The naturethrive podcast

Jonathan Withey welcomes listeners to episode 33 featuring a conversation with Ella Moseley, Director of Ecology at Pegasus Group. Ella describes her path into ecology through a physical geography degree in the UK and Australia, the value of gaining construction-side experience, and how Pegasus brought ecology in-house to complete a multidisciplinary offer and support clients from early land appraisals through post-consent delivery. They discuss biodiversity net gain (BNG) as a way to communicate value, guide development viability, and support placemaking, alongside ecosystem services examples such as natural flood management, hedgerows for carbon and biodiversity, and re-naturalising chalk streams. Ella shares first, worst, and best nature experiences, including childhood lizard-watching, handling habitat damage incidents, and releasing a rehabilitated tamandua in Guatemala.00:00 Welcome and Episode Setup01:46 Attenborough and Spring Notes03:04 Meet Ella in Soho03:27 Ella’s Ecology Career Path07:13 Field Trips and Early Nature08:50 Winning Hearts on Site11:35 What Is a Smooth Snake12:26 Why Pegasus Went In-House16:09 BNG as Business Language18:55 Ecosystem Services in Action23:32 Delivering BNG at Pegasus30:32 BNG for Placemaking35:34 First Nature Memories37:48 Worst Moments and Resilience42:00 Best Moments in the Wild45:31 Wrap-Up and TakeawaysSend us Fan Mail

Jonathan is joined in central London by Julia Baker of Mott MacDonald to discuss how nature services connect biodiversity, climate resilience, carbon, and social wellbeing, arguing that nature recovery is a solution society and the economy need. The conversation focuses on biodiversity net gain (BNG), especially for nationally significant infrastructure projects (NSIPs), including the government’s announcement that mandatory BNG for NSIPs will go live on 2 November 2026 and planned interim publications such as biodiversity gain statements, an updated metric user guide, and additional guidance. They explore mitigation hierarchy, stakeholder engagement, local nature recovery strategies, on-site versus off-site delivery, funding and corporate frameworks like TNFD, and Julia shares formative childhood and UK woodland experiences in nature.00:00 Spring Garden Update01:42 Bird Flu Reminder02:03 Meet Julia Baker04:06 Nature Services Big Picture08:56 Biodiversity as a Market13:27 TNFD and Funding Nature18:39 BNG and NSIPs Explained22:53 Making BNG Work Locally28:11 Future of BNG Policy31:16 Onsite vs Offsite Debate33:13 First Nature Memories38:45 Closing Thoughts OutroSend us Fan Mail

Jonathan Withey hosts a conversation with David Hill CBE, described as a key architect of Biodiversity Net Gain (BNG), discussing its origin from David’s experience in environmental impact assessment, his push from biodiversity offsetting to mandated BNG, and why voluntary adoption failed. David argues onsite BNG is ineffective and advocates professional, audited offsite habitat banks, noting BNG costs about 0.6% of gross development value and warning that exemptions, environmental delivery plans, and a levy-based Nature Restoration Fund could undermine private investment and market stability. He outlines his new venture, Foundation for Nature, a ratings agency for nature restoration projects using pillars of ecological integrity, financial security, governance, and community benefits. The episode also covers career advice, policy context, and David’s best and worst nature experiences, including concern over declining curlew populations.00:00 Podcast Welcome and Context02:10 Finding Hope in Nature03:13 Meet David Hill and Episode Preview05:20 Career Beginnings in Ecology07:38 Breaking Into the Industry Today08:52 Skills Volunteering and Higher Study13:27 The Origin of Biodiversity Net Gain18:43 Politics and the Economics of Nature22:34 How to Improve BNG Policy23:35 No Exemptions and Real Costs24:53 Why Environmental Delivery Plans Worry Him28:08 Levy Risks and Nature Restoration Fund28:27 Policy Scares Off Investors30:37 Why The Levy Fails32:13 Foundation For Nature Explained35:18 Corporate Biodiversity Reporting38:46 Ratings Pillars And Scoring42:24 Onsite Versus Offsite BNG45:42 First Nature Memories47:50 Best Wildlife Encounters49:37 Curlew Decline And Solutions52:41 Rewilding And Shifting Baselines55:41 Wrap Up And ReflectionsSend us Fan Mail

