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The Innovation Show
by Aidan McCullen
The Innovation Show is a business innovation podcast hosted by Aidan McCullen, recipient of the 2025 Thinkers50 Innovation Award and author of Undisruptable. Each week Aidan interviews the authors, researchers and practitioners reshaping how organisations think about innovation, leadership, change and reinvention.The guest list reads like a who's who of innovation. Gary Hamel joined Aidan for an 18-part series. Seth Godin was the show's first guest, and Rita McGrath, Dee Hock, Robert Burgelman, Alex Osterwalder, Joe Bower, Clark Gilbert, Scott D. Anthony, Michael Tushman, Charles O'Reilly, Sven Smit, Paul Daugherty and Paul Nunes have all followed, alongside hundreds of thinkers you may not have heard of yet and will be glad you did.With 667 episodes, the show is a library for leaders who want to see disruption coming and for managers looking for practical ways to bring better ideas to work.This is the podcast where square pegs find their place in a world of round holes.
Episodes
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EP 670 Alexander Osterwalder on the Value Stack: 6 Patterns of Value Creation
"Nintendo unlocked a completely underserved market by simplifying the game console." Alexander Osterwalder Alexander Osterwalder returns to The Innovation Show with a world first. The co-founder of Strategyzer and creator of the Business Model Canvas shares the Value Stack, a brand new tool built...
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EP 669 Alex Osterwalder: How to Use AI to Augment Value Proposition Design (Without Creating AI Slop)
"If there's something that's terrible, it's this fuzzy value proposition with AI slop." Alex Osterwalder, co-founder of Strategyzer and inventor of the Business Model Canvas, returns to The Innovation Show with a field report on AI value proposition design. A few weeks ago he argued that AI…
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How to Get Leadership to Back Your Idea Robert Burgelman on Intel
"You know how I know what the real culture of a company is? [Two] things. Who gets the money and who gets promoted." Robert Burgelman, the Edmund W. Littlefield Professor of Management at Stanford Graduate School of Business and author of Strategy is Destiny and Inside Corporate Innovation…
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EP 667: David Bland on DuPont, Qnity and the Power of Assumptions Mapping
"A good idea and a bad idea look very similar early on." David J Bland David Bland, founder of Precoil and lead author of Testing Business Ideas with Alex Osterwalder, helped DuPont and its semiconductor spin-off Qnity build an experimentation capability that surfaces risk early and speeds up...
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Ep 666: Shuo Chen — Fractional Founders, Frontier Firms and Why Enterprise Data Is AI's Gold
"They don't quit their job cold turkey. That's not what I've observed firsthand." Only twelve companies have ever been worth more than a trillion dollars. Ten of them are American. Eight of those ten were started fractionally, by people who were still in a job or still in school when they built…
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EP 665 Paul Nunes — Motorola, Combinatorial Innovation and the Treasure in the Trash
"When's the last time you thought about your suppliers as your partner in innovation?" Paul Nunes, co-author of Jumping the S-Curve, Big Bang Disruption and Pivot to the Future, returns to talk to Aidan McCullen about the companies that come back from the dead. Motorola is the case study,...
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Dov Baron — The Art of Belonging and Identity Addiction
"You don't want innovation. What you want is a tweak that won't be too uncomfortable." Dov Baron, five-time Top 30 Global Leadership Guru and author of The Art of Belonging, sits down with Aidan McCullen in Vancouver to explain why identity addiction is the hidden reason behavioural change fails…
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Ep 663: Alex Osterwalder — Why the Core Business Kills Innovation (Explore vs Exploit, Part 3)
"Exploitation pays your salary. Exploration pays your pension." — Steve Blank In Part 3 of The Innovation Show's Strategyzer series, Alex Osterwalder returns to tackle the problem every leadership team quietly struggles with: the core business kills everything that looks different. Building on...
