The Reverse Mullet Healthcare Podcast

Neurologists Dean and Aisha Sherzai share their groundbreaking research on preventing cognitive decline through lifestyle changes. Proving the power of Lifestyle Medicine. Their work reveals that 80-90% of brain disease is influenced by lifestyle factors, providing hope for people concerned about their brain health.• The Sherzais discovered remarkable protection against dementia in Seventh-day Adventists following plant-based diets• The brain is especially vulnerable to lifestyle factors as it's 2% of body weight but uses 25% of energy• Their NEURO framework covers Nutrition, Exercise, Unwind, Restorative sleep, and Optimizing cognitive activity• Continuing cognitive challenge is critical – "Don't retire, rewire" around your passions• While Alzheimer's cannot be reversed once established, prevention is possible at any age• The brain can grow new connections even at 99 years old with proper lifestyle habits• Implementation requires community involvement at all levels rather than top-down approachesBe ambassadors for lifestyle medicine and brain health—consider yourself a walking billboard for the profound impact of lifestyle changes on cognitive well-being.

Healthcare costs have doubled in the past decade, reaching a crushing $26,000 annually for families—with individual contributions now matching what the total premium used to be two decades ago. This financial reality is what gets Dr. Alex Sommers out of bed each morning.Live from the American College of Lifestyle Medicine Conference in Orlando, we sit down with Dr. Sommers, a board-certified emergency physician who's now leading a healthcare revolution through direct primary care. His Wisconsin-based practice bypasses traditional insurance models to work directly with employers, creating what he calls a "value-based ecosystem" that integrates primary care, mental health services, and lifestyle medicine under one roof.The results speak volumes: Dr. Sommers' approach is generating savings of $115-120 per member per month—nearly double the national average for direct primary care practices. By focusing on preventive care, measuring meaningful biomarkers, and addressing root causes rather than symptoms, his team is demonstrating that better healthcare doesn't have to mean higher costs.We dive deep into the tension between our reactive "sick care" system and what actually works for preventing disease and optimizing health. Dr. Sommers shares his journey from healthcare executive to innovator, explaining how he's collaborating with the Health Rosetta community to redesign employer health plans from the ground up. As he puts it, "When you align personal stake, professional stake, and the finances for all stakeholders, you get better outcomes."Whether you're an employer drowning in healthcare costs, a provider seeking more meaningful ways to practice, or simply someone concerned about the unsustainable trajectory of American healthcare, this conversation offers hopeful insights into what's possible when we're willing to reimagine the system. Connect with us to continue the conversation and discover how these principles might transform your approach to health and wellness.

Dr. David Katz takes us on a journey through the evolution of lifestyle medicine and its critical role in addressing our dual crises of chronic disease and environmental degradation. With characteristic wit and wisdom, he explains how our healthcare system has become primarily "disease care," waiting for patients to "fall off the wall" rather than preventing falls in the first place.Drawing on decades of experience in preventive medicine, Dr. Katz reveals the stark reality that diet quality has become the number one predictor of all-cause mortality in the United States. More sobering still is his assertion that 60% of COVID-19's impact in America was attributable to our population's poor metabolic health—a preventable tragedy had we addressed the "prior neglected pandemic" of lifestyle-related diseases.The conversation takes a delightful turn when Catherine Katz, neuroscientist and French foodie, joins to share how theory meets practice in their kitchen. Through her website Cuisinicity, she demonstrates that healthy eating need not be bland or restrictive. Her innovative approach transforms traditional recipes by maintaining the sensory experience while dramatically improving the nutritional profile—like her fiber-rich, protein-packed chocolate mousse that satisfies both the body and the most discerning palates.Together, the Katzes offer a masterclass in "taste bud rehab," explaining how our preferences can adapt to healthier foods in just weeks. They contrast this natural approach with ultra-processed foods engineered to maximize consumption before satiety signals activate. Their message is ultimately one of integration: we need both acute care for emergencies and systems that build "vitality at its origins," recognizing that the shifts in personal behavior that benefit human health also redound to the benefit of our planet.Ready to transform your relationship with food and health? Discover how small changes can yield enormous benefits for you and the environment.

What does it take to build a thriving lifestyle medicine practice in rural America? Dr. Kathleen Findlay takes us behind the scenes of her remarkable journey establishing a comprehensive lifestyle medicine program in her small Wisconsin hometown.After 20 years away, Dr. Findlay returned home with a vision to transform healthcare delivery in her community. Starting with a simple knock on the CEO's door, she secured permission to create an integrative medicine practice that eventually evolved into a full-fledged lifestyle medicine program at a critical access hospital with rural health clinics. Despite the significant regulatory hurdles—from space limitations to coding restrictions that seemed to prohibit group visits—Dr. Findlay and her team found creative solutions to make lifestyle medicine work within the constraints of government-funded healthcare.The heart of their success? Shared medical appointments that Dr. Findlay describes as creating a "family" among participants. These group sessions not only work financially within the Rural Health Clinic model but generate the community connections critically missing in rural healthcare. Their 12-session intensive lifestyle program expanded organically as patients wanted more, leading to innovations like culinary medicine without a teaching kitchen and partnerships with local fitness centers. Perhaps most impressive is how their model expanded to pediatrics, helping children struggling with anxiety and obesity through lifestyle interventions.Looking for inspiration in healthcare transformation? Dr. Findlay's story shows that with leadership support, creative problem-solving, and unwavering dedication, lifestyle medicine can thrive even where it seems most improbable. 

Healthcare's identity crisis sits at the heart of our inability to truly help patients get healthy. Dr. Caroline Collins, an internal medicine physician at Emory University, joins the Reverse Mullet Healthcare Podcast to reveal how she's championing lifestyle medicine inside one of America's leading academic medical centers.What happens when a physician decides to focus on the root causes of disease rather than just treating symptoms? Dr. Collins shares her personal journey, sparked by witnessing diabetes and cancer in her own family, that led her to become a voice for change at Emory. "I can't give you a pill or an injection to make you healthy," she tells patients. "It's really about how we live our lives."The conversation unveils Emory's groundbreaking work in lifestyle medicine research and their upcoming lifestyle and weight management clinic focusing on employee health and pre-surgical optimization. This "prehabilitation" approach demonstrates how preparing patients before surgery dramatically reduces complications and costs—transforming potential ICU stays into outpatient procedures.The most revealing moments come when discussing healthcare's fundamental misalignment of incentives. "If patients are healthier, who's going to fill your clinic schedule?" This exposes the uncomfortable truth: our current system financially rewards sickness, not health. Dr. Collins describes the "schizophrenic" nature of healthcare organizations pushing volume-based metrics while simultaneously embracing value-based care contracts.Ready to understand why common-sense approaches to health aren't common practice? Listen now and discover what it takes to transform healthcare from within the system itself. 