On this episode Jonathan Withey chats with Laurence Cummins, Sustainability Manager at Wates Group, who describes his path from a biology degree and applied research role into leading the nature strand of Wates’ environmental strategy. They discuss drivers behind Wates’ nature work, including the Nature Based Neighbourhoods programme and research with More in Common showing cross-political support for green spaces. Laurence outlines nature tech uses such as high-resolution satellite imagery and the need for a “green thread” of accessible project information to avoid biodiversity outcomes being lost through complex delivery chains, then they close with Laurence’s early nature memories and standout experiences, including seeing dolphins in Cornwall.00:00 Podcast Welcome Update01:07 BNG Market Momentum02:05 Meet Lawrence Waits04:38 Cafe Intro HiveTrackX05:41 Laurence's Career Journey09:33 Waits Nature Strategy13:48 Nature Based Neighborhoods16:52 Green Space Business Case19:37 Skills Capacity Challenges22:22 Nature Tech In Planning24:55 Policy Cuts Uncertainty25:31 Nature Tech Adoption Gap27:34 Project Complexity Needs Tech30:34 Green Thread Information33:03 People Not Just Process34:49 Childhood Nature Memories36:41 Nature Discomfort Moments38:27 Awe Struck Encounters41:24 Wrap Up ReflectionsSend us Fan Mail

In this episode host Jonathan  speaks with Joseph Gridley, CEO and founder of Soil Association Exchange, a for-profit arm distinct from the Soil Association charity, which helps companies and about 2,200 UK farms (around 4.5% of UK agricultural land) measure and improve environmental impacts through finance, advice, and simplified access to public and private funding options like SFI and other schemes. Gridley explains the business value for partners—supply chain resilience, credible field-level data for reporting, and stronger storytelling—and shares first, worst, and best nature experiences.00:00 Welcome and Episode Intro00:37 Life Updates and New Baby01:42 Nature Thrive Wins at Rankin Farm03:05 Why Soil Association Exchange Matters05:50 Meet Joseph in Peckham06:23 Jonathan’s Soil Story07:32 Joseph’s Career Journey11:49 Launching Soil Association Exchange13:00 How the Exchange Model Works16:44 Stacking Public and Private Funding19:44 Farmers, Trust, and Transition22:55 What Brands Get in Return24:04 Data, Reporting, and Storytelling28:36 First Memories in Nature31:27 Worst Nature Experience33:45 Best Nature Experience36:37 Wrap Up and Key TakeawaysSend us Fan Mail

On this episode Jonathan Withey hosts Peter Dorans, Business Development Director at the charity Plantlife. Peter shares his unconventional career path into the NGO environment sector, including roles in the civil service, New Zealand’s Ministry for the Environment, 15 years at The Wildlife Trusts, and moving to Plantlife to build commercial engagement in nature restoration. Plantlife was founded by botanists to address the lack of attention on plants and fungi and focuses on species-rich grasslands and the UK’s rare temperate rainforest, working mainly through partnerships rather than a large reserve estate. Peter explains Plantlife’s role as a Defra-designated responsible body for biodiversity net gain via conservation covenants, adding legal assurance and long-term monitoring to restoration. They discuss workplace nature, wellbeing benefits, and Peter’s best and worst nature experiences.00:00 Podcast Welcome Updates02:23 Meet Plantlife Focus03:41 Pete Career Journey09:33 Plantlife Mission Habitats14:27 Why Restore Nature15:58 Everyday Nature Business Sites24:12 BNG Responsible Body Explained29:34 Cathedral Thinking Long Term30:18 Best Worst Nature Stories36:38 Wrap Up Listener TakeawaysSend us Fan Mail

In this episode Jonathan interviews Nick White, Principal Adviser for Net Gain at Natural England, about his career path into biodiversity work and his 14-year involvement in developing biodiversity net gain (BNG). Nick explains how Brexit created a political window to help get BNG onto the national agenda and ultimately enshrined into law, and discusses BNG’s global influence, including international uptake of the metric. They explore what natural capital means, why habitats are used as a practical proxy for biodiversity, and how environmental net gain seeks to capture wider ecosystem benefits beyond wildlife value. The conversation also covers the importance of numbers for business decision-making, the need to ensure long-term on-the-ground outcomes, and Nick’s first, best, and worst experiences in nature.00:00 Welcome and Guest Intro03:11 Setting the Scene04:03 Nick’s Career Journey06:28 Brexit and Policy Window07:54 From Idea to Global Impact10:39 Supply Demand and Trust12:12 Natural Capital Explained14:58 Keeping BNG Simple18:44 Environmental Net Gain20:46 Private Sector Motivation21:06 Beyond Compliance Value23:09 Metrics That Move Money24:14 Making the Business Case26:06 How BNG Should Evolve29:09 Nature and Development Together29:56 First Memory Fishing32:29 Worst Night Exercise34:20 Best Moments in Nature35:57 Everyone Can Act38:14 Host Wrap and Next GuestsSend us Fan Mail

