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The Murder Police Podcast
by David Lyons Communications LLC
True Crime. Real Detectives.
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Welcome to Season 14!
Send us Fan MailStarting Season 14 out with a 6 part series that a real true crime fan will love!David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QDo you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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P1: The Treehouse. The Story Netflix Couldn't Tell.
Send us Fan MailOur candid behind the scenes conversation with Steven Meyers and Shawn Johnson. A bank robber who studies law enforcement like a science project. A retired FBI agent who spends years trying to predict the next move. Then, decades later, they finally compare notes. That’s the tension driving our conversation with Sean Johnson, the former FBI case agent who led the investigation, and Steven, the accomplice who later wrote The Treehouse and helped tell the story behind the Netflix documentary How to Rob a Bank. We talk about how this all starts long before the first robbery: Scott “Hollywood” Scurlock’s precision mindset, his shift from meth production to bank jobs, and the way he treats risk like a craft. Steven breaks down the reality of surveillance and countersurveillance, including the crew’s code for police, how lookouts are positioned, and why “normal” patrols matter less than the moment a car comes flying with urgency. Sean adds the law enforcement side: what investigators can prove, what they can only suspect, and how a multi-year spree leaves holes that haunt a case agent. The second half goes where true crime rarely gets to go: the proffer interviews and the psychology of bargaining. Steven explains how he decides when to tell the truth and when to minimize, while Sean explains how agents keep it professional and fact-driven while trying to close gaps, connect crimes, and secure a plea agreement. The treehouse itself becomes more than a location, it’s the hub where identity, secrecy, and myth all collide. If you want a deeper, more honest look at FBI bank robbery investigations, criminal tactics, and the human choices inside a real case, listen now. Subscribe, share this with a true crime friend, and leave us a review so more listeners can find the show.Get Steven Meyers' THE TREEHOUSE today on Amazon.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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Human Trafficking with Detective Ricky Lynn | Part 4 of 4
Send us Fan MailA woman posted an ad to sell herself because she had no food at home and needed baby formula. That story sets the tone for a hard conversation with Detective Ricky Lynn about human trafficking as it exists in the real world: less Hollywood, more coercion built from vulnerability, addiction, homelessness, and fear.We unpack how victims can live inside exploitation without even naming it, why trafficking overlaps with domestic violence and long-term relationship control, and what Lynn has learned from working cases tied to drug dependency and survival sex. He shares what he sees in treatment programs and why the numbers are far bigger than most communities want to admit. We also talk about the personal cost of this work, including secondary trauma for investigators and how repeated exposure to child sexual abuse material can change the way a person experiences everyday life.The conversation goes wider into labor trafficking and debt bondage, including how organized networks move people across borders, impose “travel debts,” and use threats against family back home to enforce compliance. Lynn explains practical tools that can protect victims and witnesses in the United States, including continued presence, the T visa for human trafficking, and the role of victim advocates and immigration attorneys who can help even when someone is not ready to call police.We end by facing the demand side head-on, from sting operations to online grooming risks, and why prevention has to include smarter reporting pathways like the National Human Trafficking Hotline and trusted local organizations. Subscribe, share this with someone who needs to hear it, and leave us a review so more people can find the show.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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Human Trafficking with Detective Ricky Lynn | Part 3 of 4
Send us Fan MailPeople picture trafficking as a stranger and a van, but the reality is usually quieter and harder to spot: a need gets filled, then used as a leash. We sit down with Detective Ricky Lynn to talk about human trafficking and sex trafficking in Kentucky, and why the most important evidence often starts with understanding vulnerability instead of judging behavior.We dig into how traffickers use addiction, withdrawal, and the promise of a bed or a hotel room to control adults and minors, and why that cycle can look like “choice” from the outside. Ricky explains the method he uses to prove cases by “writing the vulnerability backwards,” showing what a victim lacked and how the trafficker exploited it. We also talk about runaway teens, missing kids, and why the danger grows fast once basic needs like food, showers, and a safe place to sleep disappear.The conversation gets practical for law enforcement and for anyone supporting survivors: trauma-informed interviewing, why “I believe you” can open the door to truth, and how strong investigations can reduce the burden on victims in court. We cover Kentucky’s tougher human trafficking penalties, the victims fund, and the Tim Nolan case as an example of networks that recruit through access and enticement. We also confront modern grooming where it actually happens: porn culture, regular-web escort ads, Snapchat, OnlyFans money pathways, and even payment apps being used to normalize transactions with kids.If you care about real prevention, better reporting, and accountability that doesn’t retraumatize victims, this is a tough but necessary listen. Subscribe, share this with a friend, and leave a review so more people find it.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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Human Trafficking with Detective Ricky Lynn | Part 2 of 4
Send us Fan MailA “white van” isn’t the center of most human trafficking stories. Vulnerability is. We sit down with Detective Ricky Lynn for one of the darkest conversations we’ve produced, and we ask the question people avoid because it’s uncomfortable: how does exploitation actually work when the victim is hungry, homeless, scared, or trying to survive another night?We unpack a clear, real-world definition of human trafficking, including child sex trafficking and CSAM, and why “something of value” is often a meal, a ride, a hotel shower, dry clothes, drugs, or even a 50-cent bottle of water. Ricky walks us through how traffickers groom targets at malls and public spaces without force, by identifying the kid who has nowhere to go. We also talk about trauma-informed, victim-centered policing, why community contact matters more than activity metrics, and how so much harm lives in the unreported “dark figure of crime.”Then we move into the tougher layers: family-based trafficking, neglect that opens the door to predators, and the reality that systems like social services may be stretched past their limits. For adults, we break down the legal test of force, fraud, or coercion and how addiction and “dope sick” withdrawal can be used as control.If you care about real prevention, real warning signs, and real accountability, listen through to the end. Subscribe, share this with someone who still believes the myths, and leave us a review so more people can find the facts.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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Human Trafficking with Detective Ricky Lynn | Part 1 of 4
Send us Fan MailThe hardest episodes are usually the ones we most need to hear, and this conversation goes straight into the reality behind the phrase “human trafficking.” We sit down with Detective Ricky Lynn to talk about what he saw on Lexington, Kentucky’s 7th Street and why the old approach of arresting women for prostitution often made the harm worse: withdrawal in a cell, more debt, and more pressure to return to the street just to survive. Ricky walks us through his path from a tiny farm-town upbringing in upstate New York to big-city patrol in Lexington, where street prostitution, crack cocaine, and violence collided. We dig into how trust actually gets built with people the culture tells you to dismiss, and why those relationships can become crucial in violent crime and homicide investigations. He shares the behind-the-scenes evolution from “go get them” policing to a victim-centered, trauma-informed response that treats exploited people as human beings with names, histories, and a real chance to turn a corner. We also talk about the turning point: third shift officers realizing they were doing a disservice, then partnering with community advocates, including Southland Church and the organization Natalie’s Sisters, created after a woman named Natalie was killed. Outreach became practical and direct: showing up consistently, bringing food, offering rides to services, and using a uniformed presence for safety rather than intimidation. The result is a clearer, more grounded view of sex trafficking, coercion, and what help can look like when law enforcement and community support move in the same direction. If you value honest conversations about human trafficking, victim services, and real-world policing, subscribe, share this episode with a friend, and leave a five-star written review so more people can find it.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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In the Wake of Golgotha with Daniel Grace | Part 2 of 2
Send us Fan MailJustice is easy to talk about until you have to define what it looks like outside a courtroom. David sits down with author Daniel Mark Grace to wrestle with the questions true crime always circles: what do we mean when we call something evil, who carries the burden of judgment, and how does a society decide it has the right to take a human life?We dig into the uncomfortable overlap of law and religion, especially in capital punishment cases where moral belief, legal precedent, and human emotion all show up in the same room. We talk about why criminal defense attorneys matter even when the crime is monstrous, and why “fair process” is a heavy promise for jurors, investigators, and families. Along the way, we challenge the urge to flatten violent crimes into simple narratives, because context is often the part that hurts to look at.Grace also walks us through the ideas behind his novel In the Wake of Golgotha, a story that reimagines Pontius Pilate and Judas Iscariot in modern-day New York City. From Golgotha to Central Park, the book uses guilt, ambition, weakness, addiction, and a personified darkness to ask whether people are driven by fate or choice and whether anyone gets a second chance after an unforgivable act.If you care about true crime storytelling, the death penalty debate, and the deeper psychology of good and evil, this conversation is for you. Subscribe, share this episode with a friend, and leave a review so more listeners can find the show.Order your copy of In The Wake of Golgotha today!https://www.amazon.com/Wake-Golgotha-Daniel-Grace/dp/B0FY3WCZWR/David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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In the Wake of Golgotha with Daniel Grace | Part 1 of 2
Send us Fan MailA crucifixion is a historical event, a religious symbol, and also a legal sentence carried out by real people. That’s the doorway we walk through with author Daniel Grace, a Chianti Classico winemaker who wrote a dark, modern literary thriller rooted in an ancient act of capital punishment.We talk about his debut novel, In The Wake Of Golgotha, and why he chose to reimagine Judas Iscariot and Pontius Pilate not as flat villains, but as human beings trapped in the aftermath of judgment. Daniel shares the research that surprised him most: how little we truly know about these figures, how “convenient narratives” harden into cultural memory, and why the question of who is responsible still haunts modern true crime conversations.From there, we draw sharp parallels between ancient Jerusalem and present-day New York City, between crucifixion and the death penalty, and between courtroom procedure and the spiritual rituals that surround an execution. We also explore the uncomfortable “middle hands” of justice, the people tasked with carrying out a sentence, and how juries weigh guilt when addiction, trauma, and desperation are part of the story. If you’re interested in capital crime cases, jury psychology, crime and punishment, redemption, and the overlap between faith and violence, this bonus conversation goes straight to the hard questions.Subscribe to Murder Police Podcast, share this episode with a friend who loves thoughtful true crime, and leave us a review with your take: can any sentence ever truly fit the worst crimes?Order your copy of In The Wake of Golgotha today!https://www.amazon.com/Wake-Golgotha-Daniel-Grace/dp/B0FY3WCZWR/David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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18 Wheels and a Highway: The Murder of Myra Danette Stalbosky | Part 4
