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The Grace & Form Podcast
by graceandform
Are you ballet curious? The Grace & Form podcast is your backstage pass to the world of movement and the stories that shape it. Hosted by the founders of the ballet and workout app Grace & Form, Indiana Woodward (Principal Ballerina at New York City Ballet) and Saskia Gregson-Williams (Bestselling Author), we share the inspiring journeys of top dancers, creators, and artists who find joy and purpose through movement. Each episode explores their careers, life lessons, and how they’ve learned to be a little kinder to themselves along the way.
Episodes
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Season 2 Finale: Advice from Megan Fairchild, Esteban Hernandez, Ashton Edwards, Katherine Barkman and more!
What is the advice that stays with you long after the curtain falls? In this Season 2 finale of the Grace & Form Podcast, we bring together the most powerful, honest, and unexpected pieces of wisdom from dancers, directors, and creative leaders across the ballet world. From Megan Fairchild…
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Lauren Lovette: On Spreading Her Wings
Former New York City Ballet Principal, choreographer, and creative force, Lauren Lovette has always felt most at home in the studio where curiosity, fear, and becoming collide. In this intimate conversation, Lauren reflects on starting ballet later than most, navigating performance anxiety…
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Stories From The Stage: Mira Nadon, Alexa Maxwell, Naomi Corti, Christina Clark and KJ Takahashi
Stories From the Stage brings together five extraordinary dancers: Mira Nadon, Alexa Maxwell, Naomi Corti, Christina Clark, and KJ Takahashi - for an honest, hilarious, and deeply human look at what really happens behind the curtain. Hosted by Indiana Woodward and Saskia Gregson-Williams, this...
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Tamara Rojo: How to Lead an Art Form Forward
In this episode, Tamara Rojo reflects on a career shaped by courage, curiosity, and conviction. From navigating ballet as an outsider to leading major institutions from within, she shares how intentional leadership, creative risk, and respect for tradition can coexist. Tamara speaks openly about...
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Taylor Stanley: Bringing Your Whole Self to the Stage
In this episode, we sit down with Taylor Stanley, principal dancer at New York City Ballet, for a deeply honest conversation about identity, self-acceptance, and what it means to take up space on stage and in life. Taylor reflects on growing up in ballet, navigating gender and fluidity within a...
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Gonzalo Garcia: A Full-Circle Journey to a New Chapter at Miami City Ballet
In this episode, we sit down with Gonzalo Garcia as he steps into a new chapter as Artistic Director of Miami City Ballet. Gonzalo reflects on the full-circle journey that brought him back to the very studio where his training began in Zaragoza, Spain, a return that now marks the start of his...
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Gillian Murphy: 29 Years at ABT and the Power of Presence
In this episode, we sit down with the legendary Gillian Murphy to reflect on her extraordinary 29-year career at American Ballet Theatre. From joining the company at 17 to her unforgettable final bow as Odette, Gillian shares the moments that shaped her, the roles that changed her, and the…
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The Injury Episode P2: Julie Kent, Maria Kowroski, Harrison Coll, Zimmi Coker, Miko Fogarty, Cameron Gomez, Dr. David Williams & Caroline Krumm
In part two of our injury series, we look at injury through connected angles: how company culture is shifting, the perspectives of those who care for dancers’ bodies, and the ways injuries can open the door to unexpected new chapters. You’ll hear from dancers and practitioners across the ballet...
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Patricia Delgado: On Returning to Your Roots & Reimagining What’s Possible
In this intimate and expansive conversation, Patricia Delgado, Tony Award–winning choreographer, Juilliard faculty member, and proud Cuban-American artist opens up about the many chapters that shaped her: dancer, teacher, mother, collaborator, sister, and now, a choreographer discovering her own...
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Gilbert Bolden III: Making the Suit That Suits You
Gilbert Bolden III is a newly minted principal dancer with New York City Ballet, a designer, choreographer, and an artist who brings joy, fluidity, and individuality into everything he does. Earlier this year, he ruptured his Achilles mid Scotch Symphony- but instead of spiralling into crisis,...
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The Injury Episode P1: Craig Hall, Sara Mearns, Thomas Forster, Isabella LaFreniere, Alexa Maxwell, Cameron Gomez
In this special episode of Grace & Form, we’re doing something a little different. This is Part One of our two-part deep dive into injury - a universal experience for dancers, yet one that’s rarely spoken about with honesty and care. In this episode, we hear voice notes and reflections from…
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Maria Kochetkova: A Career Around the World
From Moscow to London, San Francisco to Copenhagen, Maria Kochetkova has built a career defined by courage, curiosity, and conviction. In this episode, she reflects on her early years at the Bolshoi Ballet School, leaving Russia to find artistic freedom, and the challenges of carving a path in an...
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Craig Salstein: The Scaffolding of a Great Dancer
Craig Salstein-NYCB repertory director, longtime ABT soloist, teacher, and Broadway collaborator-shares grounded, generous advice for dancers navigating the hard parts: injury, casting politics, and self-comparison. With trademark humor and clarity, Craig makes a case for “dancing smart”: build...
