PODCAST · sports
The Press Box
by The Ringer
The Ringer’s Bryan Curtis, David Shoemaker and Joel Anderson catch you up on the biggest media stories, from sports to politics and everything in between.
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Rupert Murdoch vs. the NFL, The Daily Wire’s Fade, and Spencer Pratt for L.A. Mayor
Today on The Press Box, Bryan and David start by talking stand-up comedy, specifically Bryan’s time at the Netflix Is a Joke Festival. Then they talk about what’s going on with the NFL TV rights negotiations (12:30), The Daily Wire fading away (24:33), Draymond Green vs. Charles Barkley (31:13), and much more. Then Bryan is joined by Politico’s California bureau chief, Melanie Mason, to talk about the Los Angeles mayoral race and the California gubernatorial race (47:31). Plus, the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week, and David Shoemaker Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline! Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David ShoemakerGuest: Melanie MasonProducers: Bruce Baldwin, Isaiah Blakely, and Jamie Yukich Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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The GOP Depth Chart With Van Lathan
Today on The Press Box, Joel is in L.A. with Bryan, and they are joined by Van Lathan Jr. He’s back this time to run through his GOP nominee depth chart. They discuss all types of potential candidates, including members of the current administration, former contenders (22:08), up-and-comers, outsiders (52:35), and more. Then, at the end, Van reveals who he thinks will most likely be the nominee (1:09:13). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel AndersonGuest: Van Lathan Jr.Producers: Bruce Baldwin, Chris Thomas, Isaiah Blakely, and Jacob Cornett Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Remembering Ted Turner, the Man Who Owned the Media, With Jason Gay
Today on The Press Box, Bryan is joined by The Wall Street Journal’s Jason Gay to discuss Ted Turner's legacy following his death at the age of 87. They talk about the creation of CNN (8:40), what he meant in the world of sports (19:43), how his legacy will carry on (32:49), and much more. Host: Bryan CurtisGuest: Jason GayProducers: Bruce Baldwin, Isaiah Blakely, and Sarah Reddy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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A Murdoch Eyes ‘New York,’ and the ‘Times’ Lawsuit. Plus: Bill Carter on Colbert, Kimmel, and the Last Chapter of Late Night.
Today on The Press Box, Bryan and David talk about oxpeckers in the media. They talk about the news of James Murdoch being in talks to buy parts of Vox Media and New York Magazine (11:03). Then, they talk about Trump almost giving a press conference in front of a bunch of golf reporters (26:13). They also discuss Adam Mockler vs. Scott Jennings(28:58), Tucker Carlson (32:02), some sports TV updates (37:54), and much more. Later, Bryan is joined by writer Bill Carter to talk about late-night comedy shows. They talk about the end of Stephen Colbert’s show, Jimmy Kimmel fighting cancellation, and more (49:43). Plus, David Shoemaker Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline! Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David ShoemakerGuest: Bill CarterProducers: Bruce Baldwin, Donald LoBianco, and Isaiah Blakely Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Reporters Vs. Influencers at the Correspondents’ Dinner, a Senate Candidate’s Old Tweets, and Katie Baker from the Musk-Altman Trial
Today on The Press Box, Bryan and David start with some follow-up stories on the Russini-Vrabel situation before talking more about the White House Correspondents' Dinner and the work reporters and influencers did at the event (13:12). They also discuss a Michigan Senate candidate's old tweets (28:33), another attempt at cancelling Jimmy Kimmel (38:42), and more. Then, Bryan is joined by Katie Baker, who is at the Elon Musk-Sam Altman trial and walks us through her observations of the proceedings (54:06). Plus, the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week, and David Shoemaker Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline! Read Katie Baker’s piece about the trial here. Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David ShoemakerGuest: Katie BakerProducers: Bruce Baldwin, Isaiah Blakely, Jamie Yukich, and Sarah Reddy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Anna Wintour, the Age of Magazines, and ‘The Devil Wears Prada 2’ with Amanda Dobbins
On today’s bonus episode of The Press Box, Bryan is joined by Amanda Dobbins to discuss Anna Wintour and the upcoming movie 'The Devil Wears Prada 2.' Amanda provides a spoiler-free review of the movie. Then, they discuss Wintour’s rise to power in the fashion world (18:23) and what that power looks like today (38:30. Host: Bryan CurtisGuest: Amanda DobbinsProducers: Bruce Baldwin, Donald LoBianco, Isaiah Blakely, and Sarah Reddy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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What Happened at the Correspondents’ Dinner, the 'New York Times’ Is Doing Ringer Podcasts, and the Worst Reviews of ‘Michael’
Today on The Press Box, Bryan and Joel discuss their thoughts about the shooting at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner. Then, they are joined by Washington Post reporter Kara Voght who was at the dinner and she talks about what that night was like from her perspective (26:20). Then, they talk about the reviews of the Michael Jackson biopic, Michael’ (47:14), New York Times podcast strategy (54:10), the NFL Draft (1:07:00) and more. Including wrapping up with another edition of J School (1:18:12). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel AndersonGuest: Kara VoghtProducers: Bruce Baldwin, Isaiah Blakely, and Jamie Yukich Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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More on Vrabel and Russini, the FBI Investigates a Reporter, and Buying Your Way Into the Broadcast Booth
Today on The Press Box, Bryan and David are back, and they start with some newsworthy items from David's time at WrestleMania. Then they react to more photos of Dianna Russini and Mike Vrabel (8:16). They also talk about the coverage of the NFL draft (26:00), the FBI’s reported investigation of a New York Times reporter who covered Kash Patel (44:20), and much more. Plus, David Shoemaker Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline. Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David ShoemakerProducers: Bruce Baldwin, Isaiah Blakely, Jamie Yukich, and Sarah Reddy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Kash Patel vs. The Atlantic, Mike Vrabel Speaks, and Why NBC Wants Mike Tomlin. Plus, Jordan Ritter Conn on 'American Men.'