Send us Fan MailA capital case turns on a quiet skill most courtroom dramas skip: building the right jury. We walk you through how careful voir dire, local insight, and patient strategy led to a strong panel—and why, eight days into testimony, the defense abruptly pled guilty and waived appeals. From there, the story jumps years ahead to a tense parole window, where two hours of focused testimony convinced the Kentucky Parole Board to impose life. What emerges is a real look at how justice isn’t a single moment but a chain of disciplined choices.We also open the hood on defense tactics and the math of reasonable doubt, the penalty-phase mindset, and why judges’ tendencies can shape a case’s path. Sonny shares how the investigation—and a promise to a victim’s mother—reshaped his policing: trust trained intuition, chase the small lead before it dies, and never let pride outrun the work. You’ll hear about a partial, lawyer-shaped statement that skirts ownership, prior serious offenses that foreshadowed tragedy, and the haunting possibility of uncounted victims along trucking corridors where mobility creates opportunity and witnesses are scarce.The conversation doesn’t stop at the criminal courtroom. We examine the civil suit that tested a carrier’s hiring practices and the realistic limits of employer liability, even as detectives weave weigh-station data, phone records, and witness timelines into proof. A striking moment—spotting a blue 1978 Ford F-250 after the parole hearing—feels like a closing loop, a nod to attention paid and a promise kept. If you care about true crime that respects victims, values craft over theatrics, and honors the grind behind big decisions, this story will stay with you.If this episode resonated, follow the show, share it with a friend, and leave a quick review. Your support helps keep victims’ names alive and brings more careful reporting to cases that deserve it.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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18 Wheels and a Highway: The Murder of Myra Danette Stalbosky | Part 3
Send us Fan MailA prayer on the interstate. A family in a hotel room. An angel-shaped earring that turns a hunch into a roadmap. We take you inside a rare blend of raw humanity and rigorous police work as a young investigator faces the most difficult duty in the job—breaking unimaginable news—then steps into the fire to build a case that can stand up in court.From a guarded stretch of highway to a lab bench in Quantico, we trace how small details grow into powerful evidence. You’ll hear how a yellow-insulated wire with a blue connector, found near a guardrail, links back to a suspect’s truck through meticulous tool‑mark comparison. We unpack early medical insights pointing to rape and a fatal neck disarticulation, and we navigate the mid‑90s landscape of evolving DNA science: blood in a recovered mattress matching the victim, seminal fluid matching the suspect, and the careful chain of custody that kept it all intact. The angel earring—one at the scene, one in the truck—undergoes metallurgical testing to confirm a high‑probability pair, adding another beam to a structure of proof.The investigation widens with the FBI and Kentucky State Police at the table, a late‑night warrant, and a suspect who goes from talkative to silent. Inside the courthouse, elite defense counsel challenges every inch—preservation motions, discovery dumps, and attacks on forensic reliability—while the prosecution assembles a clear, consistent story for a thoughtful jury. Through it all, we keep focus where it belongs: honoring the victim, supporting the family, and showing the unglamorous, exacting craft that turns compassion and evidence into justice.Subscribe, share with a true crime friend, and leave a quick review to help others find the show. What piece of evidence stood out most to you—DNA, the wire, or the earring? We’d love to hear your take.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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18 Wheels and a Highway: The Murder of Myra Danette Stalbosky | Part 2
Send us Fan MailA lone truck on a crowded interstate. A quick mental calculation that says, stop this one. That’s where our story turns: a roadside decision that opens a far bigger truth about the disappearance of Myra Stoboski and the precision required to find it. We walk through the stop, the small talk that doesn’t add up, and the careful strategy behind securing consent for a full search. Inside the sleeper berth, the details speak louder than any denial: long blonde hairs with apparent skin matter, a bare stained mattress flipped to hide its story, and the soft drop of a bent angel earring. Those finds point in one direction, but discipline matters. We explain why probable cause isn’t enough, why triability drives decisions. From there, the work shifts to timelines and corroboration. Subpoenaed phone records and weigh station logs lock movements to minutes, undermining the suspect’s Walmart claim and placing Myra’s final call at a truck stop six miles north. With a likely interstate crime scene, we bring in the FBI, whose resources and experience accelerate the search. An air-to-ground sweep follows the data, scanning I-71 with purpose until a helicopter call changes everything at mile marker 29.5. On the embankment, the visual facts connect back to that tiny earring and a trail of contradictions, turning a gut feeling into a case that can stand in court. Along the way, we talk about what most true crime shows gloss over: how to protect a search from suppression, why suspects are kept present, and how body language in silence can be its own interview. We share the emotional weight carried by families and investigators who have to wait one more day for the truth to hold. It’s a story about patience, evidence, and the power of small clues to cut through big lies.If this episode resonated, subscribe, share it with a friend, and leave a written review. Your support helps us honor victims and keep their names alive.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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18 Wheels And A Highway | The Murder of Myra Danette Stalbosky | Part 1
Send us Fan MailA father’s worry, a 14.7-second call, and a grainy tape from a SuperAmerica lot set a true crime story in motion. We walk you through the final hours of 18-year-old reserve officer Myra Stalbosky—her truck trouble on I-65, a rest area encounter with a trucker, and a pickup left at Exit 22 with no sign of its driver. Then comes the sound that changes everything: a jake brake on I-71, a passing rig that looks just like the one on tape, and a radio call that turns instinct into a traffic stop. We invited Sonny Boggs to unpack not only what happened, but how he knew where to look. His path from teenage firefighter to EMT to military police laid the groundwork for a quiet kind of readiness—calm, curiosity, and the habit of asking one more question. That background explains the decisive moves in this case: recognizing value in poor video, calling the chief early, looping in media, and seizing a fleeting chance on the interstate. When the driver is stopped, his answers—forgetfulness about yesterday, an admission to falsifying a logbook—become behavioral evidence that sharp listeners will hear for what it is: a story caving in. This episode is a study in how real investigations advance without cinematic shortcuts. Small departments juggle robberies, missing persons, and scarce resources. Evidence is rarely clean; cameras are outdated, and witnesses are tired or scared. Yet people and choices still matter. A father shows grace. An officer trusts his training and his gut. A team moves fast, not reckless. If you’re drawn to cases where observation, timing, and human nature intersect, this is that story. Stay with us for part one of a case that honors the victim, respects the family, and shows how intuition aligns with hard evidence on the road to justice. If this moved you or taught you something about real police work, hit follow, share it with a friend, and leave a quick review so more listeners can find it.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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Join Me At The Clark County Library To Explore How Real Murder Investigations Work
Send us Fan MailWant a straight answer on how homicide investigations actually work? We’re gathering at the Clark County Public Library in Winchester, Kentucky on Thursday February 5, 2026 at 6:00 PM, for an evening that swaps TV shortcuts for the real craft of solving serious crimes. I’ll share the nuts and bolts of building a case—from the first officer on scene to evidence processing, interview strategy, timelines, and the tight coordination with labs and prosecutors—so you can see why patience, documentation, and corroboration are the backbone of the work.We go deep on mythbusting. Expect clear talk about DNA limitations and backlogs, what a “match” really means, how interview bias creeps in and gets checked, and why airtight chain of custody beats dramatic reveals every time. I’ll walk through ethical decisions that rarely make headlines: notifying families, managing rumor storms, and balancing public transparency with the need to protect an investigation. Along the way, I’ll read short passages from my book, True Crime and Consequences, to ground the principles in real scenes and human stakes.Bring your questions. We’ll open the floor for a candid Q&A on cold cases, digital evidence, false confessions, and why some investigations stall while others move. You’ll also find discounted copies of the book and some free Murder Police Podcast swag as a thank-you to our local community and the library that makes events like this possible. If you value clear facts, careful method, and a respectful approach to victims and truth, this session is a chance to learn, challenge your assumptions, and connect with others who care about justice. Subscribe, share this with a true crime friend, and leave a quick review to help more people find the show.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QDo you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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An Update On The Timmy Sterner Case And A Family’s Fight For Answers
Send us Fan MailA father’s worst fear met a hard truth: remains found near a previously searched area were identified as Little Timmy Sterner. We invited Timmy’s dad, Tim, and stepmom, Ashley, to share what changed, what hasn’t, and how a family holds steady when communication from investigators goes quiet. The conversation moves from the moment the detective confirmed the ID to the agonizing weeks of no callbacks, and the practical fallout—memorial plans paused, questions multiplying, and a city’s attention drifting while a family can’t sleep. We unpack the scene details that matter for investigators: the proximity to a known house, the pet cemetery nearby, and the personal items still in his pockets, including a jail card and debit card. From there, we walk through the forensic realities of skeletal analysis—how labs assess bones for trauma, tool marks, and environmental effects to determine cause and manner of death. It’s slow work, but it’s essential, and it deserves clear, regular updates to the people who are living with the consequences. The heart of this episode is simple: respect the dead, and honor the living with information they can hold onto. Timmy and Ashley speak candidly about grief without closure, the need for accountability, and the question that haunts every parent: why. We also make a direct plea to the community. Someone knows what happened after Little Timmy walked out of custody and into that house. If you’ve heard anything, come forward—your voice may be the missing piece that moves this case toward arrest and conviction. After recording, we received one meaningful step forward: the Kentucky State Police released Timmy’s remains to the family so they can lay him to rest. If you care about true crime that centers victims and demands answers, this story needs you. Subscribe, share this episode with a friend, and leave a written review. Your support helps keep victims’ names alive and pushes hard questions into the light.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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Back On The Case! Finally!
