The Immeasurable Podcast

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The Immeasurable Podcast

The Immeasurable is dedicated to exploring the essential questions of our existence; who we are and where we are going. The intent is to inspire listeners to question assumptions of the mind, offering opportunities to ask deep questions into common life themes that are superficially accepted. We take no ideological positions except to encourage the spirit of inquiry. We aim to provide an in-depth look at dialogue and exploration around Krishnamurti’s teachings. There will be interviews of people who have spent time with Krishnamurti, as well as explorations around the content of his teachings, our programs, and our annual conference. The Immeasurable is a project of the Krishnamurti Center in Ojai, CA. The KFA is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization.

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    TEACHINGS: Can I completely change? | ​​Krishnamurti with a Small Group | Discussion 3

    The Immeasurable Podcast highlights the third discussion of a seven-part series titled The Transformation of Humanity. This series was recorded in 1976 at Brockwood Park, where J. Krishnamurti spoke with a small group.Why do human beings live in such appalling misery, accepting it for millennia?Is it possible for a human being to change at the very root of his being?Who is going to tell me? Is it Marx, Lenin, Mao, the Pope, or the local priest? Authority exists because human beings are in disorder. In the rejection of authority I become very sane. When I reject authority I have more energy.What is correct action in life? I can only find that out if there is no disorder in me. 'Me' is the disorder. However 'real' the 'me' is, it is the source of disorder.For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:International Site - http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/jk.krishnamurtiInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/krishnamurtifoundationamericaKrishnamurti Foundation Trust, UK - https://www.kfoundation.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of America - https://www.kfa.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of India - https://www.kfionline.org/Fundación Krishnamurti Latinoamericana - https://www.fkla.org/© 1976 Krishnamurti Foundation Trust Support the show

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    TEACHINGS: A Mechanical Life Leads to Disorder | ​​Krishnamurti with a Small Group | Discussion 2

    The Immeasurable Podcast highlights the second discussion of a seven-part series titled The Transformation of Humanity. This series was recorded in 1976 at Brockwood Park, where J. Krishnamurti spoke with a small group.Is there psychological security at all, a sense of well-founded, deep-rooted existence?When you hear that there is no security, is it an abstract idea or an actual fact?My security lies in some image, a picture, a conclusion, an ideal.The brain needs order in order to function. It finds order in mechanical process because it is trained from childhood to do so.When the past meets the present and continues, it is one of the factors of time, bondage, fear. But when the past meets the present and I am completely aware of this moment, then it stops. Then I meet you as though for the first time.For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:International Site - http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/jk.krishnamurtiInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/krishnamurtifoundationamericaKrishnamurti Foundation Trust, UK - https://www.kfoundation.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of America - https://www.kfa.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of India - https://www.kfionline.org/Fundación Krishnamurti Latinoamericana - https://www.fkla.org/© 1976 Krishnamurti Foundation Trust Support the show

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    TEACHINGS: Are we aware we are fragmented? | ​​Krishnamurti with a Small Group | Discussion 1

    The Immeasurable Podcast highlights the first discussion of a seven-part series titled The Transformation of Humanity. This series was recorded in 1976 at Brockwood Park, where J. Krishnamurti spoke with a small group.How can one be aware of the wholeness of life if one is fragmented?I am a fragment and therefore am creating more fragments, more conflict, more confusion, more sorrow. Is the center the very cause of fragmentation?Does the beginning of fragmentation take place when I am seeking security?Is security in knowledge, used wrongly, one of the factors of fragmentation?Can I be free of the desire to be psychologically secure?For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:International Site - http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/krishnamurtifoundationamericaFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/jk.krishnamurtiKrishnamurti Foundation Trust, UK - https://kfoundation.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of America - https://www.kfa.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of India - https://www.jkrishnamurti.in/Fundación Krishnamurti Latinoamericana - https://fkla.org/© 1976 Krishnamurti Foundation Trust Support the show

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    INTERVIEW: Is There an Instrument Other Than Thought? | Keith Berwick with Krishnamurti | Part 2

    Krishnamurti in Conversation with Keith Berwick (Part 2)You're listening to The Immeasurable Podcast. Recorded in Los Angeles in 1983, this second part of a conversation between J. Krishnamurti and journalist Keith Berwick continues the inquiry into the nature of the self and the limits of thought.Here, Krishnamurti questions authority in all its forms—religious, political, psychological—and examines the reliance on systems, methods, and beliefs. He returns repeatedly to thought: its extraordinary capacity to create knowledge and culture, and its equally destructive role in creating fear, division, and conflict.The conversation touches on love, desire, meditation, and intelligence, but resists explanation and prescription. Instead, it raises a central question that runs through the entire exchange: whether thought is the sole instrument by which understanding takes place.This episode completes the interview. Click here to listen to part one.Follow The Immeasurable on Instagram (@krishnamurtifoundationamerica)Follow The Immeasurable on Tiktok (@j.krishnamurti)Subscribe to The Immeasurable on YouTube (@theimmeasurable)Like The Immeasurable on Facebook (facebook.com/theimmeasurable.org)Visit TheImmesurable.com Support the show

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    INTERVIEW: Why Belief Atrophies the Mind | Keith Berwick with Krishnamurti | Part 1

    Welcome back to The Immeasurable Podcast. You're listening to season five. Recorded in Los Angeles in 1983, this first part of a two-part conversation brings J. Krishnamurti into dialogue with journalist and historian Keith Berwick, a four-time Emmy Award–winning television broadcaster whose work spans journalism, education, and long-form inquiry.The interview opens with a direct and unsettling question: why did Krishnamurti, in 1929, dissolve the Order of the Star and reject the spiritual authority that had been constructed around him? His response is unequivocal. Religious organizations and belief systems, he says, have not helped human beings face the actual facts of life; instead, they have encouraged escape, conformity, and the worship of persons rather than understanding.From this point, the conversation moves to what Krishnamurti identifies as the real crisis of the modern world—not political or economic, but psychological. Violence, fear, anxiety, and sorrow persist because the human mind remains conditioned. Choice, he argues, is not freedom but a sign of confusion; where there is clarity, there is no choice, only action.A central theme of this episode is belief. Krishnamurti challenges belief in all its forms, insisting that belief dulls the brain, turns inquiry into habit, and replaces direct perception with repetition. Ritual, dogma, and identity, he suggests, gradually make the mind mechanical rather than intelligent.The dialogue also turns to death and fear. Krishnamurti questions why human beings cling to psychological attachments while fearing their ending and introduces one of his most radical assertions: that consciousness is not personal but common to all humanity, shaped by shared patterns of suffering, insecurity, and desire. The illusion of separateness, he argues, lies at the root of conflict.As the episode concludes, the discussion focuses on thought and relationship. Thought, while essential in practical life, is always limited, and when it governs inward life it produces images that fragment relationship. Where images intervene, there is no real contact. Freedom, Krishnamurti says, is not the freedom to do as one likes, but freedom from the image-building activity of thought itself.This is Part 1 of the interview. The following episode features Part 2, which continues the inquiry into the nature of the self, authority, love, meditation, and the question of whether there is an instrument of understanding other than thought.Follow The Immeasurable on Instagram (@krishnamurtifoundationamerica)Follow The Immeasurable on Tiktok (@j.krishnamurti)Subscribe to The Immeasurable on YouTube (@theimmeasurable)Like The Immeasurable on Facebook (facebook.com/theimmeasurable.org)Visit TheImmesurable.com Support the show

