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The Jack and Cathy (Shit) Show
by Jack and Cathy
Hey, it's Jack and Cathy, and welcome to our Shit Show. We give you a front-row seat to the roller coaster of love. Marriage. Divorce. Starting again. Finding each other when it seemed impossible. Ever wonder what happens after the dating frenzy? We spill the beans on navigating relationships - the good, the bad, and the hilarious. Join us for real talk, anecdotes, and lessons on keeping the flame alive in the second act. It's not just a podcast; it's a guide to making love last. Subscribe for a laugh and some practical tips on thriving in the messy, beautiful world of lasting love.
Episodes
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EPISODE 134: A Whole Lotta Nuthin'
In this episode ... It's been tough to get our bearings lately. Work has been very busy for both of us. The world affairs (or moreover, US affairs) are exhausting. And as a result, enthusiasm for the podcast fades. We don't even have time to edit and manage the podcast let alone record it.…
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EPISODE 133: Back in the USA ...
In this episode ... We return from our trip to London and Ireland with a great appreciation for those two countries. Cathy was particularly taken with the beauty and wonder of Ireland. Jack not so much. Recorded Jun 14, 2026
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EPISODE 132: Wizard Sleeves London Tour 2026
In this episode ... Cathy and Jack head to London. Jack to explore on his own. Cathy to reconnect with friends from a long time ago. The group of wonderful women call themselves, The Wizard Sleeves. And they are hilarious. Perhaps one day we can get them on the show. Recorded 5/24/2026
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EPISODE 131: Back After a Brief Separation
In this episode ... We took a well-needed break from the podcast. Life became a, well, Shit Show. And yet, we have good problems so we are truly grateful. So, enjoy us being back. Recorded May 18, 2026
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EPISODE 130: Nearing the End of the Year and Busier than Ever
In this Episode ... Work mode Cathy and being super busy with life. Jack's 60th low-key birthday. Christmas shopping woes. Recorded 12/16/2025
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EPISODE 129: The Andrea Gibson Documentary
In this Episode ... We stumbled across this amazing, Sundance award-winning documentary about Andrea Gibson, poet laureate. The entire episode is devoted to how we moved we were of Andrea's story of live and love. And a special Happy Birthday to Carol and Sam Recorded 12/11/2025
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EPISODE 128: My Partner's Shortcomings and Acceptance
In this Episode ... Jack pokes the bear (because he enjoys annoying Cathy). Whistle skills. Shortcomings and accepting our partners. We need new gear for the studio. Monogamy is our way, but perhaps not for others. Recorded 11/30/2025
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EPISODE 127: Jack Gets Cocky? Or Empowered?
In this Episode ... Cathy and multi-tasking. Physical exhaustion at the end of the day and how good it feels. Jack's empowerment and Cathy's role. Recorded 11/19/2025
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EPISODE 126: The Struggle with Conflict
In this Episode ... Cathy and vanity (not). Jack takes a break from alcohol and shares intestinal challenges. The Jay Shetty Podcast with Dr. Orna Guralink regarding conflict and Cathy's take. Recorded 11/04/2025
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EPISODE 125: Jack and Cathy Contemplate the Shit Show of Politics
In this Episode ... Cathy and hard boiled eggs. The politics of our times. Jack stresses out Cathy (shocker) and fun times with The Skin Deep Cards. Recorded 10/26/2025
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EPISODE 124: Bro talk and other nonsense
In this episode ... Bro talk. Shoresy. Useless banter (surprise?). Moving into our new condo. A hole bunch of pointless rambling. And some fun at the end. Recorded August 22, 2025
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EPISODE 123: And We're Back ...
