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The Media Show
by BBC Radio 4
Social media, anti-social media, breaking news, faking news: this is the programme about a revolution in media.
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YouTube and the battle for television’s future
As the Edinburgh TV Festival gets under way, attention is focused on YouTube's growing position in the television market. Against a backdrop of changing viewing habits and competition between broadcasters and digital platforms, questions remain about audience reach, commissioning and distribution. Alison Lomax, Managing Director of YouTube UK, talks to Ros Atkins and outlines the company's position. Jamie MacDonald, Head of Originals at After Party Studios, Richard Cowles, CEO of Lifted Entertainment, and Claire Mundell, Managing Director and Creative Director of Synchronicity Films outline priorities and predictions for their areas of the industry.Producer: Lisa Jenkinson Assistant Producer: Laura Cain
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Jason Arday: examining the media coverage after his death
The death of Cambridge academic Jason Arday has prompted intense debate about media conduct, following weeks of reporting on allegations of plagiarism and questions about aspects of his life story. Critics have accused journalists of contributing to an atmosphere of relentless scrutiny, while others argue that legitimate public interest questions were being pursued. Nick Clark, a childhood friend of Jason Arday, reflects on his experience of speaking to reporters. Charles Moore, columnist at The Telegraph and The Spectator, Seun Matiluko, freelance journalist, Sarah Ditum, Times Columnist and Stephen Bush, columnist at the Financial Times, consider questions of proportionality, public interest and journalistic responsibility.Presenters: Katie Razzall and Ros Atkins Producer: Lisa Jenkinson
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Jason Arday, Investigating Football, Broadcasters Moving to YouTube
This programme was broadcast before the announcement of the death of Jason Arday.The resignation of Cambridge professor Jason Arday is one of the biggest stories to hit British academia in years. We speak to Times Higher Education journalist Jack Grove, who began investigating allegations of plagiarism more than a year ago but says legal threats prevented his publication from reporting them at the time.Last month, The Times’ Martyn Ziegler revealed that FIFA president Gianni Infantino had been exploring plans to sell stakes in the World Cup to private investors. He joins New York Times Global Sports Correspondent Tariq Panja to discuss what it takes to break a major football story.And as established broadcasters like Holly Willoughby move onto YouTube, does success on TV automatically translate online? Former Top Gear presenter James May joins us to reveal what he’s learned from building his own successful YouTube channel, Planet Gin.Guests: Jack Grove, Reporter and Deputy Features Editor, Times Higher Education; Martyn Ziegler, Chief Sports Reporter, The Times; Tariq Panja, Global Sports Correspondent, The New York Times; James May, Presenter, Planet Gin; Lucy Brown, Producer, Planet Gin; Holly Graham, Chief Commercial and Strategy Officer, Little Dot Studios.Producer: Dan Hardoon Presenter: Katie Razzall
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Alternative Hollywood films, oral archive of local newspapers, prison radio
How is a new wave of film-making finding success by appealing to traditional American values? Ros Atkins speaks to Max Tani of Semafor as well as Brandon Purdie of Angel Studios and Kelly Merryman Hoogstraten of Wonder Project about how these films are finding an audience and making money.Also on the programme, a project to archive the oral history of local newspapers. Ros is joined by former BBC journalist Clare Jenkins, Alan Powell, former editor of the Sheffield Star, and Jim Waterson, editor of London Centric, to discuss the changing landscape of local news.Plus, we hear how prison radio is helping people prepare for life outside of jail with Garth St Clair, the co-Founder of Rise Maximum Radio in Trinidad and Tobago, and Ninna Gaensler-Debs, the co-director of Uncuffed, a training programme for prisoners in California.Presenter: Ros Atkins Producer: Laura Cain
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Reporting the wildfires, Interviewing Elon Musk, CEO of Reach Piers North
What are the unique challenges of covering the devastating wildfires in France and Spain? Ros Atkins hears from Sadiya Chowdhury from Sky News and Mehdi Lebouachera, Global Director at AFP, whose colleague Maximilien Lamy photographed the viral image of beachgoers observing the fires. The Economist's editor-in-chief Zanny Minton Beddoes joins Ros to discuss her viral interview with Elon Musk. Plus, the CEO of Reach, Piers North, explains why the publisher is changing its strategy to move away from volume towards original content. And Abi Watson, Head of Publishing at Enders Analysis, and James Warrington, Media and Telecoms Editor at The Telegraph, provide analysis.
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Andrew Neil, the PM and the press, AI actor Tilly Norwood
Social media has been an important way for the new Prime Minister to get his message across, but where does that leave the traditional media? Katie and Ros discuss with Lizzy Buchan, Political Editor of the Daily Mirror and Chair of the Lobby; Jennifer Gerber, Burnham’s former special advisor; and the creator and founder of Slow News Day, Tom Nicholas. Also on the programme, broadcaster Andrew Neil shares why he’s moving to Youtube for his new weekly podcast series The Andrew Neil Report. Plus, the filmmaker Eline Van der Velden explains why she’s created the controversial AI actor Tilly Norwood, with Deadline’s Jake Kanter analysing the response from Hollywood.