Today on The Press Box, Bryan and Joel start with Kash Patel’s lawsuit against The Atlantic. Then they react to New England Patriots head coach Mike Vrabel speaking to the media for the first time since photos of him and Dianna Russini in Arizona were released (16:41). They also discuss Mike Tomlin to NBC (23:37), NBA score bug issues (34:42), The Washington Post hiring (43:38), and much more. Then Joel talks to Jordan Ritter Conn, Ringer writer and the author of 'American Men,' about the process of writing this book, what masculinity looks like today, and much more (51:49). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel AndersonGuest: Jordan Ritter ConnProducers: Bruce Baldwin, Isaiah Blakely, Ryan Todd, and Sarah Reddy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Rueben Bain Jr.’s Measurables and JD Vance’s Humiliations. Plus, Scott MacFarlane on Life After CBS.
Today on The Press Box, Bryan and Joel discuss the recent news about Rueben Bain Jr., and they discuss how much we should know about NFL draft prospects. Then, they talk about JD Vance (20:41), media sales news (27:53), and the Masters (32:25). Then, they are joined by MeidasTouch chief Washington correspondent Scott MacFarlane to talk about covering the attempted Trump assassination, his last few months at CBS News, joining MeidasTouch, and much more, including a Joel Anderson lightning round (39:54). They wrap up the show with the return of J School (1:23:16). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel AndersonGuest: Scott MacFarlaneProducers: Bruce Baldwin, Isaiah Blakely, and Jamie Yukich Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Dianna Russini Resigns From The Athletic
Today on The Press Box, breaking news: Dianna Russini resigned from The Athletic. So Bryan was joined by Joel Anderson and Nora Princiotti to give their reactions to the resignation and discuss what they think could be next for Russini. Before the news broke, the trio recorded a whole other podcast about their thoughts on the Vrabel-Russini story (16:39), and they discussed what it’s like being a woman in sports media (54:30) and what the point of sports insiders is in today’s media landscape (1:04:19). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel AndersonGuest: Nora PrinciottiProducers: Bruce Baldwin, Isaiah Blakely, and Jamie YukichAdditional Production Supervision: Conor Nevins Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Sam Altman and Trump’s War Room. Plus, ESPN Draft Guru Mel Kiper Jr.
Today on The Press Box, Bryan and Joel start by talking about two big pieces that have dropped this week. First is a story from the New York Times taking us inside the White House and how Trump led the United States into war with Iran. The second piece is from the New Yorker, about OpenAI’s CEO Sam Altman (13:00). Lastly, they discuss the news and drama surrounding pictures released of NFL insider Dianna Russini and New England Patriots head coach Mike Vrabel hanging out poolside in Arizona (21:13). Then, they are joined by ESPN’s draft expert Mel Kiper Jr (30:50). They discuss how he got into draft coverage, handling criticism, and much more. Then in Joel’s lightning round, Mel says who some of his favorite prospects have been at each position he’s ever scouted (1:04:35). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel AndersonProducers: Bruce Baldwin, Donald LoBianco, Isaiah Blakely, and Sarah Reddy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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The April Issue: The 50th Anniversary of 'All the President’s Men' With Sean Fennessey
It’s time for the April issue! Bryan is joined by Sean Fennessey to talk about 'All the President’s Men' in honor of its 50th anniversary. They start by discussing how this movie plays in today’s climate politically and journalistically. Then they talk about all the major players that are involved in this movie—from the stars, including Robert Redford (10:56) and Dustin Hoffman (49:10), to the filmmakers, including Alan Pakula(1:00:14)—and some of their favorite cameos (53:47). Host: Bryan CurtisGuest: Sean FennesseyProducers: Bruce Baldwin, Isaiah Blakely, and Sarah Reddy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Trump’s Iran Threats, Vanity Fair’s Chloe Fineman Cleanup, and Bryan’s Spring Break Adventures
Today on The Press Box, Bryan and David start by catching up about Bryan’s spring break trip. Then they talk about Trump’s Iran tweets (15:28), Bill Raftery’s obscure reference during the national championship (19:07), and much more. Later on, they talk about what to do with ESPN Radio (50:17) and discuss what makes a great used bookstore (57:25). Plus, the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week, and David Shoemaker Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline! Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David ShoemakerProducers: Bruce Baldwin and Isaiah Blakely Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Bomani Jones Talks Social Media on Trial, AI Use, and the State of Hip-Hop Media