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    EXPLORATION: What Does It Mean to Live the Teaching?, Part 2 | David Moody, Mary Kelley, John Duncan, Francisco Mazza

    Welcome back to The Immeasurable Podcast. In this follow-up episode, we share the Q&A session that took place immediately after David Moody’s talk, “What Does It Mean to Live the Teachings?”David is joined by three fellow panelists —Mary Kelley, John Duncan, & Francisco Mazza — for a wide-ranging conversation shaped by both the live audience in the room and viewers watching online during the 2025 KFA Annual May Gathering.Together, they explore questions that naturally arise when Krishnamurti’s teaching is taken seriously: what it means to begin without a method, how “not knowing” relates to insight, whether the “impossible” is actually the only thing worth doing, and how to approach inquiry without turning the teachings into a new belief system.The discussion also touches on education, the role and danger of “interpreters,” psychological time, and what it really means to discover truth for oneself — moment by moment.Follow The Immeasurable on Instagram (@krishnamurtifoundationamerica)Follow The Immeasurable on Tiktok (@j.krishnamurti)Subscribe to The Immeasurable on YouTube (@theimmeasurable)Like The Immeasurable on Facebook (facebook.com/theimmeasurable.org)Visit TheImmesurable.com Support the show

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    EXPLORATION: What Does It Mean to Live the Teaching? | David Moody

    Welcome back to The Immeasurable Podcast. This episode features a talk from the 2025 KFA Annual May Gathering.It’s titled “What Does It Mean to Live the Teaching?” and is presented by David Moody.In his last recorded statement, just days before his death, Krishnamurti spoke of the “immense energy and intelligence” that had flowed through him for seventy years — and said that others might experience it too, if they live the teachings. But, he added, no one had done so.In this talk, David explores what it means to live the teachings, drawing from Krishnamurti’s words over many years, and reflecting on how we might approach this question ourselves.A Q&A session with the audience followed this presentation. We’ll share that conversation in the next episode.And now, here’s David Moody.David reflects on the significance of “40 years” since Krishnamurti’s last talk in Ojai (2:48)K’s final days (4:19)"...when Krishnamurti dies, what really happens to that extraordinary focus of understanding and energy that is K?" (7:04)Distinction between “the body” and “the immense energy” (10:39)What are the teachings? (16:51)Psychological conflict (27:22)What living the teachings is not (33:58)A seemingly impossible task (40:00)Choiceless awareness and its difficulties (47:50)Living the teachings as a radical undertaking (53:00)Follow The Immeasurable on Instagram (@krishnamurtifoundationamerica)Follow The Immeasurable on Tiktok (@j.krishnamurti)Subscribe to The Immeasurable on YouTube (@theimmeasurable)Like The Immeasurable on Facebook (facebook.com/theimmeasurable.org)Visit TheImmesurable.com Support the show

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    TEACHINGS: Death | J. Krishnamurti with Buddhist Scholars | Discussion 5

    The Immeasurable Podcast highlights the fifth discussion of a five-part series titled Can Humanity Change?  This series was recorded in 1978 at Brockwood Park, where J. Krishnamurti spoke with Buddhist scholars.J. Krishnamurti with Buddhist Scholars - Brockwood Park 1978 - Discussion 5: DeathSeries: Can Humanity Change?Q: Is there life after death?When the body dies the desires, the anxieties, the tragedies and the misery go on. They go on contributing to the vast common stream in which mankind lives. Each of us is representative of the whole of that stream.By inquiring into the whole nature of suffering can one end it and be out of the stream? The free inquiry into suffering is insight. As long as I accept any authority, Buddhist or otherwise, can there be insight?For the man who is no longer a manifestation of the stream, intelligence, love and compassion are operating.Q: How do you discriminate between mindfulness, awareness and attention?For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:International Site - http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/krishnamurtifoundationamericaFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/jk.krishnamurtiKrishnamurti Foundation Trust, UK - http://www.kfoundation.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of America - http://www.kfa.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of India - http://www.kfionline.org/Fundación Krishnamurti Latinoamericana - http://www.fkla.org/© 1980 Krishnamurti Foundation Trust Support the show

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    TEACHINGS: Truth | J. Krishnamurti with Buddhist Scholars | Discussion 4

    The Immeasurable Podcast highlights the fourth discussion of a five-part series titled Can Humanity Change?  This series was recorded in 1978 at Brockwood Park, where J. Krishnamurti spoke with Buddhist scholars.J. Krishnamurti with Buddhist Scholars - Brockwood Park 1978 - Discussion 4: TruthSeries: Can Humanity Change?Q: Is there a difference between reality and truth?All the things that thought has put together -- literature, poetry, painting, illusions, gods and symbols -- that is reality for us. But nature is not created by thought.Can the mind, the network of all the senses apprehend, see and observe truth?Psychological time is the invention of thought, which we use as a means of achieving enlightenment. Is such time an illusion? Is truth measurable by words? Truth is timeless, thought is of time, and the two cannot run together.Without love, without compassion, truth cannot be. I cannot go to truth, I cannot see truth. Truth can only exist when the self is not.For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:International Site - http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/krishnamurtifoundationamericaFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/jk.krishnamurtiKrishnamurti Foundation Trust, UK - http://www.kfoundation.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of America - http://www.kfa.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of India - http://www.kfionline.org/Fundación Krishnamurti Latinoamericana - http://www.fkla.org/© 1980 Krishnamurti Foundation Trust Support the show

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    TEACHINGS: Does Free Will Exist? | J. Krishnamurti with Buddhist Scholars | Discussion 3

    The Immeasurable Podcast highlights the third discussion of a five-part series titled Can Humanity Change?  This series was recorded in 1978 at Brockwood Park, where J. Krishnamurti spoke with Buddhist scholars.J. Krishnamurti with Buddhist Scholars - Brockwood Park 1978-79 - Buddhist Scholars Discussion 3 - Does Free Will Exist?Series: Can Humanity Change?We say free will exists because we can choose between this and that. Apart from material things, why is there choice?Is there an action in which there is no effort of will at all and therefore no choice?Why does thought identify with sensations? Is there duality in identification?How did thought begin in me? Was it handed down by parents, education, environment, the past?Does the word create the thought or thought creates words?Why does thought enter into action? Is there an action which is complete, total, whole, not partial?Can you see someone as a whole being? Then there is love.For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:International Site - http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/krishnamurtifoundationamericaFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/jk.krishnamurtiKrishnamurti Foundation Trust, UK - http://www.kfoundation.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of America - http://www.kfa.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of India - http://www.kfionline.org/Fundación Krishnamurti Latinoamericana - http://www.fkla.org/© 1980 Krishnamurti Foundation Trust Support the show

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    TEACHINGS: Can We Live Without Identifying? | J. Krishnamurti with Buddhist Scholars | Discussion 2