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Iain Dale, on a life in the media and politics, TV production rights, Trump subpoenas NYT journalists, BBC Annual Report
Katie Razzall presents The Media Show.Broadcaster and author Iain Dale, whose new memoir Have I Said Too Much? is out now, reflects on a career spanning politics, publishing and radio, and considers how public debate and the media have changed.We analyse the BBC's annual report with Rhodri Talfan Davies, Deputy Director-General of the BBC, discussing the corporation's performance, funding pressures and future direction.The programme also looks at proposed changes to the television industry's terms of trade. Joining the discussion are Tim Hincks, Co-CEO of Expectation, and Kate Beal, Founder and CEO of Woodcut Media and a Pact Council member to debate what the reforms could mean for producers, broadcasters and programme rights.Finally, Claire Atkinson, founder of The Media Mix newsletter and contributing editor at The Ankler, joins us from the US to discuss the Trump administration's subpoenas issued to New York Times journalists and the wider implications for press freedom and national security reporting.Producer: Lisa Jenkinson
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Nigel Farage and the media, Prince Harry legal case, doorstepping
In a packed week for media news, Katie Razzall and Ros Atkins talk to Sunday Times investigative journalist Gabriel Pogrund about their article into Nigel Farage's finances which triggered a strong reaction, culminating yesterday in Mr Farage's resignation as an MP and his decision to run again in a by-election. Journalists Michael Crick and Brendan O'Neill discuss Nigel Farage's relationship with the media, his claims about press treatment over two decades, and the wider debate over how public figures are scrutinised. Media lawyer Susan Aslan is on hand to explain the reasons why Prince Harry lost his legal case against the publisher of the Daily Mail. And Michael Crick and the BBC's Sue Mitchell discuss the art and ethics of 'doorstepping'. Producer: Tim Bano
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Jamie Murray, Sky ITV deal, Building a media business
Katie and Ros are joined by seven-time Grand Slam tennis champion Jamie Murray as he launches The Set, a Youtube channel, with his brother Andy. The co-host of The Tennis Podcast, Catherine Whitaker, reflects on the changing tennis media landscape. Also on the programme, Deadline's Max Goldbart dissects Sky’s plans to take over part of ITV. Lachlan Cartwright, founder of the media news site Breaker Media, reveals the challenges and opportunities of building an independent business after decades in legacy media. Plus, we discuss the controversy around the Russian cartoon series Masha & The Bear. Since the programme was recorded, a spokesperson for the producers of Masha & the Bear, has been quoted in news coverage as saying “my client categorically rejects the false and defamatory suggestion that Masha and the Bear is associated with propaganda”.
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Andy Burnham's media strategy, smart glasses and filming in public places, BBC Long Wave closes
Katie Razzall and Ros Atkins look at Andy Burnham's media strategy with Jennifer Williams, North of England Correspondent for the Financial Times, and Joshi Herrmann, founder and editor of The Mill. The shop workers Union says the filming of its member is becoming widespread, with Jayne Allport, National Officer at USDAW, on the impact. Carlos Barragan, New York Times reporter and author of The Yahoo Boys: Real Life with the Love Scammers of Lagos, on going under cover with romance fraud networks. And as BBC long wave closes Jeffrey Borinsky explains its place in broadcasting history.Producer: Lisa Jenkinson
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BBC cuts, Ritula Shah, Norma Percy, Filming protests
As the BBC announces new cuts, Jonathan Munro, Interim CEO of BBC News & Current Affairs, joins Katie and Ros to discuss the decision. Ritula Shah, former presenter of the World Tonight on Radio 4, reacts to the news that the programme is being axed.The acclaimed documentary maker Norma Percy reflects on making Brexit: A Very British Civil War and her wider career. Also on the programme, Siddharth Venkataramakrishnan from the ISD analyses the trend of ‘auditors’ and ‘citizen journalists’ filming at the recent Southampton protests. Plus, the Youtuber Wesley Winter explains why he filmed there.
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Alex Kay-Jelski, World Cup coverage, Belfast reporting, Influencers in Russia
As the World Cup kicks off, Ros and Katie speak to Alex Kay-Jelski, the BBC’s Director of Sport about his ambitions for the tournament and vision for BBC Sport. We also hear from two football journalists covering the World Cup: Craig Hope from the Daily Mail is reporting on the England team from Orlando, while Daniel Storey from The i is embarking on a solo road trip across the US. Also on the programme, the BBC’s Dan Johnson reflects on his experience covering the disorder in Belfast following Monday night’s knife attack. Plus, Samantha Berkhead from The Moscow Times and Evie Aspinall from the British Foreign Policy Group discuss how states use influencers to wield soft power around the world.
