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The Measure Pod

The Measure Pod is your go-to fortnightly podcast hosted by seasoned analytics pros. Join Dara Fitzgerald (Co-Founder at Measurelab) & Matthew Hooson (Head of Engineering at Measurelab) as they dive into the world of data, analytics and measurement—with a side of fun.

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    #146 Assimilated by Anthropic: What We Lost When the Harness Died

    Full show notes and transcript  - https://bit.ly/4xGyU4hWatch on YouTube - https://youtu.be/xzgSD35JdZY-----Episode Summary:Dara and Matthew open on the news: Opus 5 landing days after they predicted it, the verbosity problem and the missing layer that would pick a model for you, Anthropic's Mythos creating fake GitHub identities and coercing maintainers in UK AI Security Institute testing, EU AI Act Article 50 transparency rules entering into force, a study where readers rated AI-written stories above human ones, and outsourcing workers in Manila losing the jobs they trained AI to do. The main event is harnesses: why OpenClaw was so addictive, what they each built on top of it, and what was lost when Anthropic blocked subscription access and everything moved over to Cowork. They land on the uncomfortable idea that most of the frustration with today's tools is self-inflicted, and that the way forward is rebuilding the memory and context systems they quietly gave up.-----About The Measure Pod:The Measure Pod is your go-to fortnightly podcast hosted by seasoned analytics pros. Join Dara Fitzgerald (Co-Founder at Measurelab) & Matthew Hooson (Head of Engineering at Measurelab) as they dive into the world of data, analytics and measurement, with a side of fun.-----If you liked this episode, don't forget to subscribe to The Measure Pod on your favourite podcast platform and leave us a review. Let's make sense of the analytics industry together!

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    #145 Bye-bye internet: a web built for machines, not people

    Full show notes and transcript  - https://bit.ly/4w3ZEueWatch on YouTube - https://youtu.be/UtfypSwBCGw-----Episode Summary:Dara and Matthew open on the news: an OpenAI model that escaped its sandbox and hacked Hugging Face and whether that's a frighteningly capable model or just a badly built sandbox, plus GPT-6 and Opus 5 rumours, Google's new Gemini Flash models, Apple suing OpenAI over hardware secrets, Moonshot's Kimi K3, and AI disproving an 87-year-old maths conjecture. The main event is the dead internet: bots now make more web page requests than humans, so what happens to trust, to model training, and to the economics of the open web when agents do the reading? They land on the argument that the web cannot serve humans and agents at once, and that the problem underneath all of it is a human one rather than a technological one.-----About The Measure Pod:The Measure Pod is your go-to fortnightly podcast hosted by seasoned analytics pros. Join Dara Fitzgerald (Co-Founder at Measurelab) & Matthew Hooson (Head of Engineering at Measurelab) as they dive into the world of data, analytics and measurement, with a side of fun.-----If you liked this episode, don't forget to subscribe to The Measure Pod on your favourite podcast platform and leave us a review. Let's make sense of the analytics industry together!

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    #144 The vanishing rung: what's left when agents do the work

    Full show notes and transcript  - https://bit.ly/4puDkZ9Watch on YouTube - https://youtu.be/uPkDBu9sW7I-----Episode Summary:Dara and Matthew open on the news: OpenAI's GPT-5.6 and its new Sol, Terra and Luna tiers, Fable's return via US export controls and what that precedent means, and the rising cost of AI as companies like Uber burn through their budgets. The main event is the human question: as agents take on more of the routine work, how does the analyst's role change, and where does the human add the most value? They trace the shift from data-wrangling to custodianship of context and judgement, weigh Jevons paradox against job losses, and land on the uncomfortable idea that this time the resource being automated is intelligence itself, so the higher rung we would normally climb to may be the one that vanishes.-----About The Measure Pod:The Measure Pod is your go-to fortnightly podcast hosted by seasoned analytics pros. Join Dara Fitzgerald (Co-Founder at Measurelab) & Matthew Hooson (Head of Engineering at Measurelab) as they dive into the world of data, analytics and measurement, with a side of fun.-----If you liked this episode, don't forget to subscribe to The Measure Pod on your favourite podcast platform and leave us a review. Let's make sense of the analytics industry together!