On this episode Jonathan frames the conversation as a focus on Anglia Water’s work for nature recovery and biodiversity, while acknowledging wider water industry challenges around drinking water, sewage treatment, and infrastructure. Angus explains Anglia Water’s geographic coverage (from the Humber Estuary to the Thames Estuary and inland to Northamptonshire) and discusses work across the UK’s driest region, including river restoration, slowing flows, habitat creation and some wetland creation as part of catchment management, alongside future-focused initiatives like desalination plants and new reservoirs. Angus shares his career path from studying geography and management at the University of Leeds into practical woodland management, then environmental land management at the 11,000-hectare Auburn Wise estate, before joining Anglia Water in April. The episode explores land sharing vs land sparing, including agroforestry projects integrating nature corridors within arable farming and the role of agri-environment schemes and emerging biodiversity net gain markets as income streams. Angus outlines key drivers for Anglia Water’s biodiversity work, including the Water Industry National Environment Programme (WINEP) within AMP8 (2025–2030) and the new Biodiversity Performance Commitment requiring measurable habitat unit uplift using the biodiversity metric on a four-year cycle (2025 baseline to 2029 reassessment), with penalties for non-delivery. He also notes Anglia Water’s obligations as a significant landholder managing many SSSIs—about 99% by area in favourable condition—while continuing to improve remaining sites. Angus highlights a project at Grafham Water near Huntingdon, linking fragmented ancient woodlands with woodland creation and grassland along reservoir shores to improve connectivity and resilience for woodland species. In the recurring segment, Angus shares early memories growing up on a rural farm, his worst experience of seeing habitat reverted to arable despite efforts to influence decisions, and best experiences including delivering a 40–50 hectare agroforestry project in Norfolk and cycling from east Norfolk to southwest Wales to experience landscapes at a slower pace. Jonathan closes by emphasizing the importance of recognizing positive work within water companies and previews a future episode with Nick White of Natural England.00:00 Welcome + What This Episode Will (and Won’t) Cover01:34 Meet Angus Wells: Shared Backgrounds & Why This Story Matters03:19 Anglia Water’s Region & Big-Picture Catchment Work (Wetlands, Reservoirs, Resilience)05:04 Angus’s Career Journey: From Practical Woodland Work to Anglia Water07:27 Land Sharing vs Land Sparing: Making Nature Work in Productive Farmland10:52 Why Water Companies Invest in Nature: AMP8, WINEP & Regulatory Drivers15:08 Measuring Biodiversity Uplift: Performance Commitment, Habitat Units & 4-Year Targets19:30 SSSIs & Flagship Project: Grafham Water Woodland Connectivity22:08 Why Habitat Corridors Matter: Resilience, Movement & Genetic Diversity25:05 First / Worst / Best in Nature: Early Memories, Career Frustrations & Agroforestry Wins34:26 Wrap-Up + Host Reflections and What’s Next on the PodcastSend us Fan Mail

On this episode Jonathan has a conversation with Peter Rogers, co-founder of Lipton Rogers and former co-founder of Stanhope. They discuss Rogers’ long career in commercial and residential development, including insights into 22 Bishopsgate (“22B”), designed as a “vertical village” with shared amenities such as restaurants, bars, gyms, art in the lobby, and community-focused spaces to offset limited ground-level public realm. Rogers shares how he got into construction through early exposure to his grandfather’s development work in Italy, his civil engineering background, and his belief that people should find work they enjoy. The conversation covers industry challenges such as increasing bureaucracy, planning complexity, rising costs, slow innovation, and the impact of legislation like the Building Safety Act, as well as the role of AI and robotics. Rogers explains his long-standing focus on creating places for people with landscaping and greenery, critiques greenwashing (including green walls and token rooftop measures), and argues for investing in larger-scale, properly maintained parks and biodiversity projects rather than small on-building interventions. They also discuss biodiversity net gain and the value of practical, local, measurable interventions, drawing parallels with approaches like insulating homes for carbon benefits. In the recurring nature segment, Rogers recounts early alpine experiences skiing and staying in remote huts, a safari in the Kalahari Desert, and a “worst” experience at sea involving increasingly severe Mediterranean storms, which he links to warming sea temperatures and global warming.00:00 Welcome Back + Newborn Night Shift Story01:16 Meet Peter Rogers: Iconic City of London Developer & Green Building Pioneer04:22 Deep Dive: 22 Bishopsgate’s ‘Vertical Village’ Concept06:13 Inside the Building: Lobby Art, Amenities & Tenant Community08:57 Peter’s Origin Story: From Italy to Civil Engineering & Contracting11:06 Career Advice at 80: Find Work You Love + Start Early14:41 Industry Headwinds: Bureaucracy, Rising Costs & Slow Innovation17:32 Planning Reform, Building Safety Act & Unintended Consequences of Regulation18:52 Energy Efficiency vs Overheating: Futureproofing Buildings in a Warming Climate19:43 Safe Homes vs Enough Homes: Finding the Balance20:50 Designing Developments as Places: Greenery, Parks & Wellbeing22:08 Calling Out Greenwashing: Why Tiny Green Walls Don’t Move the Dial23:11 Biodiversity Net Gain Reality Check: On‑Site Rules vs Landscape‑Scale Impact26:31 Health & Safety vs Biodiversity: What Legislation Can (and Can’t) Fix28:57 First Nature Memories: Ski Touring to Alpine Huts & Wild Quiet31:44 Best Experience: Kalahari Desert Safari and Life in Harsh Landscapes33:16 Worst Experience: Mediterranean Storms, Sailing Risk & Climate Change Signals37:03 Wrapping Up: Ocean Warming, Seagrass Decline & Final TakeawaysSend us Fan Mail

