The Innerverse of Business & Life

Is the story you have in your mind influencing your relationships with your partner, colleague, or family member? We all know what it’s like to get caught in our thoughts, replaying something that was said and building a story about what it means. In this episode, Barb is joined by Angus Ross, a transformational coach and co-host of the Awaken to Love podcast. They explore why we get gripped by story and what changes when we begin to see it with more clarity.Angus and his wife Rohini work primarily with couples, helping them move through conflict, disconnection, and long-standing patterns. At the heart of that work is a simple but powerful shift from being lost in thought to becoming present to what is actually happening.In our conversation, we explore how thinking shapes our emotional experience, why we get pulled into stories in relationships, and what becomes possible when we come back to what we are actually feeling.Thank you for listening and for being part of this journey.SHOW NOTES:[00:00] - Introduction and Connection[03:40] - Insights from the Journey of a Transformational Coach[12:46] - The Role of Authenticity in Coaching[15:49] - The Impact of the Three Principles[18:55] - Exploring Plant Medicine and Self-Discovery[28:15] - Understanding Thought and Its Impact on Experience[31:07] - Understanding the Power of Story in Relationships[33:53] - The Role of Presence and Authenticity[37:26] - Navigating Emotions Beyond the Story[42:03] - The Healing Power of Vulnerability[45:25] - Embracing the Human Experience[49:19] - Courage to Confront Our Inner TruthsSHOW LINKS:Visit Angus' websiteListen to the Awaken to Love Podcast on Apple and Spotify

What if the real question isn’t whether it will work out, but whether you can trust yourself inside the yes?In this solo episode, Barb explores what happens after we feel the aliveness, the curiosity, the expansion of a yes, and how quickly the mind and nervous system move in to manage, predict, and protect.Through reflections from her own life and leadership, Barb unpacks what she calls the “fragility trap”. The subtle way we treat ourselves as if we can’t handle growth, uncertainty, or expansion.This conversation isn’t about forcing or pushing harder. It’s about trusting your capacity to meet the journey, the contraction and the expansion, and staying present inside your commitment.If you’ve been hovering at the edge of something meaningful, this episode is an invitation to back yourself and discover you are far less fragile than you think.Thank you for listening and for being part of this journey.SHOW NOTES:[00:00] - Welcome to the Innerverse of Business and Life Podcast![00:56] - Exploring Trust and Commitment[09:32] - The Power of Saying Yes[16:25] - Navigating Doubts and Comparisons[21:39] - Embracing Growth and Aliveness[26:30] - Thank you for listening to the Innerverse of Business and Life Podcast!SHOW LINKS:Subscribe to the podcast on YouTube Follow Barb on LinkedInFollow Barb on Instagram

What if the constant drive to optimize, organize, and “get it right” is actually keeping us at a distance from life?In this solo episode, Barb explores the subtle illusion behind getting our act together and how perfectionism and control can quietly delay action, presence, and aliveness.Using everyday examples and the metaphor of the kayak versus the yacht, she invites us to loosen our grip on certainty, trust our capacity to learn, and step more fully into the imperfect, unfolding reality of our lives.Thank you for listening and for being part of this journey.SHOW NOTES:[00:00] - Welcome to The Innerverse of Business and Life Podcast[00:54] - Letting Go of Perfectionism[05:58] - The Illusion of Control[12:52] - Embracing Imperfection and UncertaintySHOW LINKS:Subscribe to the podcast on YouTube Follow Barb on LinkedInFollow Barb on Instagram

As the year comes to a close, I've found myself reflecting on the conversations I’ve had on the podcast and what has become clear as I listened to each of my guests.This isn’t a recap of interviews or a list of best moments. It’s a reflection on the themes that kept showing up, regardless of background, industry, or life story.In this solo episode, I share six truths that emerged again and again through conversation, about letting go, identity, presence, readiness, trust, and the human experience itself. Not as advice, but as invitations. Things to notice. Places to soften. Questions to sit with as we move toward a new year.My hope is that something here resonates, opens, or settles, and supports you in trusting what’s already alive and unfolding in your own life.Thank you for listening and for being part of this journey.SHOW NOTES:[00:00] - Welcome to The Inerverse of Business and Life Podcast[00:56] - Reflecting on the Year and Podcast Journey[02:56] - The Power of Letting Go[05:46] - Releasing Old Identities[11:15] - The Importance of Presence[14:38] - Movement Before Readiness[18:05] - Embracing the Human Experience[21:38] - Thank you for listening!SHOW LINKS:Subscribe to the podcast on YouTube Follow Barb on LinkedinFollow Barb on Instagram

We’ve all been in that place where we’ve tried everything we know how to do, and nothing is working. The offer doesn’t land, the shift doesn’t happen, the result won’t come. Our instinct is to push harder or figure it out.But what if “nothing is working” isn’t a problem to solve, but a moment to listen?In this solo episode, Barb explores the deeper intelligence inside these breakdowns. She shares personal and client stories that reveal how often the real invitation is to return to zero, loosen our grip, and get curious about what’s actually trying to come through.When all else fails, it’s usually not about effort, strategy, or discipline. It’s about meeting what’s underneath, the truth, the clarity, the next chapter that’s already forming.If you’re in a season where things aren’t clicking, this conversation will help you see why that might be the beginning, not the end.Thank you for listening to the Innerverse of Business and Life Podcast. For more resources like this, visit Barb's website at Barbarapatterson.com.SHOW NOTES:[00:00] - Welcome to the Innerverse of Business and Life Podcast[00:56] - Navigating Moments of Failure[09:55] - The Power of Surrender and Curiosity[19:14] - Finding Freedom in Letting Go[33:52] - Thank you for listening!SHOW LINKS:Subscribe to the podcast on YouTube Follow Barb on LinkedinFollow Barb on Instagram

We’ve all had moments when a want feels clear, alive, and true, and yet, when it comes time to move toward it, something inside of us hesitates, tightens, or stalls.In today’s episode, we explore that mysterious place, the edge, where our heart’s desire meets old conditioning, protection, and the parts of us that don’t yet feel free.What if the pause, the freeze, or the resistance isn’t a sign of failure, self-sabotage, or “not wanting it enough”?What if nothing is wrong at all?Together, we look at why so many of us struggle to move toward the very things we care about, how our minds try to solve what doesn’t need fixing, and what becomes possible when we meet that edge with presence instead of pressure.Rather than forcing ourselves through fear, what's possible when we learn to stay with ourselves long enough for something new to reorganize inside?If you’re standing at the edge of a want, a longing, or a next chapter, this conversation is for you.Thank you for listening to the Innerverse of Business and Life Podcast. For more resources like this, visit Barb's website at Barbarapatterson.com.SHOW NOTES:[00:00] - Exploring the Nature of Wants[03:23] - Understanding Resistance to Our Desires[05:11] - The Complexity of Emotionally Loaded Wants[07:03] - Navigating the Edge of Desire and Protection[09:05] - The Role of Presence in Overcoming Resistance[10:32] - Transforming Wants into Action[12:37] - The Power of Direct Experience[14:44] - Embracing the Full Range of Human Experience[17:04] - The Journey of Self-Discovery and Presence[19:06] - Awakening to Our True Potential[21:37] - Inviting Transformation Through PresenceSHOW LINKS:Subscribe to the podcast on YouTube Follow Barb on LinkedinFollow Barb on Instagram