    The Immeasurable Podcast highlights the second discussion of a five-part series titled Can Humanity Change? This series was recorded in 1978 at Brockwood Park, where J. Krishnamurti spoke with Buddhist scholars.J. Krishnamurti with Buddhist Scholars - Brockwood Park 1978 - Discussion 2: Can We Live Without Identifying?Series: Can Humanity Change?Q: What is the state of the mind that is in the process of dying?What is death? Is there life after death, is there a continuity? If not, what is the point of living at all?Why is there the whole process of identification, my possessions, what I will be, success, power, prestige? The identification process is the essence of the self.Is it possible to live in daily life without this identification process which brings about the structure and the nature of the self which is the result of thought?Is it possible to be free of the "me", which produces all this chaos, this constant effort? Can thought end? Is it possible to live a daily life with death, which is the ending of the self? For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:International Site - http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/krishnamurtifoundationamericaFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/jk.krishnamurtiKrishnamurti Foundation Trust, UK - http://www.kfoundation.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of America - http://www.kfa.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of India - http://www.kfionline.org/Fundación Krishnamurti Latinoamericana - http://www.fkla.org/© 1980 Krishnamurti Foundation Trust Support the show

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    TEACHINGS: Are You Not Saying What the Buddha Said? | J. Krishnamurti with Buddhist Scholars | Discussion 1

    The Immeasurable Podcast highlights the first part of a five-part series titled Can Humanity Change?  This series was recorded in 1978 at Brockwood Park, where J. Krishnamurti spoke with Buddhist scholars. J. Krishnamurti with Buddhist Scholars - Brockwood Park 1978 - Discussion 1: Are You Not Saying What the Buddha Said?Series: Can Humanity Change?Q: Does knowledge condition human beings?Knowledge means accumulation of information, experience, facts, theories and principles, the past and the present. This bundle we call knowledge. Can a mind that is burdened with knowledge see truth?Will we get more knowledge by reading what the Buddha or Christ said? We are full of this accumulative instinct that we think will help us to jump into heaven.Can I look at the fact without the word with all its intimations, content and tradition?Can I look at something without the association of words and past remembrances? Then only I see the fact.For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:International Site - http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/krishnamurtifoundationamericaFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/jk.krishnamurtiKrishnamurti Foundation Trust, UK - http://www.kfoundation.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of America - http://www.kfa.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of India - http://www.kfionline.org/Fundación Krishnamurti Latinoamericana - http://www.fkla.org/© 1980 Krishnamurti Foundation Trust Support the show

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    EXPLORATION: War & Peace | Mark Habeeb

    Welcome back to The Immeasurable Podcast. This episode comes from a talk titled “War and Peace” at the 2022 KFA May Gathering. Despite the persistent aspiration of every generation to achieve world peace and end war, violence, and terror, these conflicts continue unabated. Most people envision a peaceful world for their children, yet the cycle of violence and ethnic hatred persists. In this talk, Mark Habeeb raises the question of whether we should abandon this seemingly unattainable goal or go deeper into understanding why we perpetuate the very actions we wish to cease. We may be challenged to have the courage to look within ourselves and recognize that the roots of war and violence lie in our own interactions and relationships.Mark Habeeb is a Professor of Global Politics and Security at Georgetown University’s School of Foreign Service in Washington, DC, where his specialty is international negotiation, conflict management, and the role of identity processes in group violence. He is a Fellow of the Middle East Studies Association, a member of the Society for the Psychological Study of Social Issues, and a member of the Board of Virginia Humanities. From 1988 to 1991 he was Chairman of the Forum for US-Soviet Dialogue. He has published widely in his field and in 2021 published his first novel. Mark received his PhD from Johns Hopkins University and also studied at the University of Sussex and the Washington Psychoanalytic Institute. He has studied the teachings of Krishnamurti for over 30 years.Follow The Immeasurable on Instagram (@krishnamurtifoundationamerica)Follow The Immeasurable on Tiktok (@j.krishnamurti)Subscribe to The Immeasurable on YouTube (@theimmeasurable)Like The Immeasurable on Facebook (facebook.com/theimmeasurable.org)Visit TheImmesurable.com Support the show

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    TEACHINGS: Can Human Problems Be Solved? | J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm | Part 15

    The Immeasurable Podcast highlights a the last part of a fifteen-part series from Ojai recorded in 1980 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with David Bohm about the ending of time. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Visit kfa.org for details.J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm - Brockwood Park 1980 - Dialogue 15: Can Human Problems Be Solved? Series: The Ending of TimeWhy have human beings not been able to resolve human, daily problems of life? What prevents the solution of these problems completely?When there is attention there is no center from which I attend.A poor man wants to be rich and a rich man wants to be richer. It is a movement of becoming, becoming, both outwardly and inwardly. Though it brings a great deal of pain and sometimes pleasure, this sense of becoming, fulfilling, achieving psychologically has made my life into all that it is. Is love something that is common to all of us?For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:International Site - http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/krishnamurtifoundationamericaFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/jk.krishnamurtiKrishnamurti Foundation Trust, UK - http://www.kfoundation.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of America - http://www.kfa.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of India - http://www.kfionline.org/Fundación Krishnamurti Latinoamericana - http://www.fkla.org/© 1980 Krishnamurti Foundation Trust Support the show

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    EXPLORATION: Pointers to the Quiet Mind, Part 2 | Stephen Smith, Jaap Sluitjer, Cory Fisher

    You’re listening to The Immeasurable Podcast. This episode is part two of Stephen Smith's talk at the KFA’s 2020 Annual May Gathering. In this episode, Stephen is joined by Cory Fisher, the former Archives and Publishing Director of the KFA, and Jaap Sluitjer, the Executive Director of the KFA, in exploring the quiet mind.Stephen is a former educator at Brockwood Park School, where he had personal contact with Krishnamurti. He was also the former Center Coordinator of the Krishnamurti Foundation of America, organizing events, facilitating dialogues, engaging with the public in Southern California as well as traveling from coast to coast.Follow The Immeasurable on Instagram (@krishnamurtifoundationamerica)Follow The Immeasurable on Tiktok (@j.krishnamurti)Subscribe to The Immeasurable on YouTube (@theimmeasurable)Like The Immeasurable on Facebook (facebook.com/theimmeasurable.org) Visit TheImmesurable.com Support the show

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    TEACHINGS: The Mind in the Universe | J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm | Part 14

    The Immeasurable Podcast highlights a fifteen-part series from Ojai recorded in 1980 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with David Bohm about the ending of time. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Visit kfa.org for details.J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm - Brockwood Park 1980 - Dialogue 14: The Mind in the UniverseSeries: The Ending of TimeIs thought a material process?Is it possible to have a mind that is really, completely empty of all the things that thought has put together?Only the insight into the nature of reaction ends psychological reaction.There is absolute stillness and in that stillness, or from that stillness, there is a movement which is everlastingly new. Can the silent movement of order affect my daily life when I have deep inward psychological order?Freedom is not a reaction.There is the universal mind, and the human mind can be of that when there is freedom.For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:International Site - http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/krishnamurtifoundationamericaFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/jk.krishnamurtiKrishnamurti Foundation Trust, UK - http://www.kfoundation.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of America - http://www.kfa.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of India - http://www.kfionline.org/Fundación Krishnamurti Latinoamericana - http://www.fkla.org/© 1980 Krishnamurti Foundation Trust Support the show

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    EXPLORATION: Pointers to the Quiet Mind | Stephen Smith

