some of our most formative experiences—sometimes even the places from which something unexpectedly good grows.Erica talks candidly about intimacy as a “gift from the Lord” meant to bring couples back together, why “if you can't talk about sex, you shouldn't be having it,” and the importance of “paying attention” to yourself, your body, your relationships, and what is actually happening rather than forcing life to fit the ideal. Along the way, she reminds us that “the quality of your life is dictated by the quality of your relationships.”Ultimately, this is a conversation about meeting people where they are—not because the ideal doesn't matter, but because none of us live there perfectly. Erica's 60 years offer a refreshing reminder that the gift is not the perfect life; the gift is the ability to keep going.Welcome to episode 63.CheckoutTeaching HAMLET as my Father DiedMaitre d’ Diaries Podcast Elevate the ExperienceHelp bring better audio, video, and filmed episodes to life: Venmo. I tithe 10% of all contributions—half to the All Secure Foundation (supporting soldiers’ transition home) and half to the Academy of the New Church High School.Stay ConnectedContact: https://ethanclewin.com/A Note from MeI’m inspired by the stories people carry, the power of honest feedback, and the magic that happens when creative minds connect. If you’re a brand interested in partnering, let’s talk: LinkedIn.Thanks for being part of this journey—PEACE!
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#62 - Anne Grace Glenn - Birth Day Presence
When I found out that Anne Grace Glenn had recently given birth in front of 24 people, I said, "I need to interview her!"Anne grew up bilingual in Ottawa, spent a year in Japan as a kid, and was raised watching her parents actively live out their faith, one she'd spend years wrestling with herself, including a serious season discerning a call to become a Catholic nun.Anne grew up with nearly all her grandparents and great-grandparents present in her life, and watched her family care for them, all the way to the end. It was "so normal," she says, that she never learned to fear death.Birth found her early too, at 16, while babysitting, a mother's labor moved faster than anyone expected, and the baby was born on the bathroom floor with the father catching her. Anne was entranced.She met her husband, Coleman, a minister, through a fun love story of their own. Together, they've faced, what many might consider, to be more than their fair share of brushes with illness and mortality, and neither has let it shake their faith.A few years into their marriage, Anne was diagnosed with metastatic neuroendocrine cancer at 28. She wasn't expected to make it to 30. Facing her own mortality and still here, she went on to bring five more children into the world after that diagnosis, seven in total, through hospital births, midwife births, unplanned unattended home births, and most recently the home birth deliberately witnessed by 24 people, a true birthday.We talk about what changes when a woman feels safe during labor, the difference between pain and injury, the history baked into modern obstetrics, and why she's since pursued doula and death doula training, not as a career, but as a way of showing up for her community at both ends of life.Anne also recently finished her Master of Arts in Religious Studies at Bryn Athyn College, walking across the graduation stage holding her children's hands. Her thesis, Render Them Blessed, is on the theology of children, and it threads through everything we talk about here.Welcome to episode 62.Check Out:To read Anne’s thesis, Render Them Blessed, email mailto:[email protected] and she will send you copyOur Love Story - https://colemanandanne.wordpress.com/our-love-story/Coleman’s poetry - https://alittlelightverse.substack.com/Midwife Krystina, Baraka Birth - https://www.barakabirth.com/Maria Montessori - https://themontessorinotebook.com/the-montessori-childGodly Play - https://www.godlyplayfoundation.org/The Heart of the Homestead by Ruthann Zimmerman - https://ruthannzimm.com/the-heart-of-the-homestead/For contacting Anne/learning more:@annegraceglenn on instagram @reddoorbirth for doula related things@reddoormontessori for homeschool [email protected] for homestead/gardening/chickensElevate the ExperienceHelp bring better audio, video, and filmed episodes to life: Venmo. I tithe 10% of all contributions—half to the All Secure Foundation (supporting soldiers’ transition home) and half to the Academy of the New Church High School.
