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The MSP Zone
by Charles Weaver
Weekly discussion of news, events, and topics of interest to the global managed services professional community. The series will have the latest and most relevant discussions in managed services and cloud computing, featuring special guests and notable figures in the profession.
Episodes
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MSPs Don’t Have a Sales Problem - They Have a Profitability Problem
Most MSPs do not have a sales problem - they have a profitability problem. Charles Weaver lays out why growing top-line revenue can quietly destroy margin, and what to do before your business scales itself into a cliff. He breaks down the hidden cost of accepting more responsibility without...
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Why MSPs Are the Best Answer to the CISO Gap
MSPs are no longer just managing technology. They are well positioned to close the CISO gap for small and mid-sized businesses. The underlying problem is not a lack of tools, but a lack of security leadership. MSPs already have the trust, visibility, and operational context needed to help clients...
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If AI Is So Dangerous, Why Are CEOs Still Selling It?
AI leaders are warning about catastrophic risks while racing to sell, license, and monetize the very systems they say could be dangerous. What is really going on: genuine alarm, strategic posturing, or an attempt to shape regulation before competitors do? Charles Weaver examines that…
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Why AI and Debt Are Reshaping the MSP Market
The MSP market is entering one of its most disruptive periods in years. Private equity debt is coming due, AI is changing the economics of service delivery, and a new class of technology companies is challenging assumptions about how MSP platforms are built and funded. In this episode of MSP…
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On the Road with MSPs
MSPs are crossing a threshold, and the winners will be the ones who move beyond tool sales and technical support into AI advisory, compliance, and business process consulting. Charles Weaver returns from a week on the road with blunt, firsthand takeaways from MSPWorld Connect in Chicago and the...
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Why MSPs Keep Missing Google Workspace Revenue
Most MSPs are overlooking a bigger Google Workspace opportunity than they realize. Charles Weaver and Dan Taylor of Apps EDU break down why Google is not a niche side platform, but a real managed services market hiding in plain sight for schools, nonprofits, startups, professional services firms,...
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Why You Fired Your MSP for the Wrong Reasons
Before you fire your MSP, make sure you are solving the right problem. In this episode of MSP Zone, Charles Weaver examines why businesses often replace their managed service provider only to face the same frustrations months later. The issue is not always poor service. Sometimes the real gap is...
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How MSP Maturity Has Moved Beyond Revenue
Unlock the secrets to MSP success in 2026 with insights from industry veterans Rob Scott and Andy Runyan. Discover why maturity, beyond size or revenue, is your ultimate competitive edge in an evolving cyber threat landscape. This episode examines how MSPs are transforming into risk management...
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Why MSPs are Losing Money Despite Record Sales
Most MSPs do not have a sales problem. They have a profitability problem. In this episode of MSP Zone, we look at why so many managed service providers are generating record revenue while keeping less of it. Growth has been the dominant conversation in the MSP profession for years: more monthly...
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Why the Suspension of CMMC Phase Two Might Be a Game-Changer for Small MSPs
Most MSPs are asking: Is the future of cybersecurity compliance fundamentally changing — or just on pause? This episode uncovers what the recent suspension of Cybersecurity Maturity Model Certification (CMMC) Phase 2 really means for defense contractors, MSPs, and the broader industry.Charles...
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Cisco, MSPs, and the Future of Proactive IT
Most MSPs are still caught in a reactive cycle, responding to problems instead of turning technology into measurable business outcomes. In this episode, Cisco channel leaders Jason Gallo and Brad Feldman explain why that model is changing, and how MSPs can position themselves for the next era of...
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Your Clients Reflect Your MSP Practice
Your MSP mirror is not lying — it’s showing you where your future is hiding. Are your clients pulling you toward maturity, or dragging you into reactive chaos?If your MSP practice feels like it’s always running uphill, right now might be the moment you need to ask: What does my customer base say...
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Can you 'GRC' your way to MSP Maturity?
What if the biggest barrier to your MSP’s growth isn’t your technology, but your mindset? Charles Weaver and Chris Viau expose the dangerous myths around compliance, GRC tools, and operational maturity that could be sabotaging your success, and share the bold truth: You don’t need complex tools…
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Why is my MSP Cyber Insurance so High?
Navigating the complexities of cyber insurance can be daunting for MSPs—rising premiums, intricate applications, and a gap between underwriter expectations and MSP capabilities. This episode offers a transformative approach to mastering your insurance strategy, ensuring you’re not just covered…
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How a Caribbean MSP Is Leading the Global Shift in Cybersecurity
Most MSPs are on the front lines of a major shift in cybersecurity and AI, with an increasingly important role to play as the industry evolves. In this episode, Guy Phoenix, Managing Director of Fresh Mango Technologies, shares a clear view of what it takes for MSPs to stay ahead in a rapidly...
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Aligning MSP Service Catalogs with Service Agreements
Most MSPs are unknowingly risking their business with outdated contracts and misaligned service descriptions. What if you could transform chaos into clarity; turn your service catalog into a legal powerhouse that defends, scales, and sells your business effortlessly? In this episode of the MSP...