In this episode Jonathan dives into a captivating conversation with Edward Pollard, founder of Positive by Nature. Edward shares insights on sustainability, nature recovery, and biodiversity, drawing from his extensive experience in the field. Learn about the interconnectedness of climate and nature, the importance of business resilience, and the exciting projects driving nature conservation forward. Edward also shares memorable personal stories from his career, highlighting the crucial role of both local action and global cooperation in preserving our natural world. This episode provides a rich exploration of the many facets of nature recovery, making it a must-listen for anyone passionate about the environment.00:00 Welcome to Season Two00:37 Personal Updates and Reflections02:01 Challenges in Sustainability03:16 Nature Thrive's Mission and Projects07:42 Interview with Edward Pollard11:33 Edward's Career Journey16:06 Understanding Nature Positive20:17 Corporate Action on Biodiversity25:10 Business Case for Nature Conservation27:44 Investor Pressure on Corporate Responsibility29:06 Resilience and Risk in Supply Chains30:26 Collaborative Approaches to Sustainable Supply Chains32:28 Challenges and Successes in Landscape-Level Conservation35:08 Regulatory and Policy Impacts on Conservation41:25 Personal Experiences in Nature51:28 Concluding Thoughts and Future DirectionsSend us Fan Mail

In this episode host Jonathan sits down with Connell Grogan, co-founder of Nature Impact, to discuss the significance of biodiversity net gain policy, the creation of offsite habitat banks, and how an entrepreneurial spirit can drive nature recovery in the UK. They delve into the policy's impact, the importance of offsite versus onsite biodiversity enhancements, and innovative approaches like the upcoming nature credit offerings. Connell shares insights from his career, the journey of Nature Impact, and personal stories highlighting the profound connection with nature. Tune in for a deep dive into biodiversity, policy, and entrepreneurial efforts to restore the natural world.00:00 Welcome to the Nature Thrive Podcast Finale00:22 Introducing Connell Grogan and Nature Impact01:19 The Importance of Biodiversity Net Gain02:13 Challenges and Opportunities in Nature Recovery08:06 Connell Grogan's Career Journey15:38 The Mission and Model of Nature Impact24:40 The Role of Developers in Biodiversity Net Gain26:44 The Importance of Connected Green Spaces27:33 Challenges in Landscape Architecture28:14 Onsite vs. Offsite Biodiversity Efforts30:09 Local Planning Authorities and Biodiversity31:11 Supporting Small Developers32:38 The Future of Nature Credits39:03 Personal Experiences in Nature47:12 Conclusion and ReflectionsSend us Fan Mail

In this episode host Jonathan speaks with Nick Wenman, owner of Albury Vineyard in the Surrey Hills. Nick shares his transition from the IT world to cultivating vines for certified organic wine production in the UK, while adopting biodynamic principles. The conversation delves into the challenges and rewards of organic viticulture, the commercial benefits of sustainability, and the importance of reconnecting with nature. Nick also discusses the significance of introducing educational and nature-friendly practices into his vineyard operations. This episode offers valuable insights into sustainable farming and the commercial viability of eco-friendly practices. Tune in to learn more about Nick's passion for nature, his vineyard's success, and the role of sustainability in modern farming.00:00 Welcome to the Nature Thrive Podcast00:21 Introducing Nick and Aubrey Vineyard01:15 The Importance of Commercial Benefits in Sustainability03:05 Nick's Journey from IT to Viticulture06:28 Challenges and Rewards of Organic Farming08:42 Biodynamic Principles and Practices12:31 Impact of Climate Change on Viticulture14:47 The Business of Running a Vineyard16:02 Educational and Environmental Initiatives25:28 First, Best, and Worst Experiences in Nature32:31 Concluding Thoughts and ReflectionsSend us Fan Mail

