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The Learning Curve with Lup Wai Podcast

A podcast for parents and educators, where we delve into the challenges and joys of parenting and raising curious learners.As a parent of 2, I am always on the look out for the better ways to parent my children and to raise them with curiosity. What Makes This Podcast DifferentRaw Conversations: No sugar-coating, just honest discussions about the messy, beautiful world of parentingExpert Insights: Learn from parents, psychologists, neuroscientists, and real-world experts who challenge conventional wisdomPractical Strategies: Actionable advice you can implement immediately, tailored to your unique family dynamicsWho Is This For?Exhausted parents feeling disconnected from their childrenNew parents seeking a different approachExperienced parents ready to transform their relationshipsAnyone who believes parenting is about connection, not control</li

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  1. 17

    What to Do When Your Child Says "I'm Stupid"

    Every parent dreads the moment their child hits a wall, throws down their pencil, and utters those crushing words: &quot;I&apos;m stupid.&quot; Our immediate reflex is to shield them. We say, &quot;No you&apos;re not!&quot; or &quot;You&apos;re so smart!&quot; But according to clinical mind-work, those automatic deflections never actually reach the child&apos;s belief system.In this episode of The Learning Curve, Lup Wai goes beneath the surface of childhood self-doubt with Teresa McDonald—a certified consulting hypnotist, former registered nurse of 16 years, and mother of four. Together, they explore the fascinating architecture of the conscious and subconscious mind in young learners.This episode is a masterclass in emotional orchestration, covering:The Critical Factor: Why young children absorb everything into their personality as &quot;truth,&quot; and how they rely on your nervous system to regulate theirs.The Subconscious &quot;Negation&quot; Glitch: Why the brain fails to process words like &quot;don&apos;t&quot; or &quot;not&quot;—and how you are accidentally setting up the wrong mental loops.The Transition Windows: How to use the alpha and theta brainwave states during morning wake-ups and bedtime routines to fill your child&apos;s &quot;cup&quot; with resilient self-talk.The Simmering Parent: A compassionate look at why we boil over when our kids struggle, and how resolving our own internal stress is the ultimate gift to our children.You don&apos;t need to be a flawless parent 24/7; you just need to know how to use the quiet moments to repair the loud ones. Tune in to discover how to transform temporary school frustration into lifelong, unshakable confidence.Resources Mentioned:Teresa McDonald, BSN, CHEmail: [email protected]: theresolutemindhypnosis.comIG: @theresolutemindhypnosis********************************************Make sure you hit subscribe if you haven’t already. And, if you’d like to check out my other channels...YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@LupWaiChanWebsite: www.lupwaiparentwhisperer.comInstagram: www.instagram.com/lupwai.chan

  2. 16

    The missing skills that are quietly breaking your relationship

    The #1 Reason Relationships Break Down – And What You Can Do About It!🎧 Featuring expert guest: Jan TalenIn this powerful podcast, we break down the 4 essential &apos;gears&apos; that drive healthy, connected relationships – and reveal how missing even one can lead to emotional burnout, resentment, and confusion between partners.👂 What you&apos;ll learn in this episode:✔️ Why most relationship conflicts aren’t really about what you think✔️ How to communicate what you truly want without guilt or fear✔️ The &quot;gears&quot; model that simplifies emotional connection✔️ What to do when your partner shuts down or misunderstands you✔️ How improving your relationship can create a calmer, safer environment for your kidsThis conversation is perfect for:✅ Moms feeling emotionally unsupported✅ Couples struggling to resolve recurring arguments✅ Parents trying to co-regulate better and model healthy communication for their children✅ Anyone who wants deeper connection and clarity in their relationships💬 Timestamps:0:00 – Intro &amp; why communication matters2:15 – Common communication breakdowns in relationships6:40 – The 4 &apos;gears&apos; of emotional connection12:00 – Real-life examples &amp; common mistakes18:30 – Healing triggers through better communication25:00 – Final takeaways and practical tools✨ Don’t forget to LIKE, COMMENT, and SUBSCRIBE for more empowering episodes on emotional resilience, mindful parenting, and relationship growth.PS: Here is the calendar link for the free conversation with Jan:  https://calendly.com/usandkids/fun-se...and here is the link to the podcast section of Jan&apos;s website if you want to find out more: https://www.usandkids.com/blog.For the gear drawing and discount links for 3 products, comment &quot;GEAR&quot; and I will send it to you Make sure you hit subscribe if you haven’t already. And, if you’d like to check out my other channels...YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@LupWaiChanWebsite: www.lupwaiparentwhisperer.comInstagram: www.instagram.com/lupwai.chan