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#61 - Greg Henderson - Just A Blip, A Lesson in Perspective
It takes a village to raise a child, and Greg Henderson has been a piece of that village for our whole town for nearly three decades, first as many of my peers' 8th grade teacher, then as my elementary school principal. In this episode, we trace his own story: how he became one piece of that village, and the journey that got him there.Some of you may remember Mr. Henderson from May Day Play Day, hoarse voiced and fired up like no other, rallying the troops before tug-of-war. We get into that, and so much more…The teachers and classmates who shaped him as a kid, the moment in college when he realized how many of the people who shaped him were teachers, and it clicked that he wanted to be the 8th grade boys' teacher, the exact role he'd go on to fill, wrestling with imposter syndrome as both a young teacher and later a principal, and doing his best to stay a present husband and father through it all.At the center of it is a lesson Greg carries from his 7th grade teacher, who he'd later go on to co-teach 8th grade alongside, that our time here is just a blip, and what matters more than raising sharp, successful citizens is helping the people in front of you grow toward something eternal. It's the perspective that's driven his entire career, and by the end of this conversation, I think it'll shift the way you see living and teaching too. Welcome to Episode 61. Elevate the ExperienceHelp bring better audio, video, and filmed episodes to life: Venmo. I tithe 10% of all contributions—half to the All Secure Foundation (supporting soldiers’ transition home) and half to the Academy of the New Church High School.A Note from MeI’m inspired by the stories people carry, the power of honest feedback, and the magic that happens when creative minds connect. If you’re a brand interested in partnering, let’s talk: LinkedIn.Thanks for being part of this journey—PEACE!
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#60 - Penny Rhodes - A Sojourn in Hell, On the Way to Heaven
The first time I encountered Penny Rhodes was from afar through her 2024 General Church Assembly Talk. That eight-minute talk can be listened to here: Penny’s Talk. The first time we officially met in person was when I arrived at her front door to record this episode. Before we had even sat down, the words slipped out of my mouth: "I feel like I already know you."Penny's story is powerful because it is a living example of the Lord's message. As Penny says in her Assembly talk, she is the woman who was forgiven much, and therefore loves much.Penny doesn't shy away from the choices that caused wounds she once thought were unforgivable — choices that led her into what she calls a living hell. But she also shows what's possible on the other side of that: years of repentance, real healing, and the Lord's mercy carried her from that hell into an entirely different life — a living heaven. Today, forty-plus years later, she says:"The Lord put me to use–to work in the trenches with people whose lives are in ruin—people who have finally hit rock bottom, screaming in pain and hopelessness for any number of reasons. I can sit with them in that mess. I don't flinch, judge, or give up. I simply hold them, and my love and faith in the Lord works through me.” Penny reminds us that life is complicated. The Lord has an extraordinary way of taking what looks like hell, shame, misery, and despair and transforming it into something beautiful.Jesus did not come for those who believed they had no need of healing. He came for the brokenhearted, the poor in spirit, the sinners, the outcasts, and those convinced they were beyond redemption.Without Minister Malcolm inviting Penny to share her testimony years ago, her story never would have reached me.Now I hope it reaches you.Welcome to Episode 60!P.S. If this conversation moves you, pass it along. Someone may need to hear it.Check Out:Penny Rhodes 2024 GC Assembly TalkA Light Burden: Easier Ways to Shun Evils by John Odhner Falling Upward by Richard Rohr From the Gospels: "Love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you." - Matthew 5:44 Jesus spoke these words during the Sermon on the Mount, calling His disciples—and all who would follow Him—to a love that extends even toward those who have hurt them. "Your sins are forgiven... Your faith has saved you. Go in peace." - Luke 7Spoken to the unnamed woman who washed Jesus' feet with her tears and wiped them with her hair. "Woman, where are those accusers of yours? Has no one condemned you?" She said, "No one, Lord." And Jesus said to her, "Neither do I condemn you; go and sin no more." — John 8:10–11 Spoken to the woman caught in adultery. A new commandment, I give unto you that you love one another as I have loved you. By this shall all men know you are my disciples, if you have love for one another, as I have loved you. - John 13:34-35 Jesus speaks these words to his disciples during the Last Supper, just before his crucifixion "Woman, why are you weeping? Whom are you seeking?... Mary!" She said, "Rabboni!" (which means, Teacher). - John 20:15–16Jesus' first appearance after His resurrection was to Mary Magdalene—the woman from whom He had cast seven demons.Elevate the ExperienceHelp bring better audio, video, and filmed episodes to life: Venmo. I tithe 10% of all contributions—half to the All Secure Foundation (supporting soldiers’ transition home) and half to the Academy of the New Church High School.Stay ConnectedContact: https://ethanclewin.com/