Are we approaching fasting all wrong? In this fascinating conversation with Dr. Joseph Antoun, MD-PhD and CEO of L-Nutra, we dive deep into the science of cellular rejuvenation through fasting-mimicking diets—a revolutionary approach backed by research from 18 universities including Harvard, Stanford, and Mayo Clinic.Dr. Antoun challenges conventional wisdom about intermittent fasting, explaining why skipping breakfast might actually work against longevity goals. Instead, he advocates for "front-loading" your fasting period—finishing dinner by 7pm and eating breakfast the next morning—to align with your body's natural hormonal rhythms and metabolic needs.The true magic happens when we explore ProLon, L-Nutra's pioneering 5-day fasting-mimicking food program. Unlike traditional fasting, this scientifically formulated nutrition plan keeps you eating while your body enters a deep fasting state, triggering cellular "autophagy"—the Nobel Prize-winning self-cleaning and rejuvenation process that starts around day three. Research published in Nature shows three cycles can reverse biological age by 2.5 years.Perhaps most groundbreaking is the application for chronic disease management through the new L-Nutra Health platform. Clinical trials demonstrate two-thirds of diabetes patients reduced medication within six months of following their protocol—just five days monthly of specialized nutrition with physician and dietician support. Health economic studies show insurers break even in just ten months, creating a rare alignment between patient outcomes and financial incentives.Whether you're seeking longevity, weight management, or a science-based approach to metabolic health, this conversation illuminates how precisely formulated nutrition can activate your body's innate healing mechanisms—potentially changing your relationship with food, fasting, and cellular aging.

Healthcare has reached what Shawn Martin from the American Academy of Family Physicians calls an "inflection point" unlike any other. Joining us at the American College of Lifestyle Medicine Conference, Martin shares how our system's overwhelming focus on late-stage disease intervention has created a financial and clinical disconnect that's pushing us toward a breaking point.The conversation reveals a startling truth: our healthcare system wasn't built to help people become healthy. Instead, as Martin explains, interventions have historically been designed "to save a hospital money, to save the employer money, to save the insurer money" rather than helping patients live better lives. This misalignment of incentives has created what one host calls our collective "Wile E. Coyote moment" - we've run off the cliff of sustainability and haven't yet looked down.But within this crisis lies unprecedented opportunity. Lifestyle medicine emerges as a catalyst for transformation, offering physicians tools to not just manage chronic disease but potentially reverse it. For the 130,000 family physicians represented by AAFP across 95% of US counties, this approach reconnects them with the type of care they envisioned providing when entering medicine. It's not about expensive technology or complicated protocols - it's about returning to foundations of health that have been overlooked in our complex system.Listen now to understand how combining lifestyle medicine with emerging value-based payment models could finally align financial incentives with patient outcomes and rebuild healthcare on a foundation of health rather than disease.

"I would have retired from healthcare if I hadn't found lifestyle medicine." These powerful words from Dr. Patel capture the transformative potential not just for patients, but for burned-out healthcare professionals seeking meaning in their work. Speaking with us at the American College of Lifestyle Medicine Conference, Dr. Patel shares the remarkable journey that led her from traditional internal medicine to becoming a champion of lifestyle medicine approaches. Her patients' transformations were so dramatic that after just three months, some were unrecognizable - completely weaning off insulin, reversing diabetes, normalizing cholesterol levels, and losing significant weight. These weren't incremental improvements but complete health transformations.What makes Dr. Patel's story particularly compelling is her strategic approach to integrating lifestyle medicine into healthcare systems. Rather than starting with idealism, she targeted specific pain points for her health system. As a self-insured entity spending $3 million over budget on employee healthcare annually, the system was receptive when her intensive therapeutic lifestyle change program for 150 employees demonstrated exactly $3 million in cost savings within a year. This perfect ROI opened doors for expansion, allowing her to build comprehensive programs incorporating health coaches, registered dietitians, and community-based interventions.The pandemic forced Dr. Patel to transition her in-person programs to virtual platforms, yielding a surprising discovery: virtual lifestyle medicine programs produce identical clinical and biometric outcomes to in-person interventions. This breakthrough has enormous implications for scaling these solutions nationwide without capital-intensive facility investments, potentially addressing both clinician shortages and healthcare access issues simultaneously.Ready to transform your approach to healthcare? Explore how lifestyle medicine can revitalize your practice, improve patient outcomes, and create sustainable healthcare models that address both clinical and economic challenges. The revolution in healthcare isn't coming - it's already here.

Ever wondered how a physician-led organization achieves exceptional results in one of healthcare's most challenging environments? Join us for a fascinating conversation with Dr. Eliza Ng the Chief Medical Officer of CAIPA, a New York-based Independent Physician Association managing 500,000 lives with remarkable success.Dr. Ng shares her journey from delivering babies as an OBGYN to transforming healthcare delivery for 350,000 lives under value-based care arrangements. With 85% Medicaid enrollment, COIPA has achieved what many consider impossible: MLRs in the high 70s and shared savings of $80-100 million. The key? Access to care and relationship-building that creates patient "stickiness" where others struggle to even locate their members.We explore the real-world business case for lifestyle medicine in value-based care settings, addressing both opportunities and barriers. Learn how organizations can demonstrate both direct revenue and indirect benefits from lifestyle interventions, with each 1% reduction in A1C potentially saving $500-2,000 per patient annually. Dr. Ng candidly discusses the challenges of convincing financial decision-makers of lifestyle medicine's value when most contracts operate on 12-month cycles while interventions require years to show full impact.Whether you're a clinician looking to incorporate lifestyle medicine into your practice or a healthcare leader navigating value-based transformation, this episode delivers actionable insights on maintaining the "mom-and-pop" feel patients crave while operating within sophisticated risk-bearing arrangements. 