Send us Fan MailThe mics are live again and the purpose is sharper than ever. After months of moving chaos, a dismantled studio, and a nasty bout of cervical nerve pain, we return with a Season 12 recap, a clear-eyed plan for Season 13, and a commitment that guides every decision: we never rush families for the sake of content.We walk through the moments that mattered last season—Linda Price’s disappearance told with her mother and son, Detective Eddie Pearson’s plain-language guide to deception detection, a documentary-style revisit to Rhonda Day’s case that helped local media reengage, and the high-voltage “Three Things” debates on Karen Read and Susan Smith. Then we look forward. The most requested story is back with a major development: Whatever Happened To Little Timmy now has a meaningful update. If you didn’t catch the news months ago, you’ll hear it here—because Tim reached out when he was ready. That’s the standard. Consent first, always.We also preview new work: an interview with a former detective on a Kentucky case involving an 18-year-old killed by an over-the-road truck driver, plus out-of-state cases we’ve been quietly building. Along the way, we celebrate the community that kept us moving—book tours for True Crime and Consequences, radio panels, local bookstore events, a classroom Q&A, and even a joyful detour with Buffett Jeep Girl and a Radio Margaritaville feature that proves light can live alongside hard truths.If you’re passionate about a case and think we’re the right fit, reach out. Subscribe on YouTube, set your podcast app to auto-download, and leave a five-star written review so more people find these stories. Share this episode with someone who cares about ethical true crime—and tell us which case you want us to cover next.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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The Drowning of Innocence: 3 Things on Susan Smith
Send us Fan Mail3 Things: Susan SmithWhat drives a mother to murder her own children? The Susan Smith case continues to haunt us nearly three decades later, raising profound questions about evil, justice, and the darkest corners of human nature.When Susan Smith reported that her two young sons had been kidnapped by a male black carjacker in October 1994, the nation watched in horror as the young mother made tearful television appeals for their safe return. But something about her story didn't add up. No witnesses, inconsistent statements, and behavior that struck many as performative rather than genuine. Nine days into the investigation, the truth emerged—there was no carjacker. Susan had driven her car to John D. Long Lake with three-year-old Michael and 14-month-old Alexander strapped inside, then released the brake, letting the vehicle roll into the water while she escaped.The devastating reality behind Smith's actions came into focus as investigators uncovered her relationship with a wealthy man who had recently ended their affair, making it clear he didn't want children. Rather than allowing her husband David to raise the boys, Smith chose to eliminate what she perceived as obstacles to her happiness in the most horrific way imaginable. The method of murder—drowning—inflicted terror and suffering on her children in their final moments, leaving first responders and family members with trauma that persists to this day.This episode dives deep into Wendy and David's most striking aspects of this infamous case: the initial lie and its racial component, the heartless method of murder, and the ongoing questions about justice as Susan Smith faces regular parole hearings that force her victims' family to repeatedly relive their trauma. Should someone who deliberately murdered their children ever walk free? Join us as we examine the case that changed how America views maternal filicide and consider what true justice looks like for the most vulnerable victims.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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Where Is Rhonda Day?
Send us Fan MailThe aching void of a missing loved one tears at the fabric of a family like nothing else. Rhonda Faye Day—compassionate soul, devoted grandmother-caretaker, avid reader, and animal lover—vanished from Kentucky on July 28, 2018, leaving her family in a nightmare that continues to this day.We trace Rhonda's story through the eyes of those who knew her best. She was the woman who stopped to move turtles from busy roads, the one who painted rocks for children to discover in parks, who sat beside hospital beds caring for ailing relatives. Despite personal struggles with addiction, Rhonda maintained deep connections with her family, especially her grandmother with whom she shared a home.The details surrounding her disappearance raise disturbing questions. After borrowing just $5 for gas to visit a childhood friend in Louisville, Rhonda called her grandmother promising to return home. She never did. Her car appeared days later, abandoned near the Ohio River, just over a mile from where she was last reportedly seen. Police told the family to retrieve the vehicle themselves instead of processing it for evidence—a critical error that may have compromised valuable forensic information. Meanwhile, the person Rhonda visited never participated in searches or reached out to check on her whereabouts.What happened to Rhonda Day? Did she suffer an overdose that someone covered up? Did something more sinister occur? Or, as some suggest but her family firmly denies, did she choose to disappear? The absence of activity on her phone or financial accounts since that July day speaks volumes.Someone knows what happened to Rhonda, and her family deserves answers. If you have information—no matter how small—please contact the Louisville Metro Police Department at 502-574-7111. Help bring Rhonda home and end this family's torment.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QDo you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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Is Karen Read this Generation's O.J. Simpson?
Send us Fan MailThe suspicious death of John O'Keefe and the subsequent trials of Karen Reed have divided communities, sparked heated debates online, and left countless questions unanswered. Was this a tragic accident, or something far more sinister? Join Wendy and David as they each share "3 Things" that they take away from this case. We dive deep into three key elements that raise serious doubts about what really happened that fateful night. First, the mysterious series of "butt dials" to O'Keefe's phone suggests someone was desperately searching for his device during critical hours. Second, the disturbing injuries on O'Keefe's arm – wounds containing pig DNA that resembled animal bites rather than car damage – coincided with the Alberts rehoming their German Shepherd shortly after the incident. Third, the suspicious Google searches asking "how long to die in the cold". Beyond the evidence itself, this case highlights systemic issues that plague our justice system. The shocking misconduct by State Trooper Michael Proctor, who sent horrifically unprofessional text messages about Karen Reed, undermined the prosecution's credibility. Meanwhile, the exceptional work of Reed's defense team exploited these vulnerabilities to create reasonable doubt. The decision to elevate charges from reckless behavior to murder may have ultimately backfired, as the evidence struggled to support such serious allegations. The Karen Reed case may well become this generation's OJ Simpson trial – legally resolved but forever questioned in the court of public opinion. Did the perfect storm of police misconduct, skilled defense work, and media attention prevent the truth from emerging? Or did the system work exactly as designed by preventing conviction when reasonable doubt existed? What do you think happened that night? Join the conversation and share your theories with us on YouTube or social media.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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True Crime and Consequences: The book | Part 2 of 2
Send us Fan MailDavid delves into the complex relationship between true crime enthusiasts and law enforcement, revealing how these two passionate communities can collaborate effectively to solve cases and support victims' families.The conversation explores the dangerous "landmines" amateur investigators must navigate - from constitutional issues to potential criminal charges. When true crime enthusiasts enter someone's property without permission or record conversations in two-party consent states, they risk not only compromising cases but facing legal jeopardy themselves. David shares wisdom gathered from decades in law enforcement, providing a crucial framework for ethical investigation.What makes this discussion particularly valuable is its dual perspective. While acknowledging the incredible resource true crime communities offer - primarily time and fresh viewpoints that overworked detectives desperately need - the conversation doesn't shy away from addressing problematic behaviors like vigilante "pedo catchers" who may actually make predators harder to catch. The podcast introduces a powerful concept: that silence from investigators doesn't mean inaction, but rather careful, methodical work happening behind the scenes.Most poignantly, David introduces the term "survivors" - the families and friends left behind after murders or disappearances - revealing how his book has already helped some navigate their frustration and grief by understanding investigation processes. This bridges the empathy gap between those who view cases as professional challenges and those who experience them as life-shattering events.Ready to become a more effective advocate for justice? Join the movement to create productive partnerships between true crime communities and law enforcement. Check murderpolicepodcast.com for upcoming tour dates, or reach out if you'd like David to visit your local bookstore or true crime club to continue this crucial conversation.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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True Crime and Consequences: The book | Part 1 of 2
Send us Fan MailWhat happens when the lines blur between true crime fascination and real murder investigations? Former homicide detective David Lyons tackles this pressing question in his groundbreaking book, "True Crime and Consequences: Does the True Crime Community Help Murder Investigations or Hurt Them?"On this special "hostile takeover" episode of the Murder Police Podcast, communication expert Scott Harvey interviews David about the delicate relationship between amateur sleuths and professional investigators. The timing couldn't be more relevant—as the true crime genre explodes in popularity, questions about ethics and responsibility have never been more important.David reveals how his book serves as an essential primer for multiple audiences. For true crime enthusiasts, it provides the "playground rules" to engage with cases responsibly. For content creators, it offers guidance on avoiding pitfalls that could jeopardize active investigations. And perhaps most surprisingly, it challenges law enforcement to recognize the value that dedicated civilians can bring to cold cases.Drawing from decades of investigative experience, David shares compelling insights about the differences between "virtue justice" (public condemnation) and criminal justice (proper legal proceedings). He points to troubling examples where social media campaigns have derailed prosecutions and potentially re-victimized grieving families.The conversation highlights a powerful paradox: while investigators are bound by legal constraints, members of the public can sometimes access information and perspectives that might otherwise remain hidden. When these two worlds collaborate effectively—with proper boundaries and mutual respect—justice becomes more attainable.Whether you're a dedicated true crimer, a law enforcement professional, or simply someone who cares about how justice works in the modern media landscape, this episode offers invaluable perspective on a relationship that continues to evolve. The question isn't whether true crime communities will influence investigations—it's how we can ensure that influence leads to justice rather than undermines it.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire! Part 4 of 4