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Alex Osterwalder — Value Proposition Design in the Age of AI (Part 2)
"You're gonna run up a hundred wrong hills, and you're still not gonna get a good understanding of the map." Alexander Osterwalder, co-author of Value Proposition Design and founder of Strategyzer, returns for Part 2 of our series. Last week: which projects to retire. This week: value proposition...
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Alex Osterwalder — Which Projects to Fund and Which to Kill
"Spreadsheets are a fantasy made explicit. They're not a metric. What you can measure is the evidence that the business case could work." Alexander Osterwalder, creator of the Business Model Canvas, CEO of Strategyzer and author of The Invincible Company, Testing Business Ideas and Value...
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Antonio Nieto-Rodriguez — Powered by Projects and the Project-Driven Organization
"If you launch more projects than you finish, you're a bad leader. Your role is not about launching projects — it's about finishing them." Antonio Nieto-Rodriguez, creator of the project economy concept and author of Powered by Projects, joins Aidan McCullen to explain why agile — a 20-year-old...
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Rita McGrath & Sangeet Paul Choudary — Rule Makers, Rule Takers and Structural Uncertainty
"Structural uncertainty is simple. The game itself is in question. The playing field is in question. You're no longer playing with uncertainty inside the rules — the rules are the thing that's moving." Rita McGrath wrote The End of Competitive Advantage and gave us transient advantage. Sangeet…
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Keith McCandless — The Surprising Power of Liberating Structures
"You don't have to be a methodological genius. These are patterns — 43 simple patterns that anyone can use to include every voice in shaping what happens next." Keith McCandless, co-developer of Liberating Structures and co-author of The Surprising Power of Liberating Structures, joins Aidan...
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Usman Sheikh — How AI Will Reshape Consulting: The End of the Pyramid
"AI doesn't have judgment in it — it produces judgment-shaped artifacts." Usman Sheikh, founder of High Output Ventures and author of the Framebreak newsletter, has spent years writing about how AI will reshape professional services — and the world has now caught up with the puck. In this...
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Carla Johnson — RE:Think Innovation and the Wheel of Innovation
"Innovation isn't a gift. It's a simple, repeatable five-step process that anyone, at any level, can learn — with nothing more than a stack of Post-it notes." Carla Johnson, author of RE:Think Innovation, is on a mission to teach one million people to consistently come up with new, great and...
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Carliss Baldwin & Kim Clark — Design Rules: How IBM Created Ecosystems (and Competitors)
"The act of modularizing your product is the very act of inviting your future competitors into existence." Carliss Baldwin and Kim Clark, authors of the landmark Design Rules: The Power of Modularity, join Aidan McCullen for an Innovation Show exclusive. Their book is the Rosetta Stone of…
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Jennifer Chatman — Transformational Leader or Narcissist?
"Narcissists do draw people in. They start with really appealing visions — and then the wheels come off." About 2% of people are narcissists. Among CEOs, it's roughly 16%. Jennifer Chatman — Dean of the Haas School of Business at UC Berkeley and one of the world's leading scholars of…
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Geoffrey Cain — Steve Jobs in Exile, Part 2: NeXT's Failures, Pixar's Lifeline and the Road Back to Apple
Steve Jobs sold barely 100 computers a month at NeXT — and told his team they'd sell 100,000. This is the decade everyone skips. Author Geoffrey Cain joins Aidan McCullen for part two on Steve Jobs in Exile, the story of the wilderness years between Jobs' 1985 ousting from Apple and his return....
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Geoffrey Cain — Steve Jobs in Exile: NeXT, Failure, Revenge and the Remaking of a Visionary
Steve Jobs was nearly bankrupt — down to his last $150 million, burning $50 million a year, with every product failing and every investor gone. Award-winning journalist Geoffrey Cain, author of Steve Jobs in Exile: The Untold Story of NeXT and the Remaking of a Technology Visionary, joins Aidan...