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#59 - Barrett Smith - Inside the Mind of a Painter
Ever wonder what goes on inside the mind of a painter after a lifetime of working quietly on a canvas? Barrett Smith gives voice to his life and his work.In February, Barrett was told he didn't have years left. Diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, he's been, in many ways, catapulted into reflecting on his life, and while in good conscience, mind, body, and spirit, he wants to pass on what he's learned.Across this conversation, Barrett speaks with a rare kind of honesty: about the marriage he once damaged before deconstructing and rebuilding himself into somebody he actually liked, about the hurt he's come to believe sits underneath most cruelty, and about learning, later in life than he wishes, to feel real joy in another as joy in oneself, knowing that this is real loving.He talks about his hope for others to know they are accepted for who they are, exactly as they are, and that hope itself is a discipline he's chosen to practice, even now. All of these things being a message he didn't necessarily receive when he was younger, and one he wants others to truly come to know.This is a painter thinking out loud about the raw material of a life, what to pass on, what to let go of, and what it means to try to leave people, and the world, a little more whole than he found them.His work can be viewed at the link below.Welcome to episode 59.Check Out:Barrett N SmithLee BontecouElevate the ExperienceHelp bring better audio, video, and filmed episodes to life: Venmo. I tithe 10% of all contributions—half to the All Secure Foundation (supporting soldiers’ transition home) and half to the Academy of the New Church High School.Stay ConnectedContact: https://ethanclewin.com/A Note from MeI’m inspired by the stories people carry, the power of honest feedback, and the magic that happens when creative minds connect. If you’re a brand interested in partnering, let’s talk: LinkedIn.Thanks for being part of this journey—PEACE!
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#58 - Rich & Mary Tate - Angel Eyes
Rich and Mary Tate both grew up Catholic, but neither expected the path that would eventually bring them together.Rich grew up in a large Italian Catholic family and spent years on autopilot—go to school, work hard, get married—until his first marriage came to an end and gave him the awakening he needed. Mary was raised in a deeply devout Catholic family before finding the New Church and the Bryn Athyn community, where she finally felt like she'd found home.We talk about growing up Catholic and discovering a different kind of spiritual home, a first marriage that had to fail before this one could work, praying together every morning and reading Scripture side by side, creating a home marked by peace, and why, looking back, both of them believe their winding paths were exactly what they needed.Welcome to episode 58.P.S. Ivyland refers to Ivyland New Church.Check Out:"Pray about everything, worry about nothing."The Dole Notes: Bible Study Notes (6-Volume Set) by Anita S. Dole The Essential Swedenborg: Basic Religious Teachings of Emanuel Swedenborg by Sig SynnestvedtElevate the ExperienceHelp bring better audio, video, and filmed episodes to life: Venmo. I tithe 10% of all contributions—half to the All Secure Foundation (supporting soldiers’ transition home) and half to the Academy of the New Church High School.Stay ConnectedContact: https://ethanclewin.com/A Note from MeI’m inspired by the stories people carry, the power of honest feedback, and the magic that happens when creative minds connect. If you’re a brand interested in partnering, let’s talk: LinkedIn.Thanks for being part of this journey—PEACE!
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#57 - Scott Daum - What Nobody Knew About the Principal
Scott has a powerful story, and it starts with basketball saving his life and winds through becoming a teacher, coach, and principal at the Academy — until the desire to isolate from that role took over and he pulled away from people entirely. This past year, he started coming back. Why? Because he realized he had taken it to the extreme, is content with his life, and ready to pass on what he learned.This episode is as much about the life that produced his new book, What Is New Church Education?, as it is about the ideas laid out in it — the principles and philosophy that guided his career as a New Church teacher.If you attended a New Church School, teach, or are a parent weighing where to send your kid(s) to school, Scott and I get into why church and state split and what a fully secular education, cut off from God, actually costs a kid who only hears about Him for an hour on Sundays, if at all. Welcome to episode 57. Check Out:Scott’s new book, What is New Church Education: A Starting Point and Orientation to a Noble Cause, is in the process of being published by the General Church (expected release date: ~EOY) No.1 Christianity Expert: If You DON’T Believe in a God you need to hear this!7 Habits of Highly Effective PeopleElevate the ExperienceHelp bring better audio, video, and filmed episodes to life: Venmo. I tithe 10% of all contributions—half to the All Secure Foundation (supporting soldiers’ transition home) and half to the Academy of the New Church High School.Stay ConnectedContact: https://ethanclewin.com/A Note from MeI’m inspired by the stories people carry, the power of honest feedback, and the magic that happens when creative minds connect. If you’re a brand interested in partnering, let’s talk: LinkedIn.Thanks for being part of this journey—PEACE!