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The Role of Penetration Testing in MSP Cybersecurity
Unlock the truth about penetration testing — it’s not just a box to check but a vital armor for MSPs fighting unseen threats every day. Are you truly protected, or are your assumptions leaving gaps in your security fortress? This episode dives deep into the misunderstood world of pen testing,...
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MSP Profitability - Who Cares?
Profitability in MSPs is not the ultimate badge of success — yet it’s widely treated as the holy grail. Why? Because behind the obsession with margins and EBITDA, we’re ignoring the real foundation of resilient, scalable managed services: operational maturity.Charlie Weaver blows the lid off the...
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Examining US National AI Strategy
Most people overlook how urgent, and critical, this moment is for the future of AI in America. A new, sweeping federal policy is forging a singular AI framework, and your MSP is about to be at the very heart of it. If you’re running a managed services business or depend on one, you cannot afford…
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The MSP/AI Paradox
Most MSPs are chasing AI, but the real game-changer isn't just the tool — it's who you are as a provider. Are you reactive, firefighting, inconsistent? Or proactive, scalable, and prepared to harness AI’s true power?In this bold episode, Charlie Weaver exposes the paradox that’s holding many MSPs...
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An Interview with Steve Shattuck of GoTo
Unlock the truth behind the comeback of LogMeIn and what it really means for MSPs in 2026! Is your current tech stack ready for the game-changing next chapter? This episode explodes the myths, reveals insider strategies, and shows you how the industry’s most powerful brands are reshaping the…
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Cyber Attacks or Cyber Negligence: What is Inevitable vs what is Preventable
Most cyber incidents are not the result of sophisticated attacks; they are often failures of basic cyber hygiene. But why do so many organizations continue to overlook the fundamentals? In this heart-pounding episode, Charlie Weaver and cybersecurity expert Corey Munson unravel the myth of...
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AI and the Future of Work: How MSPs Will Lead the Change
This isn’t the AI episode you’ve heard before — it’s a wake-up call for MSPs and business leaders who refuse to stay stuck in the old playbook.AI isn’t here to destroy jobs — it’s here to redefine what work actually means. If you think automation equals displacement, think again. The real...
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Why Hiring a Salesperson Won’t Unlock MSP Growth
Most MSPs are chasing a myth: that hiring a salesperson will magically unlock their growth. But what if the real key isn’t new hires — it’s your messaging, fundamentals, and strategic mindset? You don’t need more salespeople—you need to understand where true growth really comes from.For decades,...
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Why Your MSP Isn’t Profitable: The Hidden Cost of a Bloated Tech Stack
Most MSPs are unknowingly sabotaging their profitability by stacking tools instead of designing services. If your margins are thin despite a busy team, the hidden culprit may be your bloated tech stack—and it's costing you thousands in leakages every month.In this eye-opening episode, Charles...
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MSPs and the vCISO Challenge: Defining Boundaries
Most MSPs have been silently playing in the security space for decades—so why are clients now demanding they act as CISO? In this eye-opening episode, Neil Holm and Travis Springer unravel the evolving role of managed service providers entering the C-suite. They reveal how MSPs have long been...
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Preparing for AI Regulation
In this episode of MSP Zone, Charles Weaver and Rob Scott delve into the complexities of AI regulation and its implications for managed service providers in 2026. They discuss the role of MSPs in navigating these changes, the potential impact on national security and economic competitiveness, and...
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You Can’t Sell What You Can’t Describe
In this episode, Charles delves into the critical importance of having a clear and compelling message for managed service providers (MSPs). He emphasizes that without a well-defined message, even the best sales tactics can fall short. Charles shares practical steps for MSPs to develop a strong...
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Is the MSP M&A Market Cooling in 2026?
In this insightful episode, Charles and Adam Borst explore the current state of the Managed Service Provider (MSP) mergers and acquisitions (M&A) market as we approach 2026. They delve into the dynamics of private equity involvement, the importance of timing, and the strategic considerations for...
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Reducing Complexity: The Key to MSP Profitability
Join us for an insightful conversation with Michael George, CEO of Syncro, as we explore the evolving landscape of managed service providers (MSPs). Discover how innovation is reshaping the industry, the role of AI in modern MSPs, and the challenges and opportunities that lie ahead. Michael…
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Is the MSP Business Model Obsolete?
Join Charles and Dan Candee, CEO of Cork, as they explore the evolving landscape of Managed Service Providers (MSPs) in today's fast-paced IT world. In this episode, they discuss the shift from traditional IT services to a focus on business resilience and financial outcomes. Discover how MSPs can...
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Cybersecurity Awareness: Beyond the Basics
Join us in this insightful episode as we delve into the world of MSP security and compliance. Chris Viau and Charles from MSP Alliance guide us through a year-long journey of mastering cybersecurity awareness, focusing on both technical and non-technical training. Discover practical examples and...
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Is It Too Late to Start an MSP?
In this episode, we explore the evolving landscape of Managed Service Providers (MSPs) and the modern-day expectations they face. Join us as we discuss the journey from being a trusted advisor to becoming a key player in the corporate executive suite. We delve into the challenges and…
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"Cybersecurity's Enron Moment: Are We Prepared?"