Send us Fan MailUnlocking the secrets of deception through body language and strategic questioning—Eddie Pearson returns for the final installment of our riveting four-part series on reading what's not being said.Your body betrays your words. Despite our best efforts to control our non-verbal communication, our physiological responses—from subtle changes in breathing to unconscious movements—reveal what we're trying to hide. Pearson breaks down how investigators identify and interpret these invaluable clues during high-stakes interviews."The feet are the most honest part of the body," Pearson explains, demonstrating how toe direction indicates true intentions and comfort levels. He shares a compelling real-case example where a suspect's inadvertent response to a hypothetical question about cell phone recording immediately exposed his deception. Pearson reveals how "barring"—the tension in jaw muscles resembling an animal's defensive posture—once helped a corrections officer avoid assault by recognizing this primal warning sign.Beyond physical cues, Pearson dissects the art of strategic questioning. Learn why "what caused this to happen?" elicits more truthful responses than asking "why," how precise language prevents suspects from exploiting ambiguity, and why seemingly casual questions can crack even the most prepared liars. His insights on creating "windows" for confessions demonstrate how skilled investigators respond rather than react to shocking admissions.Whether you're fascinated by criminal psychology, communication dynamics, or the science of truth-seeking, Pearson's decades of expertise offer valuable lessons that extend far beyond interrogation rooms. Subscribe now to access all four parts of this masterclass in reading between the lines.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire! Part 3 of 4
Send us Fan MailThe human body betrays what the mind tries to conceal. From ancient Chinese techniques using rice to detect lies to modern statement analysis methods, our conversation with Eddie Pearson reveals the fascinating science behind deception detection.When someone lies, their brain experiences increased cognitive load – the mental strain of fabricating details while suppressing truth. This triggers physiological responses impossible to control: dry mouth, changed blinking patterns, and subtle shifts in posture. These involuntary reactions have provided the foundation for lie detection throughout human history.Pearson shares powerful interrogation techniques that leverage these responses. The strategic use of silence forces suspects to fill uncomfortable voids, often revealing more than they intended. Language analysis provides equally compelling insights – shifts in verb tense during narratives, dropped personal pronouns, and words ending in "-ly" often signal deception. Even the choice between articles ("a" versus "the") can reveal someone's true familiarity with people or situations they claim not to know."The first person to speak after a question is the person who loses," Pearson notes, highlighting how patience becomes a powerful tool in uncovering truth. Through case examples, including a hit-and-run investigation where a single word ("directly") unlocked crucial information, we explore how these techniques have solved real crimes and revealed hidden truths.Whether you're fascinated by criminal psychology, communication science, or simply interested in understanding human behavior better, this episode offers rare insights into how our words and bodies reveal what we try to hide. Subscribe now to hear the next installment in our series with Eddie Pearson, where we'll continue exploring the science of detecting deception.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire! Part 2 of 4
Send us Fan MailEddie Pearson pulls back the curtain on interrogation psychology, revealing that our feet—not our faces—often betray our true feelings. "The feet are the most honest part of the body," he explains, drawing from decades of experience reading subtle cues that most people miss. Far from the Hollywood portrayal of intimidating interrogators, Pearson describes a more nuanced approach focused on building rapport, managing cognitive load, and paying attention to clusters of non-verbal behaviors.The conversation takes surprising turns, exploring how something as simple as offering water creates a psychological obligation that suspects often feel compelled to reciprocate with honesty. "I always bring them a bottle of water," Pearson notes. "Now I've given you something. Now you need to give me something." Another investigator adds, "If we had a 24-hour Burger King next to headquarters, our confession rate would probably increase."Pearson shares practical techniques like watching for "anchor point movements"—when someone shifts multiple points of physical contact simultaneously in response to specific questions—and recognizing "smoke screening," where subjects overwhelm investigators with irrelevant but verifiable details. These tactics aren't just useful in criminal investigations; they apply to everyday situations from restaurant recommendations to business negotiations.What makes this discussion particularly valuable is its balanced perspective on truth-seeking. While confession techniques are explored in depth, Pearson emphasizes that success isn't measured by getting confessions but by uncovering truth—sometimes exonerating innocent people. "My job is to get as much information as I can," he explains, highlighting cases where polygraph examinations helped clear wrongly accused suspects.Whether you're fascinated by criminal psychology or simply want to better understand human communication, this episode offers rare insights into the subtle art of reading people beyond their words. Ready to detect deception in your daily life? Listen now and discover what people's bodies reveal when their words say otherwise.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire! Part 1 of 4
Send us Fan MailForget everything you've seen in crime dramas about slamming tables and bright lights. Former detective Eddie Pearson reveals the subtle science behind real interrogation techniques in this eye-opening conversation about body language and statement analysis.The forehead serves as the "billboard of body language," where trained investigators can read microexpressions that betray our inner thoughts. Pearson explains why watching for changes in someone's baseline behavior matters more than looking for specific "deception indicators." Context is everything—the same physical expression can represent either profound joy or devastating grief depending on the situation.Fascinatingly, Pearson reveals the cognitive load created by lying. The brain must perform six distinct mental operations to tell and maintain a lie, triggering a cascade of stress hormones that manifest physically. This explains why investigators watch for shifts in breathing patterns, hand gestures, and body posture that signal this internal struggle.Did you know women typically possess twice as many emotional receptors in their brains as men? This biological difference explains why women often excel at detecting emotional nuances and deception. Pearson shares how this gender distinction plays out in real-world interrogations and how both men and women can develop stronger observation skills.The most powerful moments in an interrogation often come when suspects adopt what Pearson calls the "ears over heart" posture—leaning forward with their body language signaling surrender. This physical shift frequently precedes confession, highlighting how our bodies often reveal truth before our words catch up.Want to sharpen your own ability to read nonverbal cues? Pearson offers a simple exercise: watch your favorite TV show with the sound off for 15 minutes, then check your accuracy. This practical technique helps develop the same observational skills that make effective investigators.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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Where is Linda Price? | Part 2 of 2
Send us Fan MailA decade of unanswered questions haunts the family of Linda Price, who vanished from a small Kentucky community leaving behind only whispers, theories, and a mother and son determined to bring her home.The truth seems tangled in the complex web of small-town silence. Linda's son Chase and her mother Mary Elizabeth share their most credible theory: Linda was staying with a man in McKinney when she and another woman allegedly took money. When consequences came calling, the other woman blamed Linda entirely—potentially sealing her fate. This narrative has consistently emerged from multiple sources, including prison informants and community whispers."It's a very tight community down there. You know everybody's got tight lips... If you're a snitch, you're going to go missing," Chase explains, describing the code of silence that has protected those with knowledge for ten years. The woman who allegedly falsely accused Linda still lives in the community, reportedly clean from drugs but "carrying a demon on her back," while the man Linda stayed with has seemingly vanished without trace.Their search has led to "the cut"—an old train tunnel in McKinney where sources suggest Linda's remains may have been discarded after being moved multiple times during decomposition. Despite numerous searches by both family and authorities, no conclusive evidence has emerged. A recent anonymous tip pointed toward Pulaski County Park Lake, offering yet another location to investigate.What's most striking is the family's perspective on justice. They've prepared a headstone with Linda's birth date but no death date, and a burial plot awaits her. "I'm not looking for revenge or retribution, just relief," says Chase. Their message to those with knowledge shows remarkable grace: "I respect why you're doing what you do, because of the world you live in, but don't make us be a part of that world and just give us what we want."If you have information about Linda Price's disappearance, please come forward—even anonymously. A family waits to bring their loved one home, offering understanding rather than judgment in exchange for the truth they've sought for far too long.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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Where is Linda Price? | Part 1 of 2
Send us Fan MailThe haunting disappearance of Linda Price tears at the heart of a Kentucky family as whispered secrets circulate but answers remain elusive.Mary Elizabeth never imagined she would hear news about her missing daughter from inmates at the Lincoln County Jail where she worked. "Miss Mary, we have family out there. We can't talk to you about anything," they told her after making cryptic comments suggesting they knew what happened to Linda. This devastating experience eventually forced Mary to leave a job she loved because she couldn't bear working "beside these people that know what's happened to my daughter."Born in 1983 in Danville, Kentucky, Linda Price was a loving mother of two who enjoyed simple pleasures – skating at the local rink, playing with dolls as a child, and surrounding herself with her favorite color, blue. As the only girl among three brothers, she learned to be tough early in life. But toughness wasn't enough to shield her from the grip of addiction that eventually led to her cycling through local jails and distancing herself from loved ones.The last confirmed contact with Linda was a phone call with her father on June 8, 2015. Her son Chase, just 12 years old at the time, initially didn't grasp the severity of his mother's disappearance given her history of being "in and out of the picture." Years later, he's still searching for answers alongside his grandmother, who carries the weight of wondering if she could have done more. "I carry a lot of blame that I wasn't there for her," Mary Elizabeth shares, her grief still raw after nearly a decade.What really happened to Linda Price? Does someone in this close-knit community know the truth? Listen as we explore this heartbreaking mystery that reveals how substance abuse, small-town dynamics, and family struggles converge into a perfect storm of uncertainty and pain. If you recognize Linda or have information about her disappearance, please contact authorities or the podcast team immediately.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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3 Things: Madeleine McCann