  3. 15

    Parenting Unplugged: Breaking the Rules to Build Deeper Bonds

    What if parenting could be more than just giving orders and managing chaos? In this eye-opening episode, parenting expert Jen reveals a revolutionary approach to parenting that goes beyond traditional methods.Discover the powerful &quot;FUN&quot; framework that transforms how you connect with your children:Fulfilling: Creating meaningful interactions that matterUnlimited Conversations: Building trust through open dialogueNatural: Parenting authentically without pretenseJen shares raw, practical insights from her experience as a mother of four, including:How to customize your parenting approach for different personalitiesSecrets to staying calm during challenging momentsSurprising techniques to reset your emotional stateThe neuroscience behind children&apos;s emotional developmentSpecial highlight: A fascinating explanation of how children&apos;s brains develop, inspired by Dan Siegel&apos;s groundbreaking research, that will change how you understand your child&apos;s behavior.Whether you&apos;re a stressed parent, a new mom or dad, or someone seeking a more connected approach to raising children, this episode offers a lifeline of hope, understanding, and practical strategies.Get ready to break the rules and build deeper, more meaningful bonds with your children.PS: Here is the calendar link for the free conversation with Jan:  https://calendly.com/usandkids/fun-sessionand here is the link to the podcast section of Jan&apos;s website if you want to find out more: https://www.usandkids.com/blog.Make sure you hit subscribe if you haven’t already. And, if you’d like to check out my other channels...YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@LupWaiChanWebsite: www.lupwaiparentwhisperer.comInstagram: www.instagram.com/lupwai.chan

  4. 14

    Nurturing Bonds: The Life-Changing Blueprint for Family Harmony

    Join us for an insightful conversation with marriage and family therapist, Jan, as we explore the vital connection between a happy marriage and a happy family! Discover Jan&apos;s unique concept of wearing different &quot;hats&quot; – the marriage hat, the parenting hat, and others representing various roles we play. Learn how to keep your &quot;marriage hat&quot; closest to your brain and how it connects with the parenting hat to create a harmonious family environment.In this episode, you&apos;ll learn:• The importance of connection and the hormones that facilitate it.• How to handle tension and reset emotions in a healthy way, including the power of a cold drink, warm beverage, or crunchy snack.• Why body language speaks louder than words and how to use it effectively.A moving story about how Jan&apos;s husband prioritized their marriage, inspiring them to make shifts in their life and to continue that journey.Plus, Jan is offering a free 60-minute phone call to provide support and encouragement! Here&apos;s the link to schedule a call with her: https://calendly.com/usandkids/fun-sessionJan&apos;s website: https://www.usandkids.com/Get ready to transform your relationships with Jan&apos;s invaluable insights! This is the first of a series of episodes with Jan. Stay tuned!Make sure you hit subscribe if you haven’t already. And, if you’d like to check out my other channels...YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@LupWaiChanWebsite: www.lupwaiparentwhisperer.comInstagram: www.instagram.com/lupwai.chan

