The Future Law Podcast

In this final episode for the season Mike and Dan chat about what they’ve both learnt about ALSP’S, what’s to come of them and how they impact the legaltech world.  We’ll be back next season for more on law and technology.  [This episode was published originally on February 7, 2023.]

In this week’s episode Mike Madison chats to Michael Morneualt, a lawyer who started his career in business development, and then joined a tech company building a litigation support practice.  Michael talks extensively about dispute resolution, as well as using data science in other areas of law.   Make sure you tune in every Tuesday for everything legaltech, ALSP’s and law.  [This episode was published originally on January 31, 2023.]

In this episode Dan Hunter chats with Isabel Parker, former Chief Legal Innovation Officer at Freshfields in London, and author of the recent book ‘Successful Digital Transformation in Law Firms’ about the issues law firms face nowadays and how to address them.   Make sure you tune in every Tuesday for everything legaltech, ALSP’s and law.  [This episode was published originally on January 24, 2023.]

We’re back to continue the season for 2023!  Every now and then we a broader view of the future of law, beyond ALSPs, and in this episode we do just that.  Mike Madison chats with Eric Holder, former Attorney General of the US under President Barack Obama, about the critical importance of defending and advancing voting rights in the American system and in democracy generally.   The conversation draws on his recent book, “Our Unfinished March.” What are your thoughts?  Make sure you tune in every Tuesday for everything legaltech, ALSP’s and law.  [This episode was published originally on January 17, 2023.]

This is a “big ideas” episode, part of our goal to bring out “big ambitious ideas about the future” as well as day to day concerns about ALSPs and legal services.  Law professor Orly Lobel talks with host Mike Madison about her new book, The Equality Machine: Harnessing Digital Technology for a Brighter, More Inclusive Future, recently named one of the best books of 2022 by The Economist magazine.  In the conversation and in the book, she talks about how scepticism about AI and robots can get overblown. Are they always uncontrollable, incomprehensible, privacy-eating systems? She argues no: in proper measure they have the power to do enormous good in the world.  Much of the book draws its argument from beyond law, so in this episode she focused on the specifics of the legal world, especially when it comes to access to justice and dispute resolution systems. Make sure you tune in every Tuesday for everything legaltech, ALSP’s and law.  [This episode was published originally on December 14, 2022.]

What if we stopped speculating about ALSPs and instead started collecting data to gather the information? Well that’s exactly what this episode is about.  Mike Madison talks with Lucy Ricca and David Engstrom from Stanford Law School about their research and what their findings were.  Make sure you tune in every Tuesday for everything legaltech, ALSP’s and law.  [This episode was published originally on December 6, 2022.]

Mike chats with Bill Henderson, a law professor at the University of Indiana who has been studying the legal services marketplace closely for nearly 20 years. Looking at “alternative” providers, he tells us what’s changed, what’s more or less the same, and what’s coming. Make sure you tune in every Tuesday for everything legaltech, ALSP’s and law.  [This episode was published originally on November 29, 2022.]

In this week’s episode Dan Hunter chats with David Pierce, the Chief Commercial Officer of Axiom, an ALSP that provides legal talent in over fourteen legal practices and twenty-nine industries..  David tells us what it takes to be a successful ALSP, what an in-house lawyer looks like and also his thoughts on the future of legal practice.    Make sure you tune in every Tuesday for everything legaltech, ALSPs and law.  [This episode was published originally on November 22, 2022.]

The emergence of ALSPs and legaltech don’t change some fundamentals of lawyering and dispute resolution. Jon Harris, founder and managing partner of Harris St. Laurent & Wechsler, a boutique law firm in New York specializing in employment law and white collar criminal defense, talks with Michael Madison about blending classic legal skills and multidisciplinary experience. Make sure you tune in every Tuesday for everything legaltech, ALSP’s and law.  [This episode was published originally on November 15, 2022.]