In this episode Jonathan has a conversation with Helen Nyul, former Head of Biodiversity at Barratt Redrow, who recently transitioned to a new role at the nature tech startup, Verna. Helen shares her career journey, the impact of nature-rich housing developments, and the essential role of biodiversity in business and the economy. We discuss successful projects like Kingsbrook and the value of biodiversity action plans. Don't miss the engaging stories and practical insights on how both developers and individuals can reconnect with nature. 00:00 Introduction and Podcast Overview00:37 Guest Introduction: Helen Mule's Career Journey02:14 Helen's Transition to Verna03:47 Jonathan's Nostalgic Moment04:44 Helen's Career Pathway08:06 Biodiversity Action Plans and Business Impact19:00 Barrett's Approach to Sustainability23:34 Innovative Wildlife-Friendly Developments23:54 The Decline of Nature in Popular Culture24:46 Future Homes Hub and Biodiversity Net Gain25:08 The Impact of Biodiversity Policies on Developers27:44 The Global Perspective on Biodiversity Net Gain29:01 Mitigation Hierarchy in Site Development30:53 Challenges and Opportunities in Biodiversity Net Gain34:34 Personal Experiences and Reflections on Nature41:23 Final Thoughts on Biodiversity and Nature RecoverySend us Fan Mail

In this episode Jonathan has a conversation with Philippa Birch-Wood, the former Executive Director for ESG at Chetwoods and now Head of Climate Action at the UK Green Building Council. They delve into the critical role of architecture in enhancing connections with nature and promoting sustainability. Learn about Chatwood's Thrive Design approach and Phillipa's career journey into sustainability, her insightful experiences in nature, and the importance of integrating biophilic designs in modern buildings. 00:00 Introduction to the Nature Thrive Podcast00:52 Key Themes of the Conversation03:21 Phillipa's Career Journey04:36 The Role of Sustainability in Architecture10:12 Thrive Design and Its Impact21:56 Nature's Increasing Role in Design26:24 First, Best, and Worst Experiences in Nature31:28 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsSend us Fan Mail

In this episode Jonathan  engages in an insightful conversation with Simon Kennedy, Associate Director of Wates Wild Scape. They discuss the formation and mission of Wates Wild Scape by the Wates Group, an over-a-century-old  construction and development company in the UK. The episode covers key themes such as natural capitalism, nature markets, biodiversity net gain, nutrient neutrality, and sustainable alternative natural green spaces (SANGs). Simon shares his career journey, the importance of monetising nature-based solutions, and how these initiatives contribute to creating sustainable futures. The episode also delves into the broader impacts of development on nature and the exciting projects Wates Wild Scape is undertaking to address these issues. Join us for an engaging discussion that highlights the intersection of capitalism, policy, and environmental sustainability.00:00 Introduction to the Naturethrive Podcast03:43 Meet Simon Kennedy: Associate Director at Wates Wild Scape06:37 Understanding Nutrient Neutrality10:49 Exploring Wates Wild Scape and Its Mission19:45 The Importance of Sustainable Urban Green Spaces27:39 Personal Reflections on Nature35:16 Conclusion and Call to ActionSend us Fan Mail

In this episode Jonathan talks to Louisa Harris, founder of Curiously Liminal and a coach for change-makers in sustainability. Louisa shares her unique career journey in sustainability, from her beginnings influenced by climate activism to her roles in organisations like Grant Thornton. She discusses the current state and transitions within sustainability and ESG, emphasising the importance of integrating emotional connections with data-driven decisions. Louisa also highlights her current projects and the significant role of nature in sustainability. This episode is particularly insightful for those interested in making meaningful changes in the sustainability sector.00:00 Introduction to the Nature Thrive Podcast00:23 Meet Louisa Harris: A Year of Experimentation01:18 The State of Sustainability in 202501:33 Career Paths in Sustainability04:46 Louisa's Journey into Sustainability07:17 Early Career and Carbon Auditing08:55 Building Sustainability at Grant Thornton10:09 Leadership and Systems Change11:30 Pandemic and Teaching at CISL11:52 Brand Work and Sustainability21:11 The Role of Nature in Sustainability24:45 Rethinking Organizational Boundaries25:28 The Joy of Rewilding25:44 Concerns About the New Nature Language27:28 Quantifying Nature and Biodiversity29:49 Coaching and Nature's Principles32:02 Innovations in Service Design34:00 Experiments with Sustainable Compost39:04 Personal Reflections on Nature42:53 Profound Experiences in Nature45:32 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsSend us Fan Mail

In this episode, Jonathan sits down with Alister, the executive director of the Global Rewilding Alliance, to explore his path to leadership in the rewilding movement. Alister shares his background, from growing up in rural Ireland to his long career in environmental advocacy and coaching. They discuss the core principles of rewilding, the impact of reintroducing animals on ecological restoration, and the global reach and influence of the Global Rewilding Alliance. Alistair also shares personal anecdotes about his early experiences in nature, challenges faced, and the transformative moments that shaped his connection to the environment. This engaging conversation delves deep into the science, challenges, and inspiring success stories of rewilding efforts around the world.00:00 Introduction and Greetings00:33 Alister's Journey to the Global Rewilding Alliance01:27 Early Influences and Epiphanies04:02 Instinctive Rewilding and Career Path06:42 Defining Rewilding13:12 Global Rewilding Efforts and Success Stories18:46 Rewilding's Impact on Employment and Communities20:59 The Innate Connection to Nature22:31 Maintaining Positive Momentum in Environmental Communication22:47 The Power of Positive Storytelling in Rewilding25:02 The Impact of News Consumption on Mental Health27:59 Introduction to the Global Rewilding Alliance30:17 The Three Pillars of the Global Rewilding Alliance35:21 First, Best, and Worst Experiences in Nature43:26 Concluding Thoughts and ReflectionsSend us Fan Mail

