The Most Fascinating Podcast in the World

Pat DiCerbo sits down with Sam Mushaw - President of Dimension Fabricators, Navy Seabee veteran, and a leader who built his career the hard way: through responsibility, consistency, and respect for people.From growing up in Clifton Park to serving in the U.S. Navy - building in some of the toughest conditions in the world - Sam brought that same mindset into business. Starting in a small, struggling shop, he helped scale Dimension Fabricators into a powerhouse, taking on projects worth tens of millions of dollars.This episode dives into: - What the Navy Seabees taught him about leadership under pressure - Building a company from the ground up...literally and figuratively - Taking on massive projects (including $80M+ infrastructure jobs) - Why great leaders don’t yell...they build trust - Creating a culture where people actually want to show up - The small things that drive big loyalty (recognition, respect, accountability) - Why Sam actively fires toxic customers to protect his team - The mindset of always asking: “How can I do better for you?”This isn’t theory. It’s real leadership, built over decades - through long hours, tough decisions, and a commitment to doing things the right way.

Pat DiCerbo sits down with Larry Kittelberger - former top executive, corporate fixer, and one of the rare leaders who has operated at the highest levels of American industry during moments of real crisis.From growing up in small-town Pennsylvania to helping reshape companies like Honeywell and Lucent Technologies, Larry’s career wasn’t planned - it evolved through adaptability, pressure, and a relentless focus on solving problems that most people would run from.This episode dives into: - What it’s like to save a company on the brink of collapse - Leading massive restructurings (including cutting 80,000+ jobs to keep a company alive) - The reality behind corporate leadership—pressure, risk, and responsibility at scale - How technology transformed entire industries—from shipbuilding to computing - The mindset required to lead through uncertainty and chaos - Why “win-win or nothing” is the only way to move people - The truth about AI, leadership, and the future of businessLarry doesn’t speak in theories - he speaks from experience. From working alongside legends like Larry Bossidy and Frank D’Amelio to influencing the evolution of modern computing, this conversation is a masterclass in leadership under fire.

Pat DiCerbo sits down with Robert “Max” Maxfield for a wide-ranging conversation about curiosity, confidence, storytelling, travel, creativity, and learning how to fully show up in life.Max grew up in St. Joseph, Missouri, shaped by a veterinarian father, an interior designer mother, sports, golf, fraternity life, travel, and a lifelong pull toward adventure. From Mexico to Shanghai, from film sets to personal growth seminars, Max has built a life around asking better questions, seeing from different perspectives, and helping people feel more alive in their own story.This episode covers: - Why curiosity can change a life - How asking questions creates real connection - What actors understand about honesty and identity - Lessons from travel, filmmaking, parenting, and personal growth - Why “leaning into life” might be the whole point

Pat DiCerbo sits down with Hugh Rice, who spent nearly five decades with FMI helping shape the modern construction industry.Hugh shares how a kid from rural Alabama—originally planning to be a farmer or Air Force officer—found his way into consulting and never left. What started as “a couple years before a real job” turned into a career advising contractors across the country on strategy, succession, and M&A.Along the way, he helped pioneer how construction companies think about ownership transitions and acquisitions—long before private equity entered the space.This conversation goes beyond construction. It’s about: - Why relationships—not transactions—drive long-term success - The patience it takes to build a reputation that compounds - How entire industries evolve (and where construction is headed next) - What 50+ years in one company teaches you about trust, value, and doing the right thing

In this episode, Pat DiCerbo sits down with Alexandra Phillips for a wide-ranging conversation on purpose, change, and what it really means to do work that matters.Alexandra shares her journey from growing up on the Upper West Side, to Brown University, to a career in the performing arts—and ultimately walking away from it all after becoming a mother to pursue a more aligned path.Today, she leads a change leadership and executive coaching practice, helping leaders and organizations navigate growth, uncertainty, and transformation.This conversation goes deeper than business. It explores: - Why purpose isn’t something you “find”—it’s something you build through action and service - The truth about coaching (and why it’s not about telling people what to do) - How great leaders balance empathy, performance, and clarity The connection between business, science, and something more human

In this episode, Pat DiCerbo sits down with Rob Tortorella for a conversation about resilience, family, friendship, faith, business, and purpose.Rob shares memories of growing up in Camillus, New York in a tight-knit Italian family, the influence of his parents, and the role sports played in shaping his character. He talks about playing lacrosse at Holy Cross, the life-changing car accident that left him with a spinal cord injury just after college graduation, and the long road back to independence.But this is not a story about limitation. It is a story about rebuilding.Rob reflects on learning how to live again, developing confidence after catastrophic injury, building a successful business with his brother and partners, and later dedicating himself to Endless Highway, the nonprofit he founded to help people with mobility challenges access sports, recreation, and a better quality of life.This is a conversation about what really matters: attitude, dignity, loyalty, support, and finding a way forward when life does not go according to plan.

Pat DiCerbo sits down with Frank Famiano - Schenectady native, Olympian, NCAA Division I All-American, and one of the toughest competitors to come out of Section 2 wrestling.Frank opens up about being adopted and raised by his grandfather, getting cut from basketball and pushed into wrestling, and the coaches who shaped his mindset. He talks about making the leap from Division III to Division I, wrestling in front of 50,000 fans in Iowa, and why the best athlete doesn’t always win.This conversation isn’t just about wrestling. It’s about belief, preparation, loyalty, and finishing what you start. Frank shares why talent isn’t enough, why showing up matters more than hype, and how the discipline of wrestling carried into business and life.