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    #143 Stick, twist, or wait for Clippy: A week inside OpenAI

    Full show notes and transcript  - https://bit.ly/4ev1DlNWatch on YouTube - https://youtu.be/ZSDSk6R4ugg-----Episode Summary:Dara and Matthew spend a week putting OpenAI through its paces (ChatGPT, Codex and deep research) against their daily driver, Claude. A blind four-way experiment building a running-race predictor surfaces a clear split: deep research goes to OpenAI, while coding and long-horizon agent work stay with Claude. They close with a stick-or-twist verdict, taking in Anthropic's recursive self-improvement claims, a near-trillion-dollar valuation, Microsoft's own models, and the case for renaming everything Clippy.-----About The Measure Pod:The Measure Pod is your go-to fortnightly podcast hosted by seasoned analytics pros. Join Dara Fitzgerald (Co-Founder at Measurelab) & Matthew Hooson (Head of Engineering at Measurelab) as they dive into the world of data, analytics and measurement, with a side of fun.-----If you liked this episode, don't forget to subscribe to The Measure Pod on your favourite podcast platform and leave us a review. Let's make sense of the analytics industry together!

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    #142 Google's agentic era: Next '26 and I/O '26 unpacked

    Full show notes and transcript  - https://bit.ly/google-agentic-eraWatch on YouTube - https://youtu.be/eamMBmm6oTU-----Episode Summary:Dara and Matthew open with a breaking-news bulletin on Anthropic's newly released Fable, the consumer sibling to Mythos, covering its safety off-ramp to Opus 4.8, its pricing, and the looming switch from subscription to usage-based access. The main episode is a deep dive on Google Cloud Next '26 and I/O '26, unpacking the Gemini Enterprise Agent Platform, Gemini 3.5 Flash, Omni, Antigravity 2.0, WebMCP, and the shift to generative AI search. The thread running through it all: agents are the headline, but governance and a solid semantic layer are the subplot that makes them actually useful.-----About The Measure Pod:The Measure Pod is your go-to fortnightly podcast hosted by seasoned analytics pros. Join Dara Fitzgerald (Co-Founder at Measurelab) & Matthew Hooson (Head of Engineering at Measurelab) as they dive into the world of data, analytics and measurement, with a side of fun.-----If you liked this episode, don't forget to subscribe to The Measure Pod on your favourite podcast platform and leave us a review. Let's make sense of the analytics industry together!

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    #141 Introducing SEAM: Siloed Data, Central Intelligence

    Full show notes and transcript  - https://bit.ly/introducing-seam-podcastWatch on YouTube - https://youtu.be/rvRd4nep3QU-----Episode Summary:Dara and Matthew return after a break with a bumper news roundup covering frontier model updates, Google I/O and Next, Anthropic's Mythos and Project Glasswing, and the latest AI design tools. The main event is the official reveal of SEAM (Semantic Engine for Agent Mediation), Measurelab's new product that sits between LLMs and downstream data sources to bring governance, intelligence modelling, and consistent answers to AI-powered workflows.-----About The Measure Pod:The Measure Pod is your go-to fortnightly podcast hosted by seasoned analytics pros. Join Dara Fitzgerald (Co-Founder at Measurelab) & Matthew Hooson (Head of Engineering at Measurelab) as they dive into the world of data, analytics and measurement, with a side of fun.-----If you liked this episode, don't forget to subscribe to The Measure Pod on your favourite podcast platform and leave us a review. Let's make sense of the analytics industry together!

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    #140 Taming BigQuery costs with Alvin.ai (with Martin Sahlen)

    Full show notes and transcript  - https://bit.ly/bq-cost-tamingWatch on YouTube - https://youtu.be/2QxXQH6waLk-----Episode Summary:In this episode of The Measure Pod, Dara and Matthew welcome Martin Sahlen, CEO and co-founder of Alvin.ai. Martin shares his journey from studying computer science in Norway to serial entrepreneurship, eventually settling in Tallinn, Estonia, where he founded Alvin. He explains how the company pivoted from data lineage and observability into a focused BigQuery cost optimisation platform that automatically routes queries between billing models to deliver savings, charging a percentage of what it saves. The conversation covers Alvin's transparent, no-lock-in approach, the duality of cost and performance optimisation, and the competitive dynamics of operating alongside Google's own tooling.-----About The Measure Pod:The Measure Pod is your go-to fortnightly podcast hosted by seasoned analytics pros. Join Dara Fitzgerald (Co-Founder at Measurelab) & Matthew Hooson (Head of Engineering at Measurelab) as they dive into the world of data, analytics and measurement, with a side of fun.-----If you liked this episode, don't forget to subscribe to The Measure Pod on your favourite podcast platform and leave us a review. Let's make sense of the analytics industry together!

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The Measure Pod is your go-to fortnightly podcast hosted by seasoned analytics pros. Join Dara Fitzgerald (Co-Founder at Measurelab) & Matthew Hooson (Head of Engineering at Measurelab) as they dive into the world of data, analytics and measurement—with a side of fun.

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