Susan Benigas, Executive Director of the American College of Lifestyle Medicine (ACLM), pulls back the curtain on how a radical rethinking of medicine is transforming healthcare at its roots. Having served in her role for over a decade, Susan represents half of ACLM's 20-year history—a journey that's seen membership explode from just 380 members to thousands of passionate practitioners worldwide.The conversation begins with a surprising revelation: Susan isn't a clinician at all, but a business and marketing professional whose personal awakening came in 2007. "I just don't believe that God designed us all to become chronically ill and dependent on medications," she explains, describing her growing discomfort with America's pharmaceutical-dependent healthcare approach. After discovering T. Colin Campbell's groundbreaking book "The China Study," Susan recognized that every food choice represents either a step toward health or away from it—a realization that would ultimately transform both her personal and professional life.What truly distinguishes ACLM is its remarkable growth trajectory, particularly during the COVID-19 pandemic when most medical associations were losing members. From 2019 to 2022, membership skyrocketed from 3,500 to 9,500, reflecting the pandemic's stark illumination of how lifestyle-related chronic conditions dramatically impact health outcomes. Today, with nearly 4,500 conference attendees representing 64 countries, ACLM has evolved from a niche organization to a global movement.Perhaps most compelling is Susan's assertion that lifestyle medicine is essential to any meaningful healthcare transformation: "It is impossible to optimize value-based care without a lifestyle medicine-first approach." The model not only aligns perfectly with the quintuple aim of healthcare but also reconnects practitioners with their original motivation—becoming true healers rather than disease managers. For many physicians, discovering lifestyle medicine has literally saved their medical careers by restoring purpose and demonstrating what's truly possible in patient care.Ready to witness healthcare transformation that actually works? Discover how ACLM is unleashing an unstoppable force for change by returning to medicine's foundational principles while creating scalable, evidence-based solutions for our most pressing health challenges.

Meet the medical unicorn who's reversing type 2 diabetes with lifestyle. Dr. Gebre Nida, an endocrinologist who grew up in Ethiopia where diabetes was rare, found himself overwhelmed treating the condition when he began practicing in the United States. Despite excellent training in diagnosis and medication management, he lacked tools to actually reverse the disease—until he discovered lifestyle medicine.What happened next is extraordinary. By creating simple educational packets and dedicating extra time to selected patients, Dr. Abraha documented remarkable outcomes: average A1C reductions of 3.4 points, LDL cholesterol drops of 61 points, and weight loss averaging 26 pounds—all between just two visits approximately three months apart. These weren't temporary improvements; follow-up data showed sustained benefits at one year. Perhaps most impressive, ten patients who arrived with double-digit A1C levels now require no diabetes medications whatsoever.The economic implications are profound. With NIH data showing that each one-point A1C reduction saves 13% in diabetes-related costs, the financial case for lifestyle medicine is compelling. Yet our healthcare system remains structurally misaligned with these incentives, treating lifestyle interventions as expenses rather than investments. Dr. Nida's most powerful insight might be his observation that "type 2 diabetes doesn't happen in the clinic—it develops in the kitchen, where people live, where people work." His success demonstrates that by addressing disease at its source, we can achieve outcomes that medications alone cannot match. Ready to transform your approach to chronic disease? Listen now and discover how the simplest interventions often yield the most powerful results.

Ever wondered how leaders in healthcare balance innovation with the everyday challenges of running a major health system? John Couris, President and CEO of the Florida Health Sciences Center unveils his approach to expanding Tampa General's reach while launching a venture capital fund and developing a medical district. Join us on a journey through the intricacies of creating a supportive organizational culture where failure is not only accepted but encouraged as a stepping stone to growth. Inspired by personal tales and industry challenges, we discuss the importance of authenticity, kindness, transparency, and vulnerability as the cornerstones of a thriving workplace. Feel the energy as we uncover how this approach nurtures trust, enabling individuals to innovate fearlessly and organizations to maintain their cultural integrity through commitment and training. We confront the healthcare industry's pressing dilemmas, from care coordination to the quest for a sustainable and affordable system. Dive into the complexities of the U.S. healthcare system, dissecting the impact of policies like the Affordable Care Act and envisioning a future where collaboration drives meaningful change. Highlights include innovative ideas like food pharmacies and the potential for government-facilitated industry innovation. This episode promises not just an engaging conversation but tangible insights into the legacy and leadership required to shape a healthier tomorrow. 

What's the secret to making technology feel more human in healthcare? Join us for a fascinating conversation with Andrew Toy, CEO of Clover Health, as he shares the refreshing approach his organization has taken by offering AI insights to physicians to transform the Medicare Advantage experience for seniors. As a computer scientist turned healthcare innovator, Andrew offers a fresh perspective on empowering primary care physicians with advanced data access. We explore his unique approach to managed care, focusing on creating a collaborative environment where technology enhances clinical decisions without dictating them. Discover how Clover Health is reshaping the way healthcare providers align with best practices, making them feel more like partners rather than followers.We hear in one word how Andrew thinks we could effect REAL change in healthcare - education. And with special co-host Erin Martin at the mic, we enter the world of Food Is Health and discuss how Health Savings Accounts could revolutionize your access to healthy food and exercise. We tackle this intriguing idea, discussing the complexities and potential benefits of such a proposal. Our conversation dives into the role of AI in bridging the gap in nutritional education for healthcare providers, enabling them to guide patients more confidently on nutrition matters. By empowering physicians and facilitating connections with nutritionists, AI holds the promise of transforming healthcare advice into actionable lifestyle changes. Celebrate Clover Health's recent successes with us and get inspired by Andrew's visionary insights into the future of healthcare.

The role of food in health is fundamental and the government plays a pivotal role in ensuring that our food system delivers health to 330 million Americans. The food industry and healthcare industry operate in silos so it was refreshing to learn Jim Jones, Deputy Commissioner for Human Foods at the FDA would be speaking at HLTH. He joined us for an eye-opening conversation about the FDA's groundbreaking initiatives aimed at reshaping how we consume and perceive nutrition. From finalizing the criteria for labeling foods as "healthy" to the development of a consumer-friendly logo, Jim gives us a sneak peek into the future of food labeling. He also sheds light on the ambitious phase two sodium reduction goals, targeting a significant cut in sodium levels in packaged and restaurant foods. As well as an exciting proposal for front-of-pack labeling that promises to make it easier for consumers to spot high levels of sodium, added sugar, and saturated fats. But that's not all. We also take you beyond U.S. borders to explore international health policies that have proven effective in enhancing longevity and quality of life. Special cohost Erin Martin ensures we discuss the vital role that food quality plays in healthspan and how implementing successful international strategies like front-of-pack labeling could lead to better aging outcomes here at home. Join us as we envision a future where the United States not only learns from global practices but also leads in innovative food policy changes that promise to improve public health across the nation.