Despite double-digit salary growth in the legal industry, many firms are grappling with serious staffing concerns. So what do you do about it? Do you look outside your geographic boundaries? Or do you simply train up young lawyers? Alternative Legal Service Providers (ALSPs) offer a range of solutions.  Mike Madison chats with the founders of LegalEase Solutions, Tariq Hafeez and Tariq Akbar, about their approach to delivering the right legal talent to law departments and corporate counsel. Make sure you tune in every Tuesday for everything legaltech, ALSP’s and law.  [This episode was published originally on November 8, 2022.]

What happens when established law firms get into the ALSP sector? This episode focuses on an ALSP start up called SixFifty, based in Salt Lake City, Utah, and SixFifty’s CEO, Kimball Parker.  SixFifty is the product of an innovative legal services program based at the law school at Brigham Young University together with investment from Wilson Sonsini, one of the leading technology law firms in the US, headquartered in Silicon Valley.  Kimball Parker walks us through the past, present, and future of SixFifty. Make sure you tune in every Tuesday for everything legaltech, ALSP’s and law.  [This episode was published originally on November 1, 2022.]

How familiar are you with Alternative Legal Service Providers (ALSP’s)? Do you think they’re still relevant? Or are they a bit ‘old school’?  Well ALSP’s are such a big and interesting sector that we decided it deserves more than just one episode!  This season Mike and Dan take a look at all types of ALSP’s, from independents and start up’s through to established and large scale.  So make sure you tune in every Tuesday for everything legaltech, ALSP’s and law.  [This episode was published originally on October 25, 2022.]

We’re back for another season!  Last time we looked at a pair of topics: legaltech, and skills and competencies that are newly prominent in the new legal market. This season, we are digging into two new themes. We’ll look at ALSPs, which stands for “Alternative Legal Service Providers,” a rapidly growing and diverse market sector in legal. And we’ll also take some swings at big themes, systems, and structures in law itself, changing with tech, with global, and more. [This episode was published originally on October 18, 2022.]

We’ve had many great guests on the show this season, from Hollywood movie producers to biographers and of course CEOs of tech companies.  In this final episode Dan and Mike chat through what they’ve learnt from their guests, and what they’ve got in store for you next season. CREDITS:  Hosts: Dan Hunter and Mike Madison Executive Producer: Pariya Taherzadeh  Editor/Mixer: Pariya Taherzadeh This podcast is powered by Queensland University of Technology. [This episode was published originally on June 27, 2022.]

Curiosity is the key skill that lies beneath the headlines about the future of law. Beyond new technology and leadership skills, what is curiosity and how does it matter? Curiosity can pull you out of routines. It can introduce you to new opportunities. It can help you do more for clients. What else?  In this episode Mike chats to Lynn Borton, host of a radio show and podcast called ‘Choose To Be Curious’, about the different uses of curiosity in your career and your life.  CREDITS:  Guest: Lynn Borton – https://lynnborton.com/  Podcast: ‘Choose To Be Curious’ – https://apple.co/3QLv8RC  Host: Mike Madison Executive Producer: Pariya Taherzadeh  Editor/Mixer: Fyona Smith This podcast is powered by Queensland University of Technology. [This episode was published originally on August 22, 2022.]

From a young age we’re taught that ‘education is the key’, but what if after years of studying in the field of law you decide to completely change direction? Will it get you ahead of it all, or have you wasted your time?  In this special bonus episode Mike Madison chats with lawyer, investor, and author Adam Pascarella of “Reversed in Part: 15 Law School Grads on Pursuing Non-Traditional Careers” about whether law is a gateway to a lot of things, not just practising law.  CREDITS: Guest: Adam Pascarella – https://www.adampascarella.com/   Book: ‘Reversed in Part: 15 Law School Grads on Pursuing Non-Traditional Careers’ – https://reversedinpart.com/ Host: Mike MadisonExecutive Producer: Pariya Taherzadeh Editor/Mixer: Pariya Taherzadeh This podcast is powered by Queensland University of Technology. [This episode was published originally on July 25, 2022.]