In this episode we delve into the fascinating world of gardens and tree plantations with George Hillier, Chair of the Hillier Garden Centres Group. This episode highlights the history of Hillier Garden Centres, founded in 1864, and their innovative approach to growing mature and semi-mature trees. George shares insights on the importance of gardening for connecting with nature, the evolution of garden spaces, and their commitment to climate resilience. Additionally, the 'Uncover Recover' project, which aims to revert hard-standing spaces back to nature, is discussed, along with the significance of holding a Royal Warrant. Join us for an enriching conversation as George also recounts his personal 'first, best, and worst' experiences in nature.00:00 Welcome to the Nature Thrive Podcast00:49 The Role of Garden Centers in Connecting with Nature03:46 History and Evolution of Hillier Garden Centers07:40 The Importance of British Grown Trees08:58 Adapting to Climate Change12:24 The Garden Center Experience19:59 Encouraging Biodiversity in Gardens22:21 Royal Warrant and Sustainability24:41 Introduction to the Uncover Recover Project25:26 The Impact of Hard Standing on Biodiversity27:23 The Uncover Recover Initiative Explained30:18 Psychological and Business Benefits of Uncover Recover31:50 Challenges and Adaptability of the Project34:54 Personal Reflections on Nature35:25 George Hillier's Early Experiences in Nature37:51 The Legacy of Plant Hunting42:58 Memorable Moments in Nature46:16 Conclusion and Call to ActionSend us Fan Mail

This episode is a conversation with Joe Stanley, a prominent figure in the UK agricultural community. Joe shares insights from his experience as a farmer and influencer in the agricultural space. We discuss the significant challenges faced by farmers today, including climate change, fair compensation, and sustainable practices. The episode also delves into the importance of water, soil health, and the economic pressures on the farming industry. Joe provides an in-depth look at the Allerton Project, a working farm demonstrating sustainable farming practices. Tune in for a rich conversation on building resilient farming businesses and the critical role of farmers in our society.00:00 Introduction to the Nature Thrive Podcast00:30 Meet Joe Stanley: The Farming Influencer01:30 Challenges in Modern Farming03:46 The Allerton Project: Sustainable Farming12:41 Water: The Next Big Environmental Challenge17:58 Economic Realities of Farming21:37 The True Cost of Food Waste22:01 Economic Pressures on Food Prices22:43 Farmers' Financial Struggles23:56 Diversifying Farm Income27:55 Biodiversity Net Gain: A Potential Solution?32:20 Best and Worst Experiences in Nature35:50 Reflecting on Agricultural Challenges38:44 Closing Thoughts and Key StatisticsSend us Fan Mail

This episode discuss the evolving role of biodiversity in the UK housing sector. This insightful episode explores the impact of policy changes, such as biodiversity net gain (BNG), on the UK's largest housebuilder, Bellway Homes. Neil shares his expertise on integrating biodiversity into housing projects, the challenges and opportunities faced by developers, and the importance of collaboration between the commercial and conservation communities. Tune in for a compelling conversation that highlights how structured and deliverable policies can make a tangible difference to the environment.00:00 Introduction and Episode Overview00:28 Meet Neil Beamsley: Head of Biodiversity at Beltway Homes00:59 The Importance of Biodiversity in Housing Development01:21 Challenges and Opportunities in Biodiversity Net Gain (BNG)02:22 Technical Challenges and Podcast Setup03:05 Neil Beamsley's Career Path04:56 Understanding Biodiversity Net Gain (BNG)08:51 Legislation and Local Authority Roles in Biodiversity18:47 Onsite vs. Offsite Biodiversity Strategies22:38 The Role of Conservation Charities and Developers29:36 Personal Experiences and Reflections on Nature35:30 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsSend us Fan Mail