  5. 13

    How to help our children with learning at home

    Being a mom and a teacher, i know how difficult it is to teach our own children. I have my ups and downs and along the way, I have learned how to be aware and conscious of how they feel and how they learn. Through the highs and lows of this journey, I&apos;ve discovered the importance of being attuned to my children&apos;s emotions and individual learning styles. Recognizing that everyone learns differently, I&apos;ve realized the futility of expecting our children to mirror our own learning paths.Trust me, is a tough and long journey. Sometimes, lonely too. But with support we are able to avoid many bumps along the way. Thus, Miss Kay and I come together in our endeavour to cultivate young minds and assist parents in their pursuit of education. It&apos;s a collaborative call to action, a reminder that we&apos;re here to help each other in the challenging, rewarding world of parenting.Parents, if you&apos;re seeking effective tools for managing emotions, inspiring a love for learning, and building lasting connections with your children, this episode is a must-listen. Miss. Kay&apos;s wisdom is sure to resonate with parents seeking guidance in nurturing their child&apos;s emotional intelligence and academic success.Miss Kay&apos;s website: https://kaytasticlearning.com/Make sure you hit subscribe if you haven’t already. And, if you’d like to check out my other channels...YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@LupWaiChanWebsite: www.lupwaiparentwhisperer.comInstagram: www.instagram.com/lupwai.chan

  6. 12

    Unveiling the Supermom Secret - How to Thrive in Every Role

    In this part of the conversation, we discuss how parents can instill a sense of purpose and a desire for a positive impact in our children&apos;s lives. Susan emphasizes the importance of teaching kids the values of respect, service, and gratitude as a way to shape their perspectives and set them on a path towards creating a lasting legacy.She has also shares a remarkable technique that allows you to remove yourself from challenging situations and observe them from a detached perspective and how to guide our children, even ourselves, to focus and reach our goal. PS: Don&apos;t miss the FREE gift from Susan to you on breaking those chains and stepping into life changing Freedom which allows you to be the best version of yourself you can be at LiveFreeChecklist.com where she helps you to break down top 3 tips that took her decades and tens of thousands of dollars to uncover!Make sure you hit subscribe if you haven’t already. And, if you’d like to check out my other channels...YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@LupWaiChanWebsite: www.lupwaiparentwhisperer.comInstagram: www.instagram.com/lupwai.chan

  7. 11

    Empowering Moms: Navigating life like a CEO

    In this thought-provoking episode, we&apos;re joined by the remarkable Susan Brown, an inspirational speaker, best-selling author, legacy coach, and real estate investor. But, most importantly, she&apos;s a homeschool mom who has harnessed the power of thinking like a CEO in her life. Join us as we dive into Susan&apos;s incredible journey from homelessness and hopelessness to achieving success and genuine freedom.Episode Highlights:- A Journey of Transformation: Susan Brown takes us on a remarkable journey from her challenging past to her current life as a successful entrepreneur and homeschool mom.- The Power of Multitasking: Discover how Susan manages to juggle multiple roles as a homeschool mom, author, inspirational speaker, and real estate investor.- The Art of Writing: Susan&apos;s passion for writing and speaking stems from her innate desire to inspire and uplift fellow moms, creating a legacy of positivity.- Balancing Personal Aspirations and Family Responsibilities: Explore Susan&apos;s strategies for finding balance and prioritizing personal dreams while managing the demands of family life.- Thinking Like a CEO: Uncover the game-changing concept of thinking like a CEO, which Susan shares as a powerful tool for transforming your decision-making and time management.- The Vision of Freedom: Susan&apos;s mission is to help people discover true freedom, not just in financial terms but mentally, allowing individuals to tap into their limitless potential.- The Visual of &quot;Unstrapping Yourself from the Train Tracks&quot;: Susan presents a powerful visualization technique that empowers you to let go of overwhelming circumstances and observe them from a distance.- The Eternal Perspective: Learn how viewing life from an eternal perspective can bring simplicity and gratitude to your daily experiences.Stay Tuned for Part 2:The wisdom shared by Susan Brown is not just a one-time event. Part 2 of this captivating conversation is on its way, where Susan will delve even deeper into practical steps for implementing the CEO mindset. You&apos;ll uncover how to delegate, prioritize, and make decisions aligned with your long-term vision.Don&apos;t Miss Out: Subscribe Now!You can find out more about her at:LegacyGameChangers.com and/or SusanBrownCoaching.comMake sure you hit subscribe if you haven’t already. And, if you’d like to check out my other channels...YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@LupWaiChanWebsite: www.lupwaiparentwhisperer.comInstagram: www.instagram.com/lupwai.chan