What happens when we stop trying to control our lives and begin listening to the quiet nudges within? What becomes possible when we’re willing to step into the space where the known ends and life begins?In this conversation, author and world traveler Kristy Halvorsen joins me from inside her Airstream, the home she’s lived in for the past eight years while following what she calls the “tickles of her soul.”Kristy’s book, Perfect Unfolding, chronicles not just a physical journey across North America but an inner journey of awakening, surrender, and discovering a deeper connection to life.We explore how aloneness began to fall away, what it means to trust the unknown, how to live from inner guidance rather than fear, and the quiet courage it takes to follow the path that calls to us, even when it makes no logical sense.If you’ve been feeling a tug toward something new, a shift, a desire, or a possibility you can’t quite explain, this episode is an invitation to listen more closely. To trust the nudges. To take the next step without knowing the whole map. And to discover, as Kristy has, that life often leads us somewhere far more beautiful than anything we could have planned.Here’s my conversation with Kristy Halvorsen.Thank you for listening to the Innerverse of Business and Life Podcast. For more resources like this, visit Barb's website at Barbarapatterson.com.SHOW NOTES:[00:00] - Introduction to Perfect Unfolding[05:52] - The Journey of Aloneness and Connection[08:50] - Embracing Surrender and Transformation[11:47] - The Power of Following Your Heart[14:34] - The Impact of Unexpected Connections[17:51] - Living by the Tickles of the Soul[25:46] - Embracing the Unknown[33:48] - The Power of Presence in Relationships[41:42] - Trusting the Journey of Life[50:45] - Thank you for listening to The Innerverse of Business and Life Podcast!SHOW LINKS:Visit Kristy's website.Read Kristy's book, Perfect UnfoldingFollow Kristy on Instagram

So many of us learn early in our careers to put on a kind of professionalism, a polished version of ourselves that keeps us safe, earns approval, and helps us fit into the rooms we enter. But over time, that same persona can become a quiet constraint. It creates distance. It limits our expression. And it costs us connection, with ourselves and with others.In this week’s episode, I'm joined by Ken De Loreto, Founder of Provoke Learning, long-time facilitator of leadership and learning, and co-host of the GenX at 60 podcast. Over his 38 years of working with organizations and leaders, Ken has taken a profound journey from performing and “earning the right” to reveal himself… to beginning from who he really is.Ken shares about the masks he used to rely on, the inner protector he learned to listen to, and the surprising freedom that opened up when he stopped trying to be who he thought others needed him to be. We explore the relationship between authenticity and professionalism, the longing we all have to belong, and the ways we quietly limit ourselves without even realizing it.This conversation is for anyone who has ever felt pressure to manage their image, prove their worth, or hold back the truer parts of themselves.This episode invites you to trust yourself a bit more and to let a little more of you into the room.Thank you for listening to the Innerverse of Business and Life Podcast. For more resources like this, visit Barb's website at Barbarapatterson.com.SHOW NOTES:[00:00] - The Journey of Transformation[04:44] - Unmasking Professionalism[07:51] - The Cost of the Mask[10:47] - Finding Safety in Authenticity[13:46] - The Courage to Be Real[16:32] - Shifting Perspectives on Professionalism[19:50] - The Dance of Authenticity and Professionalism[25:31] - The Balance of Professionalism and Authenticity[28:50] - Exploring Organizational Culture and Hidden Rules[31:46] - The Journey to Authentic Leadership[35:53] - Transformation Through Vulnerability[42:31] - The Power of Connection and Self-ExpressionSHOW LINKS:Provoke Learning WebsiteListen to the Gen X at 60 PodcastConnect with Ken on Linkedin

What if life’s detours and unmet expectations are part of the design?In this conversation with Jason Amoroso, Founder of Revelation Breathwork, holistic high-performance coach, and host of Living the Way of Mastery and The Sound of Healing, we explore what it really means to let go of expectations and learn to trust life.From leaving a career in professional sports to building a business rooted in spirit and service, Jason shares openly about success, surrender, and the inner journey that continues to reshape him.A conversation about the space between drive and allowing, and discovering what remains when we stop trying to make life match the picture in our minds.Thank you for listening to the Innerverse of Business and Life Podcast. For more resources like this, visit Barb's website at Barbarapatterson.com.SHOW NOTES[00:00] - Navigating Expectations and Reality[05:32] - The Hero's Journey and Personal Growth[08:36] - The Dance of Disappointment and Resilience[11:32] - Finding Purpose in the Struggle[14:25] - The Balance of Drive and Satisfaction[17:30] - Embracing Change and New Opportunities[20:35] - The Journey of Entrepreneurship and Self-Discovery[23:27] - The Role of Parenting in Business and Life[28:17] - The Balancing Act of Parenthood and Entrepreneurship[31:09] - Choosing Family Over Financial Gain[33:07] - The Importance of Mental Clarity and Awareness[35:26] - Navigating the Entrepreneurial Mindset[38:11] - The Role of Sleep in Personal Well-being[42:29] - Embracing the Journey of Self-Discovery[45:04] - Creating Meaningful Connections Through Breathwork[54:44] - Thank you for listening!SHOW LINKSLearn more about Revelation BreathworkFollow Jason on Instagram

There are times when life looks fine on the outside - work is flowing, relationships are steady - yet something inside feels muted. A quiet flatness.That subtle hum of “blah.”In this solo episode, Barb explores how that feeling can often be a sign that we’ve drifted into our minds, narrating, managing, and interpreting life instead of living it directly.Drawing on a James Joyce quote, “Mr. Duffy lived a short distance from his body,” she reflects on how our mental protectors, once useful, can begin to constrict the very aliveness we long for.Through story and reflection, Barb invites you to notice where you might be living one step removed and to rediscover what happens when you let life in, not as something to fix or improve, but as an opening to more connection, richness, and felt presence.“Maybe the question isn’t how do I live more fully, but how much life am I willing to let in - even when it stirs me?”Thank you for listening to the Innerverse of Business and Life Podcast. For more resources like this, visit Barb's website at Barbarapatterson.com.SHOW NOTES[00:00] - Letting Life In: An Introduction[01:41] - The Distance from Our Bodies[04:23] - The Protection of Observation[06:02] - The Impact of Internal Guards[09:21] - The Call to Aliveness[12:34] - Exploring Direct ExperienceSHOW LINKSSubscribe to the podcast on YouTube Follow Barb on LinkedinFollow Barb on Instagram

We all carry invisible rules, the quiet assumptions that shape how we live, work, and measure success.In this episode, Barb shares a story from a recent leadership retreat that revealed three powerful but often unseen beliefs:• that speed equals excellence,• that output equals worth, and• that what worked before should still work now.These hidden rules can fuel stress and overdrive, even when everything looks “successful” on the surface.When we start to see them clearly, something shifts.We discover that true excellence lives in clarity, not velocity - in presence, not proving. Thank you for listening to the Innerverse of Business and Life Podcast. For more resources like this, visit Barb's website at Barbarapatterson.com. SHOW NOTES:[00:00] - Unveiling Invisible Rules[05:26] - The Cost of Excellence[07:53] - Exploring Assumptions[12:03] - The Velocity Trap[14:36] - Output Equals Worth[19:59] - The Rule of InertiaSHOW LINKS:Subscribe to the podcast on YouTube Follow Barb on LinkedinFollow Barb on Instagram

What happens when you spend six days in complete darkness, no phone, no light, no distractions, and finally stop trying to hold it all together?In this profound and intimate conversation, Barb Patterson sits down with Scott Kelly, a transformative coach whose experience in a dark retreat revealed what it truly means to let go and trust life.Scott shares how exhaustion, striving, and a lifetime of “it’s all up to me” slowly gave way to deep rest, surrender, and freedom.Together, Barb and Scott explore:The power of darkness to illuminate what’s trueHow nervous system healing opens the door to deeper trustWhy letting go isn’t collapse — it’s alignment with the intelligence of lifeWhat happens when we stop living from survival and start letting life leadA conversation about surrender, aliveness, and the light that finds us when we stop searching for it.Thank you for listening to The Innerverse of Business and Life Podcast! To learn more about Barb visit her website.SHOW NOTES[00:00] - Introduction and Personal Transformations[03:51] - The Dark Retreat Experience[13:06] - Insights from the Dark[22:13] - Integration and Returning to the World[34:20] - Letting Go of Identity[42:25] - Trusting the Process of Change[50:35] - Final Thoughts and ReflectionsSHOW LINKSVisit Scott’s WebsiteConnect with Scott on LinkedinFollow Scott on Instagram

What if your okayness was never at risk, no matter the circumstances?In this episode, I’m joined by Board Certified Coach and Educator Davida Arnold for a conversation about what it means to discover that you’re okay - no matter what’s happening around you.Davida shares personal stories from parenting, teaching, and her own journey that reveal how easily we can get caught in the illusion that our happiness depends on others or our circumstances. Through the lens of the inside-out nature of life, she shows how clarity, grace, and well-being are always available within us.We explore the freedom that comes when we stop trying to control life and instead begin to trust the deeper intelligence behind it. From moments with her kids to insights in the classroom, Davida points us toward a truth that is both simple and profound: our okayness is never at risk.SHOW NOTES:[00:00] - Introduction and Background[02:22] - The Inner and Outer Worlds[04:40] - Personal Insights and Transformations[11:05] - Understanding Happiness and Relationships[12:01] - Impact on Education and Teaching[20:31] - Trusting the Process of Life[27:12] - Navigating Challenges in Education[36:48] - The Power of Perspective[38:56] - Final Thoughts and ReflectionsSHOW LINKS:Visit Davida’s WebsiteThank you for listening to this episode! If you are interested in learning more about Barb and Innerverse Academy, you can visit our website at https://barbarapatterson.com/.