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Laura Kuenssberg, SNP embezzlement story, Rafa documentary, 60 Minutes
The BBC’s Laura Kuenssberg joins Ros and Katie to discuss her exclusive interview with Nicola Sturgeon, the first since her estranged husband pleaded guilty to embezzling £400,000 from the SNP. John Ferguson, Political Editor at the Sunday Mail in Scotland, also shares his experience of reporting on the story from the very beginning. Also on the programme, director Zach Heinzerling discusses how he secured unprecedented access to tennis player Rafael Nadal for his Netflix documentary Rafa. Minal Modha from Ampere Analysis assesses whether we are in the middle of a sports documentary boom. Plus, analysis of the ruptures in CBS’ 60 Minutes newsroom by Michael Grynbaum from The New York Times.
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Lord Grade, Media access to local councils, Vincent Bolloré profile, Reporting on the heatwave
TV grandee and former Chairman of Ofcom, Michael Grade, joins Katie Razzall to discuss his outlook on the broadcasting sector. The Society of Editors is warning that local journalists are struggling to get access to elected councillors. Its CEO Dawn Alford shares her concerns, and we get the views of Oliver Rouane-Williams, founder and editor of Ipswich.co.uk, and Michael Hadwen, Reform leader of Suffolk County Council. Over 600 figures in French cinema have signed an open letter voicing concerns about the influence of French billionaire Vincent Bolloré. The BBC’s James Waterhouse introduces us to the media tycoon often dubbed the ‘French Rupert Murdoch’. Plus, what are the editorial challenges of reporting on the heatwave? Laura Tobin, ITV’s weather presenter, joins us to discuss.
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The new BBC Director General Matt Brittin, MAFS under investigation & Richard Madeley goes inside El Salvadore's CECOT mega jail
The BBC’s new Director General Matt Brittin joins Katie Razzall and Ros Atkins live on his third day in the job. We examine serious allegations revealed by BBC Panorama that have led to Married At First Sight being pulled with BBC Culture Correspondent Noor Nanji. Richard Madeley on his new documentary inside El Salvador’s mega jail CECOT and there'll be analysis from the Sunday Times Media Editor Rosamund Urwin throughout.Producer: Lisa Jenkinson Content Producer: Lucy Wei.
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Munya Chawawa; journalists and access to prisoners in jail; Family influencers and the boundaries of parenting online.
Katie Razzall and Ros Atkins are joined by comedian and filmmaker Munya Chawawa to discuss satire and his new documentary Wrestling with Trump. They examine the limits on journalists’ access to prisoners with Emily Bolton from Objection and Guardian writer Simon Hattenstone. What are the boundaries for parents in the booming world of family influencers with author Fortesa Latifi and Jasmine McInnes aka @winging_mamahood. And Spectator political correspondent Noa Hoffman on whether the media is driving political chaos at Westminster or simply reporting on the unfolding events.Producer: Lisa Jenkinson
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AI judging journalists, the BBC’s “Wrong Guy”, Saudi Arabia's media strategy, covering climate change
This is a programme about the revolution in media.
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King Charles's US visit, attacks on journalists, I'm a Celeb editing row
Ros Atkins and Katie Razzall on some of the week’s biggest media stories:As King Charles III visits the United States, we ask how the media is covering the event on both sides of the Atlantic. We also examine attacks on journalists around the world following the killing of a Lebanese reporter in an Israeli air strike. A row over I'm a Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here! raises questions about how reality television is edited. Plus, as a new series of Virgin Island begins on Channel 4, we speak to one of the people behind the format.Guests: Sean Coughlan, Royal Correspondent, BBC News; Jack Blanchard, managing editor, POLITICO; Christina Lamb, chief foreign correspondent, The Sunday Times; Lauren Morris, Culture News Editor, The Independent; Donald Clarke, edit producer in reality television; Rob Davis, executive producer and co-owner of Double Act.Producer: Dan Hardoon
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The future of teleshopping, Hungary's media post Orban defeat, Danny Robins from Uncanny, Mandelson vetting row scoop
Ros Atkins and Katie Razzall on some of the week's biggest media stories: QVC is restructuring its business in the US while remaining popular in the UK, with analysis from Katie Linsell, UK retail reporter at Bloomberg News, alongside Rob Locke, presenter for ITV’s ShopOnTV, and consumer expert Kate Hardcastle, author of The Science of Shopping. We also examine the Guardian investigation into the vetting of Peter Mandelson’s appointment as UK Ambassador to Washington, with Paul Lewis, Head of Investigations at the Guardian, discussing national security, leaks and public trust. AsHungary elects a new prime minister after sixteen years of Viktor Orbán, we ask what the change could mean for press freedom, with Professor Amrit Singh of NYU School of Law and Hungarian political journalist Iván Nagy. Plus, Danny Robins, creator of Uncanny, joins us live to talk about turning a Radio 4 podcast into a television series, live stage show and fan phenomenon.Producer: Lisa Jenkinson
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BBC job cuts, Journalist detained in Kuwait, HBO Max enters UK streamer market, Reporting the Artemis II launch
The BBC’s interim Director General Rhodri Talfan Davies talks to Katie Razzall and Ros Atkins following the announcement of major job cuts across the corporation. Jodie Ginsberg from the Committee to Protect Journalists on the detention of Ahmed Shihab Eldin in Kuwait. BBC Science Editor Rebecca Morelle reflects on covering the Artemis II launch, after her emotional reaction went viral And as HBO Max launches in the UK with record sign‑ups, we assess its strategy and what the arrival of another major streamer means for British audiences.Producer: Lisa Jenkinson
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Ronan Farrow on investigating OpenAI and Sam Altman, Misha Glenny, Bel Trew & Madhumita Murgia