This is a must watch episode! See our Youtube channel @ https://www.youtube.com/@BP2Health-fo8ij/videosJoin us for an enlightening excursion into the heart of Kansas, where third-generation farmer Clint Brauer and his team at Greenfield Robotics are changing the face of agriculture. Discover how Clint transitioned from a third-generation farmer to a tech career in Los Angeles and back to his farming roots, driven by a personal mission to counteract the long-term health impacts of farming chemicals. Listen (or watch) as Ellen delights in our first on-location podcast, the best field-trip ever! Through our candid conversation, you’ll learn about the transformative power of regenerative agriculture and the real-world benefits of grass-fed livestock and multi-species cover crops for soil health and animal nutrition.Experience the future of farming with us as we showcase the cutting-edge, AI-powered robots from Greenfield Robotics. Clint walks us through the incredible precision of these small yet mighty machines, which navigate narrow crop rows and manage weeds without chemicals. With the added advantage of Starlink and 4G connectivity, these robots can operate seamlessly, even at night. Hear about the practicalities of running such advanced technology on the farm, from battery management to the cost-efficiency of developing new robotic attachments. But it’s not just about technology—it's about a personal journey and a broader vision. Clint shares how the challenges of his father’s health influenced his pivot back to farming, emphasizing sustainable practices that prioritize the microbiome and long-term soil health. We also delve into the broader implications of regenerative agriculture for human well-being and the hurdles faced in financing and scaling innovative solutions. This episode is a rich tapestry of personal anecdotes, revolutionary technology, and the promise of a healthier future for farming and food production.

Andrew Molosky, the charismatic President and CEO of Chapters Health System and CareNu, joins us on the Reverse Mullet Healthcare Podcast for a spirited discussion. Andrew shares his journey from a chance encounter with Nikki Sixx of Mötley Crüe to championing patient-centered care. We unravel how viewing patients as unique stories, rather than mere numbers, can revolutionize healthcare delivery. With over two decades in the field, Andrew brings a wealth of insights into innovative risk-bearing programs and addresses the vital role of social determinants in shaping healthcare outcomes.As we reflect on the future of healthcare, we explore the transformative shift from fee-for-service to value-based care—a shift that prioritizes empathetic treatment over sheer volume. We discuss the need for redesigning health systems to better serve vulnerable populations, such as the elderly and chronically ill. Andrew shares his expertise in integrating Medicare and Medicaid services to create a more unified care model, emphasizing the importance of home and community-based services and exploring innovative care models like PACE and GUIDE.These care models showcase the significance of holistic, patient-centered approaches that account for both clinical and social environments. Our conversation also highlights the economic alignment necessary for successful value-based care and the challenges different institutions face during this transition. We commend grassroots efforts and legislative support in expanding these programs, acknowledging the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Innovation's role in driving change.Join us for a lively talk that imagines a future where healthcare leaves a legacy of superior patient experiences and embraces meaningful transformation.Please Like, Share AND Subscribe!Connect with us: https://bp2health.com/contact/

The BP2 Health team take on a “hot” new format by incorporating hot sauce tasting between topics. Eric Utzinger, Co-founder of Revuud and Becky Fox, a national expert in clinical informations, join the BP2 Health team for a lively exploration of healthcare's hottest topics—literally! From hilarious spoon-balancing antics to a fiery hot sauce tasting, we promise you’ll learn about the Scoville scale and much more. Our cheeky reverse mullet approach ensures your ears feast on both spicy fun and serious healthcare discussions, giving you a perfect blend of entertainment and enlightenment. A special shoutout to Eric and team as the mastermind of such a fun format to follow!With each saucy challenge we face, camaraderie shines through, emphasizing how hobbies and family passions keep us grounded. Along the way, hear about the "Crockpot" nickname—a nod to a slow but triumphant basketball journey—and how balancing personal life with professional commitments shapes us all. Next we shift from the party in the front to business in the back and the conversation takes a turn into the complexities of healthcare entrepreneurship, innovation, and systemic reform. We confront the challenges of price transparency, patient-doctor dynamics, and the barriers that hold back technological advancements. Eric and Becky provide invaluable insights into creating a more inclusive and efficient healthcare system, all while reminding us that humor and shared purpose can drive meaningful change. Join us for an episode where laughter meets learning, as we navigate the serious and spicy landscape of healthcare.

Join us at VIVE 2024 in Los Angeles, where Alex Fair reads his mic drop worthy poem about standing up for change in an industry that is broken. Paulo Machado, joins the conversation emphasizing the significance of consumer and provider-centric innovations, sharing his firsthand experiences in launching transformative ventures. Meanwhile, Alex, from MedStarter Ventures paints a vivid picture of the trials and triumphs faced by healthcare startups, emphasizing the crucial role of supportive investment. Through a blend of personal stories and creative expression, we explore the immense potential of finding the right kind of investor to enable the sustainable redesign of the healthcare industry. We tackle the pressing issue of focusing on consumers of healthcare and the need for personalized delivery of care by providers. Healthcare innovation not forced but transformational.  Alex and Paulo spotlight the artwork of Regina Holiday and her Walking Gallery jackets, which champion patient centricity, and also brings to light the camaraderie and fun embodied by the Pink Socks movement. The episode underscores the necessity of disruptive conversations and community-driven initiatives to create meaningful change in healthcare, all while blending serious discussions with lighthearted moments. Tune in to discover how collective action and innovative thinking can pave the way for a more equitable and effective healthcare system.

Amidst the booming tech landscape, who really owns your health data? Our guest Tressa Springmann, the dynamic Senior Vice President and Chief Information and Digital Officer for LifeBridge Health posits what would happen if the healthcare ecosystem was reversed and we controlled our own health data. Join our quick dive into health information ownership and challenge the current infrastructure that holds patients back from controlling their own data. We break down the industry's resistance to patient-centric data models and discuss why a disruptive force might be the key to sparking change. Frustration with wearable technology is also on the agenda—these devices collect our health data but fail to integrate it seamlessly into our healthcare systems. Together, we explore the steps needed to revolutionize how patient data is utilized, aiming to transform healthcare for the better.Tressa also shares how healthcare IT policy impacts the everyday operations of a major health system and unravels the intricacies of healthcare regulations. Tressa takes us behind the scenes of her role at LifeBridge and also at CHIME, offering valuable insights into how her work with CHIME has been instrumental in her career and in shaping industry standards. We also venture into the complexities of virtual health credentialing and how it exacerbates healthcare workforce shortages, bringing you firsthand knowledge from a leader at the forefront of this critical field. Don’t miss this thought-provoking conversation that could redefine your understanding of healthcare data.