In this episode, we delve into the parallels between the infamous Enron scandal and today's cybersecurity landscape. Join us as we explore whether the cybersecurity industry is on the brink of its own "Enron moment" and what this means for Managed Service Providers (MSPs). We discuss the critical...
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The Ethics of MSP Agreements: Insights from an MSP Owner
Join Charles Weaver as he sits down with Neil Holme, CEO and founder of Impact Business Technology, to explore the intricacies of managed service provider (MSP) contracts. In this episode, they discuss the ethical considerations and challenges surrounding MSP agreements, including the impact of...
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Identity as the New Perimeter: A Conversation with Dor Eisner
In this episode of MSP Zone, Charles Weaver sits down with Dor Eisner, CEO and co-founder of Guardz, to explore the evolving landscape of cybersecurity. They delve into the critical role of identity access management as the new frontier for cyber threats, the challenges faced by MSPs in adapting…
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Life on the MSP Road - Feedback from Inspire and MSP Summit
Join Charles Weaver as he delves into the evolving landscape of Managed Service Providers (MSPs). In this episode, Charles discusses the pressing need for MSPs to mature and adapt, highlighting the challenges of low profit margins and the importance of certification. He shares insights from…
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Competing against Low Priced MSPs
In this episode, Charles Weaver delves into the age-old dilemma of competing against Managed Service Providers (MSPs) that drive down pricing. He explores the challenges of negotiating with prospects who are tempted by cheaper alternatives and offers practical advice on how to maintain your value...
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Do We Have a Profitability Problem in the Managed Services Profession?
In this insightful episode, Charles Weaver explores why profitability is crucial for Managed Service Providers (MSPs) and Managed Security Service Providers (MSSPs). Delve into the financial metrics that define success in the industry and learn how maintaining healthy profit margins ensures...
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Safe Harbor Laws a Game Changer for Managed Services Profession
In this episode, we delve into the critical topics of managed services immunity and safe harbor laws for Managed Service Providers (MSPs). Discover how these legal frameworks protect MSPs from certain liabilities, ensuring a safer operational environment. Join us as we explore real-world examples...
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The Hidden Size of the Managed Services Market
This conversation delves into the size and growth of the managed services market, highlighting the disparity between the number of service providers and the actual maturity and capability of these providers. Charles Weaver discusses the financial metrics of the managed services industry, the...
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Avoiding Litigation for Managed Service Providers
In this episode, we delve into the critical strategies Managed Service Providers (MSPs) can employ to avoid litigation. Charles Weaver shares insights on the common pitfalls that lead to legal disputes and offers practical advice on implementing best practices, securing robust contracts, and...
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The Rise of the Cyber VAR
Join Charles Weaver as he delves into the emerging world of cyber VARs and their transformative impact on managed services. Discover how these value-added resellers are reshaping the IT landscape, challenging traditional models, and offering new opportunities for MSPs. Whether you're an industry...
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Stop Reacting, Start Growing
This episode focuses on the importance of shifting away from reactive IT and growing proactive IT services. Charles Weaver emphasizes that striving for perfection in managed services not only enhances profitability but also leads to greater customer satisfaction and team happiness. He contrasts…
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MSP Benchmarking vs. Peer Groups
In this podcast, Charles Weaver and Kyle Murphy discuss the critical differences between MSP benchmarking and peer groups, emphasizing their unique roles in the growth and success of managed service providers. They explore the importance of peer groups for MSPs at all stages, the value of...
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Why Compliant MSPs Win Big in M&A Deals
In this episode, we delve into the critical importance of compliance in the Managed Service Provider (MSP) world, especially during mergers and acquisitions (M&A). We explore why proof of compliance is essential and how, without concrete evidence, any claims of compliance are rendered invalid....
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MSP Succession Planning Strategies
In this insightful podcast episode, Charles Weaver delves into the evolving landscape for Managed Service Providers (MSPs) with a focus on succession planning and exit strategies. The conversation covers a range of topics crucial for MSP owners, including the diverse options available for exiting...
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Securing Remote Access Tools for MSPs
In this episode, we explore the critical issues surrounding remote access tools and their vulnerabilities, emphasizing the importance of trust between Managed Service Providers (MSPs) and their vendors. Our discussion covers: • Best Practices for Securing Remote Access: Learn effective strategies...
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Unlocking the Power of Managed Controls
In this episode, we explore the critical concept of shared responsibility in managed services, what we refer to as managed controls. As MSPs take on more security and compliance functions for clients, understanding and clearly defining the boundaries of responsibility becomes essential—not just…
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How to Build a vCISO Practice for MSPs
In this episode, we delve into the **journey of certification in IT services**, highlighting the critical role it plays in becoming a trusted advisor to clients. We explore the various **challenges faced during the certification process**, from understanding complex requirements to implementing...
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Weekly discussion of news, events, and topics of interest to the global managed services professional community. The series will have the latest and most relevant discussions in managed services and cloud computing, featuring special guests and notable figures in the profession.
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Charles Weaver
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