This week on "The Media Show" with Katie Razzall we hear from Ronan Farrow about his major New Yorker investigation into OpenAI and its chief executive Sam Altman.Madhumita Murgia, the Financial Times’ Artificial Intelligence Editor, examines how the media should scrutinise AI leaders and whether tech journalism risks oversimplifying personalities at the centre of vast systems.Misha Glenny reflects on historic parallels in the concentration of technological power, drawing on his new series "Race to Control the World" his role as the new presenter of "In Our Time".And Bel Trew, The Independent’s Chief International Correspondent, reports on the realities of covering the war with Iran from access and safety, to misinformation and the growing role of AI in shaping narratives.Producer: Lisa Jenkinson
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Scott Mills' exit & Tim Davie's final week at the BBC, AI-assisted journalism, new UK research project on teens & social media
Katie Razzall and Ros Atkins discuss some of the week's biggest media stories:Jane Martinson of the Guardian and Max Goldbart of Deadline on Scott Mills' departure from the BBC and Tim Davie's legacy as Director General of the corporation.As newsrooms around the world continue to debate the use of artificial intelligence in reporting, we hear from Fortune Business Editor Nick Lichtenberg who outlines his method for producing AI-assisted articles.After two recent United States rulings which found Meta and YouTube liable for developing addictive platform features, we talk to the BBC North America Technology Correspondent Lily Jamali about the legal arguments and potential consequences for design and regulation. Interface designer Aza Raskin from the Centre for Humane Technology explains the tools used by platforms to keep people scrolling, and we hear about a major new UK scientific trial to assess the impact of reduced social media use among teenagers from Professor Amy Orben of the University of Cambridge.Producer: Lisa Jenkinson
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Matt Brittin profile, How to cold call a president, The Policing and Media Charter, Jamie Bartlett
As Matt Brittin is confirmed as the BBC’s new Director-General, we discuss his in-tray with Alex Farber from The Times. We look at the relationship between the press and police with Alan Woods from the National Police Chiefs’ Council and Rebecca Camber from the Daily Mail, who were involved in putting together the new Policing and Media Charter. Natalie Fahy from The Nottingham Post also joins us to discuss her experience of reporting the Nottingham attacks as the public inquiry continues. Plus, how to cold-call President Trump. Edward Luce from the Financial Times and Max Tani from Semafor give their top tips. And the journalist and writer Jamie Bartlett takes us behind the scenes of his new BBC Radio 4 series Everything is Fake (And Nobody Cares).
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Bonus interview Lisa Nandy MP Culture Secretary
Ros Atkins talks to Lisa Nandy MP Secretary of State for Culture Media and Sport
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Lisa Nandy on saving local news and the future of the BBC, reporting from inside Iran & behind the scenes at the Oscars
Ros Atkins and Katie Razzall with some of the week’s biggest media stories:Culture Secretary Lisa Nandy talks about her plans to support local news, the £12 million funding package she’s announced, and what she thinks the future holds for the BBC.CNN Senior International Correspondent Frederik Pleitgen explains how he gained access to Iran to report from the ground during the war and how he navigated restrictions, safety, and criticism of his coverage.And behind the scenes at the Oscars with the BBC’s Tom Brook and The Ankler's Katey Rich. From falling TV ratings to rising production costs, the move to streaming, and what this year’s ceremony reveals about the state of the film industry.Producer: Lisa Jenkinson Assistant Producer: Laura Cain
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The people shaping American media including Mehdi Hasan, Jeffrey Goldberg, Sarah Smith and Johnny Harris
This week on The Media Show, Ros Atkins is in Washington DC, speaking to some of the most influential voices in American journalism. He talks to Jeffrey Goldberg, Editor in Chief of The Atlantic, Mehdi Hasan, Editor in Chief and CEO of Zeteo, the BBC’s North America Editor Sarah Smith, and filmmaker and YouTube creator Johnny Harris. Together, they reveal how very different media organisations are covering President Trump’s war with Iran and how they see the US media landscape at this moment.Producer: Lisa Jenkinson Content Producer: Lucy Wai
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Media coverage of Middle East conflict, Green Party’s by-election victory chances "missed" by journalists? Nonagenarian podcast
Katie Razzall hears how the conflict in the Middle East is being covered across the region with staff from the BBC Monitoring Unit. Christina Lamb, Chief Foreign Correspondent at the Sunday Times, Aaron Bastani from Novara Media and broadcaster Sir John Tusa discuss whether day to day crisis reporting is crowding out the deeper story of geopolitical realignment. We also discuss whether the were media blind spots behind the Green Party’s shock win in Gorton and Denton. And Sir John Tusa returns to talk about his new podcast The Best Is Yet to Come - why he’s interviewing the over 90s, and what a lifetime in broadcasting has taught him about how the media should evolve.Producer: Lisa Jenkinson Content Producer: Lucy Wai
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Baftas fallout , Reporting on the Ukraine War four years on, the power of photography to capture the essence of a story
Katie Razzall and Ros Atkins on the biggest media stories of the week, including: Jake Kanter from Deadline on the racial slur shouted during the Baftas ceremony which made it into the BBC’s broadcast. Anthony Loyd, special correspondent at The Times, reflects on his latest trip to Ukraine, while the BBC’s Olga Malchevska discusses how the anniversary is being covered across Eastern Europe and the personal impact of reporting on her home country. Suzanne Plunkett, Chief Photographer at Reuters, and Arthur Edwards, long serving royal photographer for The Sun, explain how the now viral picture of Prince Andrew leaving police custody was taken and why royal photos matter more than ever. And the BBC’s Sean Coughlan and Ingrid Seward, editor in chief of Majesty Magazine, explore how the palace press team manages public messaging and whether a more direct communication style is now unavoidable.Producer: Lisa Jenkinson Assistant Producer: Lucy Wai
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MTV’s legacy, the new Lucy Letby documentary on Netflix and the traditional ad agency in crisis.