Ever thought about what it takes to create a healthcare system that truly puts patients first? Join us on the Reverse Mullet Healthcare Podcast as we sit down with Dr. Jamie Colbert, Chief Medical Officer of Memora Health, to explore just that. With an impressive background at Harvard, Stanford, and contributions to Blue Cross Blue Shield and the Brookings Institution, Jamie's journey through value-based care and population health provides invaluable insights. Jamie reveals the complexities and potential solutions to making a patient-centered health delivery system a reality, while sharing a glimpse of his life outside of the office.In a fascinating discussion, Jamie addresses the pervasive inefficiencies in the current healthcare system and the monumental role AI technology can play in overcoming these challenges. We discuss how Memora Health's AI-powered solutions are designed to minimize administrative burdens, enhance clinician efficiency, and provide comprehensive patient education. Jamie's firsthand experiences shed light on how these innovations can transform care pathways and improve both patient and clinician satisfaction, making healthcare more effective and efficient.Lastly, we dissect the core principles of patient-centered care and the strategies needed to redesign the healthcare system to meet these ideals. We dive into the importance of aligning healthcare with patient goals, ensuring collaborative and accessible care, and the need for timely information sharing. Listen as we highlight personal stories and practical examples that underscore the urgency of addressing emotional and end-of-life planning challenges.

On the Road Edition - Live at ViVE, Episode 8Why has value-based care taken so long to revolutionize healthcare? This is the pressing question we explore with Brent McDonald, Senior Vice President, Population Health at Vanderbilt University Medical Center. Brent brings over a decade of experience to our podcast, sharing his journey and the unwavering commitment needed to drive real, impactful change in the healthcare sector. We delve into the incremental steps and significant tipping points that have marked the evolution of value-based care.In our discussion, Brent passionately emphasizes the importance of empowering providers with the right information, technology, and incentives to achieve optimal patient outcomes. We delve into the incremental steps and significant tipping points that have marked the evolution of value-based care. Brent's optimism and dedication shine through. Tune in for a thought-provoking conversation that highlights how perseverance and strategic partnerships are transforming healthcare for the better. Don't miss this engaging episode filled with insights, reflections, and a clear vision for the future of healthcare. Discover how one pioneering Vanderbilt collaboration is poised to enhance patient outcomes through advanced navigation services and a clinically integrated network. This isn't just another healthcare initiative; it's a partnership aiming to set a new standard for healthcare delivery.Throughout the episode, Brent's optimism and dedication shine through. Tune in for a thought-provoking conversation that highlights how perseverance and strategic partnerships are transforming healthcare for the better. Don't miss this engaging episode filled with insights, reflections, and a clear vision for the future of healthcare.

What would it take to revolutionize healthcare as we know it? Join us as we sit down with Rich Mulry, president and CEO of Northwell Holdings, and John Beadle, managing partner of Aegis Ventures to find out the work they are doing towards that mission. Through the Digital Consortium, they are tackling some of the most pressing challenges in the industry, such as clinician burnout and health equity. This episode makes it clear that Digital Health isn’t dead, there just may be more creative alternatives for funding and development to make solutions silver bullets, not solutions in search of problems. Rich shares his belief that REAL change can happen if we take advantage of the technology solutions that exist and custom tailor them both to meeting consumers and patients where they are. While John also doubles down on technology adding that it needs to more closely link the design, development and implementation of solutions with the challenges that those are experiencing within the health system on the front lines. Rich and John share their some of their pass-times, expertise, anecdotes and deep insights into the strategic focus of their organizations, making this a must-listen for anyone interested in the future of healthcare technology and investment. They discuss the critical need to integrate wellness and prevention into healthcare systems, ensuring better community health outcomes by addressing social determinants like diet, exercise, and access to care. This episode sheds light on the broader ecosystem of policy, insurance, and access barriers, and how health systems like Northwell are uniquely poised to influence community health through innovative solutions. Everyone knows that technology is reshaping the healthcare landscape, not just for patients but for providers too.  But building collaboration is essential for effective healthcare innovation, and this episode explores the complexities and opportunities within this space. Learn about the importance of developing baseline infrastructure, fostering top-down alignment, and the role of providers on the front lines. Rich and John dive into the challenges of organizational change management and highlight the value of learning from failures. They also discuss the importance of trust, the potential of AI, and the successful strategies employed by Aegis in developing solutions closely aligned with provider systems. Tune in to understand how these industry leaders are driving meaningful change and fostering a collaborative environment for digital healthcare advancements.

On the Road Edition - Live at ViVE, Episode 7Ever wondered how barbershops could double as healthcare hubs? Join us for an eye-opening conversation with Peter Jongwe, the visionary founder and CEO of Oben Health, who is transforming community spaces into centers of health and wellness. Peter details his innovative program that trains barbers as community health workers to screen for hypertension right where people feel most at ease. This episode offers a compelling look at how meeting people where they are can close healthcare gaps and improve outcomes for underserved populations.But that's not all—we also tackle the foundational aspects of healthcare that need urgent attention. Access, care, screening, and health literacy are critical areas where technology can make a significant impact. Hear personal anecdotes that underscore the emotional drive behind these missions, including stories that could change the way you think about healthcare delivery. From improving operations and workflows to leveraging the latest technological advancements, this episode is a passionate call to action for meaningful change in the healthcare system. Tune in for an inspiring discussion that could transform lives and communities alike.

On the Road Edition - Live at ViVE, Episode 6Ever wonder how you would spend a $1B check to fix healthcare? We sat down for a speed session to hear Lee Bowers, President of Florida Blue Medicare of how he would use the $ to effect REAL change in healthcare. We delve into transformative ideas discussed at the VIVE conference, particularly focusing on the groundbreaking potential of a universal EMR system. Lee also shares insights on the ongoing efforts to implement such a system within the military, exploring how these changes could enhance patient care and streamline billing processes. Additionally, Lee shares the idea of creating a universal Medicare Advantage provider database. Adding a dash of fun to cap off our episode, we share a hilarious interlude with Lee and Ellen both donning reverse mullet wigs. The audience can decide who wore it better. This playful segment captures the laughter and camaraderie of the moment, revealing the amusing challenges of hearing through a head full of hair. It's a delightful break from the serious discussion, showcasing a lighter side of our guest. We wrap up with heartfelt thanks to Lee for making this episode not only informative but also incredibly entertaining. Don't miss out on this unique blend of insightful discussion and sheer fun!

On the Road Edition - Live at ViVE, Episode 5Physician burnout is tragic. With 1 in 5 physicians plan to leave HC altogether. Dr. Dawkins was in the same place but managed to turn that frown upside down and strive for real CHANGE in the industry through compassion. Something that in a way got forced out of her while practicing in our fragmented system.Compassion for physicians. Enabling physicians to practice with compassion. So that they can again seek to understand where the other person is coming from in every situation.  What is bringing them here? What is it that you need from me? How can I help them?  She also became a leader in the AMAs Physicians Innovation Network to represent the healthcare workforce in providing input into the innovative solutions, including tech solutions that are being built. Compassion for patients. With Over 60% of people are afraid of needles and about 1 in 4 people exhibiting a stress reaction to needles, including an automatic urge to avoid, she realized there was a big need. She put on her entrepreneurial hat and created @thimble which is on a mission to relieve the pain and fear from needles that prevents millions of patients from receiving care. And according to some studies that vaccination rates could increase by up to 16 percent from eliminating the fear.Luckily Manju’s work has allowed her to fall in love with medicine. We hope that work can help other clinicians do the same!