Pat DiCerbo sits down with Adrian Comstock, founder and CEO of Comstock Realty Partners, for a fast‑moving conversation covering Adrian’s path from Southern California to Russia in the 1990s, his pivot into real estate, navigating the 2008 financial crisis, and building a development business through challenge and uncertainty. They also explore how strategy, endurance, and mindset shape everything from entrepreneurship to racing cars.The episode wraps with Adrian’s stories from competitive motorsports, including endurance racing at Spa‑Francorchamps, and how he applies the same discipline to business and life.

Gene Bolger is one of those people who doesn’t fit neatly into a single label - and that’s exactly what makes his story compelling.In this episode, Pat DiCerbo reconnects with a longtime friend whose life has unfolded across countries, cultures, and careers. From studying abroad together in Mexico to traveling through Spain decades later, their conversation weaves through childhood memories in New York, faith and family, living abroad, raising children across continents, and choosing curiosity over fear.They explore what it means to really engage with the world - learning languages, trusting strangers, resisting the temptation to live safely on the sidelines, and saying yes to experiences that expand how you see life. Along the way, they reflect on fear, courage, spirituality, travel, parenting, and the habits that quietly shape who we become.This is a thoughtful, wide-ranging conversation about living deliberately, staying open, and becoming more fully yourself - one trip, one risk, one conversation at a time.

Rodney Schultz has lived multiple careers inside one remarkable life - contractor, executive, operator, author, and quiet industry transformer.In this wide-ranging conversation, Rodney reflects on growing up in St. Joseph, Missouri, in a fourth-generation electrical contracting family shaped by grit, discipline, and Depression-era work ethic. He shares how a promising football career ended abruptly with a devastating neck injury, forcing a hard pivot away from sports and toward business.Rodney walks through his unconventional path…from nuclear engineering to business school, from family enterprise to major commercial projects across the country. Along the way, he found himself at the center of some of the construction industry’s biggest shifts, including early lean production adoption, large-scale consolidations, and operational turnarounds that reshaped how contractors think about efficiency.He also dives into the behind-the-scenes realities of leadership: shutting down failing companies, balancing family life with constant travel, seizing opportunities before feeling “ready,” and why mentorship and continuous improvement matter more than titles.

Jeffrey Zorn and Pat DiCerbo go way back...Union College rugby days, decades of friendship, and a whole lot of life lived in between.Jeff opens up about growing up in the Bronx and Long Island, including an early childhood incident rooted in anti-Semitism that helped push his family out of the city. He shares the complicated story of his biological father, being adopted by his stepfather, and the emotional realization (years later) that what he wanted wasn’t paperwork, it was for his dad to fight for him. He also describes the surreal twist of fate: his biological father and stepfather died on the exact same day, forcing him to write two eulogies in the same stretch of grief.From there, the conversation shifts to the lighter (and classic) stories: high school football glory in the middle of a legendary losing streak, getting fired for being too honest, and the chaos and camaraderie of Union rugby.Then it turns serious again - Jeff’s career path into sales and Northwestern Mutual, and how he thinks about success: goals don’t move him; expectations do. He talks candidly about feeling a little uninspired lately, and how mountaineering became his way of proving something to himself, while also creating deep bonding experiences with his kids.Jeff shares his path from local hikes to major climbs like Kilimanjaro, Aconcagua, Denali, and Rainier, the brutal reality of carrying 100+ pounds of gear, and why he refuses to use porters or supplemental oxygen.

Simon Balint is an entrepreneur, world traveler, and builder...of companies, experiences, and second chances for old places.In this conversation, Simon shares how a childhood spent on a rundown farm outside Albany shaped his independence, curiosity, and work ethic. At 17, with $3,000 in his pocket, he deferred college and took a one-way ticket to Europe, backpacking through Scandinavia, Eastern Europe, the collapsing Soviet Union, China, Tibet, Hong Kong, and Japan in a journey that would permanently alter how he views risk, opportunity, and life.Simon recounts bribes paid in five-dollar bills, nights sleeping in construction sites, months riding the Trans-Siberian Railway, and working odd jobs across Asia just to keep moving. He later connects those formative experiences to his career: building a global emergency-response simulation company from scratch, selling complex systems worldwide, and eventually returning home to restore historic buildings in Troy, New York.This episode is about curiosity over comfort, calculated risk over fear, and why staying still can be just as dangerous as moving forward.

Daniel Byrne is a Johns Hopkins professor and one of the earliest pioneers working at the intersection of artificial intelligence and healthcare, with more than 40 years of experience inside the medical system.In this conversation, Daniel shares how his early work helped make surgery safer for older patients long before AI was a buzzword…and why today’s AI moment risks being driven more by hype than results. He explains what most people misunderstand about AI in medicine, why many tools fail at the last mile, and how rigorous testing, similar to how we evaluate new drugs, is the only way AI can truly improve patient outcomes.Daniel breaks down how AI can move healthcare from reactive to proactive: preventing blood clots, postpartum hemorrhage, missed cancers, and other costly medical errors before they happen. He also addresses private equity, administrative bloat, and why evidence, not marketing, will determine which hospitals win in the next decade.The conversation closes with a thoughtful detour into the American Dream, happiness, contribution, and why progress, not possessions, is what actually sustains fulfillment.