We’ve all been told to chase “work-life balance.” Get the calendar right. Set better boundaries. Manage your time better. But what if balance has nothing to do with rearranging the outside?In this episode, Barb Patterson explores why the traditional idea of work-life balance keeps us on a hamster wheel, and a fresh perspective on where to find what you’re looking for. She shares the simple but profound shift that allows you to meet deadlines, demands, and relationships with more clarity, presence, and ease.You’ll hear stories, insights, and practical moves for:• Seeing how your inner climate shapes every outer experience• Letting go of the myth that circumstances dictate your state of mind• Releasing the pressure of “equal time” and instead honoring the season you’re in• Remembering that your worth has nothing to do with productivityIf you’ve ever felt behind, stretched thin, or caught between competing demands, this episode offers a fresh perspective, one that reveals balance is already available to you, right here, in any moment.SHOW NOTES[00:00] – The Myth of Work-Life Balance[05:00] – Understanding Our Inner Climate[09:59] – The Power of Internal Balance[16:20] – Challenging Common Myths[28:41] – Practical Steps to Inner BalanceSHOW LINKSSubscribe to the podcast on YouTube Follow Barb on LinkedinFollow Barb on Instagram

What happens when the very lens shaping your world is invisible to you?In this intimate conversation, coach and author Melissa Ford shares her journey of uncovering the deep, unconscious belief that “I don’t matter”, and how that hidden story colored her relationships, her work, and her sense of self.Melissa and I explore the shift from concealing who we are, managing our image, protecting ourselves, controlling how others see us, to the profound freedom that comes when we reveal what’s really true. Along the way, Melissa describes the wake-up calls, messy moments, and liberating insights that transformed her marriage, her coaching practice, and her ability to fully engage with life.If you’ve ever found yourself second-guessing, over-controlling, or living under the weight of old conditioning, this conversation is an invitation to see the invisible lens shaping your reality, and to experience the deeper love, connection, and creativity that comes when you reveal rather than conceal.Thank you for listening to The Innerverse of Business and Life Podcast! Don't forget to follow for new episodes every Thursday and visit Barb's website for more resources.SHOW NOTES:[00:00] - Transformation Through Coaching[07:58] - The Journey of Self-Discovery[17:25] - Unraveling Core Beliefs[25:10] - Shifting Perspectives in Relationships[36:48] - The Power of Revealing vs. ConcealingSHOW LINKS:Connect with Melissa on LinkedInVisit Melissa’s website

What happens when we stop resisting and start leading with “yes energy”?In this conversation, Barbara sits down with Sarah Richardson Mehler, Founder & CEO of Left Field Labs, to explore the inner shifts that have shaped her leadership and life.Sarah shares how embracing ambidexterity, blending imagination, and intuition with pragmatic execution, and empathy with strategy, opened space for her to bring her whole self to leadership. She reflects on why better together and collective intelligence is a strength in creativity and innovation, how a trip to the Amazon rainforest awakened new ways of listening and seeing, and why “thinking with the heart” is essential in both business and life.Together they explore the power of yes over resistance, the value of iteration over perfection, and the grace that emerges when we lead from curiosity, connection, and wholeness.If you’ve ever wondered what it looks like to integrate ancient wisdom with modern work, or how to expand your leadership without losing your humanity, this episode will inspire and guide you.Thank you for listening to The Innerverse of Business and Life Podcast! Don't forget to follow for new episodes every Thursday and visit Barb's website for more resources.SHOW NOTES[00:00] - Welcome to the Innerverse of Business and Life Podcast[00:56] - Meet Sarah Mehler[02:27] - The Journey Begins: From Personal to Professional[04:26] - Creating a Supportive Work Environment[07:37] - Embracing Challenges and Aha Moments[10:27] - The Power of Yes Energy[13:20] - Balancing Imagination and Pragmatic Execution[16:32] - Iterative Growth and Grace in Leadership[19:28] - Collective Wisdom: Lessons from the Amazon[22:40] - Integrating Human and Machine Intelligence[25:29] - The Collective Intelligence of Collaboration[28:34] - Empathy as a Strength in Business[31:40] - The Importance of Whole Self in Leadership[34:27] - Going to a Bigger Place TogetherSHOW LINKSConnect with Sarah on LinkedInLearn more about Left Field Labs

Have you ever felt like you’re a project in need of fixing? Like if you could just conquer that flaw, stick to that habit, or find the right formula, you’d finally arrive? For years, Barb lived inside that story, and it left her with a constant hum of dissatisfaction and self-doubt.In this solo episode, Barb shares how the self-improvement path opened incredible doors, yet also kept her locked in a cycle of striving. What began to shift everything was the realization that she was never broken to begin with, that our true starting point is whole and complete.Through personal stories and real-life examples, she explores how this fix-it mentality sneaks into business, creativity, and leadership, and what changes when we begin to relate to ourselves from wholeness instead of lack.If you’ve been caught in endless self-analysis or always trying to “get better,” this conversation is an invitation to stop repairing and start creating, to inhabit your life and business fully, quirks and all, from the wholeness that’s already within you.Thank you for listening! Visit my website to learn more about The Innerverse of Business and Life Podcast and don't forget to follow for new episodes every Thursday.SHOW NOTES[00:00] – Introduction to The Innerverse of Business and Life Podcast[00:54] – The Illusion of Self-Improvement[03:54] – Breaking Free from the Fix-It Mentality[06:22] – Discovering Wholeness Beyond Fixing[09:27] – Embracing Our Essential Nature[12:17] – The Power of the Unknown[15:11] – Shifting Perspectives on Growth[18:15] – Living from Wholeness, Not Brokenness[21:40] – Thank you for listening!SHOW LINKSExplore Barb's WebsiteSubscribe to the podcast on YouTube Follow Barb on LinkedinFollow Barb on InstagramThe Innerverse Sessions – RESERVE YOUR SPOT NOW!

What if money was never the problem, but our relationship to creativity and possibility?In this conversation, coach and author Aila Coats joins Barb to explore money, abundance, and the deeper source behind both. From her earliest entrepreneurial sparks as a child, to navigating pregnancy while reimagining her business model, Aila has continually discovered that wealth isn’t about formulas, it’s about creativity, resilience, and trust in the infinite source of life.Together they talk about:How scarcity is often just anxious thinking, not truthWhat it takes to stay open, curious, and willing when plans don’t go as expectedPractical and surprising ways to create money and resourcesThe deeper joy that comes from aligning with abundance rather than chasing formulasThis episode is an invitation to reimagine money, not as something scarce, but as energy flowing through creativity, service, and possibility.SHOW NOTES[00:00] – Introduction to Money Conversations[05:37] – Aila’s Early Entrepreneurial Spirit[08:38] – The Role of Creativity in Financial Success[11:36] – Navigating Life Changes and Business Adaptation[14:35] – Innovative Solutions During Challenges[17:45] – The Power of Mindset in Business[20:32] – Exploring Possibilities and Taking Action[23:37] – Encouraging Resilience in Entrepreneurship[26:25] – Overcoming Limiting Beliefs[29:33] – Staying Open to Opportunities[30:37] – Navigating Disappointment in Business[34:14] – The Art of Serving Through Enrollment[39:11] – Staying Open to New Possibilities[43:13] – Embracing Uncertainty and Abundance[49:02] – The Power of Gratitude in ExchangeSHOW LINKSExplore Aila’s websiteLearn more about Barbara Patterson and The Innerverse of Business and Life Podcast: https://barbarapatterson.com/money-creativity-the-infinite-source-a-conversation-with-aila-coats/