Send us Fan MailThe haunting disappearance of three-year-old Madeleine McCann from her family's vacation apartment in Portugal continues to captivate and disturb us nearly two decades later. What began as a parents' nightmare on May 3, 2007, has evolved into one of the world's most enduring missing child cases, spawning international investigations, media frenzies, and countless theories.Our deep dive into the McCann case examines the critical elements that still perplex investigators and true crime enthusiasts alike. We explore the controversial decision by Kate and Gerry McCann to leave their three young children sleeping while they dined nearby, and the subsequent cadaver dog alerts that shifted suspicion toward the parents themselves. The investigation's early missteps—particularly the failure to properly secure the crime scene—mirror other famous cases where contaminated evidence hampered justice.The most compelling recent development centers on Christian Brückner, a convicted sex offender now considered the prime suspect by German authorities. The disturbing evidence found at his abandoned factory—including dozens of children's swimsuits and digital materials—paints a troubling picture of a predator potentially linked to Madeleine's disappearance. With Brückner's prison release looming in 2025, investigators race against time to build a prosecutable case.We also confront the media's powerful role in shaping public perception of the McCanns, raising questions about responsible reporting and the court of public opinion. Whether Madeleine's case involves a lone predator or potentially connects to larger child trafficking operations remains one of many unanswered questions in this heartbreaking mystery.Join our conversation about this landmark case and share your own theories. What are your three key points about the Madeleine McCann disappearance? The search for truth—and justice for a little girl who would now be approaching adulthood—continues.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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The Vanishing of Michael Keith Gorley: What Are They Hiding? Part 3 of 3
Send us Fan MailA mother's faith doesn't waver, even after a decade of searching for her missing son. Sandra Hasty and daughter Jennifer share the haunting story of Michael Gorley's disappearance from rural Kentucky—a case marked by strange encounters, spiritual guidance, and the frustrating knowledge that someone knows exactly what happened.The details paint a disturbing picture: Michael's hat and shoes mysteriously left on a porch, an official story claiming he walked away barefoot in swimming trunks, and the chilling moment when Jennifer shook hands with someone who "looked like they'd seen a ghost" at the mere mention of Michael's name. Through it all, a voice kept telling Jennifer to "turn around" during their search, each time revealing new, unsettling information.Ten years later, three people connected to the disappearance have died, taking potential secrets to their graves. Yet Detective Thornberry of the Kentucky State Police continues working the case, assuring the family it will never truly go "cold." Meanwhile, Sandra has channeled her grief into action, hosting annual vigils that bring together families of missing and murdered individuals to share support and information.The family has prepared for Michael's eventual return by purchasing a headstone, arranging a funeral, and paying for a burial vault—practical steps that speak to both their hope and their heartbreaking acceptance of possibilities. Their message to those harboring information remains simple: "All we care about is finding Michael. Bring him home."With advances in forensic science solving decades-old cases, Sandra remains steadfast: "I've seen cases solved after 13, 15, 20 years... I will never lose hope." Have information about Michael Gourley? Contact Kentucky State Police Post 7 at 859-623-2404. You can remain anonymous.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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The Vanishing of Michael Keith Gorley: What Are They Hiding? Part 2 of 3
Send us Fan MailA mother's intuition and a sister's unexplainable spiritual experience drive the desperate search for Michael Keith Gorley after his Ford Explorer is discovered partially submerged in a pond on Wilderness Trail Road in Lincoln County, Kentucky.Sandra Hasty and Jennifer Gorley Coffey take us through the bewildering days following Michael's disappearance, revealing a web of suspicious circumstances that point to something far more sinister than a simple missing persons case. The timeline begins when two women with questionable backgrounds arrive at Sandra's home to report the truck in the pond—women who would later appear with freshly washed hair, makeup, and clean clothes during the search.The family's account systematically dismantles the narrative that Michael was behaving erratically or intoxicated. His grandmother and two uncles confirm he was perfectly lucid when seeking help to retrieve his vehicle. But the most compelling element emerges when Jennifer experiences something unprecedented—a loud, stern voice repeatedly commanding her to "find Michael," a directive that proves eerily prescient as contradictions in witness statements begin to surface.Every turn in this investigation raises more questions: Why would the person who claimed Michael was at their home at 11 PM later insist he'd left walking between 8-9 PM? Why did the women nervously prevent Jennifer from approaching a shed and field area behind the property? Why did an acquaintance attempt to flee upon recognizing Jennifer? From a mysterious blood-like substance on the vehicle registration to inexplicable gaps in the police investigation, this episode exposes the frustrating reality many families face when seeking answers about missing loved ones. Listen as Jennifer describes the moment she's inexplicably told to shake hands with one of the last people to see her brother—a gesture that will reveal something crucial about Michael's fate.Subscribe now to follow this family's relentless pursuit of truth and justice for Michael Keith Gourley.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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The Vanishing of Michael Keith Gorley: What Are They Hiding? Part 1 of 3
Send us Fan MailThe unsolved disappearance of Michael Keith Gorley haunts the backroads of rural Kentucky like a ghost story without an ending. Ten birthdays, ten Christmas mornings, ten Mother's Days have passed while his family waits for answers that never come.Sandra Hasty remembers the last morning she saw her son - May 17, 2015. Michael had slept in her bed that night (she took his), a simple moment of connection that would become a treasured final memory. Just five days earlier, he'd been released from jail after the grand jury refused to indict him on charges stemming from being in a car where others possessed drugs.The mystery began that afternoon when two women arrived at Sandra's door with a bizarre story: Michael had driven his truck into a pond on Wilderness Trail Road. The family found this immediately suspicious. Michael had been seen earlier that day at his grandmother's house, seeking help to remove the vehicle, but showing no signs of erratic behavior. Why would he deliberately drive his only vehicle into water?After retrieving the truck (which mysteriously smelled of gasoline in the back), the story took a darker turn. When Sandra called someone at a house on Highway 300 asking about Michael at 11 PM, she was told he was there. By morning, the story changed - Michael had supposedly left walking between 8-9 PM. Two weeks later, bloodhounds would track his scent along this route before losing it near Hatcher Road.Michael's sister Jennifer shares poignant memories of her brother - his love of football (number 55), his work installing flooring at the famous Versailles Castle, his passion for mudding and four-wheeling, and the devastating losses he'd endured in the years before his disappearance. Their father had died in 2004, followed by two more family deaths in quick succession.What happened on that May evening? What are people hiding? And why, after a decade, is there still no justice for a man who once wrote poetry, loved comedy movies, and would give the clothes off his back to someone in need?Have you seen Michael? Do you know something that might help bring his family peace? Listen to part one of this three-part investigation into a case that demands answers.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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3 Things: Jeffrey Dahmer
Send us Fan MailJoin Wendy and David for their 3 Things, this time, on Jeffrey Dahmer. The case of Jeffrey Dahmer continues to haunt our collective consciousness decades after his crimes came to light. What makes this story so deeply disturbing isn't just the shocking nature of his murders, but the stark contrast between the monster and the man who appeared so ordinary to those around him. We delve into Dahmer's troubled childhood, where early warning signs manifested through his fascination with dissecting dead animals and his increasingly isolated behavior. As a withdrawn teenager battling alcoholism, he committed his first murder at just 18 years old—the beginning of a horrific pattern that would claim 17 lives over thirteen years. The podcast explores Dahmer's consistent and calculated murder methodology: luring young men from marginalized communities to his apartment with promises of money or modeling opportunities, drugging them with sleeping pills, and strangling them. What followed—dismemberment, preservation of body parts, and even cannibalism—reveals a disturbing psychology that challenges our understanding of human depravity. We examine his peculiar claim that he "didn't want them to leave," questioning whether this was genuine or merely a fabricated justification for his unthinkable compulsions. Perhaps most heartbreaking are the missed opportunities to stop his killing spree, including a devastating incident where officers returned a drugged, naked 14-year-old victim to Dahmer despite a neighbor's protests. This failure of the system raises profound questions about biases that may have influenced critical decisions. When Dahmer was finally apprehended in 1991 after a victim escaped, investigators discovered a house of horrors containing photographs, human remains, and evidence so disturbing that some reportedly remains sealed to this day. The Jeffrey Dahmer case forces us to confront uncomfortable truths about human nature and the limitations of our ability to identify dangerous individuals by appearance alone. How do we reconcile his calm, articulate demeanor with the monstrous acts he committed? What does it say about our society that he operated undetected for so long? Listen now and join us as we explore these questions and more in our most disturbing episode yet. And, what are your three things about Jeffrey Dahmer? Let us know on our social media platforms and YouTube.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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The Lexington Triple Homicide: Who Really Pulled the Trigger? | Part 3 of 3
Send us Fan MailA split jury verdict that defied expectations. Three men dead. A defendant who confessed but later died by suicide in prison. The Lexington Triple Homicide conclusion reveals the devastating consequences when drug culture, family violence, and opportunity collide.The detective's theory makes disturbing sense – victims who crashed hard after a "420 party" would have been unconscious when the shooter entered, explaining why neither woke when the other was killed. "People who do cocaine take the edge off with things that shut them down. It's how a lot of people actually die—they take speedballs," explains the James York from The 13th Floor Podcast, piecing together the timeline of this tragedy.What unfolds in the courtroom proves equally compelling. The Department of Public Advocacy mounted an extraordinary defense, scrutinizing every piece of evidence through rarely-seen chain of custody hearings. Despite overwhelming ballistic evidence connecting all three murders to the same .38 caliber revolver found with Ricky, the jury delivered a stunning split decision – guilty of killing two victims but not his stepfather.This case forces us to confront difficult questions about justice, extreme emotional disturbance as a legal defense, and the devastating ripple effects of violence. When Ricky later took his own life in prison, the tragedy claimed yet another victim, leaving his mother to grieve both her husband and son. His child would grow up without answers, and multiple families would be forever changed.The weight of serving on a capital murder jury, the psychology behind split verdicts, and the lasting trauma on investigators and families alike – this episode explores it all while honoring the victims whose lives were cut tragically short. Listen now to understand what really happened in this haunting Kentucky case where everyone involved lost something precious.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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The Lexington Triple Homicide: Who Really Pulled the Trigger? | Part 2 of 3