John Robinson was born a quadruple congenital amputee, and from the start his life required problem-solving most of us never think about. But this conversation isn’t about limitation...it’s about the way he built a full, grounded, meaningful life in a world not designed for him.John talks about growing up in a small New York town, summers on his grandparents’ dairy farm, and the role his parents and community played in shaping his outlook. He shares what discrimination looked like in the 70s, 80s, and 90s, how he taught himself independence one task at a time, and what it felt like to be turned down for job after job despite being qualified.We cover the break that finally launched his TV career, the persistence behind his sales success, meeting Andrea in Toronto, raising three children, and why he ultimately founded a company focused on employment opportunities for people with disabilities. Toward the end, we talk legacy, identity, and how he hopes to be remembered by the people who knew him best.It’s an honest, thoughtful look at a life shaped by challenge, family, humor, and hard-won perspective...told by someone who has lived every word of it.

Rosannah Harding is a New York City architect who started college at 12, entered architecture school at 14, and never really took her foot off the gas.In this episode, she talks about growing up in a big military family, getting homeschooled, testing into college early, and fighting her way into Auburn’s architecture program and later Cooper Union. She walks through working at Diller Scofidio + Renfro on The Shed at Hudson Yards, what it’s like to take a building from model to jobsite, and why most of architecture is disciplined “drudgery” with flashes of payoff.We also get into seeing in 3D, why drawing is still a weapon in a digital world, what it really takes to ship big projects, and how she balances running her own studio with doing hard, interesting work that actually gets built.

In this episode of The Most Fascinating Podcast in the World, host Pat DiCerbo sits down with Kevin Riley — a powerhouse executive, athlete, hunter, and lifelong learner whose story spans decades of leadership and personal growth. From his early football days in Albany to climbing the corporate ranks at KeyBank and ultimately leading First Interstate Bank in Montana, Kevin shares the grit and mindset that shaped his journey.He opens up about working under his legendary father, recovering from career heartbreak, learning humility through coaching, and living with a “failure is not an option” attitude. Kevin also talks about life after banking — from fixing boats and joining a garden club to lessons learned hunting mountain lions and raising turkeys on his hobby farm. This is a masterclass in leadership, resilience, and redefining success… both in business and at home.

In this deeply moving and inspiring episode, Lenee Koch, Business Development Leader at Hensel Phelps, shares her extraordinary journey through sport, family, loss, and leadership.A Colorado native and the first gymnast at the University of Denver to ever score a perfect 10, Lenee reflects on how the discipline of gymnastics shaped her mindset and career in construction - a field she was drawn to through her father’s entrepreneurial path from immigrant cook to electrical contractor.She opens up about building her own business with her brother, finding her calling at Hensel Phelps, and how collaboration, humility, and integrity drive everything she does. Lenee also shares her family’s most personal chapter: the story of her daughter Kaydee, who battled Ewing’s sarcoma with courage and love, and whose spirit lives on through Project Sol Flower (https://www.projectsolflower.org/), a foundation granting bucket-list dreams to young adults with cancer.Lenee reflects on resilience, gratitude, and how to find light in the hardest moments. Her story reminds us that joy can be found in the smallest things, that grief can coexist with hope, and that perseverance is its own quiet form of heroism.If you’re moved by stories of faith, family, and finding meaning through adversity - this episode will stay with you long after it ends.

Mark Walsh’s path reads like a roadmap of modern media and entrepreneurship: an idyllic childhood outside Baltimore, early TV work in West Virginia, a formative stint at HBO (helping launch Cinemax), founding one of the first database marketing firms for cable operators, taking early e-commerce bets, and later joining AOL during the internet’s explosive growth. He went on to Harvard Business School, launched companies, moved into venture and board work (including the Bipartisan Policy Center and initiatives to expand capital into underrepresented communities), and still makes time for family, reunion planning, and mentoring law & business students.In this conversation with Pat DiCerbo you’ll hear: - How growing up in Ruxton and theatrical parents shaped Mark’s curiosity. - Wild TV stories: anchoring live news with no teleprompter and “making stuff up” on air. - Behind the scenes at HBO in the early cable era - and the mentors who mattered. - What Harvard Business School’s brutal first year taught him (and why the second year was different). - Early database marketing and the birth of online shopping on platforms like AOL and CompuServe. - Personal political memories: Camp David, Bill Clinton, and what “access” really looks like. - Why he invests in early startups now, and his work to get capital into under-funded communities. - Two rules he shares with students: resist fear, and value your time. - The role of friendships, bipartisan work, and how to keep people together in polarized times.

Professor Stephen Berk of Union College sits down with host Pat DiCerbo to trace a life in history… from Bensonhurst childhood memories of FDR’s death to a career spent teaching Russian, Jewish, Holocaust, Middle Eastern, and European history. Berk shares the Madison High School culture that produced Nobel laureates, senators, and a young Bernie Sanders… his path through Penn, Chicago, and Columbia… and why his dissertation on Admiral Kolchak still shapes how he reads Putin and today’s Russia.They tackle tough, current questions with a historian’s perspective: China’s long memory, Russian siege mentality, the line between criticism of Israel and antisemitism, and how incendiary language warps public life. Berk also recounts a viral campus moment after Oct. 7 and why he remains optimistic about America.Highlights: - Brooklyn at its zenith… and a 5-year-old’s memory of FDR’s passing - Madison High School’s “drive”… Schumer, Sanders, Blumberg, Ginsburg - Penn to Chicago to Columbia… and the Kolchak thesis in Siberia - Why Dewey stayed quiet on the broken Japanese code in ’44 - China’s century of humiliation… history towering over the present - Explaining Putin without exonerating him - The Oct. 7 aftermath on campus… lines, labels, and leadership - Why words matter… and why Berk is still bullish on America - Reading as a civic duty… and owning our biases