    You’re listening to The Immeasurable Podcast. This episode is a talk by Stephen Smith at the KFA’s 2020 Annual May Gathering. In this episode, Stephen explores the quiet mind. Stephen takes us on a journey through the intricate layers of consciousness, urging us to examine our fundamental perceptions and assumptions about reality. Through rigorous self-inquiry and a deep exploration of the self, he challenges us to go beyond the limitations of our conditioned minds and embrace a state of profound peace and clarity. Although it cannot be sought out, a quiet mind may be necessary to adequately address the ongoing challenges facing humanity. Join us as we uncover the transformative power of the quiet mind and its potential to revolutionize our understanding of ourselves and the world around us.Stephen is a former educator at Brockwood Park School, where he had personal contact with Krishnamurti. He was also the former Center Coordinator of the Krishnamurti Foundation of America, organizing events, facilitating dialogues, engaging with the public in Southern California as well as traveling from coast to coast.Follow The Immeasurable on Instagram (@krishnamurtifoundationamerica)Follow The Immeasurable on Tiktok (@j.krishnamurti)Subscribe to The Immeasurable on YouTube (@theimmeasurable)Like The Immeasurable on Facebook (facebook.com/theimmeasurable.org)  Support the show

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    TEACHINGS: The Ending of Psychological Knowledge | J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm | Part 13

    The Immeasurable Podcast highlights a fifteen-part series from Ojai recorded in 1980 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with David Bohm about the ending of time. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Visit kfa.org for details.J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm - Brockwood Park 1980 - Dialogue 13: The Ending of Psychological KnowledgeSeries: The Ending of TimeWhy are our minds always operating in a certain direction?What shall I do, as a human being, realizing that knowledge is naturally, inevitably forming a groove in which I live? How am I to break it down?Pure observation, which is actually listening, is that pure observation love?When I ask you to tell me what to do, I am back in the field of knowledge.We have tried everything – fasting, every kind of thing to get rid of the ‘me’ with all its knowledge, with all its illusions. One tries to identify with something else, which is the same. A serious man has done all this and comes back to the fundamental question: what will make this wall totally disappear?For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:International Site - http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/krishnamurtifoundationamericaFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/jk.krishnamurtiKrishnamurti Foundation Trust, UK - http://www.kfoundation.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of America - http://www.kfa.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of India - http://www.kfionline.org/Fundación Krishnamurti Latinoamericana - http://www.fkla. Support the show

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    EXPLORATION: Exploring Education | Darcy Gray and Jaap Sluijter

    You’re listening to The Immeasurable Podcast and this episode is an exploration on education between Darcy Gray and Jaap Sluijter. Darcy Gray's interest in Krishnamurti's teachings began in his early twenties, leading him to join the Krishnamurti School in Ojai, California, shortly after its establishment in 1975. During his three-decade tenure at Oak Grove School, he engaged in staff dialogues with Krishnamurti and David Bohm, contributing to various roles in the high school, elementary school, and administration. While teaching math and physics, traditionally approached with rote methods, Darcy prioritized innovative ways of presenting the subjects, fostering a collaborative learning atmosphere in the classroom. His teaching philosophy involved questioning both right and wrong answers, encouraging students to share their perspectives even when divergent from his expectations. Despite retiring in 2020, Darcy remained actively involved in Oak Grove School’s Krishnamurti discussions, volunteering and sustaining a profound interest in K’s questions and dialogues. Jaap Sluijter has a long-standing interest in the questions raised by Krishnamurti. Currently, Jaap is the Executive Director of the Krishnamurti Foundation of America. Previously, he lived and taught at Brockwood Park School in England. He has an MA in Mechanical Engineering and worked as a design engineer in the field of camera systems and musical instruments. Together, Darcy and Jaap discuss education, drawing insight from Krishnamurti's teachings. They explore the nuances of establishing a meaningful teacher-student relationship, emphasizing the importance of fostering independent thinking. The speakers advocate for a serious learning dynamic, addressing challenges such as fear, judgment, and bullying in the classroom and highlighting the need for clear expectations and standards.In this dialogue, Jaap and Darcy explore the intricacies of addressing conflict in school, emphasizing the examination of personal desires and vulnerability. They also discuss the impact of Krishnamurti's emphasis on questioning and awareness. The speakers concluded by challenging traditional notions of intelligence, promoting freedom from conditioning, and envisioning schools as spaces for creativity and growth, breaking away from the dichotomy of obedience and rebellion. Click here to watch the previous episode they reference, which pertains to the Flame of Learning book. You can also view this episode on YouTube.Follow The Immeasurable on Instagram (@krishnamurtifoundationamerica)Follow The Immeasurable on Tiktok (@j.krishnamurti)Subscribe to The Immeasurable on YouTube (@theimmeasurable)Like The Immeasurable on Facebook (facebook.com/theimmeasurable.org) Support the show

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    TEACHINGS: A Flame of Learning | J. Krishnamurti with Teachers | Part 2

    Welcome to The Immeasurable Podcast. This episode comes from discussions Krishnamurti had with teachers at Brockwood Park School, recorded in 1976. These dialogues were turned into a book called A Flame of Learning. In the previous episode, “Learning from Every Moment,” Leah and Pooja discuss similar themes. More specifically, they highlight how concepts like authority, discipline, and control impact students, as well as what it means to learn as an educator. This episode delves into the significance of the teacher and student, exploring topics such as authority, sensitivity, and learning. Krishnamurti emphasizes the value of collaborative learning between teachers and students.Krishnamurti said, “It is important to establish right relationship between yourself and the student. You cannot do this if you are sitting on a pedestal as a teacher and treating the students as though below you. Come off the pedestal and establish a relationship of mutual learning.” You can find this quote in the book A Flame of Learning, where you can read these dialogues in print. For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:International Site - http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/jk.krishnamurtiInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/krishnamurtifoundationamericaKrishnamurti Foundation Trust, UK - http://www.kfoundation.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of America - http://www.kfa.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of India - http://www.kfionline.org/ Support the show

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    EXPLORATION: Learning From Every Moment | Pooja Dubey & Leah Luong

    You’re listening to The Immeasurable Podcast. Welcome to our new listeners and hello again to our returning subscribers. This is the second episode in which we explore education. In this episode, Leah Luong is joined by Pooja Dubey, who comes from Delhi and is a former student of Raj Ghat Beasent School, Varanasi. For the last few years, Pooja has been actively involved in dialogues (both online and offline) at the Bangalore Study Center. In this episode, Pooja discusses her experience as a former student at the Krishnamurti School in India. Together, they explore what it means to learn, the essence of education, and how Krishnamurti schools differ from traditional educational systems. Follow The Immeasurable on Instagram (@krishnamurtifoundationamerica)Follow The Immeasurable on Tiktok (@j.krishnamurti)Subscribe to The Immeasurable on YouTube (@theimmeasurable)Like The Immeasurable on Facebook (facebook.com/theimmeasurable.org)  Support the show

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    TEACHINGS: The Intelligence of Love | J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm | Part 12

    The Immeasurable Podcast highlights a fifteen-part series from Ojai recorded in 1980 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with David Bohm about the ending of time. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Visit kfa.org for details.J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm - Brockwood Park 1980 - Dialogue 12: The Intelligence of LoveSeries: The Ending of TimeCan the mind, brain, the whole psychological structure ever be free from all conflict, from all shadow of disturbance?Thought is the outcome of psychological accumulation. That accumulation gives a sense of continuity, which is time.Why do all human beings throughout the world have the urge to become?In accumulation man has sought psychological security, and that security with its accumulation is the factor of human division.Perception without any motive, without any direction, perception of the wall which has been brought into being by this movement of accumulation, the very perception of that is intelligence and love.For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:International Site - http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/jk.krishnamurtiInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/krishnamurtifoundationamericaKrishnamurti Foundation Trust, UK - http://www.kfoundation.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of America - http://www.kfa.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of India - http://www.kfionline.org/Fundación Krishnamurti Latinoamericana - http://www.fkla.org/© 1980 Krishnamurti Foundation Support the show