You can definitely learn a thing or two from those who aren’t necessarily in the field of law. That’s why Mike Madison chats to lawyer-turned-prize-winning-biographer John Matteson about how future lawyers draw on the talents of historians and biographers – and the reverse. CREDITS Guest: John Matteson – https://amzn.to/3O8TMdv Hosts: Dan Hunter and Mike Madison Executive Producer: Pariya Taherzadeh Editor/Mixer: Pariya Taherzadeh This podcast is powered by Queensland University of Technology. [This episode was published originally on June 13, 2022.]

Starting a start up isn’t easy… or is it? In this episode of Future Law Podcast, Dan Hunter chats with the CEO of Checkbox.AI, Evan Wong – the automation platform provider, about life as a founder of legaltech solutions and how to break into the field. CREDITS Guest: Evan Wong Hosts: Dan Hunter and Mike Madison Executive Producer: Pariya Taherzadeh Editor/Mixer: Fyona Smith Supervising Editor: Pariya Tahezadeh This podcast is powered by Queensland University of Technology. [This episode was published originally on May 30, 2022.]

The legal imagination often borrows from unexpected sources, one of those being a baking show! Watching baking competitions inspired Freshfields senior litigation partner Tim Harkness to reflect on different models of talent management in today’s law practice. Mike Madison talks with Tim about his new article, “Learning from baking shows,” in the April 2022 issue of Modern Lawyer. CREDITS Guest: Tim Harkness Hosts: Dan Hunter and Mike Madison Executive Producer: Pariya Taherzadeh Editor/Mixer: Pariya Taherzadeh This podcast is powered by Queensland University of Technology. [This episode was published originally on May 16, 2022.]

Do you think it’s time to move past “thinking like a lawyer” as the key skill set that legal experts bring to their clients’ problems? As legal tech gets better and better, clients increasingly want more from their counsel: problem solving capabilities for dealing with “wicked” problems. In this episode, Mike Madison speaks to senior lawyer and Managing Director Duc Trang at legal recruiters Major, Lindsey & Africa, about what success as a lawyer looks like in a world where AI technology is more and more powerful. Plus, Duc shares tips and lessons for both new and experienced lawyers. CREDITS Hosts: Dan Hunter and Mike Madison Executive Producer: Pariya Taherzadeh Editor/Mixer: Fyona Smith This podcast is powered by Queensland University of Technology. [This episode was published originally on May 2, 2022.]

To code or not to code? That’s the question that legaltech founder Dorna Moini answered by creating Documate. In this episode of the Future Law Podcast Dorna speaks to Dan about why it’s ok to be ashamed of your first tech build, as well as the skills and dispositions needed for the future of law. CREDITSHosts: Dan Hunter and Mike MadisonExecutive Producer: Pariya TaherzadehEditor/Mixer: Fyona Smith This podcast is powered by Queensland University of Technology. [This episode was published originally on April 18, 2022.]

How are incumbent lawyers standing in the way of the future of law? And what are future-oriented innovators doing about that? Mike Madison chats with Eddie Hartman, well-known as a co-founder of the online legal technology company LegalZoom, and now a consultant and investor. Eddie focuses on thinking differently about the challenges and opportunities associated with expanding markets for legal services. Eddie shares his vision for strategizing solutions to Access to Justice problems, talking about practitioners, regulators, technologists – and investors. And he illustrates with his recent experience, using design strategies and technology, in bringing interdisciplinary teams together to overcome barriers in the legal system. CREDITSHosts: Dan Hunter and Mike MadisonExecutive Producer: Pariya TaherzadehEditor/Mixer: Pariya Taherzadeh This podcast is powered by Queensland University of Technology. [This episode was published originally on April 4, 2022.]

Lots of legal problems can be answered quickly, cheaply, and automatically – if only someone sat down and mapped out the steps. It’s just that there aren’t simple-to-use systems to do this. So, two young lawyers and a computer programmer decided it was time to make a change. Dan chats to Chief Operating Officer and Co-Founder at Josef, Sam Flynn about an automated product he and his co-founder created, tailored for legal environments. Sam let’s us in on how he built a commercially-appealing chatbot platform as well as a fast growing legaltech company. CREDITS Hosts: Dan Hunter and Mike Madison Executive Producer: Pariya Taherzadeh Editor/Mixer: Pariya Taherzadeh This podcast is powered by Queensland University of Technology. [This episode was published originally on March 21, 2022.]