In this episode ... Our lives became busier than we imagined or could manage. Selling the house, finding another place, career stuff. It all meant the podcast took break. The Shit Show of our lives took over. Recorded August 13, 2025
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EPISODE 122: Flatulence Makes the Heart Grow Fonder
In this episode ... We have finally neared the end of the home remodeling phase of our Shit Show of a life. Our bathroom is nearly done and the stress has probably maxed us out. Maybe we're going to slow down and take some time off of remodeling homes ... but we doubt it. And so that's why we…
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EPISODE 121: Conflict Resolution with Dr. Leigh Ann Charlot
In this episode ... Last week we sat down with Dr. Leigh Ann Charlot, licensed clinical social worker and adjunct professor specializing in couple and family therapy. Specifically, we dove into the concept of conflict resolution. And no this wasn't a couch session for our own relationship, though...
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EPISODE 120: Anxiety, Worry, Pressure ... Gets Us All. So Now What?
In this episode ... We have been placing a ton of stress on ourselves as we work to finish the remodel of the house, start planning its sale and looking for an eventual new place to live. And the universe threw us a bone: a great class about Managing Anxiety ("Your Anxiety Tool Kit") in the…
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EPISODE 119: The Discussion of Politics and How We Respond
In this episode ... It's hard to avoid a discussion about politics particularly in the US. It feels as though it's the only thing ever discussed. And we are no different than any household or couple when it comes to this topic. Yet, we each respond to the political events our of lives differently...
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EPISODE 118: John Fox Shares His Story of Divorce and Growth
In this episode ... Jack's good friend, John Fox, joined the Shit Show to share his story of divorce. It's a great example of growth, change and self-study. Recorded 3/21/2025
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EPISODE 117: The Ways in Which Jack Continues to Annoy Cathy
In this episode ... We are finally back together, alone, after interviewing a few people for the podcast. Jack has a tendency to get under Cathy's skin especially when she's crabby or out of sorts. It's his way to try and defuse the problem by injecting poorly timed and inappropriate humor.…
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EPISODE 116: The Interview with Katie and Molly
In this episode ... This is a loooong podcast. Our longest ever. We originally thought to edit some of the pieces, yet after listening, we decided to let the camera and audio roll as is. Molly and Katie are Cathy's friends from long ago that reconnected via a surprise email. The couple moved to...
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EPISODE 115: My Interview with My Daughter, Ki
In this episode ... Two weeks ago, I traveled west for meetings and then an impromptu hangout with my daughter, Ki, in Seattle. We spent a ton of time in the shallow end of the pool (which tends to be the place where Ki is most comfortable). Over time, we dove into some heart-felt subjects and...
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EPISODE 114: What's Next for Us?
In this episode ... There have been several signs for us lately and many of them seem to be making sense. Conversations with new and old friends seem to be pointing us in a certain direction. Perhaps we are starting to listen to our gut as well. All of these recent events are causing us to ask…
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EPISODE 113: Aren't We the Greatest, Middle-aged, Divorced and Re-Married Couple
In this episode ... We decided to share a bit of bad week / good week information. Being near 60, divorced after more than 20+ years of marriage and trying to navigate a new life as a married couple means managing more than blended families or adjusting to diminished physical and mental skills.…
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EPISODE 112: And We're Back ... :(
In this episode ... A trip to Costa Rica with the kids was in the works for nearly a year. It required intense planning and coordination necessary to bring everyone together from all parts of the US. And now it is over. Finished. Complete. And we are truly sad. It was a marvelous trip not only...
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EPISODE 111: Off to Costa Rica!
In this episode ... This trip with all of our kids was planned since February of last year. It has long been a goal of ours to take the kids from this blended family on a vacations every other year. We settled in on Costa Rica. And the time is finally here. We talk about the upcoming trip and…
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EPISODE 110: We Listen and We Don't Judge
In this episode ... After a few minutes discussion plans for 2025 and how our collective careers may shift, we decide to have a bit of fun thanks to an Instagram post we watched featuring Kevin Bacon and Kyra Sedgwick. In their Instagram post, the couple shared some of the frustrations they have...