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    TEACHINGS: An Order Beyond All Human Order and Disorder | J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm | Part 11

    The Immeasurable Podcast highlights a fifteen-part series from Ojai recorded in 1980 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with David Bohm about the ending of time. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Visit kfa.org for details.J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm - Brockwood Park 1980 - Dialogue 11: An Order Beyond All Human Order and DisorderSeries: The Ending of TimeCan insight wipe away, banish, or dissolve the whole movement of being tied, attached, dependent, and lonely?Is there an order which is not man-made?Measurement can exist only where there is disorder.We live in a man-made world, we are the result of man-made minds. Can the mind uncondition itself so completely that it’s no longer man-made?What is the relationship between love and hatred?For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:International Site - http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/jk.krishnamurtiInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/krishnamurtifoundationamericaKrishnamurti Foundation Trust, UK - http://www.kfoundation.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of America - http://www.kfa.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of India - http://www.kfionline.org/Fundación Krishnamurti Latinoamericana - http://www.fkla.org/© 1980 Krishnamurti Foundation of TrustFollow The Immeasurable on Instagram (@krishnamurtifoundationamerica) Support the show

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    TEACHINGS: Cosmic Order | J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm | Part 10

    The Immeasurable Podcast highlights a fifteen-part series from Ojai recorded in 1980 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with David Bohm about the ending of time. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Visit kfa.org for details.J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm - Brockwood Park 1980 - Dialogue 10: Cosmic OrderSeries: The Ending of TimeIs there an order which is not made by humans? Can the brain ever be free from the impositions, pressures, wounds, bruises, and all the trivialities of existence? Time is my whole existence. I take refuge in the past, which cannot be changed. Why does the brain accept this way of living, and why doesn’t it break it down?As long as I have my roots in the past there cannot be order.If the universe is not of time, can the mind which has been entangled in time unravel itself and so be the universe?For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:International Site - http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/jk.krishnamurtiKrishnamurti Foundation Trust, UK - http://www.kfoundation.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of America - http://www.kfa.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of India - http://www.kfionline.org/Fundación Krishnamurti Latinoamericana - http://www.fkla.org/© 1980 Krishnamurti Foundation TrustFollow The Immeasurable on Instagram (@krishnamurtifoundationamerica) Support the show

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    TEACHINGS: Senility and the Brain Cells | J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm | Part 9

    The Immeasurable Podcast highlights a fifteen-part series from Ojai recorded in 1980 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with David Bohm about the ending of time. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Visit kfa.org for details.J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm - Brockwood Park 1980 - Dialogue 9: Senility and the Brain CellsSeries: The Ending of TimeIs the human brain deteriorating?The human brain is not a particular brain, it doesn't belong to me or to anyone else, it is the human brain which has evolved for millions of years. Can the brain not only be aware of its own movement but can the brain itself have enough energy to break all patterns and move out of it?Is psychological knowledge not in itself a factor of the shrinking of the brain?The ending of suffering comes about when the self, which is built up through time, is no longer there.If there is an insight into the nature of time the very brain cells which are part of time break down. The brain cells mutate, bring about a change in themselves.Meditation is insight.For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:International Site - http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/jk.krishnamurtiInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/krishnamurtifoundationamericaKrishnamurti Foundation Trust, UK - http://www.kfoundation.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of America - http://www.kfa.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of India - http://www.kfionline.org/Fundación Krishnamurti Latinoamericana - Support the show

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    TEACHINGS: Can Insight be Awakened in Another? | J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm | Part 8

    The Immeasurable Podcast highlights a fifteen-part series from Ojai recorded in 1980 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with David Bohm about the ending of time. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Visit kfa.org for details.J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm - Brockwood Park 1980 - Dialogue 8: Can Insight be Awakened in Another?Series: The Ending of TimeWhat is the relationship to society of an individual who has insight? What is their action with regard to war and the whole world?To divert the course of humanity’s destruction, somebody must listen.For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:International Site - http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/krishnamurtifoundationamericaFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/jk.krishnamurtiKrishnamurti Foundation Trust, UK - http://www.kfoundation.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of America - http://www.kfa.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of India - http://www.kfionline.org/Fundación Krishnamurti Latinoamericana - http://www.fkla.org/© 1980 Krishnamurti Foundation Trust Support the show

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    TEACHINGS: Death Has Very Little Meaning | J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm | Part 7

    The Immeasurable Podcast highlights a fifteen-part series from Ojai recorded in 1980 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with David Bohm about the ending of time. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Visit kfa.org for details.J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm - Brockwood Park 1980 - Dialogue 7: Death Has Very Little MeaningSeries: The Ending of TimeIs there a totally different way of approaching the whole turmoil of life?As long as the center is creating darkness, and thought is operating in that darkness, there must be disorder, there must be everything as society now is. To move away from that you must have insight.Insight can only come about when there is a flash which abolishes not only the darkness but the creator of darkness.Human beings have been acting according to one pattern, responding to hatred by hatred and so on. There are those few, perhaps many, who did not. Why has this division taken place?The man who is living in darkness can move away at any time to the other. That is the point: at any time.What happens to a mind that has no conflict?For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:International Site - http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/jk.krishnamurtiInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/krishnamurtifoundationamericaKrishnamurti Foundation Trust, UK - http://www.kfoundation.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of America - http://www.kfa.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of India - http://www.kfionline.org/Fundación Krishnamurti Latinoamericana - Support the show

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    TEACHINGS: Can Insight Bring About a Mutation of the Brain Cells? | J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm | Part 6

    The Immeasurable Podcast highlights a fifteen-part series from Ojai recorded in 1980 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with David Bohm about the ending of time. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Visit kfa.org for details.J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm - Brockwood Park 1980 - Dialogue 6: Can Insight Bring About a Mutation of the Brain Cells?Series: The Ending of TimeCan insight change the brain cells?In the brain is there an activity that is not touched by consciousness?Insight is not dependent on the material process, which is thought. Where there is violence, peace cannot exist. Where there is peace, is there violence?As insight is causeless, is not born out of cause, that insight has a definite effect on that which has cause.The material process acts in ignorance, in darkness. This flash of insight enlightens the whole field, which means ignorance, darkness has been dispelled.For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:International Site - http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/jk.krishnamurtiInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/krishnamurtifoundationamericaKrishnamurti Foundation Trust, UK - https://www.kfoundation.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of America - https://www.kfa.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of India - https://www.kfionline.org/Fundación Krishnamurti Latinoamericana - https://www.fkla.org/© 1980 Krishnamurti Foundation Trust Support the show

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    EXPLORATION: Facing a World in Crisis | David Skitt

    Welcome back to The Immeasurable Podcast. This episode is a talk titled “Facing a World in Crisis,” given by David Skitt at the Annual May Gathering in 2008. In his talk, David reflects on Krishnamurti’s statement “You are the world” as he discusses themes such as conflict, personal responsibility, and interconnectedness. The second part of the episode is a question and answer session with the audience.David is a former trustee of the Krishnamurti Foundation Trust at Brockwood Park. He is the editor of a number of books of Krishnamurti’s talks and dialogues, one of which is titled Facing a World in Crisis after which this talk was named. You can find the book at our online bookstore store.kfa.org. I hope you enjoy the episode. Follow The Immeasurable on Instagram (@krishnamurtifoundationamerica)Follow The Immeasurable on Tiktok (@j.krishnamurti)Subscribe to The Immeasurable on YouTube (@theimmeasurable)Like The Immeasurable on Facebook (facebook.com/theimmeasurable.org)  Support the show