What if true leadership isn’t about pushing harder or overriding your limits, but about listening more deeply to your body and your wisdom?In this conversation, Barb sits down with Julie Chazotte, transformational coach and co-founder of Simple SHIFT, to explore what it really means to embody leadership. Julie shares her own journey from overwhelm and pressure to discovering the transformative role of the nervous system, somatic awareness, and embodied presence.Together they dive into the hidden costs of ignoring our limits, how to recognize the signals of the body, and why befriending our humanity is the key to accessing greater clarity, resilience, and creativity. Julie offers real-life examples of working with leaders navigating overwhelm, people-pleasing, and high-pressure environments, and shows how honoring our inner cues can shift everything from the quality of our decisions to the depth of our relationships.If you’ve ever felt stuck in your head, caught in self-doubt, or disconnected from your own clarity, this episode will give you a new way to see, and a new way to lead.Thank you for listening to the episode! Follow Barb for new episodes of The Innerverse of Business and Life podcast every Thursday.SHOW NOTES[00:00] - Introduction to Embodied Leadership[02:07] - Julie Chazotte's Journey and Transformation[07:17] - Understanding Limits and Overwhelm[10:25] - The Role of the Nervous System in Leadership[17:56] - Practical Applications for Leaders[20:59] - Navigating Stress and Pressure[26:46] - The Importance of Trusting Inner Wisdom[31:25] - Embracing Change and Uncertainty[37:11] - The Call to Step into Leadership[44:34] - Closing Thoughts and ReflectionsSHOW LINKSVisit Julie's website.Interested in learning more about the podcast? Visit Barb's website.

We tell ourselves we’re waiting for the right moment, more information or better conditions. But often, those delays are just fear in disguise.In this solo episode, Barb unpacks how business has a way of shining a light on the patterns that keep us holding back, second-guessing, overthinking, playing it safe. She shares a personal story of a missed opportunity, and why real growth happens when we choose to engage with life and our businesses even when it's uncomfortable.Life, business, and creativity respond to our presence, our willingness to step in, and our willingness to make the first move.Thank you for listening! To learn more about the Innerverse of Business and Life Podcast visit my website BarbaraPatterson.com.SHOW NOTES[00:00] - Introduction to The Innerverse of Business and Life Podcast[00:55] - Life is Waiting for You to Engage[05:41] - The Fear of Taking Action[10:29] - Interactive Nature of Life and Business[14:37] - Invitation to Make the First Move[15:16] - Thank you for listening!SHOW LINKSExplore the WebsiteFollow Barb on LinkedinThe Innerverse Sessions - RESERVE YOUR SPOT NOW!

What happens when the body refuses to play along with your plans—when the old drive, hustle, and push simply stop working?In this candid and inspiring conversation, BarB sits down with branding and marketing expert Lee Bjarnason to explore the unexpected “no” that changed the course of her career. Lee shares how a season of resistance and burnout revealed deeper wisdom, reignited her creativity through an unlikely side project about the Beatles, and ultimately transformed how she approaches her work and life.They talk about trusting your inner signals, reclaiming your voice after years in corporate environments, and helping brands tap into their own authentic story and soul. Whether you’re navigating a pivot, searching for renewed creativity, or trying to align your business with what feels true, this episode offers insight, encouragement, and permission to listen when your body says “no.”SHOW NOTES[00:00] - Navigating Career Fractures and Burnout[08:10] - Embracing Creativity and Finding Voice[14:34] - The Power of Authenticity in Business[21:52] - Trusting the Creative Process[27:35] - Identifying Blind Spots and Building Brands[36:19] - Exploring New Growth OpportunitiesSHOW LINKSConnect with Lee on LinkedInLearn more about The Innerverse of Being and Life Podcast: https://barbarapatterson.com/the-innerverse-of-business-and-life-podcast/

What happens when we stop trying to be who we think we should be, and start showing up as we are?In this honest and thoughtful conversation, Barb sits down with Dan Wingard, real estate leader, business coach, and musician, to explore his personal journey from performance and perfectionism to presence and authenticity.Dan shares candidly about the evolution of his leadership, his marriage of nearly 30 years, and the internal shifts that helped him let go of the pressure to prove, perform, or have it all figured out. They talk about the trap of self-improvement, the myth of “finding your purpose,” and the freedom that comes when we appreciate where we are, rather than chasing who we think we should be.This episode is a meaningful reflection on presence, honesty, and what it means to live and lead with more connection, creativity, and peace of mind.SHOW NOTES:[00:00] - Introduction and Personal Growth[04:20] - The Importance of Presence in Leadership[07:19] - Authenticity vs. Perception[10:18] - Navigating Challenges in Leadership[13:25] - Embracing Vulnerability and Realness[16:12] - Transformations in the Real Estate Business[19:06] - Exploring Emotions and Mindset[22:11] - The Role of Music and Creativity[25:11] - Finding Purpose in the Present[28:15] - Appreciating the Journey[31:16] - Conclusion and Final ThoughtsSHOW LINKS:Visit Dan's WebsiteFollow Dan on InstagramLearn more about the podcast: https://barbarapatterson.com/from-polished-to-present-dan-wingard-on-real-leadership-real-life/

What does it really mean to live an embodied life? What does it mean to have a felt, experiential knowing of who we are beyond our thinking?In this solo episode, Barb explores her personal journey of embodiment and what it means to drop below the surface, listen to the intelligence of the body, and trust its guidance even in uncertainty.From a trip to Ecuador and the loss of a loved one, she shares how reconnecting to the body opened up new dimensions of clarity, trust, and presence.This episode is an invitation to let go of control, soften into sensation, and rediscover the wisdom that lives within. To feel it all. To allow it all.If you’ve ever found yourself stuck in your head, bracing against life’s intensity, or unsure how to move forward, this one’s for you.SHOW NOTES[00:00] – Exploring Embodiment: A Journey Within[05:11] – The Power of Embodied Experiences[14:54] – Navigating Life’s Challenges with Presence[16:42] – Embracing Change and Trusting the Process[25:35] – The Wisdom of the Body: A Call to ActionSHOW LINKSExplore the WebsiteFollow Barb on LinkedinLearn more about The Innerverse of Being and Life podcast: https://barbarapatterson.com/embodied-living-trusting-your-body-feeling-your-life/

What keeps life and leadership fresh, even after decades in the game? And how do you stay curious, present, and willing to take risks when it would be easier to play it safe?In this conversation, Barb sits down with Terri Keogh, President & CEO of Castro Properties, a third-generation entrepreneur, to explore the mindset that has kept her learning, growing, and thriving in business and life.Terri shares stories from her early days making the shift from prosecutor to the real estate industry, learning to trust herself in big negotiations, and why admitting what you don’t know can be a secret weapon in business. She also talks about pressing pause, creating space for fresh thinking, and how staying engaged with life, saying yes to new experiences, even when inconvenient, has become essential to her success and happiness.This is a powerful reminder that presence, curiosity, and openness aren’t just nice ideas, they’re what keep us alive, evolving, and ready for whatever’s next.SHOW NOTES[00:00] – Generational Entrepreneurship and Its Impact[07:26] – Transitioning from Law to Business Leadership[12:53] – Overcoming Imposter Syndrome[15:52] – The Power of Curiosity and Listening[22:52] – The Importance of Presence and Pausing[29:46] – Embracing the Moment: Lessons from Life Events[32:02] – The Importance of Presence[34:35] – Navigating Life’s Challenges[38:06] – The Inner Game vs. The Outer Game[42:01] – Responding to Life’s Uncertainties[49:28] – Embracing Learning and Openness[55:35] – Introduction to Terry Keough and Her Journey[56:31] – Resilience Through Chronic Illness and Personal GrowthSHOW LINKSVisit Terri’s WebsiteLearn more about the Innerverse of Being and Life Podcast: https://barbarapatterson.com/staying-curious-present-engaged-terri-keogh-on-business-life/