Billionaire investor and former Milwaukee Bucks co-owner Marc Lasry sits down with host Pat DiCerbo to talk grit, gratitude, and building things that last.Born in Marrakesh, Morocco, Marc immigrated to Hartford, CT at age 7, grew up in a tiny apartment, and earned academic scholarships to Clark University (where he met his wife and played basketball) and New York Law School. An internship with the chief bankruptcy judge led him into distressed investing - first at small firms, then at the Robert Bass Group, and ultimately as cofounder of Avenue Capital.They cover: - Early life: moving from Morocco, sharing a bedroom with two sisters, and focusing on education - Breaking into bankruptcy & special situations; buying claims, bonds, and bank debt, and turning debt into equity - Investing stories (Marvel, Kmart/Caldor/Hill’s, Storage Technology, Smith International) and what really creates edge - Owning the Milwaukee Bucks: buying the NBA’s worst team, recognizing Giannis Antetokounmpo’s rise, and winning the 2021 NBA Championship - Why he’ll never retire, how he defines purpose, and why he sees the glass half full - Advice for young people: take acting and public speaking, learn to write, and practice thinking clearly under pressure - Tennis tales: pros training on his US-Open-surface court and a humbling Roger Federer serve at a charity event - Books he’s reading (Walter Isaacson’s Elon Musk, Robert Caro’s LBJ series, The Power Broker)If you’re curious how optimism, discipline, and good judgment compound - from a modest start to the NBA summit - this one’s a masterclass.

Meet Andrea Robinson - Montreal-born adventurer, nurse, private pilot, and long-distance hiker chasing the Triple Crown (AT, PCT, CDT).Andrea grew up roaming the Adirondacks, joined the Air Cadets as a teen, and never lost the itch to fly. Decades later - while working extra nursing shifts during the pandemic - she used those earnings to finally learn: Private Pilot (2022), tailwheel endorsement, now working on her instrument rating.On the ground she’s just as fearless. After years of section hikes with her kids (including Wright Peak memories and Vermont’s Long Trail), Andrea thru-hiked the Continental Divide Trail in 2022 - 2,543 miles in 139 days - and is now piecing together the Pacific Crest Trail to complete the Triple Crown. She’s biked the Erie Canal with her family in support of people with disabilities, and she brings a joyful, practical take on adventure, motherhood, and making big goals happen mid-career.In this conversation with host Pat DiCerbo, Andrea talks:Growing up free-range in the ’70s, summers in the Adirondacks, and discovering long trailsNursing, grit, and how COVID overtime paid for flight schoolWhat a CDT thru-hike really takes (pace, resupply, mindset)Flying, fear, and why learning new skills at 50 is magicSection-hiking the PCT on the way to the Triple CrownIf you like stories about ordinary people doing extraordinary things—with boots on the trail and wheels off the runway—press play.

In this inspiring conversation, Dr. Nido Qubein shares his remarkable journey from humble beginnings in Jordan to leading one of the most distinctive universities in America. He reflects on losing his father at age six, learning English one word at a time on 3x5 cards, and starting his first business through sheer determination.You’ll hear how he built multiple successful companies, served on bank boards, and ultimately transformed High Point University into a model of values-driven higher education. Nido dives into his philosophy on sales, persuasion, leadership, risk management, and the power of distinction in business and life.Highlights include: - Lessons from a childhood of adversity - and why abundance often comes from struggle. - How he taught himself English, word by word, and later wrote 16 books and delivered 8,500 speeches worldwide. - Starting his first direct mail business with no experience and turning it into a global speaking career. - Insights on leadership, persuasion, and creating value that others can’t easily imitate. - His vision for High Point University as a place of values, life skills, and extraordinary outcomes. - Why focus matters more than intelligence, and how to manage risk like a true entrepreneur.

Join Pat DiCerbo for an inspiring conversation with Paul Glynn Sr., a senior executive at Stryker and former standout Iowa wrestler. Paul shares his journey from growing up in a huge Irish Catholic family in Iowa, to wrestling under legendary coach Dan Gable, and how the lessons from wrestling were foundational in forging a successful career in the medical device industry.Paul reveals how early lessons in discipline, resilience, and leadership shaped both his athletic and professional paths. Hear about the pivotal moments of his wrestling career, including his intense wrestle-off with Brad Penrith, and how the values of wrestling translate seamlessly into high-stakes sales and leadership.Highlights include:• Growing up in a family of 10 kids in Iowa• Discovering wrestling and falling in love with the sport• Training under Dan Gable at the University of Iowa• The legendary wrestle-off and lessons in sportsmanship• Building a career at Stryker in medical device sales• The parallels between wrestling and business success• Insights on leadership, personal brand, and always being earlyThis episode is packed with insights for athletes, business professionals, and anyone striving for excellence. Don’t miss Paul’s philosophy on hard work, preparation, and “making the good old days tomorrow.”