Today on a special episode of The Press Box, Joel is joined by friend of the show Bomani Jones. Joel and Bomani start by discussing the social media addiction trial in California that found Meta and Google liable (03:23). They dive into a larger conversation about social media use in 2026, and whether you can still build a following on social media like you used to (10:45). Next, the guys discuss the reaction to their takes on Jay-Z and look at the state of hip-hop media as a whole (24:08). After that, Joel asks Bomani about his use of AI (43:56) and his thoughts on the general conversation surrounding AI in 2026. The show ends with a discussion about Will Wade being hired at LSU (53:46), before a quick conversation about the Jaden Ivey situation (59:32). All that and more, here on The Press Box. Host: Joel Anderson Guest: Bomani Jones Producers: Isaiah Blakely, Bruce Baldwin, and Brian H. Waters Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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A Final Four Preview. Plus, the Issues With College Basketball Coverage and an All-Time UNC Starting Five With Tate Frazier
No Bryan Curtis this week, so Joel Anderson is joined by his fellow co-host from Ringer Tailgate, Tate Frazier! Joel and Tate preview this weekend’s Final Four matchups on the men’s and women’s side. Then, they get into the issues with how college basketball is covered (13:24) before the lighting round (35:18), where Tate gives his all-time North Carolina starting five, the best team to never win a national championship, and more. Host: Joel AndersonGuest: Tate FrazierProducers: Bruce Baldwin and Isaiah Blakely Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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The March Issue: James Talarico and the Dream of Turning Texas Blue
It’s time for the March issue! Bryan and Joel are here to examine Democratic Senate nominee James Talarico in his race to turn Texas blue. They take a look at who Talarico is, why he’s gained national recognition from other Democrats (18:49), and how Texas turned into a completely red state (36:47). Then they take a look at how the Texas Senate race has gone so far and they give reasons for optimism and pessimism for Talarico’s case for Senate (41:58).Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel AndersonProducers: Bruce Baldwin, Isaiah Blakely, and Donald LoBianco Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Senator Chris Murphy on Trump's Iran Games, the Democrats’ 2026 Bumper Sticker, and Why He Loves ‘Andor’
Today on The Press Box, Bryan is joined by Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut! They start with Senator Murph’s breakdown of the events that led the Senate to approve a bill to fund DHS except for ICE. Then they discuss a bunch of other current events including the war in Iran (16:29), whether he’s running for president in 2028 (28:18), prediction markets (29:37), and much more. Host: Bryan CurtisGuest: Chris MurphyProducers: Abou Kamara, Isaiah Blakely, Jacob Cornett, and Kevin Cureghian Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Jay-Z in GQ, Podcasting vs. a Writer’s Brain, and a Sports Media Beef Check-In
Today on The Press Box, Bryan and Joel start by discussing Jay-Z's exclusive interview with GQ and the art of celebrity interviews. Then they discuss the trending topic of whether podcasting is rotting writers' brains (21:25). Then, in the Notebook Dump, they talk about the Stephen A. Smith–Jason Whitlock and Dan Orlovsky–Pat McAfee sports media beefs (34:12), Savannah Guthrie's interview with 'Today,' Tracy Kidder, and the Sports Emmys(54:03). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel AndersonProducers: Bruce Baldwin, Isaiah Blakely, and Jaime Yukich Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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The Evaporating Iran News, CNN’s Podcast Identity Crisis, and Sports Radio’s Wilding Period
Today on The Press Box, Bryan and David talk about the shortening news cycle under Trump, especially during wartime. Then they talk about journalists trying to get back into the Pentagon (20:19). In the Notebook Dump, they talk about Bill Raftery, Bob Woodward’s new book, sports radio fights (27:08), and more. Plus, the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week, and David Shoemaker Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline! Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David ShoemakerProducers: Bruce Baldwin, Isaiah Blakely, and Jamie Yukich Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Cesar Chavez, a New Doc About the Manosphere, and the World Baseball Classic
Today on The Press Box, Bryan and Joel start the show by discussing the New York Times piece about Cesar Chavez containing accounts from women who say he abused them as young girls for years (00:54). Next, the guys discuss the price of oil being the main character of world news this week (06:08) and whether the pushback on rising oil prices will be the thing that will rein in President Trump. After that, Bryan and Joel discuss the ongoing U.S.-Cuba situation (18:15), including what Trump has said about Cuba recently and what reasons he could have for wanting to take action against it (22:35). Following that, the guys review the new documentary ‘Louis Theroux: Inside the Manosphere’ (28:56) before ending the show with some talk about the World Baseball Classic (42:18) and whether we need more sporting events like it (52:20). All that and more, here on The Press Box. Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel Anderson Producers: Isaiah Blakely and Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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The Mystery of Trump’s Cellphone, Washington’s Newspaper War, and the Art of Covering Congress With the New York Times’ Carl Hulse