What happens when you stop living in fear, release the pressure, and start trusting yourself in the middle of the chaos?In this heartfelt and inspiring conversation, Barb sits down with Jenny Gering, acclaimed costume designer behind shows like The Diplomat and films like Limitless, to explore the inner shifts that changed everything.Jenny opens up about her unconventional path into Hollywood, the burnout that nearly pulled her out of the industry, and how a deeper internal transformation helped her navigate high-pressure sets, challenging personalities, and the unpredictability of freelance life with more ease, clarity, and joy.They talk about intuition, resilience, reactivity, and learning to stop managing everyone else’s emotions just to feel safe. Jenny’s story is a beautiful reminder that our inner climate shapes everything, including the opportunities we see and the way we show up in our work.Whether you’re a creative, a leader, or someone craving more peace in the pressure, this one’s for you.SHOW NOTES[00:00] - The Journey Begins: Discovering Career Paths[15:49] - Embracing Change: Transitioning to New Opportunities[21:44] - Navigating the Fast-Paced World of Costume Design[29:48] - Learning Boundaries: Personal Growth in a Demanding Industry[30:58] - Navigating Emotional Dynamics at Work[34:09] - Embracing Resilience and Adaptability[38:49] - Transforming Reactivity into Empowerment[44:38] - Finding Common Ground in Conflict[47:45] - Nurturing Creativity and Personal Growth[51:49] - Encouragement for Young ProfessionalsSHOW LINKSFollow Jenny on InstagramLearn more about the podcast: https://barbarapatterson.com/behind-the-seams-inner-shifts-from-hollywood-costume-designer-jenny-gering/

We all start with a vision. A dream. An idea of how we’ll show up, and what it will give us in return. But what happens when reality doesn’t match that vision? When the results don’t come, the motivation fades, or the process is harder than we imagined? In this solo episode, Barb shares two personal stories, a move to Paris and the launch of a new program that didn’t unfold the way she’d imagined. Through these examples, she explores how we romanticize beginnings, how easy it is to judge ourselves too soon, and what’s actually available when we stay the course. If you’re navigating discouragement, unmet expectations, or wondering if you’re on the right track, this is your reminder: you’re not behind, and nothing’s gone wrong. Real progress isn’t always visible, it’s often the quiet act of staying true when things get real.SHOW NOTES[00:00] – The Romantic Vision of Change[05:05] – The Reality of New Beginnings[09:45] – Staying the Course Amidst Disappointment[13:30] – Embracing the Unfolding JourneySHOW LINKSExplore the WebsiteLearn about the upcoming EXPRESS TO EXPAND TrainingFollow Barb on LinkedinLearn more about the podcast: https://barbarapatterson.com/the-dream-vs-the-doing-staying-true-when-it-gets-real/

What if you didn’t need more confidence or mindset work, but a new system? What if the problem isn't you - it's your systems?In this rich and refreshing conversation, Trevor Timbeck joins Barb to explore the power of presence, the intelligence of the body, and why play might be the most practical path to building a thriving business.Trevor shares his journey from certainty to curiosity, from head-centered living to embodied knowing, and how that shift transformed his coaching practice, his life, and his approach to success. Together, they unpack the inner game of business, what it means to operate from wholeness, and why letting go might just be the most productive move of all.Topics include:• The difference between systems and psychology• What it means to "snap out of it" and return to the present• The role of nervous system awareness in creativity and clarity• Why aliveness - not hustle - is the true metric of successSHOW NOTES[00:00] - Introduction and Background[02:42] - The Connection Between Inner and Outer Experiences[05:35] - The Journey of Self-Discovery[08:19] - Transitioning from Corporate to Coaching[11:22] - The Concept of Radical Wholeness[13:39] - The Power of Systems vs. Psychology[31:51] - The Importance of Systems in Personal Growth[46:03] - The Universal System of Understanding[48:39] - Current Insights and AlivenessSHOW LINKSVisit Trevor's websiteConnect with Trevor on LinkedInCheck out Trevor's book The Power of Systems BookLearn more about the podcast: https://barbarapatterson.com/present-alive-whole-trevor-timbeck-on-business-flow-the-power-of-systems/

What if your next great idea is already there, just waiting for you to stop trying so hard?In this solo episode, I share real-time stories from my own life and work that point to a powerful truth: creativity isn’t something you chase or force, it’s something you listen to. Whether you’re navigating the unknown, in the middle of a creative project, or leading a team through challenge or change, this conversation is an invitation to loosen the grip and trust what’s already alive within you.I talk about the difference between reactivity and receptivity, how I got a 4:30AM creative nudge from my TV (yes, really), and what happened when a leadership team dropped their urgency and made space for something new to emerge.Inside this episode:Why trying harder often takes us further from insightThe role of internal spaciousness in creative breakthroughsHow everyday moments hold surprising flashes of clarityAn invitation to let go and let creative intelligence move through youThis one’s for the makers, leaders, creators, and anyone ready to follow their creative nudges and see what’s waiting just beyond the effort.SHOW NOTES[00:00] - Embracing Everyday Creativity[09:56] - Navigating Challenges with Creative Thinking[16:22] - Unlocking Innate ResourcefulnessSHOW LINKSExplore the WebsiteLearn about the EXPRESS TO EXPAND TrainingFollow Barb on LinkedinLearn more: https://barbarapatterson.com/unlocking-creative-intelligence-try-less-see-more/

What happens when someone who swears they’re “not the entrepreneurial type” takes the leap anyway? In this episode, Barbara Patterson sits down with executive coach and global consultant Juliann Wiese to unpack her surprising shift from corporate stability to thriving business owner.Juliann gets honest about what really pushed her out of her comfort zone, the mindset shifts that helped her handle rejection and uncertainty, and how embracing “the wobbles” (those messy, uncertain moments) became her superpower. Together, they swap stories about failing forward, trusting your instincts, and why most of us are more capable than we think—especially when we’re willing to try.You’ll hear lessons from the mountain biking trail, the art of depersonalizing “no,” and practical experiments to build your own resilience and courage—at work or in life.Ready to reimagine risk, break up with self-doubt, and get inspired by a real-life transformation story? Tune in and discover what’s possible on the other side of your comfort zone.SHOW NOTES[00:00] - The Bond of Shared Experiences[02:51] - The Leap into Entrepreneurship[05:21] - Navigating the Early Days of Business[08:16] - Building Resilience Through Rejection[10:43] - The Evolution of Self-Confidence[13:34] - Learning from Failures[19:44] - The Journey of Continuous Growth[25:11] - Lessons from Experience[26:36] - Navigating Conversations and Relationships[29:20] - The Importance of Authenticity[31:17] - Learning from Mountain Biking[34:46] - Embracing Uncertainty[37:43] - Wobbling Through Life[39:18] - Personal Growth and New Challenges[41:23] - Rapid Fire InsightsSHOW LINKSVisit Juliann's WebsiteConnect with Juliann on LinkedinLearn more: https://barbarapatterson.com/no-risk-no-reward-juliann-wieses-journey-from-corporate-comfort-to-entrepreneurial-adventure/

What if most of what you worry about… just doesn’t matter? In this refreshingly real conversation, Barbara sits down with Steve Chandler, legendary coach, bestselling author, and mentor, to explore the freedom that comes when we stop taking ourselves (and our problems) so seriously.Steve shares how hitting rock bottom led to a profound inner shift, and how the power of humor, humility, and letting go of old stories became the foundation for his work and life. Together, they dive into creativity, alignment, and what’s possible when we give ourselves permission to be a little less careful and a lot more human.Expect laughter, candid stories, and practical wisdom you can use right now. Whether you’re navigating business, coaching, or simply longing for more lightness and realness in your life. If you’re ready to loosen the grip of overthinking and rediscover the creative spark that comes when you let yourself off the hook, this episode offers a fresh, playful invitation: Maybe freedom is found when you realize not every thought deserves your attention, and sometimes the most honest answer really is, “it just doesn’t matter.”Show Notes[00:00] – Introduction and Early Influences[02:14] – The Awakening: Realizing Internal Influence[06:00] – Spirituality and Its Role in Recovery[09:34] – The Shift from Reaction to Creation[15:52] – Creativity as a Response to Life’s Challenges[22:13] – The Power of Humor and Vulnerability[32:47] – Alignment and Flow in Creativity[35:46] – Pivoting in Business and Life[51:46] – The Power of Love and AwarenessShow LinksVisit Steve’s WebsiteLearn more about Steve’s book The Power of SystemsLearn more about the podcast at barbarapatterson.com.