  8. 10

    Nurturing Siblings in a Special Needs World

    Today&apos;s conversation focuses on a crucial aspect of parenting: nurturing the siblings of special needs children. Lup Wai and Carinne delve into the common emotions and reactions that typically develop among siblings growing up alongside a brother or sister with special needs. Carinne shares her expertise in supporting and caring for these siblings effectively.Carinne&apos;s unique perspective as a mother of two, one with complex medical needs and the other typically developing, has led her to reflect on how her children&apos;s experiences differ. She even published a blog about nurturing naturally setting children in a special needs world, a valuable resource.In this episode, she discusses all children&apos;s five essential developmental needs: a secure and nurturing environment, responsive caregivers, opportunities for exploration and learning, social interactions, and routines. Carinne provides practical tips and insights on addressing these needs while balancing the unique challenges of raising a special needs child.If you find this episode valuable, please like, subscribe, and share it with others who might benefit from this meaningful discussion. Also, remember to check out Carinne&apos;s blog for further insights and resources (Website: https://www.ittakesavillagenc.com/)Thank you for joining us on &quot;The Learning Curve with Lup Wai.&quot; We&apos;ll be back soon with more inspiring conversations to help you navigate the challenges of parenthood and education. Stay tuned!Make sure you hit subscribe if you haven’t already. And, if you’d like to check out my other channels...YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@LupWaiChanWebsite: www.lupwaiparentwhisperer.comInstagram: www.instagram.com/lupwai.chan

  9. 9

    Unlocking Stronger Parent-Child Bonds Through Empathy From Conception Through Adulthood

    Parenting is a beautiful yet challenging adventure, and we understand the emotional rollercoaster it can be. Moments of frustration, miscommunication, and feeling like you&apos;re just not on the same page with your child are all part of the journey. In this episode, we dive into the heart of the matter – how to bridge the emotional gap with our teenagers. With expert insights and real-life stories, we uncover meaningful ways to decode those one-word responses, weather the emotional outbursts, and ultimately, nurture a bond that can withstand anything.If you&apos;ve ever found yourself struggling to bridge the gap between you and your child, yearning for a deeper understanding of their world, and seeking to create unbreakable emotional bonds, you&apos;re in the right place.This episode is here to illuminate the path to a more harmonious and empathetic parent-child relationship.Today’s special guest, Edna Ang, will be sharing the key to unlock the secrets of understanding your child&apos;s heart and mind, and embark on a path towards building unbreakable parent-child bonds. Because when empathy leads the way, remarkable connections are bound to follow.Listen now and start creating the meaningful parent-child relationship you&apos;ve always envisioned. 🎧❤️Edna is giving a complimentary 30mins discovery call to find out more about how she can work together to help your teenager soar to greater heights to build a happy and successful future. To find out more, whatsapp her at +65 97210381 Make sure you hit subscribe if you haven’t already. And, if you’d like to check out my other channels...YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@LupWaiChanWebsite: www.lupwaiparentwhisperer.comInstagram: www.instagram.com/lupwai.chan

  10. 8

    Empowering Parents with Effective Communication Strategies with Shruti

    Being a mom of 2 children as they are growing up, there are always never ending of parenting struggles and one main struggle is communication. Today, we have Shruti joining us in this podcast. She understands the struggles of parenting. Like many of us, she experienced moments of connection and days when she wasn&apos;t her best self, snapping and yelling. This led her to embark on a journey of understanding her child&apos;s behavior and her own reactions, seeking ways to communicate mindfully with her little ones.📖 Shruti&apos;s journey took her to the enlightening book &quot;Nonviolent Communication&quot; by Dr. Marshall Rosenberg, which transformed her parenting style. Now, she is passionate about teaching parents how to lead with compassion, kindness, respect, and empathy while fostering cooperation without resorting to manipulation or threats.🌟 Better relationships with our children and everyone else in our life can only be achieved via conscious communication. In order to improve our ability to communicate with our spouse and children, Shruti highlighted the four fundamental pillars.  🎧 Struggling with parenting? Tune in to this heartwarming episode to learn mindful communication and build a strong bond with your kids! 🎧If you want to find out more, you may connect with Shruti on her website: www.empoweredconnections.nl or find her on Instagram as Empowered Connections. Make sure you hit subscribe if you haven’t already. And, if you’d like to check out my other channels...YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@LupWaiChanWebsite: www.lupwaiparentwhisperer.comInstagram: www.instagram.com/lupwai.chan