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AI Is Rewiring Organizations — McGrath, Osterwalder, Amla & Sheikh
One developer. Six months. An $80 million sale to Wix. That's not the future of work — it's already here. In this special panel from the Kyndryl Institute and The Innovation Show, host Aidan McCullen brings together four of the world's sharpest minds on strategy, innovation and disruption to...
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Eric Ries — How to Build an Incorruptible Organisation
What if the best practices taught in every business school are quietly destroying the organisations that follow them? Eric Ries — author of Incorruptible: Why Good Companies Go Bad and How Great Companies Stay Great and founder of the Long-Term Stock Exchange — joins Aidan McCullen to expose the...
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Bruce Vojak — Identifying, Developing and Managing Serial Innovators (Part 3 of 3)
"I don't like J work." That was Andy — a top serial innovator at SAIC — telling his manager Dennis what he needed to be protected from. J work, in Andy's field of computational electromagnetics, is the imaginary part of a number. To Andy, it meant the imaginary work: staff meetings, budget…
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Bruce Vojak — Navigating the Politics of Breakthrough Innovation (Part 2 of 3)
"I see dead people." That was Nancy Dawes' answer when Bruce Vojak asked her how she did it. The chemical engineer who took Olay from a dying brand to a billion-dollar product line wasn't being mysterious — she was telling him she saw patterns no-one else did. And the real burden, she realised,...
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Bruce Vojak — The Hourglass Model of Breakthrough Innovation
Most companies think innovation is a straight line. Bruce Vojak spent years studying the people who prove otherwise. Bruce Vojak is co-author of Serial Innovators: How Individuals Create and Deliver Breakthrough Innovations in Mature Firms (Oxford University Press). In this bonus episode of The...
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Bruce Vojak — Serial Innovators: The Hidden Power Inside Mature Firms (Part 1)
"These are the most important people you've never heard of." After interviewing more than 50 serial innovators inside the world's largest mature companies, Bruce Vojak knows something most boards don't: a tiny minority of people — roughly 1 in 500 inside a large firm — quietly create the...
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Jeff & Staney DeGraff — The Art of Change (DeGraff Trilogy Finale)
"Organisations love innovation, but they hate their innovators." Jeff and Staney DeGraff return to The Innovation Show to close out Aidan McCullen's DeGraff trilogy with their book The Art of Change. Their argument is direct: change rarely fails because of bad strategy or weak execution. It fails...
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Creativity Is a Skill: Jeff & Staney DeGraff on the C.R.E.A.T.E. Method (Clarify to Evaluate)
Description: Creativity isn't reserved for geniuses—it's a skill you can learn, practice, and compound over time. In this episode of The Innovation Show, Aidan McCullen sits down with Jeff and Staney DeGraff to explore their practical framework for everyday creativity: the C.R.E.A.T.E. method....
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Innovation Isn't Harmony—It's Conflict | The Innovation Code Explained
What if the real driver of innovation isn't alignment—but conflict? In this episode of The Innovation Show, Aidan McCullen is joined by Jeff and Staney DeGraff, co-authors of The Innovation Code, to explore a powerful idea: innovation emerges from the tension between opposing perspectives—not…
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AI and the Octopus Organization: Autonomy, Distributed Intelligence, and Faster Decision-Making
AI is triggering a "big bang" in how organizations operate—and those that adapt fastest will win. In this episode, Stephen Wunker and Jonathan Brill explore the concept of the Octopus Organization, where intelligence is distributed, decisions happen at the edge, and workflows—not jobs—are...
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Split the Pie: Barry Nalebuff on Fair Negotiation, Game Theory, and Better Deals
How do you negotiate firmly, fairly, and effectively — without becoming a jerk? In this episode of The Innovation Show, Aidan McCullen speaks with Barry Nalebuff — Yale professor, entrepreneur, and author of Split the Pie — about a principled approach to negotiation built around one simple idea:...
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Nokia Saw iPhone Coming - So What Went Wrong?