What do you think of when you hear an orchestra? Is it the music? Perhaps you imagine the conductor standing in front of a large orchestra waving their hands around? What does all this have to do with law you ask? Good question, we asked it too. In this episode, Mike Madison chats with a conductor who has been leading symphonies and orchestras around the world for more than 30 years – Scott Speck, about how to guide a collection of experts so that the “music” matches the vision. CREDITSHosts: Dan Hunter and Mike MadisonExecutive Producer: Pariya TaherzadehEditor/Mixer: Pariya Taherzadeh This podcast is powered by Queensland University of Technology. [This episode was published originally on March 7, 2022.]

The growing role of technology in the legal industry is changing a lot of things for lawyers, but some fundamentals aren’t changing at all. One of those fundamentals is the key role that stories and storytelling play in legal practice, in judging, in designing and running systems, and in making and applying public policy. In this episode, Mike Madison interviews the Hollywood producer of American Beauty, Down With Love, Silver Linings Playbook, Milk, and the upcoming Rustin – Bruce Cohen, chatting about how filmmakers and lawyers both need to engage and persuade various audiences through storytelling. CREDITS Hosts: Dan Hunter and Mike MadisonExecutive Producer: Pariya TaherzadehEditor/Mixer: Pariya Taherzadeh This podcast is powered by Queensland University of Technology. [This episode was published originally on February 21, 2022.]

A lot has changed since the global pandemic hit, especially within the law industry. Working remotely has become the norm, and with that comes tech changes to the law. But what’s going to stay around once the pandemic eases up? The answer: everything! In this week’s episode Mike and Dan talk about what matters, and what doesn’t, when it comes to lawyers knowing and using tech, including automation solutions, AI, and … blockchain. Plus, do you need coding skills in order to make it in law? Will you fall behind if you don’t? The Future Law Podcast cuts through the noise and gets to the point. CREDITSHosts: Dan Hunter and Mike MadisonExecutive Producer: Pariya TaherzadehEditor/Mixer: Pariya Taherzadeh This podcast is powered by Queensland University of Technology. [This episode was published originally on February 7, 2022.]

Are you worried about what automation will look like for you? Perhaps you’re curious about how the disruptions of the pandemic will affect your job? Well, this season Mike Madison and Dan Hunter look at the skills and competencies of future law. Starting off the first episode of the year, Dan and Mike look at the changes they’ve observed in the legal industry over these last two years and how to best deal with this change. CREDITSHosts: Dan Hunter and Mike MadisonExecutive Producer: Pariya TaherzadehEditor/Mixer: Pariya Taherzadeh This podcast is powered by Queensland University of Technology. [This episode was published originally on February 7, 2022.]

We’re back for 2022 and this year we’re shaking things up a little! This season we’re delving into the skills and competencies in law: what’s classic and still in need, what’s new, and what’s getting more critical. We’ll also be looking at ways computers, algorithms, and data are being used to help (or maybe hinder) lawyers, clients, and even courts. Plus, every month we’ll be doing a deep dive with professionals in the industry to help you get a bit more insight into the world of law. Future Law Podcast drops Tuesday, 8 February 2022. [This episode was published originally on January 31, 2022.]

“Legal” is today’s buzzword for the roles that lawyers play inside companies. What does leading and managing “legal” look like, on the ground, in a sea of rapidly changing technology, talent, teamwork, and client needs? This episode features Stephanie Sciullo, Vice President and Chief Legal Officer of MSA Safety, a Pittsburgh-based company with a long history and a critical contemporary mission. Listen to her conversation with Future Law Podcast host Michael Madison, of the University of Pittsburgh School of Law, about coordination and complexity. Links MSA Safety [This episode was published originally on December 28, 2021.]