On the Road Edition - Live at ViVE, Episode 4Prepare to unlock the secrets to a healthier life as we bring you an intimate conversation with Dr. Jeffrey Rutledge and Craig Hiddle from HealthTap. Their pioneering virtual-first approach is reshaping the landscape of primary care—tune in to discover why a strong doctor-patient bond could be your ticket to longevity and lower health costs. We're tearing down traditional healthcare barriers and opening up a world where your primary care doctor is just a text away, thanks to the innovative blend of healthcare and technology.Join us for a thought-provoking journey with our esteemed guests, as we navigate the economic maelstrom of the healthcare industry and pinpoint how consumer-driven changes are poised to turn the tide within the next decade. We're not just talking about the future of medicine; we're actively shaping it by addressing the quarterback shortage in primary care and tackling the food system that's at the heart of our well-being. Don't miss this episode—it's a heartfelt pledge to continue this vital conversation with a future in-depth feature that could revolutionize your approach to health.

On the Road Edition - Live at ViVE, Episode 3Ever wondered what it takes to truly revolutionize healthcare in our rural communities? @BP2 Health had the privilege of hosting Dr. McGill, Chief Transformation Officer at Community Health Network for an On The Road At VIVE edition of The Reverse Mullet Healthcare Podcast. Dr. McGill brought to the table his insights on effecting REAL change in rural America. Our conversation wasn't just eye-opening; it was a dive into the real-world struggles of rural healthcare, from the chronic shortage of primary care doctors to the opportunity to leverage technology and partnerships for solutions. He cites a few staggering statistics including a county in Indiana that has a community that is void of primary care altogether and the fact that 90% of the care is delivered in places like Community Health Network. He also shares insights from the book “Things Never Change” that include an approach of focusing on how to effect REAL change on the healthcare requirements that won’t change such as quality, outcomes, access and cost transparency and then make a few strategic bets outside of that. This instead of fixating on the next shiny object or predicting what the next transformation will be. This episode delivers what you’ve come to expect from The Reverse Mullet Healthcare Podcast – the interchange of ideas, the laughter, and the candid discussions to show that learning can be as entertaining as it is impactful.

On the Road Edition - Live at ViVE, Episode 2With her mullet game strong and healthcare innovation insights even stronger, Dr. Arthi Masturzo, Chief Medical Officer at CCS, captivates us with tales from the frontlines of patient engagement. As we laugh our way through day three of VIVE 2024, Dr. Masturzo, alongside your @bp2health hosts Ellen Brown and Dave Pavlik, unveils her passion for integrating digital health technologies and AI into patient care, proving that the future of healthcare is as exciting as the hairdos at an '80s rock concert and special Billy Idol concert for VIVE attendees.Enjoy the revelations, where over 85% patient engagement isn't just a number—it's a reality for CCS under Dr. Masturzo's watch. This episode dives into the deep end of value-based care, patient interactions, and shares key findings from a groundbreaking study poised to revolutionize the care of individuals with diabetes and chronic conditions.

Get ready to unravel the intricacies of care coordination with the keen insights of Matt Miller from Connections Health Solutions. Join BP2 Health with your hosts—Justin Politi, Dave Pavlik and Ellen Brown as we share hearty laughs, neighborhood tales and lay out the facts. On this episode we will dive into the behavioral health crisis management model where strategy meets development as well as a random rendition of “Walk on the Ocean by Toad the Wet Sprocket. Some of the key themes we cover include:Expansion of crisis care legislation from only 6 states to over 30 in the past 18 monthsA recent PBS segment that featured AZ system for handling crisis including the industry leading Connections Health Solutions model where Matt leads Growth and DevelopmentSAMHSA 988 suicide and crisis line successes & opportunitiesUnderstanding that in a crisis there three key items -someone to call, someone to respond and a place to go without judgement, stigma or fearThe phenomenon on boarding in the ER and the need to eliminate itHow to integrate with first responders as a mental health facilityBeyond mental health - the need for improved care coordination overall with the focus on the consumerMeeting people where they areThe goal of making healthcare better for the consumer no matter the socioeconomic status of the personMatt’s desire to leave a legacy or working to remove the stigma surrounding behavioral health

On the Road Edition - Live at ViVE, Episode 1Ever wondered how the tides of healthcare can be turned by those at the helm? Join us for quick chat with John Couris, the trailblazing President and CEO of Florida Health Sciences Center, who's known in the industry to be driving change. He joins the BP2 Health team to forge into the heart of innovation, as John lays out a four-part framework that includes the unlikely pillar of embracing failure. He has a belief that if we take the time to learn from the missteps of the past we can fuel future breakthroughs. His candid nature and proactive approach in crafting a space for healthcare leaders to engage in transformative brainstorming sets the stage for a discussion brimming with insights and actionable strategies.John’s enthusiasm was palpable along with his fervent desire to elevate the industry. His readiness to assist and shape a more resilient healthcare landscape is infectious. The mini-episode will leave listeners wanting for more but not to fret, John accepted our invitation to return for a full episode. The exchange culminates in resounding applause, not just for our guest's dedication, but for the shared commitment to effecting REAL change in the industry. It's a session steeped in the spirit of collaboration, brimming with the collective ambition to inspire and implement meaningful transformations within the healthcare sector.

Nick Moriello, the savvy President of Highmark Blue Cross Blue Shield of Delaware joins the BP2 Health team for an episode that intertwines the serious business of health insurance with Nick’s love of sweet treats. Together, we navigate the labyrinth of consumer experiences in healthcare, scrutinize the vital roles of brokers and employers, and devour the complexities of health insurance with the same gusto we bring to the homemade treats that kick-off the episode. Nick's expertise, honed over years of leadership and entrepreneurial ventures, peppers our discussion as we explore ways to make financial growth and community health initiatives more relatable and effective.Prepare to uncover the secrets of human-centered design in healthcare, where we confront the reality that the consumer in the industry is multifaceted and includes the broker, employer, member, patient and provider—and each one affects their interaction with health insurance and healthcare differently. We dissect the nuances of fully insured versus self-funded employer plans, and how these choices affect everything from a person's pocketbook to their peace of mind. With Nick leading the charge, we examine how the personal touch in healthcare can lead to better engagement, outcomes, and ultimately, more affordable care for everyone involved.Concluding our lively talk, we step away from the spreadsheets and strategy sessions for a whimsical debate about the cultural phenomenon of Amish donuts. This lighthearted finale illustrates our belief that the healthcare industry isn't just about policies and plans—it's about the people (and the pleasures) that make life sweet. Join us and Nick Moriello for a podcast episode that promises to resonate with your intellect as much as it does with your sweet tooth, cementing our commitment effecting real change in the healthcare industry with every insight shared and donut compared.

