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The Great Careers Program

by Liv Pennie and Marian Wright

You know that one great careers program your school has been searching for? The one that will prepare your students for the future, solve your engagement problems and finally show students there's a point to all this learning they're doing? That one single solution was never going to come in a box. It can't be handed to one person, and it definitely isn't something that starts in Year 10. A great careers program is not something you find on a shelf. It is something you build into the conditions and architecture of the way you do schooling. Marian Wright is a systems thinker working at the intersection of school design and student futures through Coherence Co-Lab. Liv Pennie is the CEO and Co-Founder of BECOME Education and genuinely optimistic about what young people are capable of when schools design the right conditions. Each episode they tackle one big question, dig into the evidence, and leave you with something you can actually use. <

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Episodes

  1. Episode 4: How do we get leadership to see this is a gap? + More questions from you.

    Liv and Marian are back with an Ask Us Anything Episode, answering questions from people who are on the ground in schools and universities. No guest, no script, unfiltered and real. We've got questions about whether career uncertainty is helpful, whether AI career tools have any benefits, how...

  2. One more thing! Are entry level jobs disappearing? Chris Webb says there's more to the story.

    Liv and Marian have a lot to say. One More Thing is where the overflow goes. This one is from Episode 3, continuing the conversation with Chris Webb. If you're a graduate right now, applying into a pool of a thousand candidates for one role, it's easy to feel like the whole system is broken....

  3. Episode 3: How do we talk to students about AI and the future of work without the doom (or the hype!)?

    For decades, we've told students in school that the formula to a good future is relatively simple: work hard, get good grades, study, get a good job. It's the sequence that most schools, parents and the media anchor their narratives about the future in. But with AI reshaping how people enter and...

  4. One more thing! Bias, power, and knowing when to get out of the way.

    Liv and Marian have a lot to say, and One more thing! is where some of that overflow ends up. These are bonus, bite-sized pieces of conversation that don't end up making it into the final episode, but they are too good to leave on the cutting room floor. In this one: A five-year-old's fascination...

  5. Episode 2: Where does a great careers program live in K-12 schooling?

    Everyone agrees careers education matters. So why does it keep ending up on the periphery of school life and one person's responsibility? In this episode Liv and Marian ask a deceptively simple question: what is a great careers program, and whose job is it actually? They zoom into the evidence on...

  6. One more thing! Are career tests helpful or harmful to a young person's agency?

    Liv and Marian have a lot to say, and One more thing! is where some of that overflow ends up. These are bonus, bite-sized pieces of conversation that don't end up making it into the final episode, but they are too good to leave on the cutting room floor. In this one: Career tests have been…

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  7. Episode 1: Whose decision is it anyway?

    More than half of school leavers choose a pathway to please someone else. That stat alone is worth a conversation. In this episode, Marian and Liv dig into one of the most loaded moments in a student's school life — subject selection — and ask the question that might make us a bit uncomfortable:...

  8. Trailer: Introducing The Great Careers Program

    We called the podcast The Great Careers Program. Which raises an obvious question: are we saying schools should stop buying careers programs? No. Not even close. In this short trailer, Marian and Liv address the tension head on. Yes, Liv is the co-founder and CEO of a careers program. Yes, they...

  9. An introduction: Who we are and what this show is about

    What is the great careers program? And does it actually exist? In this intro episode, Marian and Liv answer the questions you probably have before you commit to a new podcast. What is this show about, who is it for, and why are two people who come at career education from completely different...

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ABOUT THIS SHOW

You know that one great careers program your school has been searching for? The one that will prepare your students for the future, solve your engagement problems and finally show students there's a point to all this learning they're doing?

That one single solution was never going to come in a box. It can't be handed to one person, and it definitely isn't something that starts in Year 10. A great careers program is not something you find on a shelf. It is something you build into the conditions and architecture of the way you do schooling.

Marian Wright is a systems thinker working at the intersection of school design and student futures through Coherence Co-Lab. Liv Pennie is the CEO and Co-Founder of BECOME Education and genuinely optimistic about what young people are capable of when schools design the right conditions. Each episode they tackle one big question, dig into the evidence, and leave you with something you can actually use.

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Liv Pennie and Marian Wright

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How many episodes does The Great Careers Program have?

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What is The Great Careers Program about?

You know that one great careers program your school has been searching for? The one that will prepare your students for the future, solve your engagement problems and finally show students there's a point to all this learning they're doing? That one single solution was never going to come in a box....

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The Great Careers Program is created and hosted by Liv Pennie and Marian Wright.
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