Ever feel like traction or getting started is just out of reach, no matter how hard you try? In this solo episode, Barbara Patterson gets real about the invisible forces that keep entrepreneurs, leaders, and creatives feeling stuck.Drawing from her own journey, Barb reveals the three most common (and sneaky) internal blocks that stall progress: overthinking/over-strategizing, uncertainty, and the pressure to be “professional” or “credible.” She shares candid stories, practical insights, and fresh perspectives on how to break free from these hidden habits and step into more authentic action.You’ll learn:How fast decision-making fuels momentum (and why waiting for certainty keeps you stuck)Simple ways to move past perfectionism, paralysis, and self-editingThe surprising power of showing up real, even in professional settingsIf you’re ready to stop circling the runway and start gaining real traction in your business, your creative work, or your leadership, this episode is for you. Plus, Barb shares an invitation to join her and a like-minded community for the Express to Expand 30-Day Challenge—designed to help you break old patterns and step into new possibilities.SHOW NOTES[00:00] - Invisible Forces Holding Us Back[07:26] - Overcoming Overthinking and Decision Paralysis[13:10] - Authenticity Over ProfessionalismSHOW LINKSExplore the WebsiteLearn about the upcoming EXPRESS TO EXPAND TrainingFollow Barb on Linkedin

What happens when you stop trying to follow the rules, and start sharing your voice as it really is?In this lively and inspiring conversation, I sit down with writer, ghostwriter, and community builder Jillian Richardson, whose viral “Make LinkedIn Weird” post reminded thousands that authenticity beats polish every time. We explore the beauty of getting a little weird on purpose, and how that choice can unlock creativity, clarity, and real connection in your business.Jillian opens up about:Rewriting what it means to be “professional”Finding confidence in your creative voice (even when it feels cringy)Letting go of patterns that don’t serve youUsing storytelling as a tool for visibility and self-trustTapping into your natural rhythms (and trusting the slower seasons too)If you’ve been waiting to feel ready, polished, or “clear enough” to share, this episode is your permission slip to start now, make it weird, and make it yours.SHOW NOTES[00:00] – Reconnecting and Reflecting on Past Connections[04:02] – The Birth of a Newsletter and Community Building[05:48] – Evolving Business Paths and Embracing Change[08:41] – Navigating Uncertainty in Professional Growth[11:39] – Finding Meaning in Professional Relationships[14:10] – Redefining Professionalism in a Post-COVID World[18:14] – Standing in Your Own Power and Value[21:43] – The Challenge of Pricing and Self-Worth[23:35] – Embracing Accessibility in Professional Development[26:24] – The Power of Authenticity in Content Creation[30:44] – Vulnerability as a Tool for Connection[34:24] – Navigating Financial Growth and Self-Worth[40:23] – Trusting the Cycles of Life and Work[42:07] – Introduction to Jillian Richardson and Her Journey[42:58] – Overcoming Internal Barriers to SuccessSHOW LINKSVisit Jillian’s WebsiteLearn more about Jillian’s course for LinkedInConnect with Jillian on LinkedIn 

What if the thing that’s been getting in the way is actually just a funny little part of being human… not a flaw to fix?In this episode, I’m joined by Fiona Lukeis—relationship specialist, founder of Relatable, and author of the newly released Funny Little Human. We talk about how seeing our humanness with lightness and love can shift everything—from how we relate to others, to how we move through conflict, to how we soften toward ourselves.This conversation is full of honesty, insight, and real-life examples that bring Fiona’s work to life. Whether you’re navigating a relationship, leading a team, or simply feeling the weight of trying to get it all right, this episode offers a fresh, freeing perspective.SHOW NOTES:[00:00] - Introduction to 'Funny Little Human'[04:38] - The Importance of Humor in Humanity[07:31] - Personal Journey and Self-Discovery[10:24] - The Role of Energy in Relationships[13:38] - Understanding Humaneness and Relationships[16:28] - The Three Key Relationships[19:39] - The Impact of Life's Challenges on Relationships[22:51] - Self-Inquiry and Emotional Availability[25:39] - Creating a Positive Climate in Relationships[28:35] - The Power of Lightness in Communication[31:28] - Seeing the Humor in Everyday Life[34:34] - The Essence of Love and Connection[37:36] - The Invitation to Awareness and Growth[43:16] - Introduction to Fiona Lucas and Her Work[44:13] - Exploring Compassion and Emotional FreedomSHOW LINKS:Visit Fiona's websiteListen to the Relatable PodcastFollow Fiona on InstagramLearn more about Fiona's book Funny Little Human: Transform the Way You See Yourself and the Ones You Love

What if momentum, success, and creativity weren’t something you had to force? In this solo episode, Barb shares a transformative insight that changed the way she approaches business, creativity, and life: we are not the wind—we catch it.Through personal stories, client examples, and reflections from decades of experience, she invites you to stop pushing and start listening. You’ll explore what it means to align with the natural rhythm of life, how to tell the difference between mental momentum and natural momentum, and why “not now” might be one of the most powerful directions you’ll ever receive.If you’re feeling stuck, forcing something that used to work, or unsure whether to keep pushing or pause, this episode offers a compass to realign with what’s alive, true, and meant for you.SHOW NOTES[00:00] - Catching the Wind: A New Perspective[04:08] - Listening to the Natural Momentum[11:36] - The Dance of Creativity and FlowSHOW LINKSExplore the WebsiteLearn about the upcoming IMPACT TrainingFollow Barb on LinkedIn

What if so much of what we think is “real” is actually just imagination?In this conversation, my friend and colleague Dr. Amy Johnson explores the nature of thought, the illusion of self, and the felt truth of what’s here beyond the mind.We talk about the subtle (and not-so-subtle) ways we live in imagination—how our minds narrate, label, and interpret life in ways that keep us removed from its raw, direct beauty. Amy shares how her understanding has shifted over the years, moving from helping people with habits and anxiety to now pointing more directly to truth… which, as she says, isn’t really something you can describe—but it can absolutely be felt.Together we explore what it means to follow sensation, allow what is, and surrender to the mystery that’s always here when we stop trying to manage or figure it all out.This isn’t a conversation about concepts. It’s an invitation to be in life, as life. And to rediscover what’s real—not in thought, but in presence.I’m so grateful to share this one with you.SHOW NOTES[00:00] - Introduction and Personal Connection[04:30] - The Nature of Thought and Reality[10:05] - Experiencing Life Beyond Thought[15:46] - The Role of Sensation in Understanding[22:50] - Meeting Emotions Without Resistance[27:38] - Exploring the Concept of No Self[35:01] - The Journey of Inquiry and Curiosity[40:35] - Embracing What Is and Aliveness[51:13] - Exploring the Nature of Reality[52:09] - The Illusion of the Personal SelfSHOW LINKSVisit Amy’s WebsiteFollow Amy on InstagramListen to the Changeable Podcast