  11. 7

    Understanding your child's academic position with Mikela Kay

    Are my children able to catch up? Am I pushing too hard or am I too chill?Are my children able to cope socially on top of academically?With 2 school-going children, I can feel the anxiety and lost at times. There are so many areas to watch out for and some times it get really overwhelming and frustrating both on the parents and children. Are you a parent with school-going child and concerned about your child&apos;s learning journey? In this episode, we have Miss Kay from Kaytastic Learning sharing her nuggets on how we can discover our child&apos;s learning gap and support their learning journey. Miss Kay is a highly qualified educator with 11 years of experience working in a school setting and she truly believes that learning is lifelong, and have dedicated many years in studying Education.Join us as we delve into the common pain points faced by parents and explore effective strategies to overcome them. From academic challenges and online learning difficulties to identifying your child&apos;s academic position and fostering social and developmental growth, this video offers valuable insights and practical tips. Discover how to navigate the disruptions caused by the pandemic, support your child&apos;s academic progress, and nurture their overall well-being. Don&apos;t miss out on this essential guide for parents on their children&apos;s learning journey. Subscribe now and empower yourself to be the best support system for your child&apos;s educational success!You can find Ms Kay athttps://www.instagram.com/kaytasticlearningMake sure you hit subscribe if you haven’t already. And, if you’d like to check out my other channels...YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@LupWaiChanWebsite: www.lupwaiparentwhisperer.comInstagram: www.instagram.com/lupwai.chan

  12. 6

    Embracing Imperfection in Parenting with Allyn

    Successful parenting involves embracing the journey, prioritizing open communication, and fostering a loving and supportive environment. It&apos;s important to remember that no one is perfect, and it&apos;s okay to seek help when needed.I am very honoured to be able to invite Allyn Miller to my podcast where we chatted about understanding parenting dynamics from having the power of self-awareness in parenting to managing stressful situations to unlocking the secrets of successful parenting with her strategies. I am really blessed and thankful that Allyn has also shared her special gift to all our listeners her #1 Tool for Moms to Keep Cool at https://www.child-connection.com/keepcool-gift If you would love to know more about her, connect with her on Instagram @child_connection At the meantime, enjoy this episode!Make sure you hit subscribe if you haven’t already. And, if you’d like to check out my other channels...YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@LupWaiChanWebsite: www.lupwaiparentwhisperer.comInstagram: www.instagram.com/lupwai.chan

  13. 5

    Navigating Challenges of Special Needs Parenthood with Carinne

    Parenting is never an easy job. It is even tougher when you are raising children with unique needs. Today at Learning Curve, we are going to talk about the world of special needs parenting and exploring the challenges that parents face while raising children with unique needs. My special guest for today is Carinne Mossa. She is a mother of 2 children,  one of whom has a rare seizure disorder called Dravet (DRA-VE) Syndrome, as well as global developmental delays and Autism Spectrum Disorder. She will present her experience of parenting a child with special needs, as well as the instruments and strategies she&apos;s been using during this remarkable journey.Raising children, where uncertainty prevails over every decision that we make, can feel like an isolated way of life. We&apos;re constantly asking ourselves, &quot;Are we doing it right or wrong?&quot;Sometimes, however, we will encounter many obstacles that need us to be strong enough in order to create a safe environment for ourselves and our children.I hope this episode encourage all parents of special needs children to embrace their role with strength and resilience. Don’t forget that in this journey, you are not never alone. Take charge of your life, seek help and I think you will be able to create a nurturing and loving environment that&apos;s going to allow both mother and child to thrive.You can find out more about her at:https://www.ittakesavillagenc.com/Make sure you hit subscribe if you haven’t already. And, if you’d like to check out my other channels...YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@LupWaiChanWebsite: www.lupwaiparentwhisperer.comInstagram: www.instagram.com/lupwai.chan