On this edition of The Media Show, Ros Atkins examines the continuing public interest in the Lucy Letby case, as a new Netflix documentary reaches the top of the UK viewing rankings. He speaks to Josh Halliday, North of England Editor at The Guardian, and Dr Bethany Usher of Newcastle University, whose work focuses on the ethics of true‑crime storytelling and the development of new guidelines for the genre.Tom Freston, co‑founder of MTV, reflects on how the channel’s launch in 1981 transformed popular culture and what its closure in the UK and Europe signifies for its legacy.And we assess the state of the advertising industry following one of its most challenging years on record. James Kirkham, founder of Iconic, discusses his view that the traditional agency model is in steep decline, while Becky Owen, Chief Marketing Officer at Billion Dollar Boy, outlines the rapid expansion of influencer marketing and the new dynamics shaping the sector.Producer: Lisa Jenkinson
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Revelations about the Murdoch dynasty in new book, Reporting on the Starmer crisis, Washington Post cuts, Ofcom under scrutiny
Gabriel Sherman joins Katie Razzall and Ros Atkins to discuss the real‑life Murdoch family battle at the heart of his new book , Bonfire of the Murdochs, including the secret Nevada court case that pitted Rupert Murdoch against his own children. We assess the reporting of a turbulent week in Westminster with Catherine Neilan, Whitehall Editor at The Observer and Simon Nixon, publisher of the Wealth of Nations newsletter and a former journalist at the Wall Street Journal and The Times.As The Washington Post lays off around 300 staff, we talk to one of them, reporter Marissa Lang and former senior managing editor, Cameron Barr, assesses what comes next.And we discuss the issue of balance and due impartiality in the digital age as Ofcom faces criticism for declining to investigate a GB News interview with Donald Trump. Producers: Lisa Jenkinson & Dan Hardoon
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Tina Brown on the latest Epstein files, the boundaries of behind-the-scenes access in sport, reporting on a rocket launch
On The Media Show Katie Razzall and Ros Atkins consider the new Epstein files and how journalists work through huge document releases while avoiding misinterpretation. The Financial Times’ Jim Pickard explains how newsrooms decide what is reliable and what is not and the veteran editor Tina Brown gives her take from across the Atlantic. We look at the growing demand for behind the scenes cameras in sport. Former British tennis number one Johanna Konta and Minal Modha from Ampere Analysis discuss how much access athletes should be expected to give and whether privacy is being eroded. And finally, with the delay of the Artemis II mission the BBC’s Science Editor Rebecca Morelle and Dr Chris Lintott from The Sky at Night talk about launch scrubs, shifting timelines and the practical realities of reporting on spaceflight.Producer: Lisa Jenkinson Assistant Producer: Emily Channon
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Viral videos shaping reporting in Minnesota, Radio 1’s Christmas Presenter Takeover, Algorithm Transparency and Skyscraper Live
On The Media Show with Ros Atkins. Meg Anderson, NPR correspondent in Minneapolis, explains how newsrooms are managing a surge of online footage and what it means for journalism. Aled Haydn Jones, Radio 1 Controller; DJ Sian Eleri and Chelsea Little on the Radio 1 Christmas Presenter Takeover. James Ball Tech journalist and author of “The System: Who Owns The Internet And How It Owns Us” unpacks what algorithms are, and whether the move towards increased transparency by platforms will actually give users more control. And Vicky Jessop, commissioning editor and culture writer at the Evening Standard, joins us to discuss Netflix’s Skyscraper Live and whether extreme risk is becoming a new form of entertainment.Presenter: Ros Atkins Producer: Lisa Jenkinson Assistant Producer: Laura Cain
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Greenland coverage, Australia’s social media ban, Brand Beckham
As tensions rise between the US and Europe over Greenland, how are international media reporting the story? Elisabet Svane, political analyst at Politiken in Denmark, and Michael Birnbaum, White House reporter for The Washington Post discuss their approach. Jamie Angus, former head of the BBC World Service, says the BBC should move faster into unblockable technologies to reach people in repressive regimes. He explains why, alongside Evie Aspinall, Director of the British Foreign Policy Group. One month on, how successful is Australia's under 16s social media ban? We hear from Bronte Gossling from the Sydney Morning Herald as the UK government considers a similar move. And we unpack the media storm surrounding Brooklyn Beckham’s bombshell Instagram post with Simon Boyle, freelance showbiz journalist and former showbiz editor at The Sun; and Mail on Sunday columnist and former editor of British Vogue Alexandra Shulman.