In this episode of The Innerverse of Business & Life, I sit down with Lily Sais—founder of Peace From Within, former school psychologist, and TikTok creator whose videos have touched the lives of millions.Lily and I explore her deeply personal journey with anxiety, intrusive thoughts, and panic attacks—and how those experiences ultimately opened a door to her creativity, healing, and purpose. She shares how the Three Principles changed everything, how she moved from white-knuckling through life to embracing her true nature, and how her desire to serve others sparked a business and community that continues to grow.We talk about:The moment that shifted her relationship with anxietyWhat gave her the courage to start sharing publicly (even when it felt terrifying)The surprising gift of going viral—and the backlash that came with itLetting creativity lead the way (and why less effort can bring more clarity)Navigating ADHD, business pressure, and visibility with graceAnd how, at the heart of it all, fun and aliveness are still guiding her pathWhether you’re navigating anxiety, building a business, or just craving more freedom in your life—this conversation is full of insights, humanity, and hope.Lily is the real deal. I’m so grateful to share her story with you.SHOW NOTES[00:00] – Introduction to Peace From Within[04:29] – The Journey of Anxiety and Panic Attacks[08:55] – Discovering the Three Principles Understanding[12:35] – Insights on Anxiety and Mental Health[17:50] – Transitioning from School Psychology to Coaching[23:14] – Launching a Business During the Pandemic[29:31] – Embracing Creativity and Authenticity on Social Media[36:58] – The Impact of Sharing Personal Stories[41:04] – Navigating Vulnerability and Visibility[50:04] – Embracing Neurodiversity in Business[58:54] – Finding Joy and Lightness in BusinessSHOW LINKSVisit Lily’s WebsiteJoin the Peace from Within CommunityFollow Lily on InstagramFollow Lily on TikTok

Have you ever found yourself living in a smaller version of your life—not because you want to, but because of all the thoughts, rules, and self-protections you’ve piled up along the way?In this short episode, I reflect on what it means to unknowingly “hoard” thoughts and beliefs that limit us. Inspired by a client story and my own insights, I explore how we innocently make conclusions about who we are and what we’re capable of based on past experiences—and how this inner clutter shrinks our world.But here’s the good news: when we see thought for what it is, it begins to fall away. And as it does, we tap back into something deeper, more spacious, and infinitely more alive within us.This episode is an invitation to clear some mental space, trust your deeper nature, and remember: you are not fragile. You have what you need to ride the waves and expand into new possibilities.SHOW NOTES[01:23] The Impact of Overthinking on Personal Growth[03:31] Expanding Our World Beyond Limitations[10:20] Embracing Uncertainty and the Human Experience[17:09] Discovering Potential Through New ExperiencesSHOW LINKSVisit Barb's WebsiteLearn about the upcoming IMPACT TrainingFollow Barb on Linkedin

Is your mind working for you or against you? In this insightful conversation, Barb Patterson and Clare Dimond explore how our thoughts shape the way we experience business, leadership, and creativity. Clare shares how years of self-consciousness and overanalyzing kept her stuck in mental loops—until she saw the mind in an entirely new way.In this episode, we dive into:✅ The difference between real-world challenges and imagined problems✅ Why self-consciousness limits our potential—and what happens when we move beyond it✅ The role of curiosity in navigating uncertainty and decision-making✅ How identity and fear shape our actions (and how to work with them differently)✅ What a clear, engaged mind looks like in business and lifeIf you’ve ever felt weighed down by overthinking, self-doubt, or the pressure to get things right, this episode offers a fresh and freeing perspective.

In this deep and illuminating conversation, Rohini Ross shares the journey of her own evolution—from therapist to coach to transformational guide—exploring how our resistance to experience creates unnecessary struggle and how real change comes from allowing life to unfold.Together, we explore:The transition from therapy to coaching and the insights that changed everythingHow we unknowingly resist our experience and why that leads to sufferingThe role of conditioning and coping mechanisms in shaping our patternsThe power of presence, curiosity, and an open heart in unlocking healing and transformationWhy trying to fix ourselves keeps us stuck—and what to do insteadRohini beautifully articulates how we can move beyond overthinking, control, and the pressure to "get it right" and instead trust the deeper intelligence that moves through all of us. Whether you're a coach, a leader, or someone seeking more ease and flow in life, this conversation invites you to step into a new way of being—one of openness, trust, and deep inner wisdom.SHOW NOTES[00:00] The Journey of Transformation[05:43] From Therapy to Coaching: A New Perspective[08:14] Understanding Anxiety and Insecurity[10:54] The Power of Presence and Acceptance[14:07] Rewilding: Embracing Our True Nature[16:34] Patterns and Coping Mechanisms[19:28] The Role of Vulnerability in Healing[22:09] Navigating Trauma and Emotional Experience[24:38] The Impact of Relationships on Wellbeing[27:24] Trusting the Unfolding of Life[29:56] Awareness and the Present Moment[32:42] Curiosity as a Tool for Exploration[35:33] The Healing Power of an Open HeartSHOW LINKSFind Rohini at TheRewilders.org.

Have you ever found yourself stuck in decision paralysis—overanalyzing, second-guessing, and waiting for more certainty? In this solo episode, Barb Patterson dives into decision-making and why successful entrepreneurs embrace uncertainty rather than fear it. Through personal stories and insights, she explores how overthinking can slow momentum, why certainty is an illusion, and how you can trust your innate ability to adapt and navigate any outcome.If you've been hesitating on a business idea, life change, or bold move, this episode is for you. Tune in and discover:✔ Why no decision is ever completely risk-free—and why that’s okay.✔ How to shift from hesitation to decisive action.✔ The hidden reasons we delay decisions (and how to move past them).✔ What happens when you trust yourself and step into the unknown.Listen now and start making decisions with more confidence and ease. If this episode resonates, share it with someone who needs it!SHOW NOTES[00:54] The Art of Quick Decision Making[03:43] Understanding the Weight of Decisions[06:40] Navigating Hesitation and Overthinking[09:26] Embracing Uncertainty in Decision Making[11:18] Discovering Your Potential Through DecisionsSHOW LINKSExplore the WebsiteLearn about the upcoming IMPACT TrainingFollow Barb on Linkedin

What if the secret to navigating life’s major transitions was already within you?In this episode, Barb sits down with Jacquie Moses to explore the profound connection between our inner world and outer experiences. Together, they discuss how tuning into our emotions, trusting inner wisdom, and embracing our life’s sacredness can help us face change and unlock new opportunities. Change doesn’t have to be overwhelming—it can be sacred.Jacquie and Barb explore the art of navigating life’s transitions through self-discovery and inner wisdom. Jacquie shares heartfelt insights on understanding emotions, creating inner stability, and learning to trust your intuition for both personal and professional growth.Listen now to uncover how letting go of external dependencies and tuning into your inner guidance can open the door to fulfillment—and opportunities.Tune in to explore a fresh, more peaceful way to approach life’s challenges.SHOW NOTES[00:00] Exploring the Inner and Outer Worlds[00:54] The Journey of Self-Discovery[05:52] Evolving Understanding of Emotions[10:49] The Sacredness of Life Experiences[16:56] Navigating Emotions and Inner Wisdom[23:07] The Power of Trusting Intuition[28:50] Transformative Moments in Business[34:57] Embracing Change and New Beginnings[40:07] Final Thoughts and ReflectionsSHOW LINKSConnect with Jacquie on LinkedIn

When Clarity Comes in Unexpected Ways & Moves Us ForwardSometimes, clarity arrives in ways we never see coming. In this powerful and deeply moving conversation, Kirk Souder shares his journey of navigating a life-changing decision—one that required deep trust, surrender, and the willingness to let go. Faced with years of complications from a past cancer diagnosis, Kirk made a choice that redefined his path forward, not just physically but in how he relates to life itself.In this episode, Kirk and Barb explore the intelligence behind life’s unexpected moments of clarity, the role of surrender in transformation, and how aligning with our inner knowing opens new possibilities. They discuss the tension between resistance and flow, how to recognize when life is guiding us toward change, and the freedom that comes when we trust what’s unfolding.What if the clarity you’re seeking is already here, just waiting for you to see it? Tune in for a conversation that will shift the way you look at choice, surrender, and the hidden wisdom in life’s unexpected turns.SHOW NOTES[00:54] Introduction and Context of Kirk's Journey[04:29] The Decision to Amputate: A Personal Story[09:24] Identity and Letting Go: A New Perspective[15:28] Surrendering Attachments for Greater Clarity[21:00] Aligning with What Truly Matters[25:43] The Metaphor of Redwoods: Growth Through Letting Go[27:08] Letting Go of Identity and Control[29:24] Understanding Inherent Worth[31:45] Navigating Old Thinking[32:46] Embracing the Full Range of Experience[34:12] Defining True Freedom[35:42] Criteria for Decision Making[36:57] The Power of Action[40:03] Creating Possibilities Through Action[42:25] The Illusion of Certainty[45:14] Creating Our Reality[48:43] Invitation to Let GoSHOW LINKSVisit Kirk’s WebsiteConnect with Kirk on LinkedIn