What if Nokia saw the iPhone coming and still couldn't stop it? In this episode, strategy professor Timo Partanen, former Nokia market intelligence leader (2001–2009), reveals what was really inside Nokia's internal iPhone threat briefing presented to senior leadership. Nokia had tracked Apple…
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Nokia's Comeback Explained: Emotion, Strategy & Boardroom Decisions
How did Nokia survive one of the most dramatic collapses in business history? In this episode, we explore the hidden driver of strategy under pressure: emotion. Drawing on research based on 100+ interviews inside Nokia between 2007 and 2013 , INSEAD's Quy Huy and Aalto University's Timo Vuori…
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Everyone Thinks the iPhone Killed Nokia. They're Wrong!
Most people believe the iPhone killed Nokia. But the real story behind Nokia's collapse is far more complex — and much more human. At its peak Nokia controlled nearly 50% of the global mobile phone market and had over one billion customers. Yet within a few years the company lost the smartphone…
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Who Killed Nokia? How Fear and Emotion Derail Strategy, Innovation, and Truth-Telling.
Nokia didn't lose the smartphone battle because it lacked smart people or a strategy deck. It lost because fear and shared emotions quietly reshaped attention, filtered information, and weakened truth-telling. Quy Huy (INSEAD) and Timo Vuori (Aalto University)—authors of the 2016 research on...
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The Spectacular Rise and Fall of BlackBerry with Jacquie McNish
BlackBerry once ruled the business world. Presidents, CEOs, and Wall Street relied on its encrypted devices. Then the iPhone arrived — and everything changed. In this episode, Jacquie McNish, co-author of Losing the Signal, unpacks the untold story behind: • The improbable rise of Research In...
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Corporate Innovation Strategy: Return Maps, Managing Up & Forecasting with Chuck House
Why does corporate innovation fail so often — even with talented teams and strong ideas? In this episode of The Innovation Show with Aidan McCullen, intrapreneur and innovation veteran Chuck House returns to explain why innovation dies when projects, programs, and strategy aren't clearly…
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Digital Transformation Playbook (10 Years On) AI, Disruption & Platform Strategy with David Rogers
This week's guest is David Rogers, Columbia Business School professor and author of Digital Transformation Playbook. We discuss digital transformation strategy, AI in business, disruptive innovation, platform business models, network effects, and leadership in the age of AI. If you're navigating...
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Behind the Music: The Strategic Genius of Taylor Swift Part 2 with Kevin Evers
In this episode, we explore the strategic brilliance of Taylor Swift with Kevin Evers, author of There's Nothing Like This. From genre-shifting reinventions to billion-dollar tours, Taylor's evolution isn't just musical—it's a masterclass in brand, resilience, and audience engagement. 🎯 We…
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The Strategic Genius of Taylor Swift with Kevin Evers-esv2-96p-bg-10p
In this episode, Aidan McCullen welcomes Kevin Evers, editor at Harvard Business Review Press and author of There's Nothing Like This: The Strategic Genius of Taylor Swift. Together, they explore how Taylor Swift built not just a music career—but a global business empire. From fearless…
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From Rambling to Impact The Power of Making a Point
📘 Guest: Joel Schwartzberg, author of Get to the Point & The Language of Leadership In this episode, we cut through the noise and get straight to the point—literally. Communication expert and author Joel Schwartzberg returns to discuss the art and science of clarity in communication. Whether...
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Unlocking the Power of Insights with Gary Klein | Insights and Innovation
In this episode, we sit down with Gary Klein, author of Seeing What Others Don't, to explore the fascinating science behind insights and how organizations can foster smarter thinking and innovation. Klein dives deep into over 120 real-world stories he's collected—ranging from Daniel Boone to...