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Grok AI, Media coverage of the Iran protests, Hamnet film producer Liza Marshall and inside prison radio
Katie Razzall and guests discuss how Iran’s recent protests have sparked debate about how they were covered by international media. We speak to BBC Persian’s Behrang Tajdin, Lyse Doucet, and Conservative MP Tom Tugendhat about the challenges of reporting from one of the world’s most restricted environments. Also, Elon Musk’s AI chatbot Grok is under fire for generating sexualised, non-consensual images of women and children. Ofcom has launched an investigation under the Online Safety Act, and the UK government is preparing new laws to ban ‘nudification’ tools. We hear from Chi Onwurah MP and CNN’s Hadas Gold on what this means for tech regulation. Plus, Phil Maguire, co-founder of the Prison Radio Association, reflects on building the world’s first national radio station for prisoners and its impact on rehabilitation. And Liza Marshall, producer of the new film Hamnet, reveals how she secured the rights early - before Maggie O’Farrell’s novel became a global sensation- and what it takes to back a winner in Hollywood.Producer: Lisa Jenkinson Assistant Producer: Lucy Wai
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US raid on Venezuela & what it says about military-media relations, Actors & AI, Influencers at Westminster & the lobby system
Katie Razzall and Ros Atkins on what the media knew and when regarding the US military raid on Venezuala. They're joined by US based journalist Max Tani from Semafor the Defence Editor at the Times Larisa Brown and Brigadier Geoffrey Dodds who oversees the UK’s D notice system.Actors fight back against the TV and film industry using AI scanning on their images without consent with the General Secretary of Equity Paul Fleming.And as the government brings in changes to the lobby briefing system for journalists with more influencers being invited to press events we talk to personal finance content creator Rachel Harris, journalist Steve Richards and head of the Westminster press lobby Lizzy Buchan. Producer: Lisa Jenkinson Content Producer: Lucy Wai
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How to Make a Hit TV Show
Have you ever wondered how reality TV gets made? Why some shows become instant classics, while others vanish without trace?In this special edition of The Media Show, four of the UK’s top creatives in unscripted television reveal their secrets. From The Traitors to Pointless, Hunted to Gogglebox, they discuss what makes a hit format, how casting decisions are made, how streamers and influencers are changing the landscape, and where the next big hit might come from.Guests: Tim Harcourt, Chief Creative Officer, Studio Lambert; Matt Bennett, Director of Programmes, Shine Television; Tamara Gilder, Joint MD, Remarkable Entertainment; Art Sejdiu, Head of Commissioning Development, Channel Four.Presenters: Ros Atkins and Katie Razzall Producer: Dan Hardoon
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Jeremy Vine’s legal battle, Bondi Beach attack coverage, , BBC charter renewal pressures, Trump’s $5bn lawsuit and microdramas
Ros Atkins on some of this week's biggest global media stories. Jacqueline Maley of the Sydney Morning Herald talks us through the newsroom’s challenge in covering the Bondi Beach attack during a Hanukkah celebration - a story shaped by rapidly circulating bystander video, fraught community tensions and intense scrutiny over tone and verification.Jeremy Vine reflects on his hard‑fought legal victory after sustained defamatory and harassing posts from former footballer Joey Barton.Media correspondent Alex Farber of The Times examines the BBC’s newly launched charter renewal process, the debate around future funding models, and how all this intersects with President Donald Trump’s lawsuit against the corporation over an edited Panorama clip.And finally, Mengchen Zhangfrom the BBC’s Global China Unit explains the rapid global rise of the microdrama - the ultra‑short, phone‑first video dramas attracting huge investment and reshaping viewing habits around the world.Producer: Lisa Jenkinson Assistant Producer: Lucy Wai
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The battle for Warner Bros, Eurovision controversy latest over Israel participation, festive TV battles and Meta’s pivot to AI.