When will shifts to remote working bring changes to legal education as well? St. Mary’s University School of Law in San Antonio, Texas recently received American Bar Association (ABA) approval to host a cohort of its JD students in a fully online environment. Even before the arrival of the COVID pandemic in early 2020, other US law schools had moved bits and pieces of their programs online. St. Mary’s is the first school to receive accreditation for online delivery of a complete JD. In this episode of The Future Law Podcast, host Mike Madison talks with Patty Roberts, Dean of St. Mary’s Law, about that school’s plans and about how she and her colleagues navigated their proposal through design and accreditation processes. Links Dean Patricia Roberts at St. Mary’s University St. Mary’s University School of Law [This episode was published originally on December 15, 2021.]

TechLaw.Fest is a signature production by the Singapore Academy of Law, and the Future Law Podcast is pleased to continue the conversations hosted there with this podcast series on the future of law and technology. Rama Tiwari, Chief Executive of the Singapore Academy of Law, joins host Michael Madison of the University of Pittsburgh for a wide-ranging conversation about change management, in legal organizations and elsewhere. Links Rama Tiwari TechLaw.Fest Singapore Academy of Law [This episode was published originally on December 21, 2021.]

TechLaw.Fest is a signature production by the Singapore Academy of Law, and the Future Law Podcast is pleased to continue the conversations hosted there with this podcast series on the future of law and technology. This third episode in the series dives into law and technology at the heart of the technology industry, with a conversation about contemporary law practice in Silicon Valley. How are the needs and interests of the tech industry – and the needs and interests of everyone else – affecting the present and future of law practice? Host Michael Madison talks with Ashlie Beringer, partner in the Palo Alto office of global law firm Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher, as she reflects on how she keeps pace with the complexity of law in the age of technology. Links TechLaw.Fest Singapore Academy of Law Ashlie Beringer at Gibson, Dunn Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher [This episode was published originally on December 13, 2021.]

TechLaw.Fest is a signature production by the Singapore Academy of Law, and the Future Law Podcast is pleased to continue the conversations hosted there with this podcast series on the future of law and technology. This second episode in the series features a conversation about judging and the role of automation and artificial intelligence (AI) in courts. Will robots replace judges? Hear from two senior lawyers with very different backgrounds: Ken Hwee Tan, Chief Transformation and Innovation Officer for the Singapore Judiciary, and Bridget Mary McCormack, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Michigan. They were interviewed by Future Law Podcast host Michael Madison, of the University of Pittsburgh School of Law. Can they find common ground? Links TechLaw.Fest Singapore Academy of Law Ken Hwee Tan Chief Justice McCormak’s official biography Chief Justice McCormack’s Twitter account [This episode was published originally on December 6, 2021.]

TechLaw.Fest is a signature production by the Singapore Academy of Law, and the Future Law Podcast is pleased to continue the conversations hosted there with this podcast series on the future of law and technology. This episode features a conversation with Joyce A. Tan, a leading Singapore-based technology law, on innovation and technology and the challenges of staying one step ahead of the legal curve – or more. She is interviewed by Future Law Podcast host Michael Madison, of the University of Pittsburgh School of Law. Links TechLaw.Fest Singapore Academy of Law Joyce A. Tan and Partners [This episode was published originally on November 29, 2021.]

The future of law brings urgency to long-standing questions about diversity and inclusion in the legal profession. This episode looks that those questions at ground level, in a complex business law firm. It features an interview with Ellen McGinnis, a senior partner at the Haynes & Boone, a global firm with its roots in Texas. Ellen works in financial markets as co-chair of the firm’s Fund Finance Practice Group. She has been a leader in the firm and beyond on questions of diversity and inclusion. Links Ellen McGinnis at Haynes & Boone Article: “Changing Hallway Behavior: How to Interrupt Implicit Bias,” by Ellen McGinnis and Jennifer Reddien Ellen McGinnis is also co-founder of YaleWomen, an organization for and by graduates of Yale University that is committed to advancing women’s voices in the world. [This episode was published originally on December 1, 2021.]