In this episode of The Most Fascinating Podcast in the World, Pat DiCerbo sits down with Rick Bennett — a hockey lifer who went from backyard rinks in Springfield, Massachusetts, to the NHL, and later built a coaching legacy that culminated in a historic national championship at Union College.Rick shares stories from his childhood, the decision that took him to prep school, and his unexpected leap to Providence College. He talks about the grind of professional hockey, becoming a player-assistant coach in Jacksonville, and the subtle shift that sparked his coaching career.From leading Union to the Frozen Four to the behind-the-scenes wisdom that built trust and championship chemistry, Rick’s story is about grit, honesty, and staying grounded — even at the top of your game.If you’ve ever wondered how a team with no scholarships can take down powerhouses — or how character and loyalty shape a career — this one’s for you.

In this episode of The Most Fascinating Podcast in the World, host Pat DiCerbo chats with Andy Barth—a man whose life spans from humble beginnings in Queens, NY, to wrestling at Columbia, to a remarkable 32-year career in finance with the Capital Group, and ultimately to deep involvement in philanthropy and the sport he loves: wrestling.Andy shares stories of: - Growing up in Queens and moving to Manhattan for his sister’s ballet career - Attending Stuyvesant High School and navigating rigorous academics - Walking on to the Columbia University wrestling team and becoming team captain - Wrestling’s lifelong influence on his mindset and approach to life - His pivot from law school ambitions to the world of finance - Joining the Capital Group and building a diverse career in investment management - Leadership lessons from decades in finance and managing brilliant but independent minds - Deep philanthropic commitments—from the American Ballet Theatre to Beat the Streets LA to leading the U.S. freestyle wrestling team into the next Olympic cycle - Reflections on legacy, humility, and giving back to the communities that shaped himIf you’re interested in wrestling, business, philanthropy, or how one person can weave all those worlds together, you’ll love Andy’s thoughtful and witty storytelling.

On this episode of The Most Fascinating Podcast in the World, host Pat DiCerbo sits down with entrepreneur, inventor, and investor Sean O’Sullivan.Sean shares his extraordinary journey from humble beginnings in Schoharie, NY, to co-founding MapInfo, the company that pioneered digital mapping long before Google Maps existed. He talks about his early love of technology, his time at RPI and IBM, and how his drive to create meaningful innovations shaped his path as a tech entrepreneur and venture capitalist.Sean discusses: - Growing up in a family of 10 on welfare in upstate New York - His journey through RPI and co-op jobs at IBM and beyond - Founding MapInfo and revolutionizing digital mapping - Competing with giants like Google in the mapping space - The challenges and realities of venture capital today - Inventing cloud computing concepts in the dot-com era - His philosophy on leadership, scaling businesses, and “nailing it before scaling it” - Building community, mentorship, and his “second mountain” purposeWhether you’re an aspiring entrepreneur, a seasoned business leader, or just fascinated by how innovation changes the world, you’ll love Sean’s insights, humor, and honest reflections on what it takes to build great things...and help others do the same.

In this episode of The Most Fascinating Podcast in the World, host Pat DiCerbo sits down with John Stoffel—CPA, CPC, former college wrestler, world handball champion, and one of the nation's top experts in employee stock ownership plans (ESOPs).John shares an unforgettable journey filled with resilience, grit, and purpose: - Losing his father at six and how that shaped his independence - A near-fatal lawn mower accident at age four that left a lifelong impact - Quitting smoking after 5th grade and walking away from a tough crowd - Wrestling his way onto a Division II college team as a walk-on - Finding love through card games and hot tub parties - Coaching and winning world championships in handball - Mentoring student-athletes as they develop life skills through sport - Becoming a national leader in the ESOP space, helping business owners transition and employees become owners - His reflections on giving, contribution, and the long road to making life better for othersThis one’s a deep dive into perseverance, purpose, and how life’s toughest moments can shape our greatest strengths.

In this episode, Pat DiCerbo has an insightful conversation with Matt Futterman, an accomplished sports journalist and author, as they dive into his career journey and the evolving world of sports media. Matt shares his early experiences in journalism and discusses his transition to telling personal athlete stories that connect with audiences on a deeper level. They explore his work covering the Olympics and global sports events, the role of social media in today’s sports coverage, and how storytelling plays a crucial part in fan engagement.Matt offers a behind-the-scenes look at sports journalism, the power of empathy in reporting, and the changing landscape of the industry. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in sports media, the art of storytelling, and the personal side of sports reporting.

In this episode, Pat DiCerbo sits down with Amit Elor, one of the winningest wrestlers in American history. From her beginnings as a shy four-year-old stepping onto the mat to becoming a world champion and Olympic gold medalist, Amit shares her remarkable journey. They discuss her early years wrestling alongside boys, the evolution of women’s wrestling, her rigorous training regimen, her dream of competing in the 2028 LA Olympics, and the importance of enjoying the process. This conversation is not just about wrestling but about resilience, passion, and achieving greatness.

Pat DiCerbo sits down with Frank Ryan, Co-CEO and Co-Chair of DLA Piper, one of the largest law firms in the world. Frank shares his journey from a restless kid in Phoenix to a standout wrestler at Syracuse and ultimately a leader in the legal profession. They discuss lessons from wrestling, leadership, resilience, and the importance of surrounding yourself with great people. Frank also shares insights on navigating the complexities of law, the global business landscape, and what it takes to lead a $4 billion organization. A fascinating conversation on toughness, growth, and the mindset of success.