Katie Razzall and Ros Atkins on some of the biggest media stories this week:Hollywood is in turmoil as Netflix agrees to buy Warner Bros Discovery’s film and streaming businesses for $72bn, but Paramount has stepped in with a rival bid that could reshape the industry. We’ll hear from Natalie Jarvey, reporter at The Ankler, and Dade Hayes, Business Editor at Deadline, and Charlotte Henry author of Streaming Wars about what this means for franchises like Harry Potter and Game of Thrones, and for the future of streaming itself.Eurovision faces its biggest crisis in years, with countries pulling out over Israel’s participation and broadcasters debating whether to air the contest at all - BBC Music Reporter Mark Savage joins us with the latest. Meanwhile, the Christmas edition of the Radio Times, once as much a part of the season as mince pies and port, fights to remain relevant in the streaming era. We’ll be joined by Shem Law, Brand Editor of the Radio Times.And as Mark Zuckerberg’s Meta cuts back on its metaverse ambitions, shifting billions into artificial intelligence we talk to Alex Hern, AI writer at The Economist.Producer: Lisa Jenkinson Assistant Producer: Lucy Wai
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Ian Hislop, Gary Lineker's new podcast deal with Netflix, YouTubers filming drug and alcohol use in Manchester, football piracy
This week on The Media Show with Ros Atkins: Ian Hislop joins us to talk satire, lawsuits, and the making of Private Eye. We’ll hear why the Manchester Evening News is putting up a paywall, and ask whether YouTubers filming drug and alcohol use in Manchester count as journalists. Football piracy is costing the sport billions - we’ll explore the scale of the problem. And Gary Lineker signs with Netflix for his Rest Is Football podcast.Producer: Lisa Jenkinson Assistant Producer: Lucy Wai
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The Reith Lecture row, Telegraph sale & CNN documentary MisinfoNation: White Genocide
Katie Razzall and Ros Atkins on some of the biggest stories shaping the UK and global media. Dame Caroline Dinenage MP Chair of the Culture Media and Sport Committee, former Financial Times editor Lionel Barber, and Max Goldbart from Deadline discuss the BBC crisis: from Samir Shah’s leadership challenges to Shumeet Banerji’s damning resignation letter, and the controversy over editing Rutger Bregman’s Reith Lecture to remove a line about Donald Trump. We also examine the £500m sale of the Telegraph to the Daily Mail group – one of the biggest consolidations in British media – and ask what it means for press plurality with Dr Alice Enders from Enders Analysis and CNN’s Donie O’Sullivan on his new documentary MisinfoNation: White GenocideProducer: Lisa Jenkinson Assistant Producer: Lucy Wai
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Manager of YouTube's Sidemen Jordan Schwarzenberger, BBC crisis latest, Ed Sheeran Netflix producer Ben Winston
Katie Razzall and Ros Atkins discuss the latest developments in the BBC’s ongoing crisis after President Trump threatens a multi-billion dollar lawsuit with: Baroness Tina Stowell, Conservative Peer and former Head of Corporate Affairs at the BBC and the Media Editor at the Sunday Times Rosamund Urwin. Phil Riley, co-founder of Boom Radio, warns that BBC Radio risks becoming an 'orphan asset' unless the BBC rethinks its funding and leadership and Jordan Schwarzenberger, co-founder of Arcade Media and manager of The Sidemen, argues Gen Z won’t pay the licence fee and calls for a creator-led, platform-savvy BBC that can compete in a decentralised media world.And Ben Winston, producer of The Kardashians, Gavin and Stacey, and the upcoming 2028 Olympic ceremonies talks about his latest project: a Netflix documentary with Ed Sheeran, filmed entirely in one take.Producer: Lisa Jenkinson Assistant Producer: Martha Owen
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How do we fix the BBC?
On this week’s edition of The Media Show Katie Razzall and Ros Atkins take you inside the biggest crisis to hit the BBC in decades. A Panorama edit of Donald Trump’s speech has spiralled into a leadership meltdown, culminating in the simultaneous resignation of the Director General and Head of News. The BBC Chair is under fire, the Board is divided, and the President of the United States is threatening legal action. All this as the BBC begins negotiations for a license fee renewal in a shifting media landscape. Joining the show to make sense of it all are: John Shield, former BBC communications chief, now at the advisory firm Teneo, Jamie Angus former World Service director and Today programme editor, Tim Montgomerie, journalist and cohost of Not Another One podcast, Jane Martinson, Guardian columnist and with the view from America the former editor of Vanity Fair and The New Yorker Tina Brown. Producer: Lisa Jenkinson Assistant Producer: Martha Owen
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Mishal Husain, Andy Wilman and the Traitors Finale
Ros Atkins and Katie Razzall talk to Mishal Husain about her new Bloomberg radio show and her departure from the BBC after 26 years. Andy Wilman, the creative force behind Top Gear and Clarkson’s Farm, shares candid insights from his new book and decades of collaboration with Jeremy Clarkson. As Celebrity Traitors heads into its nail-biting finale, executive producer Mike Cotton reveals how the show became one of the year’s biggest hits. And we unpack the BBC’s latest controversy - Panorama’s editing of Donald Trump’s Capitol riot speech - and what it means for public trust in journalism. Producer: Lisa Jenkinson
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Play for Today relaunch, diversity in advertising, streaming consolidation, Bettany Hughes and Treasures of the World