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EPISODE 109: Goals for 2025
In this episode ... We enjoy a few minutes banter about some relationship stuff. We also respond to our youngest son, Sam, who submitted a question for the year-end episode a bit too late for publication last week. And we also enjoyed changes to the studio for those of you watching: we now have 3...
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EPISODE 108: The End of Season 3 (Listener Questions)
In this episode … Jack and Cathy spend a few minutes sharing their desires to remain fit and, in the process, took on some new fitness routines like playing basketball - against one another! And then it’s on to the Year End Questions from the Shit Show Fans, now formally known as ShitHeads. Happy...
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EPISODE 107: The Holidays: The Worst of Us (Happens to Everyone this Time of Year)
In this episode … Jack and Cathy lift up the happiness factor by talking about how the Holidays can expose the worst parts of our relationships. Yep, deep end of the pool stuff to ring in the Christmas season. Yes. Merry Christmas. Recorded December 23, 2024
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EPISODE 106: The Holidays: Surprise Christmas Questions
In this episode … Jack and Cathy enjoy a great holiday party, get dolled up and then record this podcast, only to realize the video camera wasn’t working properly. So it’s mostly audio this time around. The two share Christmas memories and stories as they get closer to celebrating the big day....
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EPISODE 105: The Holidays , Movie Edition
In this episode … We jump right in discussing our favorite Holiday Movies. As is expected, Jack’s list includes a rom-com of sorts and Cathy’s list includes some all time classics. Chime in to the comments with your favorite Holiday movies. (and Happy Birthday to Mom and Sam) Recorded December…
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EPISODE 104: The Friends that Come and Go
In this episode … Statistics show that after 35 years old, we have earned most of the friends we will ever know in life. That making new friends as we age becomes increasingly difficult. We have both lost several friends in our lifetime - some by design, others because of the fragility of life.…
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EPISODE 103: The Challenge of the Holidays
In this episode … Everyone knows the Holidays can present all types of challenges. As many older parents know, once the kids leave the nest, seeing them is less frequent and the holidays only makes missing them even greater. This year, we’ve struggled a bit trying to make peace with the fact that...
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EPISODE 102: The Interview with Justin and Haley, Founders of the Price of Avocado Toast
In this episode … Hot damn we can’t stop talking about money! Social media has its good and bad. In this situation, Social Media introduced us to Justin and Haley, financial advisors and founders of the Price of Avocado Toast podcast and website. After interacting with some of their posts on...
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EPISODE 101: The Hard Conversation About Money
In this episode … As you get older, money habits are either good or bad. While we still have several viable work years ahead of us, odds are that our age might affect our earning potential in the next few years. We are both 58. The Motley Fool website recently posted this: “It was not surprising...
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EPISODE 100: The Reality of Politics and Dating in 2024
In this episode … Cathy loves our banter at the beginning of each episode and in this particular moment she wants to dive head-first into our disagreement on Wordle. But then we get into the meat of the podcast. Dating is hard enough, especially as we get older. With Red State / Blue State...
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EPISODE 99: The Inevitable Life Changes
In this episode … First, we have a beef with Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway for “stealing” or creative podcast introduction of talking first before then moving to our intro … as if this is actually something to be stolen. Still, it seems very interesting that we’ve been writing them and then...
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EPISODE 98: The Honeymoon
In this episode … Well, we are now married. After meeting 3 1/2 years ago on a dating app, we’ve closed the deal. And of course, there’s the honeymoon and consummation of our love and commitment (SMH). A trip to the UK visiting London, Bristol (to be with family) and Scotland (Edinburgh) was…
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EPISODE 97: The Wedding
In this episode ... We got married over the weekend. Three years after meeting online, here we are. Married. The ceremony and dinner was with family and friends. It was all amazing. We are both the luckiest people in the world. Recorded 10/07/2024
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EPISODE 96: The Craziness of Our Upcoming Marriage
In this episode … We re-hash our “Secret” conversation form the last episode, an episode we didn’t want to produce. And then we dive into how stunned we are to be getting married in one week. Were we lucky? Were we active in the dating seen to increase chances? Were we completely self-aware and...