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#56 - Angus & Kaylene Glenn - An Aussie-American Love Story
The Glenns are back in town, which made for the perfect 4th of July weekend and a golden opportunity to finally ask something I've been curious about for years: who was Angus before Kaylene, and who was Kaylene before Angus?We talk about childhoods on opposite sides of the world, family, loss, friendship, and how two people from Pennsylvania and Australia found each other and built a life so many of us admire. Along the way, we discover it didn't happen by accident; it was built through sacrifice, deep friendship, honest conversations, and the quiet daily choice to keep showing up for one another.Happy Fourth of July and happy 250th birthday, America — with a little collaboration from the Land Down Under. Welcome to episode 56!Check Out:IG: @jason.lambertus (jaw harp intro/outro)Elevate the ExperienceHelp bring better audio, video, and filmed episodes to life: Venmo. I tithe 10% of all contributions—half to the All Secure Foundation (supporting soldiers’ transition home) and half to the Academy of the New Church High School.Stay ConnectedContact: https://ethanclewin.com/A Note from MeI’m inspired by the stories people carry, the power of honest feedback, and the magic that happens when creative minds connect. If you’re a brand interested in partnering, let’s talk: LinkedIn.Thanks for being part of this journey—PEACE!
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#55 - Graham Bier - Couldn't Not
Graham Bier, the man behind the music at the Cathedral, has always been a bit of a mystery to me. So I tried to solve it.Graham grew up hands in the earth — free range, with miles of woods and wild to roam. The son of a conservation biologist who brought him through Pennsylvania forests hunting endangered species — Graham even discovered one that ended up in the Smithsonian with his name on it — and a small-scale subsistence farmer mother who had him up milking cows before school. He grew up caught between a father who doesn't believe and a mother who did, and has spent a lifetime wrestling somewhere beautifully in between.From double-majoring in music and environmental studies at Oberlin, to a PhD at York, to singing in China's greatest concert halls and touring Europe alongside operatic superstars, to now leading sacred music in the very community he once dreamed of belonging to — Graham has lived a life that resists easy summary.And on this Father's Day — the day we sat down to record — Graham reflects on what it actually looks like to build a life and a career alongside the person you love, and how he and Robin are doing everything they can to give their children the kind of childhood they are so deeply grateful they had themselves.Welcome to Episode 55.Check OutBryn Athyn Music Department Staff Reading Choral SocietyButterfly Bakery Hot Sauce Elevate the ExperienceHelp bring better audio, video, and filmed episodes to life: Venmo. I tithe 10% of all contributions—half to the All Secure Foundation (supporting soldiers’ transition home) and half to the Academy of the New Church High School.Stay ConnectedContact: https://ethanclewin.com/A Note from MeI’m inspired by the stories people carry, the power of honest feedback, and the magic that happens when creative minds connect. If you’re a brand interested in partnering, let’s talk: LinkedIn.Thanks for being part of this journey—PEACE!
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#54 – Edmund Rhodes – Is An Honest Agnostic Closer to God Than a False Believer?
Edmund Rhodes or “Mundo” doesn’t sugarcoat a thing. He feels comfortable to say what he thinks, even if it rubs you the wrong way — and if you disagree, good. He invites it. He doesn't back down from conflict, and he's not above stirring the pot. But he wasn’t always comfortable in his own skin. Growing up, Edmund was shy. It wasn't until he picked up the bottle that he discovered a version of himself that was confident, outgoing, and unafraid. Somewhere along the way, that version became the real one — though the path to get there was anything but straight.ATVs, airplanes, and horses ran through all of it — but so did change. Construction in Appalachia. Charleston. A first marriage strained by his drinking. Love found again in Costa Rica. A stint in India seeking healing through Ayurvedic medicine. Mundo has lived many lives, and found himself right back where he started: Bryn Athyn.But what makes this conversation compelling isn't necessarily Mundo's story—it's the question at its center: Is an honest agnostic searching for truth closer to God than someone who claims belief but never truly wrestles with it?Welcome to Episode 54.Elevate the ExperienceHelp bring better audio, video, and filmed episodes to life: Venmo. I tithe 10% of all contributions—half to the All Secure Foundation (supporting soldiers’ transition home) and half to the Academy of the New Church High School.Stay ConnectedContact: https://ethanclewin.com/A Note from MeI’m inspired by the stories people carry, the power of honest feedback, and the magic that happens when creative minds connect. If you’re a brand interested in partnering, let’s talk: LinkedIn.Thanks for being part of this journey—PEACE!