Today on the Press Box, Bryan and David start by discussing a social media and journalism trend of screenshotting or sharing a part of an article with no attribution or sign pointing to where the article is from. Then, they discuss Trump’s cellphone (20:57), the coverage of the War in Iran (30:05), and the Washington’s new newspaper battle (35:46). They wrap up with Tales from Capitol Hill with the New York Times’ Carl Hulse (45:28). Plus, the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week, and David Shoemaker Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline! Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David ShoemakerGuest: Carl HulseProducers: Bruce Baldwin, Isaiah Blakely, and Jamie Yukich Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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The NFL Stuffs Thanksgiving, the Pentagon’s Photographer Lockout, and ‘Spotlight’ and the End of the Reporter Hero
Today on The Press Box, Bryan and Joel start the show by discussing the Pentagon barring press photographers from briefings on Iran due to “unflattering” pictures of Pete Hegseth being taken. Next, the guys give their takes on the NFL’s potential plans to add a Thanksgiving eve game to the regular-season schedule (14:06) before asking whether this is a prelude to an 18-game NFL regular season (16:51). After that, Bryan and Joel look at the ESPN–NFL Network deal, what it means for NFL insiders Adam Schefter and Ian Rapoport (21:55), and where else insiders can work in sports media today (26:51). Following that, the guys talk about Tony Dungy’s departure from NBC (29:43) before pivoting to the wild night of sports that happened this past Tuesday (35:51), which included Bam Adebayo’s 83-point game and a failed NFL trade (48:58). Today’s show wraps up with a look back at 'Spotlight' on the 10-year anniversary of its Best Picture Oscar win (52:58). All that and more, here on The Press Box. Plus, the return of J-School! Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel Anderson Producers: Isaiah Blakely and Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Trump’s Iran Head Fakes, a CBS News Defection, and Tales From the Lakers Locker Room With Howard Beck
Bryan and David are here to discuss another busy news week. They start with another departure at CBS News, a New York Times piece about Judy Blume (5:56), and Stephen A. Smith on Sean Hannity’s podcast (18:09). They wrap up by discussing Trump’s changing message on the war in Iran (26:01). Then in the Notebook Dump, Bryan is joined by The Ringer’s Howard Beck in another edition of Tales From the Locker Room. Howard tells stories about covering Shaq and Kobe(45:42), getting U2 tickets from Rick Fox (1:19:24), and much more. Plus, the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week, and David Shoemaker Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline! Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David ShoemakerGuest: Howard BeckProducers: Bruce Baldwin and Isaiah Blakely Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries on Iran, the Epstein Files, His Party’s 2026 Bumper Sticker, and the Best New York Rapper of All Time
Today on The Press Box, Bryan and Joel are joined by Hakeem Jeffries, the minority leader of the U.S. House of Representatives. First, Bryan and Joel ask him about what the Democrats can do to stop the war in Iran (01:46) before asking what a U.S.-Israel partnership should look like (05:13). Next, they talk about the Epstein files (11:05) and whether the Democrats can do anything to make Americans care more about Trump's ties to Epstein (14:16). After that, Jeffries is asked what form election interference could take in the midterms (25:13), and then he gives his take on whether ICE should be abolished (29:16). The show ends with Joel’s lightning round, where he asks Jeffries what the best Jay-Z album is (44:20), who the best New York rapper of all time is (46:17), and so much more, here on The Press Box. Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel Anderson Guest: Representative Hakeem Jeffries Producers: Isaiah Blakely and Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Wolf Blitzer on Covering Mideast Wars, Monica Lewinsky, Barack Obama, and Donald Trump
Bryan went to CNN headquarters in Washington, D.C., to talk to CNN's Wolf Blitzer! Bryan has Wolf take us through his media life through the lens of five big stories. Before that, they talk about Wolf’s upbringing and playing football in the Buffalo, New York, area and what made him decide to become a journalist. Then, the first big story they discuss is covering the Pentagon for CNN during the first Gulf War (16:17). The second is the Bill Clinton-Monica Lewinsky controversy (29:48). Third is what he remembers about covering 9/11 (37:32). And the last two are the election of Barack Obama in 2008 (45:41), and the election of Donald Trump in 2016 (52:23). Host: Bryan CurtisGuest: Wolf BlitzerProducers: Bruce Baldwin and Isaiah BlakelyAdditional Production: Ted Tuel and Dylan Nathan Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Trump’s Iran Media Rollout, the Paramount-CNN Crisis, and a Visit to Capitol Hill with Sen. Tim Kaine