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EPISODE 95: The Secret and Cathy
In this episode ... Cathy admits to living in a place where fear of the future (mostly money) negatively affects her. Living in "lack" means staying in lack. So Jack suggests they watch The Secret so that Cathy can better understand her reaction to life's events. Be warned ... Jack talks A LOT in...
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EPISODE 94: The Challenge of Parenting Adult Children
In this episode … During dinner with good friends, we talked about the challenges of parenting adult children. Or perhaps a better way to describe our conversation might be this: how do you push the kids out of the proverbial nest without bracing their potential fall. We all hope, as parents…
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EPISODE 93: The Start of the NFL Season and More
In this episode ... Last year, we made a bet regarding the Bears and the Packers. Cathy, a Packers' fan, won the bet and Jack has yet to pay up. And he tries his best to walk back from the money he owes. Plus, there's plenty of talk about relationships, the wedding and more. Recorded September 4,...
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EPISODE 92: The Overnight Stay with the Grandson
We had the chance to watch our new grandson for an overnight stay (sorta) - Mom and Dad showed up late in the morning after being at a wedding). Jack spent a few moments alone on long walks with the new edition romanticizing the evening only to have reality slap him in the face. Recorded 08/26/2024
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EPISODE 91: The People We Don’t Like
In this episode … We discuss people that drive us crazy. Actually, people that drive JACK crazy. Every once in a while other people can frustrate us. So be kind to everyone and remember (and embrace) that we live in a shared world. Recorded 08/19/2024
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EPISODE 90: The Baby, the Movies, the Follow-up with Linda and More
In this episode … We met with Linda (per our last Episode) and learned a bit more about one another. We also ramble on a bit about the new grand baby and movies … because of course there’s a connection between the two! Recorded 08/12/2024
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EPISODE 89: The Road is Not Always Rosy
In this episode … Between podcast episodes, we talked of how we don’t often share the challenges we face in our relationship. Maybe we need to be a bit more vulnerable with our life stories rather than only talking of house remodels and new babies. So Cathy decided it was time to share a tough…
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EPISODE 88: The Birth of a Grandchild
In this episode ... Jack's daughter and son-in-law welcome their first child and the first grandchild for everyone. The excitement is through the roof. But before we appropriately indulge in discussions about the newborn, Cathy learns a bit about the "Hawk Tuah" girl ... Recorded July 29, 2024
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EPISODE 87: The Love for Tequila and Other Nonsense
In this episode ... Our love of tequila comes out front and center to get things started. Perhaps we have a problem? We dive into plans for the wedding, Joe Biden stepping down and possible sponsorships. Simply, a mishmash of nothingness. That's podcasts, right? Right? Recorded July 23, 2024
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EPISODE 86: The Wedding Plans and a Question for the Listeners
In this episode … It’s rare - if ever - that we ask for listeners to provide their point of view on a topic. Yet here we are. We are getting married in a few months. To be sure, as with any wedding, the day is important to us but it’s not everything. It’s a day in our relationship. But we are...
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EPISODE 85: The Meeting of Other Divorcees
In this episode ... We met a few other couples whose life stories matched almost identically to ours: All divorced after long marriages, struggles post the divorce and finally settling in to a life of peace boosted by a second marriage. We were surprised how much this meeting impacted us and so…
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Hey, it's Jack and Cathy, and welcome to our Shit Show. We give you a front-row seat to the roller coaster of love. Marriage. Divorce. Starting again. Finding each other when it seemed impossible. Ever wonder what happens after the dating frenzy? We spill the beans on navigating relationships - the good, the bad, and the hilarious. Join us for real talk, anecdotes, and lessons on keeping the flame alive in the second act. It's not just a podcast; it's a guide to making love last. Subscribe for a laugh and some practical tips on thriving in the messy, beautiful world of lasting love.
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