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#53 - Major General Ronald K. Nelson - Good & Faithful Servant
At 94 years young, Major General Ronald K. Nelson reflects on nearly a century of experiences — from flying President Eisenhower as a young Marine helicopter pilot, to simultaneously building two careers over four decades: rising to the rank of two-star general in the Marine Corps Reserve while spending those same years coaching, teaching, and mentoring generations of students at the Academy of the New Church High School in Bryn Athyn, Pennsylvania.He coached wrestling for over 30 years, founded the lacrosse program, and was eventually inducted into the National Wrestling Hall of Fame. When it was his turn to speak at the induction, he walked to the podium, pointed to the crowd of former wrestlers, and said: "The only reason I'm here is because of you guys. If you guys didn't win, I wouldn't be up here."Despite a lifetime of accomplishments, Ron is always quicker to credit others than himself. Welcome to Episode 53.Elevate the ExperienceHelp bring better audio, video, and filmed episodes to life: Venmo. I tithe 10% of all contributions—half to the All Secure Foundation (supporting soldiers’ transition home) and half to the Academy of the New Church High School.Stay ConnectedContact: https://ethanclewin.com/A Note from MeI’m inspired by the stories people carry, the power of honest feedback, and the magic that happens when creative minds connect. If you’re a brand interested in partnering, let’s talk: LinkedIn.Thanks for being part of this journey—PEACE!
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#52 — Tony Rose - Turns the Tables on Ethan
I would like to say 52 weeks and 52 episodes flew by but I really can't. It's been long, rewarding, uncomfortable at times, and... really, really good for me.I was reluctant to be in the guest seat but Tony refused to let me off the hook and I'm glad he didn't. Tony did a great job keeping it grounded, using me as the lens to reflect on the podcast, the people, the stories, and what it's actually meant to show up 52 times in a row. We talk about how this journey has helped me become more present and curious, why I'm drawn to uncomfortable conversations, and how a lot of that comes from wanting answers myself.Most of all, this one is a thank you. To every guest who trusted me enough to share their story. To everyone who's listened, reached out, or told me to keep going.Tony ends by asking what's next and the answer is simple: we're going to keep chuggin'.I cannot believe I am saying this… and at the same time I can. Welcome to Episode 52.Check Out:Episodes 0-51 Elevate the ExperienceHelp bring better audio, video, and filmed episodes to life: Venmo. I tithe 10% of all contributions—half to the All Secure Foundation (supporting soldiers’ transition home) and half to the Academy of the New Church High School.Stay ConnectedContact: https://ethanclewin.com/A Note from MeI’m inspired by the stories people carry, the power of honest feedback, and the magic that happens when creative minds connect. If you’re a brand interested in partnering, let’s talk: LinkedIn.Thanks for being part of this journey—PEACE!
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#51 - Ben Pendleton - Milk & Honey
“This is going to be a pretty dark interview… with suicide, Islamic dreaming, jihad… it may get a little dark. But anyhow, it is what it is, I guess. Welcome to my life.”There you have it — straight from Ben himself. Hard to top an introduction like that. But I will add this: beneath all the darkness Ben deeply cares. And despite the weight of the conversation, we shared a lot of laughs too.Ben Pendleton was born into a family deeply affected by mental illness — and as he openly shares, he didn’t quite dodge that bullet himself either. As we discover, his love of religion and inner spiritual struggle have helped him make meaning of his own suffering, his sibling’s, and others’.Ben served in the United States Marine Corps, reported from Afghanistan during the Soviet-Afghan War in 1983, and in 1991 photographed and interviewed legendary Afghan resistance commander Ahmad Shah Massoud. Ben introduced me to a side of Islam, poetry, and the Middle East I likely never would have explored on my own.As Ben says, afterward he went back to working construction — “boringly, scraping paint.” Well… I’m not sure I quite buy that. You can decide for yourself.I feel genuinely lucky to bring Ben’s story, and in many ways the parts of ourselves we often wrestle with most, to you.Welcome to Episode 51.Check Out:Ben’s page: The Use of Dreams in Islamic Jihad (@benyameenp)Caleb’s Café: 583 Hawk Mountain Road, Kempton, PA (normally open Saturdays 8am–2pm)Book Recs & Related Material:Massoud: An Intimate Portrait of the Legendary Afghan Leader — Marcela GradTo the Mountains: My Life in Jihad from Algeria to Afghanistan — Abdullah AnasThe Dream in Islam: From Qur’anic Tradition to Jihadist Inspiration — Iain R. EdgarSurah Yusuf (Qur’an, Chapter 12) “Song of the Bow” (David’s lament for Saul) New Church WritingsArcana Coelestia (full text archive) - see numbers 1975-1983Arcana Coelestia (Elliott), AC 5091Spiritual Experiences (#8) The Heavenly City, A Spiritual Guidebook #269Divine Providence 326Elevate the ExperienceHelp bring better audio, video, and filmed episodes to life: Venmo. I tithe 10% of all contributions—half to the All Secure Foundation (supporting soldiers’ transition home) and half to the Academy of the New Church High School.Stay ConnectedContact: https://ethanclewin.com/A Note from MeI’m inspired by the stories people carry, the power of honest feedback, and the magic that happens when creative minds connect. If you’re a brand interested in partnering, let’s talk: LinkedIn.Thanks for being part of this journey—PEACE!