When health care meets data with a side of humor, you get a discussion that's as entertaining as it is informative. Queue up our latest episode featuring Dr. Dan Elliott, the EMR and population health maestro and Chief Medical Officer from Delaware First Health (Centene). Dan brings his journey full circle, from the halls of Christiana Care to the studio with a whiteboard marker always at the ready, proving that an approachable focus on data can indeed drive serious improvements in patient care.Life's unexpected moments, like fostering nearly 250 dogs or transforming a basement into a soccer field for family fun, are the catalysts for deeper connections within our communities. Dan's eclectic mix of passions, from gardening figs to coordinating large family ski trips, paints a vibrant backdrop for our discussion on compassionate healthcare leadership. His stories remind us that joy and a well-lived life outside the clinic are the unsung heroes of patient care innovation.As we wrap up, we don't just share insights—we celebrate the synergy between providers and payers striving for a robust, primary care-focused healthcare system. Dr. Elliott's experiences, from both sides of the care continuum, underscore the collective journey towards a system that truly works for the patient. Recorded in the studio, where the power of in-person connection brings an extra dose of warmth to the healthcare narrative we're all a part of.

What makes an event worthy of an invite only $10,000 price tag with the local Holiday Inn charging $1500 per night? Apparently the JP Morgan Healthcare Event is worthy, and you will hear from Feby and Ellen about the 2024 edition. Next, imagine a world where healthcare does more than just treat illness, where it's reshaped into a system that truly prioritizes health. It's a topic we're passionate about with our clients at BP2 Health, and we're thrilled to share our latest conversation with Feby Abraham from Memorial Hermann Health System, who's helping to lead the charge toward this transformative vision. Our dialogue spans the nature of the JPMorgan Health Care Conference, exposing its behind-the-scenes dynamics, and extends into how risks in healthcare innovation can lead to significant advancements, despite the occasional setback.What does the intersection of healthcare and the Oscar-winning film 'Ford v Ferrari' look like? It's about the drive for excellence, something Abraham knows well, from his mechanical engineering background, his passion for motorsports and his work in value-based healthcare. Our discussion veers into the personal lanes of our lives too, sharing tales from the silver screen to the joy of parenting and the thrill of travel. These stories bring humanity back into the world of healthcare and remind us that beyond the policies and strategies, it's the individual experiences that truly define our approach to health and well-being. As we navigate the future of healthcare, the road is paved with innovation and partnerships. We examine Memorial Hermann's strategic mission to build healthier communities and how broadening healthcare assets and integrating technology can connect patients more effectively to the care they need. This episode isn't just about brainstorming the next big idea; it's about ensuring these innovations are adopted and make healthcare more accessible, affordable, and democratized. Join us for this invigorating exploration that promises to keep you engaged and perhaps even inspire you to be part of the change.

Embark on a journey through the multifaceted world of healthcare reform with us, as Colby Schaefer from Incline Actuarial Group joins the conversation. You're promised an enlightening mix of Colby's actuarial acumen as we explore the unwinding of Medicaid and its capitation rates, alongside the zest of his personal escapades, from baseball park hopping to Italian getaways. Brace yourself for a rollercoaster ride across the regulatory landscape, where we tackle the serious business of D-SNPs and LTSS programs, without losing the thread of storytelling that binds us all.As we navigate the episode, you'll uncover the model we've crafted with the Society of Actuaries, aimed at demystifying Medicaid's complexities. Discover the coined term 'durational triangle' and why it's a game-changer for understanding enrollment patterns and risk. We'll also dissect the ways in which Medicaid acts as a beacon for healthcare innovation, and how primary care is revolutionizing the way we think about and manage health outcomes.Concluding our session, Colby's insights, coupled with our own fervor for change, spotlight Medicaid's pivotal role in transforming healthcare. The partners of bp2 Health Ellen Brown, Justin Politi and Dave Pavlik, invite you to continue this vital discussion beyond the airwaves, and thank Colby for enriching our dialogue with his expertise and riveting life stories. Tune in to unravel the complex tapestry of healthcare, where innovation meets personal narrative, and every listener is left with a newfound perspective.

Ever wondered how your dinner plate can transform your health? Get ready to unravel the surprising connection between agriculture and healthcare with Carter Williams, a visionary at the confluence of these fields. The Reverse Mullet Healthcare Podcast Hosts, Ellen Brown, Justin Politi and Dave Pavlik, indulge in a stimulating conversation that promises to defy your expectations of the typical healthcare delivery dialogue. We're bringing food to the forefront of our value-based care discussion, inspired by Carter's rich background, from Boeing Ventures to the innovative iSelect Fund, and paralleling his sailing adventures with the challenges of nurturing health through nutrition. Hear Carter reflect on his personal journey from problem-solving around the family dinner table to pioneering Lean Six Sigma methodologies that rejuvenated military aircraft. This episode isn't just a trip down memory lane; it's an eye-opener to the potential of agricultural technology and healthy eating as cornerstones of value-based healthcare. We're not shying away from the stark reality of ultra-processed foods' impact on our society – thank you Mark Hyman for the statistics. Instead, we're taking a hard look at the repercussions and championing the vital role food plays in mitigating chronic health issues. Finally, we sail into the horizon of regenerative agriculture's role in value-based care and the burgeoning “Food is Medicine” movement with insights from Erin Martin's work with Midwest farmers. Imagine grocery stores doubling as health advisors, and GLP-1 medications reshaping our taste buds for the better. This episode isn't just a discussion; it's an exploration of the possibilities hidden within our meals, an invitation to view food as the first line of defense in our health arsenal. Join us for a conversation that's sure to feed your curiosity and perhaps even change the way you think about your next meal. 