Dan Gable, legendary wrestler, coach, and motivator, joins Pat DeCerbo for an in-depth conversation on his journey from childhood in Iowa to becoming one of the most influential figures in wrestling history. Gable shares powerful stories about resilience, family, and leadership, including lessons from his early years, his historic career at Iowa State, and the heartbreak that shaped his drive. He also discusses the mindset behind winning, dealing with loss, coaching philosophies, and the lasting impact of wrestling. Don’t miss this inspiring conversation with an American icon.

In this episode, Pat DiCerbo sits down with Tim Gerend, the President, CEO, and Chairman of the Board of Northwestern Mutual, for an in-depth conversation about leadership, personal development, and the values that have shaped his career.Tim shares his earliest memories, growing up in a small town, watching his father transition from the military to corporate America and eventually into entrepreneurship. He discusses how his father’s optimism, work ethic, and ability to navigate transitions influenced his own approach to leadership.Tim’s educational journey took him from Butler University, where he earned a full academic scholarship and played on the golf team, to Notre Dame Law School, where he developed critical thinking, persuasive communication, and a passion for leadership. He recounts his early days as a commercial litigator in Chicago, working intense hours at a top law firm, before transitioning to Northwestern Mutual.As CEO, Tim reflects on the company’s unmatched financial strength, its mutuality-driven business model, and the importance of trust, relationships, and leadership in a fast-changing world. He emphasizes lifelong learning, decision-making in high-stakes environments, and the role of collaboration in sustaining Northwestern Mutual’s success.The conversation closes with reflections on legacy, the importance of resilience over raw talent, and the leadership lessons that have defined Tim’s career. Pat and Tim discuss the power of cooperation, adaptability, and building a meaningful career that aligns with one’s values.

In this episode, Pat DiCerbo interviews Bryan Van Kley, owner of WIN Magazine—a leading publication in the world of wrestling. Bryan shares his journey from a small town in Iowa, where he grew up immersed in the agricultural business, to becoming a college athlete and ultimately finding his passion in sports journalism. He reflects on the formative influence of his family, his faith, and his small-town upbringing, which emphasized community, hard work, and treating others with respect.Bryan recounts playing four sports in his freshman year of college and how those experiences taught him time management and resilience. He discusses how his passion for wrestling grew after attending his first NCAA Wrestling Championship, which later led him to work with Mike Chapman on WIN Magazine and the National Wrestling Hall of Fame. At the young age of 22, Bryan took a leap of faith, buying the Magazine and dedicating himself to its growth over the past 26 years.He also touches on his involvement in Ag-Grow Plus Lawn Care, a nod to his agricultural roots, and the lessons he learned from his family’s business. The episode concludes with a reflective discussion on the values of hard work, passion, and the importance of mentoring others.

In this engaging episode of The Most Fascinating Podcast in the World, host Pat DiCerbo interviews Brett Bissell, an accomplished executive with a truly international career and life story. Brett shares his journey from being born in the U.S. and moving to Africa with his missionary parents, to attending Union College, and later earning two advanced degrees from MIT. His career spans continents, with roles in Japan, Brazil, and beyond, where he tackled challenges, learned multiple languages, and helped improve operations at companies like Toshiba, Qualcomm, and CEVA Logistics.Brett discusses the importance of saying yes to challenges, adapting to new environments, and mentoring others. He shares reflections on building strong relationships, appreciating opportunities, and creating a mindset of growth and improvement. The episode is a mix of inspiring life lessons, humorous anecdotes (like being married five times to the same woman), and insights into the world of global business operations. Brett emphasizes the value of leaving things better than he found them and maintaining an optimistic outlook in both life and work.

In this heartfelt episode of The Most Fascinating Podcast in the World, host Pat DeCerbo sits down with Ohio State University wrestling coach Tom Ryan. They dive into Tom's storied journey from high school wrestling phenom to renowned college coach, touching on pivotal memories, the power of resilience, and the life-changing impact of mentorship. Tom shares touching family stories, including the profound impact of his late son, Teague, on his life and faith. The conversation highlights Tom’s mental and physical battles, including a recent car accident and the strength he's found through his faith, family, and the sport he loves. This episode provides a rare glimpse into Tom’s unwavering dedication, grit, and the values that define his life's "hyphen"—the legacy he hopes to leave behind.

In this episode, Pat chats with Kamilah Williams-Kemp, a 25-year veteran at Northwestern Mutual, to discuss her unique journey from growing up in Milwaukee to becoming one of the company’s senior leaders. Kamilah shares her early love for dance, lessons learned from her family, and how her personal experiences shaped her professional career. She reflects on navigating corporate life as a Black woman, the challenges of leadership, and how her desire to help others secure financial futures is rooted in her family’s history. Kamilah opens up about balancing work and motherhood, the importance of focusing on inputs rather than outcomes, and the power of human-centered leadership. This thoughtful conversation touches on resilience, race, leadership, and the importance of staying focused on what you can control.