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    TEACHINGS: A Flame of Learning | J. Krishnamurti with Teachers

    Welcome back to The Immeasurable Podcast. This episode comes from discussions Krishnamurti had with teachers at Brockwood Park School, which he founded in England in 1969. These dialogues were turned into a book called A Flame of Learning and are also referenced by Jaap and Shailesh in the previous episode,  Exploring Education. Krishnamurti explores a teacher’s relationship with both the school and with their colleagues and students. In this episode, Krishnamurti questions the nature of freedom and authority, the root of fear and violence, and the possibility of awakening intelligence and sensitivity to order. The teachers and Krishnamurti also go into the nature of inquiry itself and the necessity for clarity, observation, and communication. He challenges educators to look at the need for radical psychological change and to consider the possibility of such changes in all human beings. Krishnamurti said, "Seeing something very clearly and acting instantly is intelligence. Can we have that intelligence among ourselves first, and then convey it to the student?" You can find this quote in the book A Flame of Learning, where you can read these dialogues in print. Visit store.kfa.org to order it now. I hope you enjoy the episode. For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:International Site - http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/jk.krishnamurtiInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/krishnamurtifoundationamericaKrishnamurti Foundation Trust, UK - http://www.kfoundation.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of America - http://www.kfa.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of India - http://www.kfionline.org/ Support the show

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    EXPLORATION: Exploring Education | Shailesh Shirali and Jaap Sluijter

    Welcome back to The Immeasurable Podcast. This episode is an exploration on education between Shailesh Shirali and Jaap Sluijter. Dr. Shailesh Shirali has been with the Krishnamurti schools in India since the early 1980s. He is a trustee of the Krishnamurti Foundation of India (KFI) and has served as Principal of Rishi Valley School; he is currently the Director of Sahyadri School. He has also been in the field of mathematics education for many decades and is the author of several books for students and teachers. He has a particular interest in ancient Indian mathematics, and in facilitating inquiry into fundamental issues among teachers and students at the school level. Jaap Sluijter has a long-standing interest in the questions raised by Krishnamurti. Currently, Jaap is the Executive Director of the Krishnamurti Foundation of America. Previously, he lived and taught at Brockwood Park School in England. He has an MA in Mechanical Engineering and worked as a design engineer in the field of camera systems and musical instruments. Together, they attempt to look at education through a wider angle: developing one’s full potential in and out of the classroom, as well as the challenges they face in education. You can also view this episode on YouTube.Follow The Immeasurable on Instagram (@krishnamurtifoundationamerica)Follow The Immeasurable on Tiktok (@j.krishnamurti)Subscribe to The Immeasurable on YouTube (@theimmeasurable)Like The Immeasurable on Facebook (facebook.com/theimmeasurable.org) Support the show

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    TEACHINGS: The Ground of Being and the Mind of Humanity | J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm | Part 5

    The Immeasurable Podcast is highlighting a fifteen-part series from Ojai recorded in 1980 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with David Bohm about the ending of time. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Visit kfa.org for details.J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm - Brockwood Park 1980 - Dialogue 5: The Ground of Being and the Mind of HumanitySeries: The Ending of TimeWhy is having ideas become so important?What is the difference between a religious mind and a philosophic mind?What is the human mind’s relationship to the ground?Why has man accumulated knowledge?When you love somebody there is no ‘me’, it is love. In the same way, when I say I am humanity, it is so. It is not an idea, it is not a conclusion, it is part of me.For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:International Site - http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/jk.krishnamurtiInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/krishnamurtifoundationamericaKrishnamurti Foundation Trust, UK - http://www.kfoundation.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of America - http://www.kfa.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of India - http://www.kfionline.org/Fundación Krishnamurti Latinoamericana - http://www.fkla.org/© 1980 Krishnamurti Foundation Trust Support the show

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    TEACHINGS: Breaking the Pattern of Ego-centred Activity | J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm | Part 4

    The Immeasurable Podcast is highlighting a fifteen-part series from Ojai recorded in 1980 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with David Bohm about the ending of time. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Visit kfa.org for details.J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm - Brockwood Park 1980 - Dialogue 4: Breaking the Pattern of Ego-centred ActivitySeries: The Ending of TimeWhat will make a human being change, deeply, fundamentally, radically?Will I, as a human being, give up my egocentric activity completely?The more knowledge I have acquired, as I have evolved, as I have grown, as I have experienced, it has strengthened me, and I have been walking on that path for millennia. Perhaps I may have to look at this problem totally differently - which is not to walk on that path at all; discard all knowledge I have acquired.Explanations have been the boat on which to cross to the other shore. The man on the other shore says there is no boat. Cross! What happens to me when I meet something that is completely solid, immovable, absolutely true?Psychological knowledge has made us dull.For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:International Site - http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/krishnamurtifoundationamericaFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/jk.krishnamurtiKrishnamurti Foundation Trust, UK - http://www.kfoundation.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of America - http://www.kfa.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of India - http://www.kfionline.org/Fundación Krishnamurti Latinoamericana - Support the show

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    EXPLORATION: Beyond Violence | Leah Luong & Jackie McInley

    Welcome to The Immeasurable Podcast. The following episode is an exploration with Leah Luong and Jackie McInley and was recorded in Ojai at Pine Cottage, Krishnamurti’s former residence. The episode is titled after the book Beyond Violence. Krishnamurti said, “We have built a society which is violent and we as human beings are violent; the environment, the culture we live in, is the product of our endeavor, of our struggle, of our pain, of our appalling brutalities. So the most important question is: is it possible to end this tremendous violence within oneself?” While Jackie and Leah discuss this possibility together, they are by no means experts and this dialogue is an attempt to discover it as if for the first time. You can also view this episode on YouTube.Follow The Immeasurable on Instagram (@krishnamurtifoundationamerica)Follow The Immeasurable on Tiktok (@j.krishnamurti)Subscribe to The Immeasurable on YouTube (@theimmeasurable)Like The Immeasurable on Facebook (facebook.com/theimmeasurable.org) Support the show

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    TEACHINGS: Why Has Man Given Supreme Importance to Thought? | J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm | Part 3

    The Immeasurable Podcast is highlighting a fifteen-part series from Ojai recorded in 1980 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with David Bohm about the ending of time. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Please go to kfa.org for details.J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm - Brockwood Park 1980 - Dialogue 3: Why Has Man Given Supreme Importance to Thought?Series: The Ending of TimeQ: Is the 'ground' indifferent to mankind, as the physical universe appears to be? How does one find out if there is something more than merely the physical?Q: Why is it that theories are necessary and useful in organizing facts about matter outwardly, and yet inwardly, psychologically they are in the way, of no use at all?Seeking security for myself, for my family, for my group, and for my tribe, has brought about division.Why has man given importance to thought as the supreme thing?If I accept I am irrational completely, I am rational.For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:International Site - http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/krishnamurtifoundationamericaFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/jk.krishnamurtiKrishnamurti Foundation Trust, UK - http://www.kfoundation.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of America - http://www.kfa.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of India - http://www.kfionline.org/Fundación Krishnamurti Latinoamericana - http://www.fkla.org/© 1980 Krishnamurti Foundation TrustFollow The Immeasurab Support the show