Today on The Press Box, Bryan and David start the show discussing the war in Iran and where they went to get their news as the situation unfolded this past weekend. Next, the guys talk about Paramount winning the Warner Bros. Discovery sweepstakes, including what it means for the future of CNN (15:45), and what will happen with the TNT Sports catalog (27:44). The show wraps up with some stories from Bryan’s trip to Washington, D.C., before some exclusive audio from his sitdown with the U.S. Senator from Virginia, Tim Kaine (41:01). They discuss how he would explain the U.S.-Cuba situation (43:09), losing the 2016 election (45:03), and why he reads the newspaper (49:05). Plus, the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week, and David Shoemaker Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline! Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David Shoemaker Guest: Tim Kaine Producers: Isaiah Blakely and Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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The February Issue: Why the Kennedy Dynasty Will Never End
Welcome to the February Issue. Bryan is joined by Amanda Dobbins to answer the question: Why is everyone still so interested in the Kennedys? They begin by talking about ‘Love Story,’ the newest series by Ryan Murphy about John F. Kennedy Jr. and Carolyn Bessette (8:00). They talk about the Kennedy nostalgia and how they thought the cast performed as the Kennedys. Then they talk about people or events that kept the Kennedy fame going (20:45). They discuss the family's public social life, movies and TV shows about them, George magazine, and more. Later they get into how the Kennedy family story was carried on after JFK Jr. and Carolyn Bessette died (55:24). They talk about all the secondary accounts that were written about the family, as well as other family members' failed political careers, then wrap up with discussion of current Kennedys in the political sphere, Jack Schlossberg, and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Host: Bryan Curtis Guest: Amanda Dobbins Producers: Bruce Baldwin, Isaiah Blakely, and Jacob Cornett Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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The February Editorial Meeting
Bryan, David, and Joel are back together for February’s editorial meeting! They first discuss how they’re going to watch Trump’s State of the Union (9:03). Then they move on to some news items from the Olympics, starting with Kash Patel partying with the men’s USA hockey team (18:16). They also talk about Mike Tirico’s coverage at the Olympics (28:21). They talk about more bad news at CBS News (34:39), the newest Savannah Guthrie video (41:16), and the infamous photo of Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor (45:08). They wrap up with a couple of reader questions (50:09), and Joel pays homage to a past coworker (54:38). Hosts: Bryan Curtis, David Shoemaker, and Joel AndersonProducers: Isaiah Blakely and Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Jesse Jackson’s Legacy, More on Stephen Colbert, and When College Basketball Coaches Attack
Today, Bryan and Joel come together to discuss the legacy of Reverend Jesse Jackson, who passed away this week at age 84, and Joel's written piece on the reverend (00:54). The guys continue that conversation by telling the story of a reporter revealing something Reverend Jackson said to him on background (16:25) and how that reflects on modern journalism (27:13). Next, Bryan and Joel give an update on The Atlantic’s measles story and how it has been represented (35:36). After that, the guys talk about the latest in the James Talarico–Stephen Colbert censorship story (42:00) before ending the show with a discussion about Mick Cronin’s outburst at a reporter following UCLA’s loss to Michigan State (50:44). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel Anderson Producers: Isaiah Blakely and Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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970
Barack Obama and Aliens, How to Cover Stephen A’s Quasi-Campaign, and the AI That Ate Cleveland
Bryan and David are here and they start with a story out of Cleveland about a student turning down a job because of their use of AI. They discuss whether there are acceptable ways to use AI in journalism. After that they talk about Barack Obama's podcast interview where he mentions that aliens exist (14:35). Then they discuss some news from CBS. Anderson Cooper leaving CBS News’ ‘60 minutes’ and Stephen Colbert’s late-night show not being able to air an interview with James Talarico (22:32). They also talk about how to cover Stephen A. Smith’s potential presidential campaign (27:07). Lastly they discuss a creative nonfiction story in The Atlantic (40:43) about measles and the death of Robert Duvall (54:27). Also David Shoemaker guesses the Strained Pun Headline of the Week. Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David ShoemakerProducers: Bruce Baldwin and Isaiah Blakely Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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969
Why the Nancy Guthrie Case Captivates America, Joel’s Winter Olympics Takes, and Tales From an NBA Locker Room With Logan Murdock
Bryan and Joel are back, and they start by talking about the national story of Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance (1:04). Then we get Joel’s thoughts on the Winter Olympics (13:50). They also give their final Super Bowl thoughts (26:15), and they talk through some ideas for how to fix the NBA (32:55). Then they are joined by Logan Murdock ahead of All-Star Weekend to hear his locker-room stories covering the Golden State Warriors (41:24). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel AndersonGuest: Logan MurdockProducers: Bruce Baldwin, Isaiah Blakely, and Jamie Yukich Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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968
A Super Bowl Review, the Will Lewis Era Ends With a Thud, and the Long, Strange Journey of Tucker Carlson.