In this episode of The Most Fascinating Podcast in the World, Pat DiCerbo speaks with David Hilton Jr., a retired Northwestern Mutual agent ranked as the seventh most productive in the company’s history. David reflects on his career, from early struggles with rejection in the insurance business to becoming a top producer and now a coach for life insurance agents and business owners.David shares how growing up in a competitive environment and learning resilience through running helped shape his career. Despite initial setbacks in the job market, he embraced the insurance industry, guided by his father’s influence and the one-card system developed by Al Granum. By his third year at Northwestern, David led the nation among his peers, demonstrating the power of focus, discipline, and systems.Now retired, David focuses on coaching younger professionals aiming for excellence and older individuals navigating retirement. He emphasizes holistic success, balancing career achievements with health, relationships, and personal growth. An accomplished duathlete, David integrates his passion for fitness into his life philosophy, illustrating how discipline in one area can benefit others.Pat and David delve into topics like aging gracefully, redefining goals, and the importance of finding purpose in later life stages. David also discusses the transition from product-focused conversations to coaching that fosters accountability and personal transformation. Throughout, David’s story exemplifies resilience, adaptability, and a lifelong commitment to self-improvement and helping others.

In this episode of The Most Fascinating Podcast in the World, Pat DiCerbo connects with John Haller, a lifelong friend and global leader at Convatec. From their shared roots in Galway, New York, to John’s journey to becoming a transformative leader, the conversation explores resilience, leadership, and purpose.John reflects on moving from Manhattan to Galway, his formative years in sports, and the humility he gained through wrestling. These lessons shaped his decision to attend West Point, where he developed a never-quit mindset and authentic leadership style through rigorous training and challenging experiences like jungle and Northern Warfare Schools.After serving in the Army, including a deployment during the Noriega crisis, John transitioned to a corporate career, eventually overseeing global operations at Stryker. He shares how fostering collaboration and respecting cultural differences enabled him to build high-performing teams. A pivotal decision not to pursue a higher role led him to explore new paths, culminating in his current position at Convatec.The episode highlights John’s dedication to relationships, personal growth, and leaving a legacy. He discusses meeting his wife, Claudia, raising their three children, and his reflections on living a life that inspires others. Pat and John emphasize the importance of service, resilience, and meaningful connections, offering timeless insights into leadership and purpose.

In this episode of "The Most Fascinating Podcast in the World," host Pat DiCerbo sits down with Wilford Clyde, Chairman of Clyde Companies. Wilford shares his journey of growing up around the family business, his decision to pursue accounting before a heartfelt conversation with his father led him back to the construction industry. He reflects on taking over the business at 30 and leading it through massive growth, from $250 million to over $2 billion. They discuss the challenges and rewards of leading a multi-generational family business, the future of construction, and the importance of strong values and relationships. Wilford also talks about his love for family, his passion for community service, and his thoughts on the future of America's infrastructure.

In this episode, Pat DiCerbo sits down with Allen Swerdlowe, an award-winning architect, urban designer, and Fulbright specialist. Allen shares his fascinating journey from his early days in the Bronx to his impactful work on high-profile projects like the reconstruction of the World Trade Center and the development of Brooklyn Bridge Park. He discusses his unique path through architecture, journalism, and fine arts, revealing how his diverse experiences shaped his approach to urban design and sustainability. Allen also reflects on his international work in Uzbekistan and India, where he advised on urban planning and inspired young architects. The conversation covers the intersections of design, culture, and social impact, offering a wealth of insights for listeners passionate about architecture, urban development, and making a difference in the world.

Mike Vorgang is one of the winningest Lacrosse coaches in America. His no-nonsense approach to coaching and life has raised him and those he coaches to the highest levels in high school sports year after year. He continues to excel and emphasizes hard work, simplicity, loyalty, and doing the right things right time after time for predictable results and ongoing success. Mike has coached dozens if not hundreds of athletes who went on to play Division 1 Lacrosse. He is a father, a family man, a leader, and a legendary coach. A man for all seasons.

Terry Martin, a vice president and project manager at Stacey and Whitbeck, shares his journey from growing up in Los Altos, California to becoming a bricklayer and eventually pursuing higher education. He talks about his athletic background, his time at Harvard, and his decision to leave and start his own masonry business. Terry then discusses his decision to go back to school, his experience at Stanford, and the challenges he faced along the way. He emphasizes the importance of perseverance and not giving up in the face of adversity. Terry discusses his career in construction and his decision to pursue big construction projects. He shares his experience working on the Yucca Mountain Tunnel and his decision to join Granite Construction. Terry emphasizes the importance of collaboration and cooperation in the construction industry. He also opens up about his journey to sobriety and the tragic loss of his daughter. Terry reflects on his life and the importance of pushing boundaries and being vulnerable.

Mary Teichert, President of Teichert Inc., discusses her journey in the family business, the company's commitment to community support, and initiatives to bring more women into the construction industry. She shares insights on her early memories, career progression, and the importance of family involvement in the business. Mary also highlights her efforts to encourage young women to consider careers in construction. Mary Teichert discusses her approach to engaging the next generation, the impact of AI on the construction industry, and her personal and professional journey. She also shares insights on gender diversity and the importance of creating a positive work culture.

Join us for a journey with Angelo Vivolo, a Manhattan native who shares his tales from growing up in the heart of New York City. From the cozy memories of his grandfather's restaurant to rubbing shoulders with baseball legend Joe DiMaggio, Angelo's story is a tapestry of nostalgia and inspiration.Discover Angelo's unique path from educator to restaurateur as he delves into the heartwarming anecdotes of his encounters with Joe DiMaggio, highlighting the icon's unparalleled generosity and grace. Angelo shares delightful tales of hosting celebrities like Rod Stewart and Ginger Rogers at his restaurant, offering glimpses into the star-studded world of New York's dining scene.But Angelo's story goes beyond celebrity encounters. He opens up about his commitment to higher education, advocating for change within the system through his involvement with CUNY. With unwavering passion, Angelo champions the preservation of Italian-American culture and challenges misconceptions surrounding figures like Christopher Columbus.Through heartfelt anecdotes and profound insights, Angelo Vivolo paints a vivid picture of living a life of truth and integrity, leaving a legacy of love and respect for his family and community. Join us as we explore Angelo's life, filled with tales of friendship, resilience, and the enduring spirit of New York City.