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#50 - John Rienstra - Under the Helmet
John Rienstra was drafted ninth overall in the 1986 NFL Draft by the Pittsburgh Steelers and later played for the Cleveland Browns. He played under Chuck Noll, Bill Belichick, and Bruce Arians — coaches who combined for 11 Super Bowl rings. He was nicknamed The Raging Rhino. At his peak, he could total over 2,000 pounds in powerlifting.But there was always an unseen side. Since his first year at Temple, John battled crippling anxiety and panic attacks — often so severe that the only way through them was to vomit before every game. He hid it for a long time. And when coaches eventually did find out, the way they handled it said a lot about the era he played in.What John and I really dig into today is the full arc — from a boarding school dorm room in Bryn Athyn to the NFL, and everything that came after: More than 20 surgeries. Teammates who died and were posthumously diagnosed with CTE. Going from a first-round pick salary to essentially starting over. From lifting 2,000 pounds to not being able to bench 10. John is living with the cognitive effects of a career's worth of repetitive head injuries and has been part of the NFL concussion lawsuit for over two decades. His story is a hard one. But John tells it like it is, and I admire him for it — and I think you'll walk away seeing football, and a lot of other things, in a completely different light.Check Out:Penn Sports Live Podcast with John RienstraA Quiet Warrior, The Story of Former NFL Player Elevate the ExperienceHelp bring better audio, video, and filmed episodes to life: Venmo. I tithe 10% of all contributions—half to the All Secure Foundation (supporting soldiers’ transition home) and half to the Academy of the New Church High School.Stay ConnectedContact: https://ethanclewin.com/A Note from MeI’m inspired by the stories people carry, the power of honest feedback, and the magic that happens when creative minds connect. If you’re a brand interested in partnering, let’s talk: LinkedIn.Thanks for being part of this journey—PEACE!
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#49 - Martha Pitcairn - Too Soon to Tell
Martha is a coach, a listener, and what she calls a "lay midwife for women's spirits" — someone who helps people come home to themselves.She’s also my godmother. She's known me since before I knew myself. That should be enough said.In this episode, we talk about what it means to truly see someone, why anger is almost always thwarted love, the stories we carry that keep us small, and why the hardest parts of our lives might be exactly what we were handed on purpose.Just Martha and me, doing what we've always done.Welcome to Episode 49.Elevate the ExperienceHelp bring better audio, video, and filmed episodes to life: Venmo. I tithe 10% of all contributions—half to the All Secure Foundation (supporting soldiers’ transition home) and half to the Academy of the New Church High School.Stay ConnectedContact: https://ethanclewin.com/A Note from MeI’m inspired by the stories people carry, the power of honest feedback, and the magic that happens when creative minds connect. If you’re a brand interested in partnering, let’s talk: LinkedIn.Thanks for being part of this journey—PEACE!
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Join me as I confront what terrifies me—including launching this podcast—in hopes of unearthing truths that set us free and help recover personal authority to forge a path uniquely our own. This podcast exists to raise to light the stories, life experiences, and messages of people from everyday walks of life. No single topic—just a shared journey aiming upward. I invite you to come alongside me as I live out this journey. After all, there’s no better time than the now.
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