This episode welcomes Steve Malkin, founder and CEO of Planet Mark, a leading sustainability and net-zero certification company. Having spent six years with Planet Mark, Jonathan brings an insider's perspective on their mission to help organizations measure and reduce their carbon footprints and transition to net zero.This episode delves into how Planet Mark makes climate action accessible and commercially viable for businesses. They discuss the critical role of a well-planned and costed net-zero strategy and how Planet Mark fosters a supportive community for companies committed to climate action. The conversation also explores the vital connection between climate and nature, highlighting nature's role in providing solutions and making sustainability more tangible.Steve Malkin shares his inspiring vision for Planet Mark, which he founded on the belief that businesses can lead the charge toward a low and net-zero future. His positive and business-focused approach to sustainability offers a refreshing contrast to traditional "gloom and doom" narratives. The podcast also touches on how Planet Mark incorporates nature into its certification, creating direct connections with organizations like the Eden Project and Cool Earth.The episode was recorded outdoors in sunny Kent, immersing listeners in the sounds of nature, including birdsong, enhancing the podcast's theme.Send us Fan Mail

This episode discusses biodiversity net gain (BNG) with Claire Linley, Planning Director, and Elsie Hargate, Sustainability Manager at Strata Homes, a leading UK housebuilder. They explore Strata's commitment to sustainability, evidenced by their "homes that make the heart beat faster" ethos and their proactive nature and biodiversity policy.The conversation delves into the opportunities and challenges of BNG, particularly the complexities of its implementation. Claire and Elsie discuss the differing impacts on brownfield versus greenfield sites and the inconsistencies in application by local authorities. They highlight the benefits of BNG in creating a more level playing field for developers committed to environmental considerations, while also pointing out the ongoing "teething problems" with its delivery mechanisms.A key topic is the "on-site versus off-site" debate regarding BNG credits. Claire explains the rationale for off-site solutions when they offer greater ecological benefit, despite current regulations sometimes disincentivizing this. Elsie emphasizes the importance of both approaches, especially when on-site efforts can create valuable wildlife corridors. They also touch on the long-term management of BNG areas and how Strata Homes engages residents through initiatives like hedgehog highway leaflets to foster a connection with nature on their developments.Jonathan also shares a quote from "Wild Service: Why Nature Needs Us" by Nick Hayes and John Moses, emphasizing nature's role in human well-being and community. He also gives a shout-out to Spotify Premium for its growing collection of nature-themed audiobooks.Send us Fan Mail

This episode of the naturethrive Podcast we dive into the evolving landscape of sustainability and nature reporting with our insightful guest, Marina Bradford. Founder of the consultancy Bemari, Marina brings a wealth of experience in helping organisations understand and address their environmental impact. We explore whether the increasing focus on nature by businesses is a passing trend or a fundamental shift, and how it interlinks with climate action. Marina shares her fascinating journey into this field, from her background in audit and risk management to establishing her own consultancies. We discuss the changing cultural attitudes towards sustainability across different global regions and within corporate environments, examining how these perspectives influence action. We also unpack the evolution of language in the sustainability space, from CSR to ESG and beyond, and demystify the crucial concept of double materiality. Finally, we delve into why nature and biodiversity are gaining prominence and how we can make these vital conversations more accessible to a wider audience.Send us Fan Mail

This episode features Andrew, CEO of BNGX, explaining how their digital platform simplifies Biodiversity Net Gain (BNG) for developers and landowners. Discover how BNG policy aims to reverse nature decline and how BNGX streamlines the process of buying and selling registered offsite biodiversity units, ensuring efficiency, transparency, and trust in this emerging market. Andrew also shares a nostalgic early memory of nature.Send us Fan Mail

This episode of the naturethrive Podcast features a fascinating conversation with Benjamin Tompkins from Hive Tracks, a nature tech company revolutionising biodiversity data collection. They delve into the meaning of "ground truth" data and how Hive Tracks makes it easy for anyone, from beekeepers to community members, to collect real-time, continuous information on plant and pollinator species. Benjamin shares his journey into the nature tech space and explains Hive Tracks' innovative approach, including their app that gamifies data collection and their work with industries like development and agriculture to utilise this data for biodiversity net gain and genuine nature recovery, ultimately aiming to create a scalable and impactful understanding of our biodiversity and how to help it to recover.Send us Fan Mail

Native partners with indigenous guardians to protect the planet, offering individuals and companies the opportunity to protect or restore nature one "native square" (three meters squared) at a time. They provide a map to visualize protected squares and a dashboard to track the impact on carbon, biodiversity, and the community.Send us Fan Mail

In this episode with speak to Nigel Riddle of Wrangcombe Farm in Somerset.The conversation delves into the diverse habitats at Wrangcombe Farm, which includes open heathland (a SSSI site), improved open grassland, steep-sided wooded streams called "goyles," marshy and dry fields, and even an area with alkaline soil from a former scramble track. Nigel emphasises the existing biodiversity of the site, describing it as "half wilded." He highlights the lack of public footpaths, contributing to a feeling of wilderness and increased wildlife, including nightjars and curlews on the top heathland.They also discuss naturethrive's first Biodiversity Net Gain (BNG) project across the fields to the east of the site.Send us Fan Mail