Send us Fan MailWhen detectives locate Ricky at a Louisville Red Roof Inn following a triple homicide in Lexington, they're stunned by his immediate confession: "I killed Aaron and Isaac and I'm proud I did it." But this chilling admission deliberately omits any mention of his stepfather Frank – the third victim discovered at a separate location.What follows is a masterclass in forensic investigation as experienced detectives meticulously dismantle Ricky's fabricated narrative. His version – that his friends killed his stepfather and he merely took revenge – quickly unravels against physical evidence. The crime scenes tell a different story: victims shot while sleeping, pockets turned inside-out, and ballistic evidence linking all three murders to the .38 revolver found in Ricky's possession.The discovery of Polaroid photographs showing Ricky, the victims, and two young women at a drug-fueled party the night before provides crucial context. These images, featuring cocaine and the murder weapon, help establish both timeline and motive. Meanwhile, Ricky's bizarre revelation that he watched investigators from nearby woods while calmly eating pizza offers a disturbing glimpse into his detached mindset.As forensic evidence mounts – shell casings hidden in kitchen drawers, ballistic matches between crime scenes, and a damning verbal slip during interrogation – the prosecution builds an airtight case against a killer who couldn't face admitting to his mother that he murdered her husband. This episode takes listeners deep into the investigative process, revealing how methodical detective work and forensic science uncovered the truth behind these senseless killings.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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The Lexington Triple Homicide: Who Really Pulled the Trigger? | Part 1 of 3
Send us Fan MailA routine death call transforms into a detective's worst nightmare when one body becomes three in a matter of hours. When Frank Reschke is found murdered in his recliner, detectives quickly realize they're missing two crucial elements - the victim's car and his stepson, Ricky Sherroan.What follows is a masterclass in homicide investigation as detectives balance gathering evidence from the initial crime scene while tracking down a suspect who seems to have vanished. When a worried father arrives looking for his son who was friends with the missing stepson, the case takes a devastating turn. "We've got two more over here," comes the chilling call that changes everything.The investigation spans from Lexington to Shively to Louisville in Kentucky as detectives work through the night, processing multiple crime scenes, interviewing witnesses, and coordinating with other jurisdictions - all while a mother endures the unimaginable reality of losing her husband and facing the possibility her son was responsible. The case raises profound questions about family trauma, evidence collection across multiple scenes, and how detectives maintain focus when working "on fumes."This riveting account delivers exceptional insight into the real workings of a major homicide investigation - from the crucial role coroners play in Kentucky (where they legally "own" the body and even have arrest powers) to the tactical decisions about search warrants and evidence processing that can make or break a case. Follow along as investigators unravel what really happened on April 20, 1999, and discover why Ricky Sherroan would ultimately be convicted of two murders but not three.Don't miss this remarkable journey into a case that demonstrates why the first 48 hours are critical in solving violent crimes. Subscribe now for the conclusion of this powerful story.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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3 Things: The Mendendez Brothers
Send us Fan MailTwo handsome, wealthy young men from Beverly Hills. Parents murdered by shotgun blasts in their own mansion. A whirlwind of spending on luxury cars and Rolex watches. Sexual abuse allegations that split public opinion. The Menendez brothers case remains one of America's most captivating true crime stories more than three decades after the 1989 murders shocked the nation.We peel back the layers of this infamous case, exploring its most perplexing elements: Why would Lyle and Erik Menendez murder the parents who were already giving them everything they wanted? What role did allegations of sexual and emotional abuse play in their defense? And most controversially - if those abuse claims were true, should that mitigate their punishment?The case broke open when Erik confessed to his therapist, who secretly recorded their sessions. When that recording reached authorities through the therapist's mistress, it set in motion a legal saga that would include two trials, national media coverage, and sentences of life without parole. Yet even today, efforts continue to secure the brothers' release based on what defense attorneys claim is new evidence supporting their abuse allegations.Beyond the facts of the case, we explore the troubling phenomenon of public fascination with the brothers themselves. Their wealthy lifestyle and physical appearance seemed to create an immediate bias among many observers who couldn't reconcile their polished exterior with the brutality of their crime - a phenomenon that continues to affect how we perceive defendants in high-profile cases today.What are your thoughts on this complex case? Would you have voted for manslaughter or murder? Should allegations of abuse affect sentencing in cases of patricide? Share your perspectives and let us know what other infamous cases you'd like us to examine next!David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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Murdered in Their Home: The Brutal Killing of Edwin & Bessie Morris | Part 3 of 3
Send us Fan Mail"Justice delayed is justice denied" takes on profound meaning in the story of Mark Morris, whose grandparents Edwin and Bessie Morris were brutally murdered on Father's Day evening in 1985. What began as an act of kindness – letting a familiar face use their phone when he claimed to be out of gas – ended in a savage double homicide that has left a family waiting for closure for nearly four decades.Mark takes us through the painful journey of three separate trials spanning decades, each ending with death sentences for killers Roger Epperson and Benny Lee Hodge, yet never resulting in execution. We learn how a 68-year-old man who had survived multiple heart attacks and strokes attempted to defend himself and his wife, reaching for a gun atop the refrigerator before being overpowered. The haunting detail of his one-eyed wife in her nightgown pleading for their lives before being murdered creates an indelible image of vulnerable people betrayed by someone they knew.The conversation reveals the devastating ripple effects of violent crime across generations. Father's Day – once a celebration – became permanently tainted for the Morris family. Mark shares how even his son has never given him a Father's Day card because of the painful association. We witness the surreal experience of victims' families funding the continued care of their loved ones' killers through tax dollars, all while watching those killers mock them in courtrooms by blowing kisses and showing zero remorse.Despite these profound challenges, Mark reveals how his family has preserved his grandparents' legacy through their values of generosity and togetherness. He finds some comfort in knowing what happened – a luxury not afforded to families of missing persons – and in the belief that his grandparents are together in the afterlife, having never spent a night apart in life.This episode provides a raw, firsthand account of how our justice system can fail victims' families even when securing convictions. It forces us to consider what justice truly means when those sentenced to death outlive the family members who fought so hard to see that sentence carried out.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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Murdered in Their Home: The Brutal Killing of Edwin & Bessie Morris | Part 2 of 3
Send us Fan MailA horrifying betrayal lies at the heart of Edwin and Bessie Morris's murder. The elderly couple was brutally killed in their Kentucky home—not by strangers, but by the son of Edwin's best friend and his violent accomplices. The nightmare for the Morris family began with a confusing phone call delivering unimaginable news, but it would be months before they discovered who was responsible. Roger Dale Epperson—whose father was so close to Edwin that he served as honorary pallbearer at his funeral—along with Benny Lee Hodge and Donald Bartley had carefully planned the robbery and murders, part of a violent crime spree that devastated multiple families across Kentucky.We sit down with family members who take us through their forty-year journey through the justice system, revealing courtroom horrors few could imagine. From killers who taunted and blew kisses to family members during trial, to the shock of seeing Epperson's mother wearing the murdered grandmother's stolen wedding ring in court, this story exposes the extended trauma victims' families endure long after the crime.Perhaps most chilling is the insight into the minds of the remorseless. "They love it, they love it, they relive it," explains our guest, dispelling the myth that imprisoned killers spend their time regretting their actions. For truly evil perpetrators, their crimes become treasured memories they revisit with pleasure.The case also reveals how media can revictimize families, when Sherry Hamilton—one of the accomplices who helped purchase supplies for the murders—later appeared on shows like Oprah presenting herself as a victim rather than a willing participant in brutal killings.Four decades later, the pain hasn't diminished. "It's still as fresh sitting here now as it was that morning I got the phone call," shares one family member, reminding us why justice matters, why victims deserve to be remembered, and why some wounds never fully heal.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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Murdered in Their Home: The Brutal Killing of Edwin & Bessie Morris | Part 1 of 3
Send us Fan MailThe quiet town of Gray Hawk, Kentucky had one stoplight in the entire county. Nobody locked their doors. Everyone knew everyone. It was here that Edwin and Bessie Morris built their life, running the local grocery store, post office, and gas station. Their grandson Mark Morris remembers them as pillars of the community - hardworking people who helped neighbors who couldn't afford groceries and kept "cold cash" hidden in styrofoam cups in the freezer.When Mark's father made his routine morning check-in on his parents in June 1985, he discovered a scene of unimaginable horror. Both Edwin and Bessie had been bound, brutally beaten, and murdered in their own home. The first double homicide in Jackson County history shattered not just a family, but an entire way of life.What makes this story particularly heartbreaking is how the killers gained entry - by simply knocking and asking for help, claiming they'd run out of gas. The very kindness that defined Edwin and Bessie led to their deaths. Even more shocking was the eventual revelation that one of the perpetrators was the son of Edwin's best friend.For Mark's father, the trauma never faded. Until his death in 2002, he relived finding his parents' bodies every night in his dreams. Now, approaching the 40th anniversary of the murders with appeals still working through the system, the Morris family continues their fight for justice.Through Mark's powerful firsthand account, we examine how this brutal crime forever changed multiple generations of a family, the painful realities of a justice system that moves at a glacial pace, and the resilience of those determined to ensure Edwin and Bessie Morris are never forgotten.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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HELP Us Choose The NEXT Murder Case To Investigate!