Hello, media consumers! Bryan and David are here and they start by discussing the end of the Will Lewis era at The Washington Post. Then, they recap everything about the Super Bowl (23:08), including if there were any memorable moments in the game, the halftime shows, the commercials, and the commentary. Then, Bryan talks to Jason Zengerle about his new biography about Tucker Carlson (47:23). They talk about Carlson as a magazine writer, how he made the switch to TV, his change of approach during Trump’s second term and much more. Plus, the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week, and David Shoemaker Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline! Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David ShoemakerGuest: Jason ZengerleProducers: Isaiah Blakely and Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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967
The Bulwark's Tim Miller on What Can Stop Trump, JD Vance's Superpower, the Epstein Files Fallout, and More
Hello, media consumers! Bryan is joined by The Bulwark’s Tim Miller to discuss myriad topics across the political landscape. They discuss how Donald Trump’s second term has gone compared to Tim's expectations (12:35), whether there are any candidates for President that have been impressive (34:28), and why Jeff Bezos still owns the Washington Post (53:37). Later on, they talk about what Tim misses about working in politics (1:05:02), which candidate he's worked with that would’ve been the best President (1:08:14), and much more. Host: Bryan CurtisGuest: Tim MillerProducers: Isaiah Blakely, Bruce Baldwin, and Jamie Yukich Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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More on the Washington Post Bloodbath, Don Lemon’s Arrest, and the ESPN-NFL Deal
Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel discuss the layoffs at The Washington Post this week (00:43), whether there's any reason for people to continue subscribing to the Post (12:07), and when does The Washington Post stop being The Washington Post of old (22:46). They continue by talking about what Jeff Bezos has to gain from continuing to own the newspaper (28:21), before diving into the NFL-ESPN deal (34:53). After that, Bryan and Joel analyze Don Lemon’s arrest (42:46) and contemplate whether it concerns them as journalists (44:56). The show rounds out with a look at Tina Brown’s appearance in the Epstein files (54:50), and what's happening in the James Talarico-influencer story (59:28). All that and more, here on The Press Box. Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel Anderson Producers: Isaiah Blakely and Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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They Tore the Heart Out of The Washington Post
Hello, media consumers. Bryan and David are here to discuss the news of mass layoffs at The Washington Post. They talk about losing your job in media in 2026 (1:47); how The Washington Post, specifically the sports section, got here; and how it could have been saved (9:30). They wrap up with a few other notes and thoughts from this major shake-up in the media landscape (34:18). Check out Bryan’s piece on the Washington Post layoffs here. Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David ShoemakerProducers: Isaiah Blakely and Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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The Super Bowl of Super Bowl Story Lines With Danny Heifetz and Danny Kelly
Hello, media consumers! It’s Super Bowl media week, and Bryan is joined by Danny Heifetz and Danny Kelly of The Ringer Fantasy Football Show to discuss the biggest story lines heading into this Seahawks-Patriots Super Bowl. They start by talking about the Seattle-related story lines (14:24) and follow that up with the story lines from New England’s side (32:42). They wrap up by discussing Mike Tirico and Cris Collinsworth’s first Super Bowl together (40:27), Bad Bunny’s halftime show (46:42), and advice for journalists in Santa Clara this week (51:40). Host: Bryan CurtisGuests: Danny Heifetz and Danny KellyProducers: Isaiah Blakely, Bruce Baldwin, and Sarah Reddy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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The January Issue: ‘In Cold Blood’ and the Invention of True Crime
Hello, media consumers! Welcome to the January Issue. This month, Bryan and David come together to celebrate the 60th anniversary of Truman Capote’s ‘In Cold Blood’ being published by Random House. This episode is broken into four chapters, just like the non-fiction novel. Bryan and David start Chapter 1 by discussing Truman Capote himself, and how he was the podcast guest before there were podcast guests (03:20). They have a conversation about who is comparable to Capote in the modern age (09:09), why non-fiction with the style of fiction hits the reader the way it does (17:22), and why Capote wanted to combine these styles (21:04). In Chapter 2, the guys dive into the relationship between Capote and the killers of the Clutter family (26:41), Capote’s journalistic good luck (31:54), and his interviewing techniques (37:21). In Chapter 3, Bryan and David talk about what they made of ‘In Cold Blood’ after re-reading it (1:01:51), Truman Capote’s fabulism (1:05:48), and whether ‘In Cold Blood’ would have been as successful if Capote had said it was almost all true (1:12:14). In Chapter 4, Bryan and David take a look at the impact ‘In Cold Blood’ has had on the media (1:14:43). They discuss ‘In Cold Blood’ being the invention of true crime (1:16:06), and what the heirs of the book are (1:22:32). The January Issue ends with Bryan and David recommending other books you might like if you enjoyed reading ‘In Cold Blood’ (1:30:27). All that and more, here on The Press Box. Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David Shoemaker Guests: Chip McGrath and Gerald Clarke Producers: Isaiah Blakely and Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Gov. Wes Moore on ICE and Minneapolis, Democrats in 2026, the Next Black President, Jay-Z Power Rankings, and the End of the John Harbaugh Era.
Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel are joined today for a bonus episode by Maryland Gov. Wes Moore. The governor discusses his feelings on ICE and the shooting of Alex Pretti (02:31), whether Kristi Noem should resign as head of Homeland Security (05:43), and how Democrats can convince voters of their plan on immigration (08:49). The interview continues with a conversation about Jay-Z songs and lyrics (13:30), today’s political climate (21:19), and whether Gov. Moore is running for president in 2028 (23:49). The show ends with some talk about Gov. Moore’s college football career (30:09), and if it was time for John Harbaugh to go (34:05). All that and more, here on The Press Box. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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The Democratic Depth Chart with Van Lathan
Hello, media consumers! Today on The Press Box, we have a special episode! Bryan and Joel are joined in studio by The Ringer’s own Van Lathan to create a 2028 Democratic Nominee depth chart. The guys go through a list of potential candidates for the 2028 Democratic nomination for President, discussing the outlook and viability of each person. The list spans all the way from frontrunners like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Gavin Newsom, to long shots like John Stewart. The show wraps up with Van ranking them in order of who he thinks will win the nomination as of today. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (2:26) Gavin Newsom (7:20) Pete Buttigieg (16:12) Josh Shapiro (17:42) Kamala Harris (20:48) Tim Walz (25:46) Stephen A. Smith (26:27) Mark Cuban (28:03) JB Pritzker (32:08) Rahm Emmanuel (33:53) Bernie Sanders (35:54) Joe Biden (37:00) Wes Moore (37:35) Corey Booker (39:21) Michele Obama (40:40) Ruben Gallego (44:43) Mark Kelly (45:45) Bob Iger (47:47) Gretchen Whitmer (48:41) James Talarico (49:26) Andy Beshear (53:29) Liz Cheney (1:03:33) John Fetterman (1:03:56 Tech Mogul/Pop Culture Persona TBD (1:04:02) Jon Stewart (1:04:24) Hunter Biden (1:09:36) Putting the Candidates in Order (1:10:40) Jasmine Crockett (1:11:53) Ro Khanna (1:12:51) Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel Anderson Guest: Van Lathan Producer: Bruce Baldwin Additional Production Support: Conor Nevins, Ben Cruz, Chris Thomas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Another Killing in Minneapolis and the Dismantling of The Washington Post
Hello, media consumers! Bryan, David, and Joel come together on today’s episode for a three-man weave. The guys start by discussing the shooting of Alex Pretti (01:58), the way the Trump administration has tried to spin the story (10:04), and the way the Minnesota Star Tribune has covered these events (29:50). After that, Bryan, Joel, and David give their thoughts on the rumored shuttering of the Washington Post sports desk (33:33), alongside other rumored layoffs that could affect half of the company's newsroom. The show ends with a new edition of Our Disillusioned Listeners, where Bryan, David, and Joel answer questions from you, the listeners (51:58). Plus, David and Joel Guess the Strained-Pun Headline! Hosts: Bryan Curtis, David Shoemaker, Joel Anderson Producer: Bruce Baldwin Social: Isaiah Blakely Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Senator Mark Kelly on Trump and Greenland, ICE Raids, Combat Missions in Iraq, and His 2028 Plans
Hello, media consumers! On today’s episode, Bryan interviews Senator Mark Kelly (D-Arizona). Their conversation starts with his thoughts on Trump’s attempts to acquire Greenland (01:21), what he thinks is driving Trump’s foreign policy in his second term (03:18), and the purpose of the video he and other Congress members released about ignoring illegal military orders (07:19). Next, Bryan and Senator Kelly discuss how it feels to be 15 years removed from the horrific shooting of his wife, former House Representative Gabby Giffords (D-Arizona) (15:31), before diving into his thoughts on Trump’s actions in and against Venezuela (17:33). After that, they talk about his experiences as a fighter pilot in Iraq (27:16), whether Democrats were prepared for Trump 2.0 (33:23), and immigration (40:18). Lastly, Bryan asks Senator Kelly if he is running for President in 2028 (48:22), before ending with some classic Ringer pop culture questions (52:02). All that and more, here on The Press Box. Host: Bryan Curtis Guest: Senator Mark Kelly Producer: Bruce Baldwin Additional Production Support: Ben Cruz, Conor Nevins, and Chris Thomas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Trump’s Greenland Crisis, a Sideline Reporter Runs for Senate, and Some Final Thoughts on the National Championship
Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel come together in person to discuss Trump's Greenland crisis (02:10). The guys listen to President Trump’s comments on Greenland (04:09), Iceland (05:30), and NATO (07:47), examining why Trump is doing what he's doing and whether it is simpler than people thought (12:49). Next, Bryan and Joel discuss Bari Weiss’s attempts at damage control following the airing of the spiked '60 Minutes' CECOT piece and the New Yorker profile on her (19:06). After that, the guys dive into some football audio (29:43), including sounds from the national football championship postgame festivities (36:55). Finally, the show wraps up with a discussion about former sideline reporter Michele Tafoya’s newly announced U.S. Senate campaign (43:31). All that and more, here on The Press Box. Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel Anderson Producer: Bruce Baldwin Additional Production Support: Ben Cruz, Conor Nevins, and Sarah Reddy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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The Latest from CBS News and the Craziest Postgame in the Playoffs. Plus: the New Yorker’s Susan Glasser on Year 1 of Trump 2.
Hello, media consumers! Bryan and David discuss everything coming out of CBS News, including The New Yorker’s profile on Bari Weiss, Trump’s remarks to Tony Dokoupil, and the spiked '60 Minutes' segment finally making it to air (00:27). Next, the guys listen to some football audio from the College Football Playoff national championship (08:48) before checking in to see how Tony Romo did in the announcer booth this weekend (22:26). After that, The Ringer’s own Lindsay Jones joins the show to discuss her experience covering the postgame happenings after the Denver Broncos beat the Buffalo Bills (24:40). Lastly, The New Yorker’s Susan Glasser joins the show to discuss year one of Trump 2.0 (48:25), whether popularity matters to Trump (57:42), and whether Trump has changed the way news is reported (1:13:20). Plus, the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week, and David Shoemaker Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline! Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David Shoemaker Guests: Susan Glasser and Lindsay Jones Producer: Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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The FBI Seizes a Reporter’s Laptop, and National Championship Storylines. Plus: CNN’s Abby Phillip!
Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel discuss the FBI raid of a Washington Post reporter that resulted in her laptop and phone being seized (01:08), and how journalists need to protect their information under Trump 2.0. Then, Joel gets a chance to give his take on the Lynn Jones–Jacksonville Jaguars press conference saga, including what journalists need to do coming out of this situation (14:07). Next, Bryan and Joel dive into some football notes, including a conundrum surrounding Carson Beck (26:01), Michael Irvin’s new podcast with Netflix (29:59), and Tony Romo’s partial explanation for his poor performance this weekend (32:42). Lastly, the show ends with Joel interviewing CNN’s Abby Phillip about her book on Rev. Jesse Jackson (38:04), her transition from reporter to anchor (57:15), and the future of cable news (1:09:58). All that and more, here on the Press Box. Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel Anderson Guest: Abby Phillip Producer: Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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The NFL Press Conference Heard ’Round the World, the Tony Romo Problem, and the New California Vulture
Hello, media consumers! Bryan and David discuss the controversy coming out of Jacksonville Jaguars coach Liam Coen’s press conference following their elimination from the playoffs (10:28). They acknowledge both sides of this conversation, examine the reactions from beat writers, and break down what role humanity plays in a postgame press conference (20:32). Next, the guys dive into audio from this past weekend’s NFL wild-card playoff games, including what Tony Romo did wrong (35:06) and what Tom Brady did right (45:29). The show wraps up with a look at the new publication raiding the L.A. Times (57:31), and a quick look at Trump’s interactions with the media lately (1:02:40). Plus, the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week, and David Shoemaker Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline! Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David Shoemaker Producer: Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Dokoupil, Part Deux, and the Death of a Newspaper. Plus, ESPN’s Joe Buck.
Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel start the show with Part 2 of their analysis of Tony Dokoupil’s first week as the CBS Evening News host (01:02). They dive into the technical difficulties, the quality of the writing, and one thing Bryan and Joel think he did well this week. Next, the guys discuss the death of a Pittsburgh newspaper, and what this means for local news (25:49). After that, Bryan and Joel have a conversation about how to be a successful sports columnist in today’s media age (33:09). The show ends with an interview with ESPN’s Joe Buck, where he talks about his black eye (46:00), his father Jack Buck (49:36), announcing with Troy Aikman (1:00:04), and so much more, here on the Press Box. Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel Anderson Guest: Joe Buck Producer: Bruce Baldwin Additional Production Support: Ben Cruz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Covering Venezuela, CBS’s Anchor Du Jour, and a Pile of Football Audio
Hello, media consumers! Bryan is joined by Joel today to discuss the regime change in Venezuela (07:57), including CNN’s coverage of this news. Next, the guys examine the start of the Tony Dokoupil era at CBS News (26:50). They dive into who he is, why he was picked, and more. Then, Bryan and Joel take a look at CBS News’ newly released values (36:27) before giving their takes on the 60 Minutes story Bari Weiss spiked (45:03). Today’s show is rounded out by some football audio from this past weekend (49:45) and a conversation about NFL announcers’ side hustles (1:00:31). Plus, the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week, and Joel Anderson Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline! Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel Anderson Producer: Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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The Holiday Mailbag Episode
Hello, media consumers! Today's episode is a special holiday mailbag episode wherein Bryan and Joel answer your questions, as well as some they have for each other. The show starts out with a discussion about what media they enjoy in their free time (02:29) before they dive into questions like “What was the most overcovered story this year?” (12:06), “What publication would you bring back from the grave?” (24:16), and “What are your favorite book finds of the last five years?” (40:45). All that and more, here on The Press Box. Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel Anderson Producer: Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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The People Who Shaped the Media in 2025
Hello, media consumers! Today’s episode is a special year-end edition of The Press Box where Bryan is joined not only by David but by Joel as well! Bryan, David, and Joel come together to discuss the 12 people who shaped the media in 2025, in no particular order. The show starts out with Joel and David meeting each other for the first time, followed immediately by a dive into the first person on their list (02:47). The guys execute a three-man weave, discussing and sharing their thoughts on the 12 people they think shaped the media in 2025, including Donald Trump, Pablo Torre, and Bari Weiss. The show ends with Bryan, David, and Joel giving some 2026 predictions (1:41:58). All that and more, here on The Press Box. No. 1 - (02:47) No. 2 - (11:02) No. 3 - (18:10) No. 4 - (24:58) No. 5 - (38:22) No. 6 - (52:57) No. 7 - (1:03:21) No. 8 - (1:11:49) No. 9 - (1:23:05) No. 10 - (1:27:26) No. 11 - (1:33:53) No. 12 - (1:36:00) Hosts: Bryan Curtis, David Shoemaker, and Joel Anderson Producer: Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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