What happens when life disrupts our best-laid plans? When grief, transition, or uncertainty invite us to surrender instead of push forward? In this deep and inspiring conversation, Ruthie Zerai shares her journey of moving from corporate life to self-employment, navigating profound loss, and discovering the power of trust, play, and authenticity in both business and life.We explore:The unexpected lessons of grief and how they opened new doors for Ruthie.Learning to trust life when control is an illusion.Breaking free from toxic productivity and embracing a more playful, expansive approach to work.Authenticity beyond the buzzword—what it really means to live and work in alignment.How stepping into our truth impacts not only our personal fulfillment but the way we serve and connect with others.This is a conversation about what it means to evolve, listen deeply, and allow life to guide us in unexpected and meaningful ways. If you’ve ever felt the pull to let go of outdated narratives and lean into a more easeful, aligned way of working and living, this episode is for you.Tune in to be inspired, grounded, and reminded that all is well—even when it doesn’t seem like it.Show Notes:[01:40] Reconnecting and New Beginnings[04:29] Navigating Grief and Personal Transformation[07:43] The Power of Surrender and Trust[10:45] Challenging the Doer Mentality[13:35] Exploring Playfulness in Work and Life[25:43] Embracing Playfulness in Business[32:39] The Journey to Authenticity[42:43] The Importance of Self-ExplorationShow Links:Zanta Podcast - Spotify and Apple MusicConnect with Ruthie on LinkedInFollow Ruthie on Instagram

What happens when life delivers an unthinkable loss? In this deeply personal and moving conversation, Shawn Eagan shares his journey through grief after losing his son Kevin 11 years ago. He opens up about what helped him navigate the darkest moments, how he learned to lead his family through tragedy, and the unexpected ways music and movement became his lifelines.Shawn reflects on the lessons he inherited from his father, the surprising messages that helped him stay grounded, and the raw, messy, nonlinear path of grief. He also shares what not to say to someone going through loss, the small but powerful ways to support a grieving friend, and how he found healing in playing music—eventually performing for family, friends, and special events.This conversation is real, unfiltered, and full of hard-won wisdom about resilience, presence, and what truly matters. Plus, stay until the end for a special song performance by Shawn.

"What if the key to feeling more alive and inspired isn't about doing more—but experiencing life more deeply?"In this solo episode, Barb explores how her tendency to analyze and interpret life can create an invisible barrier between her and a direct experience of life.From the cold waters of Scotland to hiking adventures—uncover how shifting from observation to direct experience can revolutionize your relationship with life. A surprising lesson from a cold-water swimming lesson reveals a profound truth: we unconsciously distance ourselves from our own experience—and in doing so, we lose access to the richness of the moment.During the episode, Barb explores the gift and value of✅ Moving beyond the overthinking and constant analysis✅ Transforming your relationship with uncertainty and discomfort✅ Accessing deeper levels of inspiration, intuition, and creativity✅ Navigating challenges with more grace and less resistance✅ Reconnecting with the natural flow of life instead of fighting against itIf you've been feeling disconnected from your work, struggling with inspiration, or sensing there's a richer, more alive way to experience life, this episode will show you how to shift from managing life to fully meeting it.Join Barb for a powerful exploration of what becomes possible when we stop controlling and allow life to carry us, just like water.

What happens when you’ve reached the summit of conventional success, but something still feels missing? In this transformative episode, CEO and change expert Jaime Taets challenges the notion that external achievements alone lead to fulfillment.For high achievers who’ve mastered the external game, Jaime reveals why the next great adventure isn’t climbing higher—it’s going deeper. Through candid conversation, discover why purpose isn’t something to find but a way to live and why readiness for change is a decision, not a feeling.Learn how to:Navigate life beyond traditional measures of successRelease outdated identities that keep you stuckTransform the trap of comfort into an invitation for growthEmbrace the aliveness that lives in the unknownMake purposeful choices when motivation alone isn’t enoughWhether you’re questioning ‘what’s next’ after achieving your goals, feeling called to redefine success, or sensing there’s something more for you, this episode offers a fresh perspective on creating a life of genuine purpose and fulfillment.Join us for an honest exploration of what becomes possible when you’re willing to turn inward and embrace the adventure of authentic living—even when (and especially when) the path isn’t clear.

What if the biggest thing holding you back isn’t your strategy but the unconscious patterns running beneath the surface? In this powerful episode, founder & CEO of The Institute of Coaching Mastery, Alyssa Nobriga, reveals how breaking free from our conditioned mind can unlock unprecedented levels of growth and success.Through vulnerable storytelling, Alyssa shares her personal journey of facing fear and internal resistance – and how this inner work directly led to quantum leaps in her business revenue. Discover why your relationship with self-worth may be the hidden key to your next breakthrough.Learn how to:Wake up from the trance of your conditioned patternsTransform your relationship with fear and failureAccess and trust your intuitive guidanceRegulate your nervous system for better decision-makingBuild success from a foundation of innate wholenessWhether you’re an entrepreneur hitting an inner ceiling, a professional navigating challenges, or someone ready to transform their relationship with success, this episode offers practical wisdom for turning internal shifts into external results.Join us for a deep exploration of what becomes possible when you’re willing to face your internal experience and let your authentic self lead the way.

In this 2.0 evolution of the podcast and the inaugural episode of The Innerverse of Business & Life, Barb sets the stage for an exciting journey of exploration and transformation. After a pause from podcasting, Barb returns with a renewed vision and intent: to dive into the rich, multidimensional inner world that profoundly shapes how we live, work, and lead.Barb shares her personal journey of change, shedding old paradigms and embracing a deeper connection to her true self. She reflects on how the most transformative shifts—whether in navigating life’s challenges, unlocking new levels of creativity, or transcending past limitations—begin within.In this episode, you’ll hear:Why Barb created The Innerverse of Business & Life and her vision for the show.How accessing our essential nature opens new possibilities, insights, and adventures.She points you toward your inner landscape and the unchartered territories within, which have the potential to lead you toward a more aligned, alive, and authentic life.Barb also introduces the themes that will shape the podcast: intimate conversations with thought leaders, change-makers, and everyday humans who share the profound inner shifts that have impacted their work and lives.

Today you get to hear a conversation with Usha Mayani, from the Beyond Limits Virtual Summit that took place last year. Usha attributes peace and love as the force behind business and shares how this force creates more authentic, deeper, connected experiences. Citing moments of joy and deep sorrow, she recounts the transformational journey of finding peace within and “coming alive” in business and life. Usha Mayani is a visionary and entrepreneur with 30+ years of business experience in Panama's burgeoning capital, Panama City, and in the Colon Free Zone (CFZ), the largest duty-free zone in the Western Hemisphere. As the 2nd female president of the Free Zone Business Association (2016-2018), Usha Mayani led the effort to protect free trade between Panama and other countries at a time when trade partners like Colombia were blocking imports despite commercial treaties. Established in 1948, the CFZ continues to be a pillar of the country’s growing economy and a living, breathing monument to the contribution of immigrant families like the Mayani’s.

Today I speak to Jules Swales about the formless potential she accredits to the form of her business. Jules explains that though she didn’t have a specific vision for her business, the business began to naturally take shape when she simply “followed the nudges”. Jules shares what she’s learned about “settling in” to herself and accessing the real source of creativity.  Jules Swales has studied Method Writing with Jack Grapes for over 16 years and in 2017 she launched the original Jack Grapes’ Method Writing live online program. Her classes are four times a year, and each class runs for eight weeks. Her main focus is to invite students to experience and write from the Creative Genius that lives inside us all. Jules is also a Creativity Coach supporting clients writing and editing their books. She ran a writing/editing class for four years and has studied with the poet David Whyte in both the British Lake District, and on Whidbey Island where she studied Conversational Leadership with him for nine months. Jules has a BA in Human Behavior (emphasis on Interpersonal Dynamics) and a MA in Spiritual Psychology.