In this episode we speak to Molly Biddell of Knepp Estate in Sussex.Molly discusses Knepp's journey from a struggling conventional farm to a thriving nature restoration site, driven by the principles of rewilding and the introduction of free-roaming herbivores. She explains her role in exploring the ecosystem services provided by the land and developing business cases for nature restoration. The conversation covers the differences between rewilding and managed habitat restoration, the potential of Biodiversity Net Gain (BNG) as a policy to fund nature recovery, and the challenges and opportunities facing farmers in a changing agricultural landscape. Molly also shares personal anecdotes about her connection to nature, including childhood tree-climbing adventures and a challenging but ultimately rewarding cycling experience. The episode highlights the importance of making nature accessible, the need to integrate nature restoration into economic models, and the hopeful potential for symbiotic relationships between humans and the natural world.Send us Fan Mail

In this episode we speak to Tom Church and Hazel Towler of Scald End Farm in Bedfordshire. They discuss the challenges and opportunities facing farmers today, particularly regarding nature restoration and diversification.Tom and Hazel share their personal stories of getting into farming and the farm's transition from arable to organic livestock farming. They explain the process and benefits of converting to pasture, including increased biodiversity and the return of farmland birds. They also delve into the complexities of environmental subsidy schemes, highlighting their importance for farm resilience while also expressing concerns about their long-term security.The conversation explores the couple's entrepreneurial approach to diversifying income streams, including rental cottages and a farm shop (now transitioning to commercial let), emphasizing the need for financial stability in the face of fluctuating market prices and disease outbreaks. They discuss the farming community's varying attitudes towards diversification and environmental schemes, acknowledging the skepticism of some while recognizing the growing openness of younger generations. The challenges of navigating land options and the impact of national infrastructure projects on farmland are also addressed.The episode touches on the controversial topic of reintroducing apex predators like lynx and wolves, with Tom expressing a nuanced view, acknowledging potential benefits while also considering the risks to livestock and other wildlife. The discussion also covers the reintroduction of beavers and the potential ecological and societal impacts.Finally, Tom and Hazel share their "first, best, worst" nature experiences. Hazel recounts childhood memories of playing in a bluebell wood, while Tom describes a cherished recent memory of a campfire gathering with his son and other children in a small woodland (a "spinny"). Hazel's "worst" experience highlights the challenges of managing wet fields, particularly their impact on ground-nesting birds, and the delicate balance of nature. The podcast concludes with a reflection on the importance of farmers as key stakeholders in nature restoration and the mission to make such efforts profitable for all.Send us Fan Mail

In this episode we speak to Andrew Griffiths, Director of Policy and Partnerships at Planetmark, a sustainability and net-zero certification scheme. The discussion revolves around the intrinsic connection between nature and climate, emphasizing that solving one crisis is impossible without addressing the other. Griffiths explains Planetmark's role in helping organizations measure and reduce carbon emissions, highlighting the challenges of decarbonization and the importance of policy and partnerships in driving sustainability.We explore the parallels between climate action and nature conservation, stressing that biodiversity collapse poses an existential threat alongside climate change. Andrew shares examples of how ecosystems, like the reintroduction of wolves in Yellowstone, demonstrate the interconnectedness of nature. He also discusses the importance of protecting natural carbon sinks, such as oceans and rainforests, and the risks of reaching tipping points that could lead to irreversible damage.The episode concludes with Andrew sharing personal experiences in nature, including a memorable sunset in New Zealand and the sobering impact of witnessing coral bleaching and plastic pollution during a dive. These stories underscore the fragility of natural systems and the urgent need for conservation efforts.Overall, the episode blends policy insights, environmental science, and personal anecdotes to highlight the critical interplay between climate action and nature preservation.Send us Fan Mail

In this episode we speak with Richard, an environmental lawyer at Freeths LLP, about environmental legislation and in particular Biodiversity Net Gain (BNG) in the UK. Richard discusses the legal framework of BNG, its potential to drive nature recovery, and the challenges and opportunities associated with its implementation. He also shares personal anecdotes about his experiences with nature, from childhood memories in the Malaysian rainforest to a challenging hiking expedition.Send us Fan Mail

In this episode we speak with Simon, an Advisor at the UK Green Building Council, about Biodiversity Net Gain (BNG) and the role of nature in the built environment. Simon discusses his work on decarbonizing buildings, the challenges and opportunities of BNG, and shares his personal experiences with nature, from childhood memories to awe-inspiring encounters in the Norwegian wilderness.Send us Fan Mail

Farmers are key stakeholders in the nature restoration space.Alec Clouting is a young farmer managing 200 acres of farmland in Surrey and we discuss who we strike a balance between growing the food that we need and helping nature to recover and thrive.Send us Fan Mail