Send us Fan MailWe LOVE the response to out latest concept "3 Things" and have plans to do many more, but we really want ideas from our listeners and watchers!What cases would you like to talk about? Drop your suggestions on our YouTube Channel where this episode is under our Shorts playlist and subscribe to our YouTube channel while you are there!David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QDo you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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Unraveling the Mysteries: JonBenet Ramsey, Ransom Notes, and Investigative Missteps
Send us Fan MailMurder Police Podcast – JonBenét Ramsey Case: 3 Things In this gripping episode of The Murder Police Podcast, hosts Wendy and David explore the 2024 Netflix documentary Cold Case: JonBenét Ramsey and discuss three major aspects that stood out to them. The case, which remains one of America’s most infamous unsolved mysteries, continues to raise questions decades later. Wendy and David break down the complexities of the case by sharing their individual top three observations, ranging from the peculiar ransom note and its connection to the Ramsey family to the bizarre layout of the house and the law enforcement missteps that may have hindered the investigation. Their discussion highlights how new insights from the documentary have reshaped their perspectives and reinforced the importance of staying objective in investigations. The hosts also examine law enforcement’s handling of the case, including the premature release of critical details, biased narratives, and ethical concerns surrounding key investigators. They stress the impact of leaked information on public perception and how it may have compromised justice for JonBenét. This episode encourages listener engagement, inviting the audience to reflect on the case and share their thoughts. Whether you're a true crime enthusiast or new to the JonBenét Ramsey case, this discussion provides fresh insights into a case that has captivated the nation for decades.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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Never Forget Little Timmy | Part 8
Send us Fan MailHow do you cope when someone close to you disappears without a trace? On this episode of the Murder Police Podcast, we unravel the story of Little Timmy Sterner, whose sudden disappearance has left a family in Nicholasville in turmoil and desperate for answers. Briana Johnson, Timmy's cousin and our guest, shares her heartfelt memories of growing up with Timmy, painting a picture of the deep bond they shared. Through Bree's eyes, we get a glimpse into a family where Timmy was more than just a cousin; he was a brother and a protector, known for his mischievous spirit and fierce loyalty.As we venture further, we confront the tangled emotions that followed Timmy's disappearance. Bri opens up about the family's initial shock and their struggle to understand Timmy's association with the wrong crowd. Despite the pain, she emphasizes the unwavering love and pride Timmy had for his family. The narrative delves into the family's attempt to bring him back into the fold, only to be met with the chilling reality of his absence. As hints of foul play loom large, Bree describes the harsh impact of an unresolved loss that leaves their family in limbo, grappling with the unknown.Throughout our discussion, we stress the critical need for the community to keep Timmy's story alive and the hope for justice that fuels his family's search for answers. Bree's candid account serves as a poignant reminder of the fragility of life and the importance of cherishing our loved ones. We urge anyone with information to come forward, stressing the urgency for closure and healing. Join us as we stand in solidarity with Timmy's family, seeking answers and hoping to prevent another life from being lost to circumstance.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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Never Forget Little Timmy | Part 7
Send us Fan MailSearching for Little Timmy: A Journey of Hope, Despair, and Community StrengthWhat would you do if a loved one disappeared without a trace? This episode takes you into the emotional abyss experienced by Randall Smith as he shares the harrowing search for his missing friend, Little Timmy. Alongside Timmy's mother and sister, Randall recounts the psychological torment and haunting fears that overshadow each moment. Despite the growing dread and the mind's cruel tendency to conjure worst-case scenarios, there's an indomitable hope driving their relentless pursuit. Listen as we lay bare the sheer emotional weight of searching for a missing loved one and how it tests the limits of human endurance and the spirit of community.The search for Timmy, in a town clouded by whispers and scant clues, is nothing short of desperate. From raising financial rewards to unprecedented heights to offering a prized race car, every effort is made to shake loose any hidden truths. Yet, the silence remains deafening, taking an emotional toll on those closest to Timmy. As we discuss the gravity of the situation and the urgent need for information, the role of community support shines through as a beacon of hope. We reflect on personal sacrifices and the deep commitment to finding Timmy, underscoring how collective efforts could be the spark that finally brings him home.As we navigate the heartache of loss and the longing for justice, this episode also touches on the broader themes of redemption and change. We ponder the spiritual and moral complexities of living with the knowledge of wrongdoing, both for those directly involved and the broader community. While honoring Timmy's memory, the conversation transitions into the more hopeful aspects of seeking closure, emphasizing the power of truth and community in righting wrongs. With heartfelt stories and an unwavering call for justice, we invite you to join us in this poignant exploration of loss, redemption, and the unyielding hope for a better tomorrow.True Crime, Murder Police Podcast, Missing Persons, Little Timmy, Randall Smith, Friendship, Incarceration, Mystery, Investigation, Crime Stories, Prison Life, Brotherhood, Disappearance, Unsolved Mystery, Timmy Sterner, Emotional Testimony, Teen Friendship, Life Changes, Family Bonds, Suspenseful StorytellingDavid's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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Never Forget Little Timmy | Part 6
Send us Fan MailUnraveling Friendship: The Disappearance of Little Timmy SternerWhat if the friends you cherished from childhood suddenly disappeared into thin air? This episode, we sit with Randall Smith, a close friend of Little Timmy Sterner, to unravel the layers of friendship that withstand years of change and adversity. Randall shares colorful tales of laughter and adventure, from the quirky start of their friendship on the basketball court to their cherished school-time escapades. But as adulthood takes its toll, we face the bittersweet challenge of maintaining these bonds amidst life's demands, exploring the guilt and regret that come when opportunities to reconnect slip through our fingers.As we journey through the memories, the narrative takes an unexpected and emotional turn. Timmy's troubled past reemerges, with brushes against the law and the tumultuous path that led him to prison. The suspense heightens with the mysterious news of Timmy's disappearance after his release, leaving behind a trail of unanswered questions and heartache. Join us as we honor the story of a friendship tested by time, distance, and unforeseen circumstances, capturing the enduring impact of those who leave an indelible mark on our lives.True Crime, Murder Police Podcast, Missing Persons, Little Timmy, Randall Smith, Friendship, Incarceration, Mystery, Investigation, Crime Stories, Prison Life, Brotherhood, Disappearance, Unsolved Mystery, Timmy Sterner, Emotional Testimony, Teen Friendship, Life Changes, Family Bonds, Suspenseful StorytellingDavid's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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Never Forget Little Timmy | Part 5
Send us Fan MailThe Search for Justice in Timmy's CasePicture the heart-wrenching story of Timmy Sterner, a vibrant young man from Nicholasville, Kentucky, whose sudden disappearance has left a community in suspense. We begin with Cheyenne Brock, who shares her heartfelt recollections of growing up with Timmy, painting a vivid picture of their sibling-like bond. Their joyful reunion, filled with promises of future gatherings, took a poignant turn when Timmy vanished, leaving Cherished memories and unanswered questions in its wake.As the narrative unfolds, we explore the emotional impact on those closest to Timmy, including Cheyenne's personal account of their shared childhood adventures and the shock of learning he was missing. The pain of uncertainty resonates as she pleads for empathy and community action, hoping that someone will step forward with answers. Throughout the episode, we emphasize the importance of coming together to seek justice, highlighting the relentless efforts of Timmy's mother and friends to piece together the puzzle of his disappearance.Suspense builds as we revisit a chilling scene at a boat dock with family friend Billie Fain, where the discovery of Timmy's belongings and a suspicious encounter left an eerie feeling of unease. Despite the community's exhaustive search, challenging conditions persist, but hope remains alive. We urge listeners to join us in raising awareness and supporting the search for justice, reminding everyone that even the smallest piece of information can make a difference in solving this tragic mystery.Keywords:True Crime, Missing Person, Timmy Sterner, Nicholasville, Kentucky, Murder Police Podcast, Cheyenne Brock, Billie Fain, Family Loyalty, Community Involvement, Unsolved Mystery, Justice For Timmy, Podcast Interview, Emotional Testimony, Crime Investigation, Listener Discretion, Family Closure, Kentucky State Police, Anonymous Tips, Community Appeal, Podcast SeriesDavid's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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Never Forget Little Timmy | Part 4