Jason Nolf, a nationally and internationally known wrestler, shares his journey from childhood to becoming a 3-time NCAA champion, Olympic alternate, and co-founding an instructional video company. He discusses his faith, college wrestling career, and future plans.

Join Brad Oneglia, an executive at ONG Industries, as he shares his journey in the multi-generational family business and his profound passion for construction. From cherished childhood memories spent on job sites with his father and grandfather to the exhilarating challenges of climbing El Capitan in Yosemite National Park, Brad's narrative is a testament to adventure and commitment.Discover the dynamic interplay of responsibility and reward inherent in being part of a family business, where every decision carries weight and every success is deeply gratifying. Brad offers insights into the future of O&G Industries, a revered construction materials company, navigating through industry challenges like workforce issues and regulatory changes while embracing opportunities for innovation.Moreover, Brad reflects on the importance of maintaining purpose and staying active even after retirement, drawing inspiration from the enduring legacy of his grandfather and two brothers, who remained engaged in their business well into their 80s. Join us as we delve into Brad Oneglia's extraordinary journey, where passion meets perseverance, and every challenge is an opportunity for growth and adventure.

Join us for a captivating conversation with Gary Raba, a civil engineer whose journey embodies the power of passion and perseverance.Gary reflects on his childhood in San Antonio, where early exposure to engineering sparked his curiosity. Despite initial reluctance, he found his calling in civil engineering, emphasizing the crucial role of effective communication in the field.Discover the growth strategy of Gary's firm, Raba Kistner, as he shares insights into their acquisitions and expansion plans. From small-scale acquisitions to ambitious targets, Gary illustrates the importance of both organic and inorganic growth for their success.Explore Gary's commitment to promoting the value of engineering and his future plans, including leadership roles in organizations like ACEC and eventual retirement.This episode is a testament to the influence of family, the importance of seizing opportunities, and the enduring impact of a career driven by passion.

Join us for an inspiring conversation with Joe Scarlett, former CEO of Tractor Supply Company, as he shares his remarkable journey, invaluable insights, and unwavering commitment to leadership excellence.Joe takes us on an exploration of his childhood memories and career trajectory, underscoring the pivotal role of surrounding oneself with the right people and empowering them to lead. Through anecdotes and wisdom gained from decades in business, Joe illuminates the essence of strong leadership, employee development, and community engagement.Delve into the heart of Joe's management philosophy, where selection, team building, and transparency reign supreme. Learn how fostering a culture of listening, recognition, and storytelling can transform businesses and create a thriving environment where everyone feels valued and empowered.Discover Joe's unwavering belief in doing the right thing, both personally and professionally.This episode is a testament to the enduring impact of leadership, the importance of giving back, and the boundless opportunities for growth and learning, even after retirement.

Join us as we have a conversation with Frank Popolizio, a wrestling icon whose story resonates with grit, determination, and the power of sport. Frank's life is a testament to the transformative impact of dedication and resilience.In this riveting conversation, Frank delves into the heart of wrestling, discussing its profound influence on individuals and the timeless lessons it imparts. From the importance of hard work and perseverance to the invaluable mentorship of influential coaches like Joe Bena and John Smith, Frank shares insights that transcend the mat.Discover the founding principles of Frank's renowned wrestling club, Journeyman Wrestling, where dedication, hard work, and character are nurtured in young athletes. Learn how wrestling can unlock one's worthiness and potential, shaping not just athletes, but individuals ready to conquer life's challenges.Frank's journey is a testament to longevity and greatness, where every small decision contributes to monumental success. Through building relationships and upholding integrity, Frank has carved a legacy that extends far beyond the wrestling arena.Join us as we celebrate the vibrant tapestry of international wrestling, where cultures converge and connections are forged. Through it all, Frank remains steadfast in his commitment to honoring the legends who paved the way, ensuring their legacy lives on in the annals of wrestling history.

Join us for a captivating journey with Jon Krahulik, an investment banker whose story will inspire you to embrace change and take action. From his roots in Warwick, New York, to his ventures in law and beyond, Jon shares the twists and turns that led him to where he is today.Discover how Jon's early love for athletics and adventure shaped his path, propelling him from Syracuse University to Albany Law School and eventually to Northwestern University for an MBA. Learn how he navigated the transition from law to investment banking, driven by a thirst for new experiences and opportunities.In this enlightening conversation, we explore themes of confidence, resilience, and the power of making bold decisions. Hear Jon's insights on embracing change, navigating different cultures, and the evolving landscape of investment banking.But it doesn't stop there. Join us as Jon discusses his departure from big firms, his passion for flying, and his innovative solutions for affordable housing. From long-form conversations to fostering deeper connections, Jon's journey is a testament to lifelong learning and growth.Tune in as we delve into the life of a humble yet striving individual whose story will leave you inspired to chart your own path with courage and conviction