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Classic Enhanced Audio Episode: Scott Galloway on Algorithms, Tech Giants, and the Retail Apocalypse
In this timeless episode of The Innovation Show, Aidan McCullen sits down with Scott Galloway, Clinical Professor of Marketing at NYU Stern, for a prescient conversation that remains highly relevant today. Recorded nearly a decade ago, this episode dives deep into: The rise of the…
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Navigating the Accelerated S-Curve with Paul Nunes
🔮 Navigating the Accelerated S-Curve with Paul Nunes | Big Bang Disruption & Shark Fin Strategy Welcome to episode 2 of our exclusive Harvard Business School series! 🎓 Join host Aidan McCullen as he interviews Paul Nunes, renowned as the King of the S-Curve, in a masterclass on navigating…
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Why Transitions Are Harder Than We Expect | Teresa Amabile on Reinvention & Life Phases
Based on a ten-year study, Teresa Amabile reveals why retirement—and any major life transition—requires far more psychological work than we expect. In this special episode of The Innovation Show, recorded at Klarman Hall at Harvard Business School, Aidan McCullen sits down with renowned...
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Epic Disruptions with Scott D. Anthony | The Innovation Show @ HBS
Join us for a special edition of The Innovation Show, recorded at Harvard Business School, featuring Scott D. Anthony, Clinical Professor at the Tuck School of Business and co-author of Seeing What's Next with the late Clay Christensen. Scott joins us to discuss his latest book, "Epic…
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The Intrapreneurs Rulebook with Chuck House
The Innovation Show with Aidan McCullen | Guest: Chuck House How do you drive real innovation inside a large organisation—without getting shut down by hierarchy, process, or short-term thinking? In this episode of The Innovation Show, host Aidan McCullen is joined by legendary Hewlett-Packard...
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Chuck House: Lessons on Intrapreneurship & Innovation Resistance
In this episode of The Innovation Show, Chuck House—legendary HP intrapreneur and author of Permission Denied—joins Aidan McCullen, host of The Innovation Show and a Thinkers50 Innovation Award recipient, to explore the real dynamics behind innovation inside large organizations. House shares how…
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The AI Revolution & Business Model Transformation | Osterwalder, Yu & Choudary
In this special Thinkers50 edition of Innovation Show X, sponsored by Kyndryl, host Aidan McCullen brings together three of the world's most influential management thinkers—Alex Osterwalder, Howard Yu, and Sangeet Paul Choudary—to explore how AI is transforming the architecture of business. What...
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Navigating the Age of Chaos Part 2 with Bob Johansen and Jamais Cascio
Mastering Chaos: Navigating the BANI Future with Bob Johansen & Jamais Cascio 🎙️ Episode Title: Mastering Chaos: Navigating the BANI Future 👥 Guests: Bob Johansen & Jamais Cascio 💡 Sponsored by: Kyndryl | Reimagining the tech systems powering global enterprise innovation. In this episode, Bob...
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Navigating the Age of Chaos Part 1 with Jamais Cascio And Bob Johansen
Episode Summary: In Part 1 of this two-episode series, Aidan McCullen is joined by futurists Bob Johansen and Jamais Cascio, co-authors of Navigating the Age of Chaos: A Sensemaking Guide to a BANI World That Doesn't Make Sense. The trio unpacks the BANI Framework — Brittle, Anxious, Nonlinear,...
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
The Innovation Show is a business innovation podcast hosted by Aidan McCullen, recipient of the 2025 Thinkers50 Innovation Award and author of Undisruptable. Each week Aidan interviews the authors, researchers and practitioners reshaping how organisations think about innovation, leadership, change and reinvention.The guest list reads like a who's who of innovation. Gary Hamel joined Aidan for an 18-part series. Seth Godin was the show's first guest, and Rita McGrath, Dee Hock, Robert Burgelman, Alex Osterwalder, Joe Bower, Clark Gilbert, Scott D. Anthony, Michael Tushman, Charles O'Reilly, Sven Smit, Paul Daugherty and Paul Nunes have all followed, alongside hundreds of thinkers you may not have heard of yet and will be glad you did.With 667 episodes, the show is a library for leaders who want to see disruption coming and for managers looking for practical ways to bring better ideas to work.This is the podcast where square pegs find their place in a world of round holes.
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