Bridget Mary McCormack, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Michigan, has been aggressively pursuing court reform in that state’s courts. But “court reform” doesn’t begin to describe the scope, ambition, and impact of what Michigan has been able to accomplish. Nor does the phrase “access to justice.” Listen to Chief Justice McCormack’s provocative tour of the future of law, in conversation with Mike Madison Links Chief Justice McCormack’s official biography Her Twitter account [This episode was published originally on November 17, 2021.]

Orrick, one of the world’s best-known law firms, partners with The Future Law Podcast for a 4-episode look around the organization, taking stock of its people, its innovation practices, its organizational design, and its industry partnerships. This fourth episode in The Orrick series features a talk about Alternative Legal Service Providers (ALSPs) and related law and legal industry providers. Are they law firm competitors? Clients? Partners? What are the big picture drivers and the functioning nuts and bolts of the legal services ecology? Daryl Shetterly, Director of Orrick Analytics; Liam Brown, CEO of Elevate Services; and Basha Rubin, CEO of Priori Legal join host Michael Madison for this episode. Links Orrick Elevate Services Priori Legal Daryl Shetterly at Orrick Liam Brown, CEO of Elevate Services Basha Rubin, CEO of Priori Legal [This episode was published originally on November 22, 2021.]

Orrick, one of the world’s best-known law firms, partners with The Future Law Podcast for a 4-episode look around the organization, taking stock of its people, its innovation practices, its organizational design, and its industry partnerships. This third episode in The Orrick series features a talk about global operations and specifically about Orrick’s Global Operations and Innovation Center (GOIC), its facility in Wheeling, West Virginia. How has the GOIC evolved over time, and what roles do the GOIC and the GOIC play in Orrick’s practice today? The Director of Orrick’s GOIC, Kelly Cullen, and the firm’s Director of Firmwide Office Administration Will Turani join host Michael Madison for this episode. Links Orrick Kelly Cullen at Orrick Will Turani at Orrick [This episode was published originally on November 15, 2021.]

Orrick, one of the world’s best-known law firms, partners with The Future Law Podcast for a 4-episode look around the organization, taking stock of its people, its innovation practices, its organizational design, and its industry partnerships. This second episode in The Orrick series features a talk about innovation. What does innovation mean in a contemporary Big Law firm? How does the firm practice and prioritize innovation in the day to day? Orrick’s Chief Innovation Officer Wendy Butler Curtis and Senior Innovation Counsel Kate Orr join host Michael Madison for this episode. Links Orrick Wendy Butler Curtis at Orrick Kate Orr at Orrick [This episode was published originally on November 8, 2021.]

Orrick, one of the world’s best-known law firms, partners with The Future Law Podcast for a 4-episode look around the organization, taking stock of its people, its innovation practices, its organizational design, and its industry partnerships. This first episode in The Orrick series features a talk about talent. How does Orrick think about and practice talent recruitment, retention, mentorship, and training in the contemporary marketplace? Orrick’s Chief Talent Officer Siobhan Handley and talent consultant Bryan Parker, CEO of Legal Innovators, join host Michael Madison for this episode. Links Orrick Legal Innovators Siobhan Handley at Orrick Bryan Parker at Legal Innovators [This episode was published originally on November 1, 2021.]

Alex Hamilton, founder and CEO of Radiant Law, left a Big Law partnership behind 10 years ago to start an organization that offers a different way to deliver commercial contracting services to clients. He hasn’t looked back. In this episode of The Future Law Podcast, he sits down with host Michael Madison for a frank assessment of the Radiant Law story so far and what lies ahead. Alex Hamilton at Radiant Law LinkedIn Book: “Sign Here: The Enterprise Guide to Closing Contracts Quickly” [This episode was published originally on November 1, 2021.]

Anusia Gillespie is a legal innovator, practicing and advancing NewLaw ideas. In this episode of the Future Law Podcast, she talks with host Michael Madison about what NewLaw means and how she moved from a “typical” US law degree to a NewLaw leadership role. Anusia Gillespie at LinkedIn Anusia Gillespie on Twitter Anusia Gillespie on NewLaw at Legal Evolution [This episode was published originally on October 15, 2021.]