Send us Fan MailWhat happens when a family is caught in the crossfire of misinformation and speculation? Join us as we unravel the emotional journey of Timothy Sterner's disappearance, guided by his uncle Terrance and grandmother Sandy. They share their personal battles against the tide of falsehoods and rumors, highlighting how these distractions have made an already painful situation nearly unbearable. From nightmarish tales of body mutilation to disturbing theories of secret burials, this episode sheds light on the critical importance of letting law enforcement operate without interference, stressing the need for truth amidst chaos and confusion.But the story doesn't end there. We shift focus to the power of community support in the face of tragedy. Discover the heartfelt efforts to keep Timmy's memory alive, from distributing poignant bumper stickers to fostering a collective yearning for justice and closure. We also discuss the profound moral weight carried by those who hold pieces of the puzzle, the inner turmoil of families left in limbo, and the shared belief that true justice may someday come from a higher power. It's a poignant exploration of the struggle to not become just another statistic and the relentless pursuit of answers.Finally, we reflect on the themes of resilience and redemption through Timmy's life and the struggles he faced. Through personal anecdotes and a touching letter from Timmy himself, we celebrate his determination to change, despite the adversities that shadowed him. This episode also introduces you to the Murder Police Podcast, a powerful platform hosted by Wendy and David Lyons, dedicated to honoring crime victims and preserving their stories. Subscribe, leave a review, and join us in supporting this meaningful mission of remembrance and justice.KeywordsTrue Crime, Missing Persons, Timothy Sterner, Murder Investigation, Family Interview, Crime Podcast, Justice For Victims, Law Enforcement, Community Impact, Crime Stories, Unsolved Mysteries, Family Closure, CrimeVictims, Podcast Episodes, Crime Scene, Investigation Process, Crime Theories, Emotional Impact, Community Support, Crime AwarenessDavid's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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Never Forget Little Timmy | Part 3
Send us Fan MailA young man's mysterious disappearance has left a community in turmoil and a family in search of answers. Timothy Sterner's story is one of heartache, resilience, and the relentless pursuit of truth. We are joined by his uncle Terrance and grandmother Sandy, who share not only personal stories and cherished memories of Timmy but also the immense void his absence has left in their lives. Sandy opens up about the role of faith and love in navigating through the darkest times, while Terrence recounts the joy of teaching Timmy to ride a motorcycle, a testament to Timmy's adventurous spirit.Timmy's life was a complex tapestry of challenges and hidden talents. Despite facing battles with substance abuse and trust issues, his prowess on the football field shone brightly. We discuss the pride his family felt when a coach recognized his potential, paving the way for moments of achievement that Timmy cherished, such as the excitement surrounding an award ceremony at school. Through these tales, we highlight the importance of guidance and support, underscoring the lasting impact Timmy had on those around him even in times of adversity.The search for Little Timmy remains fraught with frustration and unanswered questions. As Terrence outlines his ongoing quest for closure amid the discovery of Timmy's car near a wreck site, the emotional toll on the family becomes palpable. The community's efforts to piece together what happened are marred by a lack of cooperation from those last seen with Timmy, leaving a cloud of confusion and heartbreak that lingers. Join us as we capture the family's unwavering hope for resolution and peace in a community determined to uncover the truth.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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Never Forget Little Timmy | Part 2
Send us Fan MailIn this emotionally charged episode of The Murder Police Podcast, we continue to unravel the tragic story of Little Timmy Sterner. We are joined by his sister, Sabra VanWinkle, and his mother, Tammy Sterner, who share poignant memories and shed light on the events leading up to Timmy's mysterious disappearance.Sabra and Tammy paint a vivid picture of Timmy's life, from his love for video games and sports to his protective nature and deep family bonds. They recount cherished moments of Timmy's childhood, his passion for UK basketball, and his close relationship with his cousin, Josh Turner. The conversation takes a somber turn as they discuss the night of Timmy's disappearance, revealing a series of suspicious and conflicting details that leave more questions than answers.As the family grapples with the uncertainty and pain of not knowing Timmy's fate, they make a heartfelt plea to the community for information. They emphasize the importance of speaking up and doing the right thing, urging anyone with knowledge about Timmy's whereabouts to come forward.True Crime, Missing Person, Family Interview, Timmy Sterner, Crime Investigation, Kentucky River, Video Game Memories, UK Basketball Fan, Rodeo Stories, Car Accident Mystery, Phone Evidence, Rural Kentucky, Community Help, Family Loyalty, Protective Brother, Prison Letters, Searching For Answers, Emotional Testimony, Police Involvement, Unsolved CaseDavid's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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Never Forget Little Timmy | Part 1
Send us Fan MailWhat happens when hope turns into heartbreak, and the search for answers stretches into years? Join us as we bring you the harrowing story of Little Timmy Sterner through the intimate and heart-wrenching accounts of his father, Tim, and his father's girlfriend, Ashley Wethington. From the depths of grief to the highs of cherished memories, this episode peels back the layers of a family's pain and their relentless quest for closure. You’ll hear of Timmy's joyful childhood, his special bond with his grandfather, and his love for football, juxtaposed with the darker times when he lost his way and ended up in prison.Feel the raw emotion as Timmy's father shares the daily agony of his son's disappearance, reflecting on the struggles of maintaining a connection during incarceration and the heartache of re-entry into society. Ashley’s poignant perspective adds another layer, capturing the collective despair and the ripple effects of Timmy's absence on their family. This episode is not just a recounting of a tragic case but a heartfelt plea to the community for information, underscoring the power of collective support in seeking justice. Tune in and be part of this urgent call for answers, as we unite in the desperate hope for resolution.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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Goodbye Season 9, Hello Season 10!
Send us Fan MailSeason Ten Premiere!Welcome back to The Murder Police Podcast! As we bid farewell to Season Nine, we are thrilled to dive into Season Ten with renewed vigor and a fresh studio setup. In this episode, Wendy and David reflect on the journey so far and provide a sneak peek into the gripping cases that will be explored this season.Our hosts take a moment to reminisce about the impactful episodes of Season Nine, including the enlightening discussions on police polygraphs with Eddie Pearson and the role of a prosecutor with Louanna Red Corn. They also revisit the heart-wrenching case of Letha Rutherford, whose tragic story was meticulously covered in a six-part series.As we transition into Season Ten, Wendy and David introduce the haunting case of Timmy Sterner, a young man who went missing shortly after being released from incarceration. Through interviews with Timmy’s family and friends, this season aims to uncover the truth behind his mysterious disappearance and bring justice to his grieving loved ones.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QMini Bernedoodles for saleMini Bernedoodle puppies for sale.Do you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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Who Killed Letha? With Clifford Taylor
Send us Fan MailWhat happens when a community's hope clashes with the haunting void left by an unresolved tragedy? Experience the chilling narrative of "Who Killed Letha?" as we welcome Clifford Taylor to share his heartfelt memories and personal connection to the Taylor family. Clifford presents an intimate portrayal of Letha's life, from her childhood nurtured by parents with an indomitable work ethic to her tragic disappearance. He recounts their touching final encounter, where Letha revealed her plans for a fresh start by assisting the police and returning to school, painting a poignant picture of a life cut short too soon.Journey with us through the emotional labyrinth of the search for Letha Taylor, highlighted by Clifford's vivid recollections of the family's unity and the profound absence left by Letha's father, Hoghead. This episode uncovers the intense community efforts to find Letha, the disturbing whispers and rumors, and the grim discovery at the location where she was last seen. Clifford shares the complexities of conflicting stories and the persistent yearning for justice, encapsulating the heartache and relentless pursuit for truth in a case that continues to weigh heavily on all who knew Letha. Tune in to this gripping episode and join us in the quest to uncover the truth and seek justice for Letha Rutherford.David's book, True Crime and Consequences is FINALLY available!This book explores the intricate and often controversial relationship between the true crime community and law enforcement. For amateur sleuths, true crime fans, and social media detectives and cops everywhere.http://truecrimeconsequences.com/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5QDo you have your copy of David's book True Crime and Consequences? Get your copy today at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FBQ4BT5Q.See what you have been missing on YouTube!
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