  14. 4

    Unconditional Love: A Journey of Self Healing and Parenting

    Are you being seen, heard, and valued for who you truly are ?Do you love conditionally or unconditionally?As parents, we often find ourselves navigating the complex terrain of love. At times, we unintentionally offer our love to our children with expectations and conditions. This can be the results of how we were being loved and parented. It&apos;s time to break free from old patterns, heal your wounds, and unlock the incredible potential within you. The type of love we offer shapes our relationships and influences the way we interact with the people around us, especially our children.Jenny Ng&apos;s story is one of profound transformation and healing—a journey that has led her to become a guiding light for parents seeking deeper connections with their children.With a decade of experience in education, adult education, parent and family life education, and problem-based learning environments, Jenny brings a wealth of knowledge to her coaching practice.  Join us on a thought-provoking exploration of the self-healing journey, where we challenge conventional wisdom and dive into the depths of conscious parenting on today&apos;s episode!You can find Jenny Ng on jennyng.coachMake sure you hit subscribe if you haven’t already. And, if you’d like to check out my other channels...YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@LupWaiChanWebsite: www.lupwaiparentwhisperer.comInstagram: www.instagram.com/lupwai.chan

  15. 3

    Mealtime without Meltdowns: Expert Advice for Parents of Picky Eaters with Auntie Corina

    In this podcast episode, we will be discussing about how parents can handle picky eaters, especially young children, without turning meal times into a power struggle.Our special guest today is from Canada, Corina Taylor. She is also known as Auntie Corina parenting coach with 15 years of experience raising other people’s kids. She will be sharing with us her personal experiences and offers advice on how to help children without feeling guilty if they choose not to eat. The episode emphasizes the importance of offering food and letting children make their own choices about eating.Make sure you hit subscribe if you haven’t already. And, if you’d like to check out my other channels...YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@LupWaiChanWebsite: www.lupwaiparentwhisperer.comInstagram: www.instagram.com/lupwai.chan

  16. 2

    Challenged by parenting teens? Here's how to tackle it head-on!

    Struggling to navigate the challenges when parenting teenagers or even younger children especially in this new age world? In this episode, I get to learn from Kristie Chen, a certified coach for parenting and youth issues, to learn more about parenting teen.  We&apos;ll discuss practical strategies for tackling common issues that arise in relationships with teens and children, from communication breakdowns to being an active listener. Whether you&apos;re a new parent or a seasoned parent, you&apos;ll gain new insights and tips that will help you foster healthy and positive relationships with your teen and children. Join us for this important conversation and learn how to tackle parenting challenges head-on!Visit her LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/kristie-chen-5895205Make sure you hit subscribe if you haven’t already. And, if you’d like to check out my other channels...YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@LupWaiChanWebsite: www.lupwaiparentwhisperer.comInstagram: www.instagram.com/lupwai.chan

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A podcast for parents and educators, where we delve into the challenges and joys of parenting and raising curious learners.As a parent of 2, I am always on the look out for the better ways to parent my children and to raise them with curiosity. What Makes This Podcast DifferentRaw Conversations: No sugar-coating, just honest discussions about the messy, beautiful world of parentingExpert Insights: Learn from parents, psychologists, neuroscientists, and real-world experts who challenge conventional wisdomPractical Strategies: Actionable advice you can implement immediately, tailored to your unique family dynamicsWho Is This For?Exhausted parents feeling disconnected from their childrenNew parents seeking a different approachExperienced parents ready to transform their relationshipsAnyone who believes parenting is about connection, not control</li

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