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    EXPLORATION: Conflict in Relationship: Krishnamurti's View | David Moody

    Welcome back to The Immeasurable Podcast. I’m Leah Luong and this episode is a talk given by David Edmund Moody during the 2018 Annual May Gathering. David was the first teacher hired when Krishnamurti founded the Oak Grove School in Ojai, California, in 1975. He subsequently served as educational director of the school, which was the position he held at the time of Krishnamurti’s death in 1986. He is the author of three books about Krishnamurti. His most recent book is titled Krishnamurti in America: New Perspectives on the Man and his Message (Alpha Centauri Press, 2020). David’s talk is called Conflict in Relationship: Krishnamurti's View. He raises questions such as, “Can thought be aware of its own limitations?” and “If you have no relationship with nature, how can you have relationship with human beings?” His talk centers around understanding the sources of conflict in human relationship, what it means to be related, and exploring the nature and meaning of thought.I hope you enjoy it.Follow The Immeasurable on Instagram (@krishnamurtifoundationamerica) Follow The Immeasurable on Tiktok (@j.krishnamurti)Subscribe to The Immeasurable on YouTube (@theimmeasurable)Like The Immeasurable on Facebook (facebook.com/theimmeasurable.org) Support the show

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    TEACHINGS: Cleansing the Mind of the Accumulation of Time | J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm | Part 2

    The Immeasurable Podcast is highlighting a fifteen-part series from Ojai recorded in 1980 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with David Bohm about the ending of time. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Please go to kfa.org for details.J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm - Brockwood Park 1980 - 2: Cleansing the Mind of the Accumulation of TimeSeries: The Ending of TimeTime is the enemy of man.Is there a beginning which is not enmeshed in time?We said nothingness is everything and so it is total energy. It is undiluted pure, uncorrupted energy. Is there something beyond that?Has man ever been free from the ‘I’?That emptiness can only exist when there is death of the particular.For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:International Site - http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/krishnamurtifoundationamericaFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/jk.krishnamurtiKrishnamurti Foundation Trust, UK - http://www.kfoundation.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of America - http://www.kfa.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of India - http://www.kfionline.org/Fundación Krishnamurti Latinoamericana - http://www.fkla.org/© 1980 Krishnamurti Foundation TrustFollow The Immeasurable on Instagram (@krishnamurti_theimmeasurable)Like The Immeasurable on Facebook (facebook.com/theimmeasurable.org) Support the show

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    EXPLORATION: Freedom From the Known: The Krishnamurti Perspective | Cory Fisher

    Welcome to The Immeasurable  Podcast, this episode is a talk by Cory Fisher given during the annual May Gathering in 2019. Cory Fisher has been involved with the Krishnamurti Foundation of America since 2013, when he was among the first generations of Residential Students/Scholars at the Krishnamurti Center in Ojai, California. He now serves as the Director of Publications and Archives at the Krishnamurti Foundation of America. His talk Freedom from the Known: the Krishnamurti Perspective features a conversation between Krishnamurti and theoretical physicist David Bohm as well as a dialogue between Krishnamurti and Alaine Naudé. In this talk, Cory delves into what Krishnamurti means by “freedom from the known”,  exploring Krishnamurti’s themes around consciousness, time, freedom, and knowledge. I hope you enjoy it.Follow The Immeasurable on Instagram (@krishnamurtifoundationamerica) Support the show

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    TEACHINGS: The Roots of Psychological Conflict | J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm | Part 1

    The Immeasurable Podcast is highlighting a fifteen-part series from Ojai recorded in 1980 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with David Bohm about the ending of time. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Please go to kfa.org for details.J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm - Brockwood Park 1980 - 1: The Roots of Psychological ConflictSeries: The Ending of TimeHas humanity taken a wrong turn?What is the root of this tremendous inward conflict of humanity?When I am trying to become something it is a constant battle.Can the brain itself see that it is caught in time and as long as it is moving in that direction conflict is eternal, endless?Can the mind realize, resolve a psychological problem immediately?Has mankind journeyed through millennia to come to this: that I am nothing and therefore I am everything and all energy?For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:International Site - http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/jk.krishnamurtiKrishnamurti Foundation Trust, UK - http://www.kfoundation.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of America - http://www.kfa.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of India - http://www.kfionline.org/Fundación Krishnamurti Latinoamericana - http://www.fkla.org/© 1980 Krishnamurti Foundation TrustFollow The Immeasurable on Instagram (@krishnamurtifoundationamerica)Like The Immeasurable on Facebook (facebook.com/theimmeasurable.org) Support the show

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    INTERVIEW: Being with Krishnamurti | Samdhong Rinpoche

    Welcome back to another season of the Immeasurable Podcast. You’re listening to an interview with Lobsang Tenzin, also known as the fifth Samdhong Rinpoche. He is a Tibetan Buddhist teacher and philosopher who has lived in Dharamsala, India since 1959 when he fled Tibet. He is the spiritual advisor to the Dalai Lama. In addition, he served as the Prime Minister of the cabinet of the Central Tibetan Administration and was the director of the Central Institute of Higher Tibetan Studies in Varanasi, India. He also served as a trustee of the Krishnamurti Foundation in India for several decades. In this interview, Rinpoche discusses his understanding of Krishnamurti's teachings and Buddhist teachings, as well as Krishnamurti's role as a “teacher.” Follow The Immeasurable on Instagram (@krishnamurtifoundationamerica) Support the show

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    INTERVIEW: Being With Krishnamurti | Laura Huxley

    Welcome back to The Immeasurable Podcast. This episode is a 1980’s interview with Laura Huxley. Laura was a musician, author, psychotherapist, and lecturer who met Krishnamurti at the home of yoga instructor, Vanda Scaravelli. She was married to author and philosopher Aldous Huxley, who was a close friend of Krishnamurti. Laura Huxley is known for a discussion she had with Krishnamurti in which he said that “people who try to help others are a curse.” She talks about that exchange in this interview, and you may find what Krishnamurti has to say about it to be both surprising and interesting. Huxley is interviewed by Michael Mendizza and Leah has re-narrated his questions for better audio quality. We hope you enjoy it. Follow The Immeasurable on Instagram (@krishnamurtifoundationamerica) Support the show

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    TEACHINGS: What Does It Mean To Be Totally Aware?