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Misty Copeland: Five Years Away and One Final Bow with ABT
Misty Copeland joins Saskia Gregson-Williams and Indiana Woodward on the Grace & Form Podcast for an intimate, reflective conversation about stepping away, returning, and saying goodbye to ABT. After five years off stage, Misty shares the perspective she gained outside of ballet, the injuries and...
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Jovani Furlan: The Leap That Changed Everything
In this episode of the Grace & Form podcast, we’re joined by New York City Ballet principal dancer and founder of Furlan Dancewear, Jovani Furlan. From his early training at the Bolshoi school in Brazil to dancing on some of the world’s biggest stages, Jovani shares the pivotal moments that…
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Ballet, Business & Best Friends: The Story Behind Grace & Form
In this special episode, co-founders Saskia Gregson-Williams and Indiana Woodward sit down for an honest conversation about friendship, creativity, and the leap from barre to business. From meeting through the ballet world to building Grace & Form from the ground up, they reflect on the highs…
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India Bradley: Pointe Shoes, Pressure & Self-Belief
In this powerful and personal episode, New York City Ballet’s India Bradley opens up about what it means to be the “first”; the first Black Dewdrop, the first in many roles - and the complex weight that comes with it. From her early years in Detroit to finding her voice at Dance Theatre of Harlem...
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Saskia Gregson-Williams: How Ballet Led Me to Start a Business at 15
In this intimate episode, Indiana turns the mic on her co-host and best friend, Saskia Gregson-Williams. Saskia’s journey as a ballet dancer, entrepreneur, and wellness creative has been anything but linear. Together they unpack the journey: homesickness, bullying, burnout, early independence, ,...
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Chun Wai Chan: How I Learned to Dance Smarter, Not Harder
From Guangzhou to New York, cramping on stage to commanding the spotlight, Chun Wai Chan shares the story of how grit, laughter, and letting go helped him become the first Chinese principal dancer at New York City Ballet. In this episode of Grace & Form, Chun opens up about the physical and…
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Indiana Woodward: Body Image, Self-Love, and the Journey Between
From growing up between continents to rising through the ranks of New York City Ballet, your co-host Indiana Woodward shares her deeply personal journey with body image, identity, and learning to embrace herself fully. In this candid conversation, she opens up about the pressures of ballet, the...
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Sara Mearns: Dancing Beyond Expectation, through Burnout and Hearing Loss
In this episode, Principal Dancer Sara Mearns joins us for a raw and wide-ranging conversation about how life onstage has shifted, and how she’s shifted with it. She shares the reality of living with hearing loss for over a decade, what it was like to finally hear her own solo again, and how that...
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Unity Phelan: Resilience, Artistry, and Choosing Your Path
Unity Phelan’s journey to becoming a principal with New York City Ballet wasn't linear, and in this episode, she opens up about the doubts, decisions, and quiet determination that got her there. From facing early rejection to finding her voice as both an artist and a person, Unity shares what it...
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Skylar Brandt: Owning Your Individuality
In this episode, we sit down with Skylar Brandt, principal dancer with American Ballet Theatre, to explore how she's forged a path that’s uniquely her own. Skylar opens up about the challenges and triumphs of embracing her individuality in a traditional art form, the lessons she's learned along…
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Payal Kadakia Pujji: Class Pass Founder on How She Danced Her Way to a Billion-Dollar Business
In this powerful and heartfelt episode, we sit down with Payal Kadakia Puiji, founder of ClassPass and Sa Dance Company, to trace the incredible path from basement dance classes to boardrooms, sold-out performances, and building a billion-dollar business. Payal shares how her love of dance helped...
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Devon Teuscher: The Quiet Strength Behind the Spotlight
In this episode, we sit down with Devon Teuscher, principal dancer at American Ballet Theatre, to explore the extraordinary journey behind the curtain. Devon shares how dance became her sanctuary through her childhood; offering her presence, purpose, and safety when so much felt uncertain. We…
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Wendy Whelan: The Evolution of a Dancer
From Center Stage to Leadership, we sit down with Wendy Whelan to explore learning, letting go, and lifting the next generation. A former New York City Ballet principal dancer and current associate artistic director, Wendy shares her incredible journey—from performing at the height of her career…
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Introucing The Grace & Form Podcast
Introducing, The Grace & Form Podcast – your backstage pass to the world of movement and the stories that shape it. Join us as we sit down with dancers, creators, and artists who find joy and inspiration through movement. From career-defining moments to lessons in resilience, we explore the...
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Are you ballet curious? The Grace & Form podcast is your backstage pass to the world of movement and the stories that shape it. Hosted by the founders of the ballet and workout app Grace & Form, Indiana Woodward (Principal Ballerina at New York City Ballet) and Saskia Gregson-Williams (Bestselling Author), we share the inspiring journeys of top dancers, creators, and artists who find joy and purpose through movement. Each episode explores their careers, life lessons, and how they’ve learned to be a little kinder to themselves along the way.
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Are you ballet curious? The Grace & Form podcast is your backstage pass to the world of movement and the stories that shape it. Hosted by the founders of the ballet and workout app Grace & Form, Indiana Woodward (Principal Ballerina at New York City Ballet) and Saskia Gregson-Williams (Bestselling...
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