Ivan Fong brings more than three decades of experience with law and technology to his role as Chief Legal Officer of the 3M Company, in private law practice, in-house roles, and government service. Host Mike Madison catches up with Ivan for a look back and look forward at what it takes to succeed in the legal profession when you’re facing an uncertain environment. Links Biography: Ivan K. Fong [This episode was published originally on October 1, 2021.]

The future of law is, in a word, people. But are the people ready? Are new lawyers being prepared effectively to transition from the worlds of their formal education and training to the dynamic and different worlds of the 21st century legal workplace? Host Mike Madison talks with lawyer and legal entrepreneur Krista Contino Saumby, founder of a new consultancy that targets that transition space: The Law Bridge, Links The Law Bridge Krista Contino Saumby (LinkedIn) Krista Contino Saumby writes about her experience and motivations [This episode was published originally on September 15, 2021.]

The Liquid Legal Institute is a Germany-based think tank and platform for action that aims to develop common standards for law practice and legal services using cutting-edge technology. In this episode of the Future Law Podcast, host Mike Madison talks with LLI co-founders Dierk Schindler and Bernhard Waltl about their vision for the LLI, and what the LLI is doing today. Links Liquid Legal Institute Dierk Schindler at LinkedIn Bernhard Waltl at LinkedIn Book: Liquid Legal: Transforming Legal into a Business Savvy, Information Enabled and Performance Driven Industry Book: Liquid Legal: Towards a Common Legal Platform [This episode was published originally on September 1, 2021.]

“What’s the future of knowledge?” comes to ground for law and lawyers in this wide-ranging podcast interview featuring Ian Rodwell, Head of Client Knowledge and Learning at Linklaters, the global London-based law firm. Host Mike Madison and Ian touch on information science, Brian Eno, and football (the original kind) as they explore what’s on tap for the future of practice. Links Ian Rodwell, at Linklaters Knowledge and learning at Linklaters [This episode was published originally on August 15, 2021.]

The “regulatory sandbox” in Utah is a leading example of innovation to promote innovation – and justice. On this episode of The Future Law Podcast, host Mike Madison talks with two of the key leaders of the Utah legal community, state Supreme Court Justice Deno Himonas and former Utah bar president John Lund, about how the sandbox came about and what it promises to do. Links: The Office of Legal Services Innovation of the Utah Supreme Court Justice Constandinos (“Deno”) Himonas John Lund, at Parsons, Behle & Latimer [This episode was published originally on August 1, 2021.]

Jordan Furlong brings an unusual sharp and critical eye to conversations about the future of law, as a consultant, author, and former lawyer. He pulled no punches in this wide-ranging conversation with host Michael Madison, covering lawyer licensing, legal literacy, the rule of law, and the fundamental values that characterize the best of the legal profession, from ancient times to the present. Links Law21, Jordan Furlong’s consultancy The Law21 blog Jordan Furlong on Twitter [This episode was published originally on July 15, 2021.]

Michael Sears spent three decades as an investor and CEO in Silicon Valley after a first career as an officer in the Marine Corps, followed by law and business degrees. Now he is back at the United States Naval Academy, leading a leadership innovation lab as part of the Academy’s continuing requirement that all midshipmen advance through a curriculum in leadership, ethics, and law. His distinctive background offers fertile ground for reflection in this episode, on cross-pollination among cultures and practices of tech innovation, military service, and the legal profession. Links Michael Sears at the Stockdale Center for Ethical Leadership The Stockdale Center for Ethical Leadership The Boeing Leadership Innovation Laboratory Interactive Leadership Simulations Radio Stockdale: podcasts [This episode was published originally on July 1, 2021.]

Future law means understanding worlds beyond law. Lawyers spend a lot of time talking to other lawyers. This episode features a fascinating conversation with Vikram Mansharamani, a consultant, author, and importantly, not a lawyer, about macro trends in the economy and society that will inevitably come to affect legal professionals and legal systems. Link Vikram Mansharamani,Think for Yourself: Restoring Common Sense in an Age of Experts and Artificial Intelligence (Harvard Business Review Press, 2020) [This episode was published originally on June 15, 2021.]