    J. Krishnamurti  — Saanen 1977 - Extract from Public Discussion 2 Follow The Immeasurable on Instagram (@krishnamurtifoundationamerica) Support the show

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    EXPLORATION: Freedom From Conditioning | Professor Krishna

    Welcome back to The Immeasurable Podcast. This episode is a talk from a previous Annual May Gathering. It's called “Freedom From Conditioning" by Professor Krishna.Professor Krishna was born in Chennai (south India) but grew up in Indore (central India) where his parents were educationists. He first met and heard Krishnamurti in 1957-58 and continued to listen to Krishnamurti during his visits to the education center in Rajghat, Varanasi. He was a Professor of Physics at the Banaras Hindu University when in 1985 Krishnamurti asked him to take charge of the Rajghat Education Centre as its Rector and Principal of the Rajghat Besant School. He worked in this capacity until 2003 and has since been in charge of the Krishnamurti Study Centre at Rajghat. He has lectured all over the world on Krishnamurti’s teachings, science, society, and education. In 2015 he wrote a memoir entitled, A Jewel on a Silver Platter: Remembering J.KrishnamurtiThe first requirement to learning, according to Krishnamurti (00:53) What is conditioning? What do we mean by freedom from conditioning? (2:55)Is all conditioning a problem? (6:30)What do negative emotions mean?  (9:32)Why do we believe in illusions? (10:04)When the false ends (11:50)What would it mean to examine oneself? (12:25)Why is it important to examine the self? (13:40)Can thought perceive what is true? (17:12)Professor Krishna on belief, truth, and illusion (23:34)The root problem of division among human beings (25:32)The ego (28:00)Watching consciousness in the mirror of relationship (29:30)The role thought plays in the quest for truth (30:10)Does one eliminate conditioning? (34:45)What is one seeking? (39:10)Why the management of ego doesn't solve any problem (42:43)Perception is real action (45:20)Follow The Immeasurable on Instagram (@krishnamurti_theimmeasurable)  Support the show

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    TEACHINGS: Death—What Happens If I Don't End All The Content Of My Consciousness?

    J. Krishnamurti  — Brockwood Park 1981 – Public Talk 3 – What Happens if I Don't End all the Content of my Consciousness? Support the show

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    INTERVIEW: Being With Krishnamurti | Alan Hooker interviewed by Evelyne Blau

    Welcome back to The Immeasurable Podcast. Evelyne Blau (narrated by Leah Luong) interviews Alan Hooker, a former cook for Krishnamurti. The late restauranteur moved to Ojai in 1949 because of his interest in the teachings, and to help prepare food for the Ojai campus. He was also a former trustee of the Krishnamurti Foundation of America. He is asked a series of questions about his experience with Krishnamurti in this 1987 interview. Leah has re-narrated Evelyne’s questions for better audio clarity. We hope you enjoy it. Support the show

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    TEACHINGS: What Prevents Change? | J. Krishnamurti in Small Group Discussions

    Welcome back to The Immeasurable Podcast. This episode centers around the topic, What Prevents Change?J. Krishnamurti with David Bohm, Asit Chandmal, and P. Krishna. - Brockwood Park 1977For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:International Site - http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/jk.krishnamurtiTwitter - https://twitter.com/orgKrishnamurtiKrishnamurti Foundation Trust, UK - http://www.kfoundation.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of America - http://www.kfa.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of India - http://www.kfionline.org/Fundación Krishnamurti Latinoamericana - http://www.fkla.org/This organization is a registered charity. Registered charity number: 312865© 1982 Krishnamurti Foundation of AmericaSupport the show (https://theimmeasurable.org/donate) Support the show

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    EXPLORATION: The Paradox of Change | David Moody

    Welcome back to The Immeasurable Podcast. This episode is a recording from this year’s Online May Gathering, a talk given by David Moody called “The Paradox of Change," followed by a Q&A with Karen Hesli, Nandini Patnaik, and David Moody.  David Edmund Moody, Ph.D., is the author of three books about Krishnamurti. His most recent book is Krishnamurti in America: New Perspectives on the Man and his Message. This book represents a full-scale biography of Krishnamurti’s life, with special attention to the events in America that have not been covered well in previous biographies.Moody was the first teacher hired when Krishnamurti founded the Oak Grove School in Ojai, California, in 1975.  He subsequently served as educational director of the school, and as director, the position he held at the time of Krishnamurti’s death in 1986.  He later took his Ph.D. in science education (UCLA, 1991) with a focus on student misconceptions in the study of biological evolution.Krishnamurti's view on how we deal with problems (3:38)Seeing the danger of thought (4:06)What did Krishnamurti have to say about time? (5:23) Did humanity take a wrong turn? (6:28)What is the "ending of time?" (8:00)Why the paradox of change goes right into the heart of Krishnamurti's philosophy (11:20)Three reasons why the process of becoming is problematic (12:108)The difference between chronological time and psychological time (12:35) David describes the psychological self (17:55)Image-making: how it relates to the process of becoming and generating inner conflict (22:37) Genuine, authentic change that is free of time and image (25:46)What is the nature and meaning of transformation? (26:32)The negative approach (28:56)Transformation isn't something that you do, it's something you see  (30:47)Illusion and insight (31:49)What does psychological revolution entail? (39:00)David reads an excerpt from “The Urgency of Change” book (43:21)Karen introduces  Q&A panel (47:00) Support the show

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    TEACHINGS: What Is A Healthy Mind? | J. Krishnamurti and Scientists | Part 4

    The Immeasurable Podcast is highlighting the four part series from Ojai in 1982 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with Rupert Sheldrake, David Bohm and John Hidley about the nature of the mind. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Please go to kfa.org for details.J. Krishnamurti - Ojai 1982 - Discussion with Scientists 4 - What is a healthy mind?For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:International Site - http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/jk.krishnamurtiTwitter - https://twitter.com/orgKrishnamurtiKrishnamurti Foundation Trust, UK - http://www.kfoundation.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of America - http://www.kfa.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of India - http://www.kfionline.org/Fundación Krishnamurti Latinoamericana - http://www.fkla.org/This organization is a registered charity. Registered charity number: 312865© 1982 Krishnamurti Foundation of America Support the show

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    INTERVIEW: Being With Krishnamurti | James Lee Dixon interviewed by Jaap Sluijter

    Jaap Sluijter interviews James "Jim" Lee Dixon about the time he spent with J. Krishnamurti. Jim Dixon was a renowned carpet and art collector, master gardener, friend of the Foundation and prior owner/donor of the Occidental, California property which will now become a Krishnamurti Center. Jim attended many of Krishnamurti's talks and found the work of K  to be the most important project to support with his estate. Jim will be missed dearly, but his passion for the teachings, and the perfume of love he left behind, will remain alive and well in Occidental, California and beyond.In remembrance of James Lee Dixon, August 26th 1943-March 23rd 2020Link to obituary Support the show

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    TEACHINGS: The Need For Security | J. Krishnamurti & Scientists | Part 3

    The Immeasurable Podcast is highlighting the four part series from Ojai in 1982 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with Rupert Sheldrake, David Bohm and John Hidley about the nature of the mind. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Please go to kfa.org for details.J. Krishnamurti - Ojai 1982 - Discussion with Scientists 3 - The need for securitySummary:Why do we want security?Am I separate from the agony I go through?---For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:International Site - http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/jk.krishnamurtiTwitter - https://twitter.com/orgKrishnamurtiKrishnamurti Foundation Trust, UK - http://www.kfoundation.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of America - http://www.kfa.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of India - http://www.kfionline.org/Fundación Krishnamurti Latinoamericana - http://www.fkla.org/This organization is a registered charity. Registered charity number: 312865© 1982 Krishnamurti Foundation of America Support the show

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The Immeasurable is dedicated to exploring the essential questions of our existence; who we are and where we are going. The intent is to inspire listeners to question assumptions of the mind, offering opportunities to ask deep questions into common life themes that are superficially accepted. We take no ideological positions except to encourage the spirit of inquiry. We aim to provide an in-depth look at dialogue and exploration around Krishnamurti’s teachings. There will be interviews of people who have spent time with Krishnamurti, as well as explorations around the content of his teachings, our programs, and our annual conference. The Immeasurable is a project of the Krishnamurti Center in Ojai, CA. The KFA is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization.

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