Katie Razzall and guests discuss some of this week's media stories including: The relaunch of the drama series Play for Today by Channel 5 with actors Anita Dobson and Nigel Havers who star in one of the new productions and Graham Kibble-White Head of TV & Radio at The Telegraph. After Reform MP Sarah Pochin complained about adverts being "full" of black and Asian people we look at representation in UK advertising with Dino Myers-Lamptey, Founder, The Barber Shop and Sara Denby, Director, Oxford Future of Marketing Initiative, Oxford University. We discuss consolidation in the streaming industry and ask what it could mean for producers and views with the CEO of Curve Media Camilla Lewis and historian Professor Bettany Hughes tells us about founding her production company Sandstone Global and her new TV series Treasures of the World.Producer: Lisa Jenkinson Content Producer: Lucy Wai
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Reporting on the Prince Andrew scandal, 'slow journalism' and how AI is influencing how we consume news
Ros Atkins talks to Paul Salopek the journalist who’s walking around the world in search of stories. We catch up with him in Alaska. We’ll hear about new research on how AI is influencing how we consume news - and what impact that is having on the information we trust - with Luke Tryl, from the think tank More in Common, and Niamh Burns, senior analyst in Tech and Media at Enders Analysis. And how have the media reported the Prince Andrew scandal with royal biographer Robert Hardman, broadcaster Simon McCoy and royal correspondent Emily Andrews. Producer: Lisa Jenkinson Content Producer: Lucy Wai
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Reporting the Gaza ceasefire, Bari Weiss profile, Today in Parliament
Channel 4’s Krishnan Guru-Murthy and The Independent’s Bel Trew join us to discuss their reporting on the Gaza ceasefire. Professor Lee Edwards from the LSE analyses how the media has been framing recent events. Also on the programme, who is the new editor-in-chief of CBS News? Semafor’s Max Tani profiles Bari Weiss. Plus, the BBC’s Susan Hulme reflects on the future of Today in Parliament as it celebrates its 80th anniversary.
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Steve Rosenberg, Zanny Minton Beddoes, new Victoria Beckham documentary and the ethics of secret filming
Katie Razall on some of the week's biggest media stories: BBC Russia Editor, Steve Rosenberg, on winning the Charles Wheeler Award for outstanding contribution to broadcast journalism. Zanny Minton Beddoes, Editor in Chief of the Economist on their new video podcast Insider which launches this week. What are the editorial and ethical issues around secret filming as seen in the recent Panorama documentary Undercover In The Police? And as a new three part Victoria Beckham documentary drops on Netflix we consider the rise of the self produced celebrity documentary. Producer: Lucy Wai Assistant Producer: Elena Angelides
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TV rights and the Boat Race, conspiracy theories in the media ecosystem, Larry Ellison, Newspaper legal challenge to Reform UK
Ros Atkins on some of the biggest media stories this week. As the BBC loses TV rights to the Boat Race – we talk to Siobhan Cassidy Chair of the Boat Race Company and Pete Andrews, Head of Sport at Channel 4 which will now broadcast the annual event. We profile the tech billionaire Larry Ellison – as he steps further into the media world - with Telegraph journalist James Warrington. We'll look at the routes that conspiracy theories take through the media ecosystem with Dr Robert Topinka from Birkbeck University and the broadcaster and author Dr Matthew Sweet. We hear why online content creators teaming up with broadcasters can sometimes be a difficult working relationship with Ben Doyle, co-founder of After Party Studios and Natalie Fahy Editor of the Nottinghamshire Post and its online arm Nottinghamshire Live tells us about their legal challenge to Reform UK after they stopped speaking to their reporters, sending them press releases and inviting them to events. Producer: Lisa Jenkinson Assistant Producer: Lucy Wai
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Reporting on migrant hotels, Jimmy Kimmel's return, The Hack
A new BBC investigation into the government's use of hotels to house migrants has led to the government ordering an urgent review into its findings. Journalist Sue Mitchell explains how she got access to record inside these hotels. As Jimmy Kimmel returns to the screen, Brian Stelter, CNN's chief media analyst, assesses what it means for relations between the US media and the Trump administration. Tara Copp, Pentagon correspondent for the Washington Post, takes us through the Pentagon's new restrictions on reporters. Also on the programme, the executive producer of ITV's new drama The Hack, Patrick Spence, reveals how they made the series and the financial pressures facing the TV industry. Plus, creators Jade Beason, BrandonB and Shabaz Ali discuss the value of making niche content.
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Guto Harri, James O Brien, Isabel Oakeshott on the Unite the Kingdom rally and the Charlie Kirk Shooting, Tim Davie
Katie Razzall speaks to the Director General of the BBC Tim Davie at the Royal Television Society Festival. Ros Atkins discusses the language used by the media to discuss the Unite the Kingdom rally and the shooting of Charlie Kirk with studio guests Guto Harri, James O Brien and Isabel Oakeshott.Producer: Lisa Jenkinson Assistant Producer: Lucy Wai
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