When healthcare industry stalwart Mike Barrett joins the conversation, you know you're in for an enlightening exchange. Our jaunt began with Mike sharing his wealth of knowledge from Centene's ACO division and NACOs—yet what really set the tone was the quirky tale behind our podcast's name, Reverse Mullet Healthcare. We're bringing you a blend of humor and hard-hitting discourse on the intricacies of the healthcare system as Mike dissects the financial stress on both employees and employers, and the looming question of whether traditional employer-sponsored healthcare can endure the test of time.  As Mike peels back the layers of healthcare's financial complexities, a vision for a revamped system emerges. We chew over the potential implications of cultural norms that have historically favored reactive sickness care over proactive wellness, and the seismic shifts that may come if employers reevaluate the role they play in their employees' healthcare. Join us for a candid look at the pressures reshaping the responsibilities of payers in the health landscape.  Fasten your seatbelts for a glimpse into the future, where "Consumer Direct 2.0" heralds a new epoch of patient-centric healthcare, with technology at the helm of this transformation. We spotlight innovations racing to keep pace with consumer expectations—think virtual clinics and outpatient services for procedures once synonymous with lengthy hospital stays. As we wrap up, chuckles are shared over our own health habits that might not yet be up to par, reminding us that the journey to better health is both personal and universal. It’s not just a podcast; it's a rallying cry to rethink how we approach healthcare, together with Mike Barrett, Ellen Brown, Dave Pavlik, and Justin Politi.

When Dr. Carol Pittman rolled up her sleeves to reveal a shared love for national parks and motorcycles and a wealth of knowledge on patient engagement, we knew it was going to be an unforgettable episode. Join Justin Politi, Dave Pavlik, and Ellen Brown, as we harness our collective 90 years of healthcare expertise to discuss the heart of healthcare transformation with Carol. With laughter and personal anecdotes, we weave through the serious topic of how patients and healthcare providers can “rev up” their relationship for better outcomes. Navigating the healthcare landscape can feel like trying to find your balance on a Harley Fat Boy, but with Carol's insights, we shed light on the varying terrains of patient engagement. From the seasoned tracks of Florida's value-based care to the emerging paths in Nevada and beyond, we explore how regional experiences impact patient participation. And with COVID-19 reshaping expectations and a primary care physician shortage to boot, we dissect these challenges and the importance of building trust and co-creating treatment plans for chronic condition management. To finish it out, we underscore the parallels of successful engagement to the 'reverse mullet' philosophy —social connections (fun) in the front, medical discussion (business) in the back. Kick back, tune in, and let's continue the ride beyond the airwaves with Dr, Pittman and the BP2 Health team. Keep the conversation going and reach out through our website—this is a dialogue that's just too good to end with a podcast sign-off.

Remember when Thanksgiving was all about the turkey mishaps and family games? Well, we're bringing that same heartfelt, memory-making energy to the Reverse Mullet Health Care Podcast. Ellen Brown, Justin Politi, and Dave Pavlik, are here combining decades of healthcare experience with the warmth of shared laughter and Casey Kasem-style dedications. We're reflecting on the monumental healthcare moments of 2023 and peering into the crystal ball for what 2024 may hold, all while keeping the spirit of our favorite holiday alive.  With healthcare inflation taking a surprising dip yet the workforce bracing for a shortage, it's a recipe for one topsy-turvy industry stew. Our dialogue navigates the choppy waters of rising professional wages versus administrative pink slips, examining how the healthcare landscape is morphing before our eyes. And as we wave goodbye to the unicorn startups that couldn't quite gallop into success, we ponder the impact of AI's rise and fall on our sector and how it's reshaping the tech terrain.  Finally, what's a future without predictions? We lay out our forecasts, from Obamacare's potential makeover to the burgeoning 'food as medicine' movement, all while keeping our fingers crossed for healthcare wearables that could revolutionize our well-being. And because we can't help but dream big, we dream up a slate of guests who could grace our mics in the new year – think industry mavericks, comic legends, and everyone in between. 

Imagine dining at a steakhouse with a group of friends, and the conversation takes a sudden turn into the world of healthcare analytics but with a boring button at the ready. That's precisely the experience you'll have with the partners of BP2 Health during this podcast episode. They share their amusing rendezvous at Berns Steakhouse while seamlessly linking the chit-chat to the complex yet vital world of healthcare analytics. As usual the team manages to go from $40,000 bottles wine and dessert rooms to AI, ACGs, HCCs and the need for analytics to understand fee schedules, mitigate risks and reduce healthcare spend. Join them as they uncover discuss another topic with the potential to drive real change in the industry. 

Ready to revolutionize the future of healthcare with a little help from AI? Join us as our co-hosts discuss how artificial intelligence can alleviate administrative burdens, optimize telehealth services, and even pave the way for change in underserved communities. We're not just talking about the possibilities - we're actively exploring the solutions, the challenges, and how we can collaborate to reduce costs while not losing sight of patient care.  Ever wondered how major brands like Walmart might play a part in this healthcare revolution? We discuss their game-changing potential and how their disruptive influence could improve access to care, especially when combined with advancements like new weight loss drugs. But it isn't going to be easy. We also delve into the digital challenges faced by rural areas and explore some of what needs to be addressed to move forward. 

In this episode, our co-hosts are taking on the megatopic of technology and its evolving impact on healthcare. From new products and operational technology to AI and consumer products, including Ellen's favorite -- wearables! -- the BP2 team isn't shy about taking on the topic of technology from all angles. But not before they reminisce a little bit about the early days of BP2 (and all the magical moments and mayhem that ensued).Ellen Brown, Justin Politi, and Dave Pavlik bring their 90 collective years of healthcare experience to BP2 Health where they're on a mission to effect real change in the industry. Connect with BP2 Health Here: https://bp2health.com/contact/

In this episode of The Reverse Mullet Podcast, co-hosts Ellen, Justin, and Dave are diving into value-based contracting. In the uniquely informative yet actually interesting way only they can approach such a complex topic in healthcare, the BP2 team asks the tough questions. What's taking so long, why isn't VBC evolving fast enough and how are they approaching it in a successful way with their clients?Ellen Brown, Justin Politi, and Dave Pavlik bring their 90 collective years of healthcare experience to BP2 Health where they're on a mission to effect real change in the industry. Connect with BP2 Health Here: https://bp2health.com/contact/

In this episode of The Reverse Mullet Podcast, co-hosts Ellen, Justin, and Dave take on innovation in the healthcare industry--it's benefits and challenges. With their signature "party in the front, business in the back" approach, they discuss why it's not all about the shiny objects when it comes to innovation, but possibly something far more seemingly "boring" where the real potential in healthcare innovation lies.Ellen Brown, Justin Politi, and Dave Pavlik bring their 90 collective years of healthcare experience to BP2 Health where they're on a mission to effect real change in the industry. Connect with BP2 Health Here: https://bp2health.com/contact/

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