The Run Out

This week Rob Pannell passed Paul Rabil for the all-time points record in pro field lacrosse, and we get into all of it: breaking it with a goal instead of an assist, the Whipsnakes' 20-7 demolition of the Redwoods, and what it says that he did it in a blowout instead of coasting once the team had it locked up.That turns into a real Mount Rushmore conversation. Where does Pannell actually rank all time? We argue about Gary Gait, John Grant Jr, Mark Millon, Lyle Thompson, and Mikey Powell, and land on an Emmitt Smith comparison we think actually fits.On the field, the Utah Archers throttled Philadelphia 18-8 behind a Tre LeClaire revival, and we finally ask the question seriously: when does Brett Dobson get into the MVP conversation with CJ Kirst? Boston beat up on a New York Atlas team that once again has more name recognition than results, and we debate who we trust more down the stretch, Utah or Boston.The WLL delivered one of its best games of the inaugural season. Maryland's Brigid Duffy and Boston's Rachel Clark both put up historic stat lines in the same game, records fell everywhere, and the Charm clinched a spot in the first ever WLL Championship.We also cover the Rochester Knighthawks bringing back their teal and purple colors, a report that other teams offered Ottawa as many as five first round picks for Jeff Teat, a scary injury to Carolina's Jack Rowlett, and the NLL's newest Hall of Fame class. If you want to keep arguing about any of this after the episode ends, that's what the Lax Lifers Club is for. Join Here

All-Star Weekend gave us the same story it always seems to give us: the women showed up, and the men did not. Team Izzy beat Team Humphrey 16-15 on a Marie McCool buzzer beater, and it was everything the PLL All-Star Game wasn't. The men finished 12-9, shot a combined 19% and 18%, and four minutes in, Marcus Holman told the country everybody was hungover. We get into why that game keeps missing and what we'd actually do to fix it.The skills contests didn't fare much better. A busted radar gun turned the fastest shot competition into a slog, the accuracy challenge is still not actually testing accuracy, and we pitch a few ways the whole weekend could be built out into something worth attending, fireworks included.On the field, the MVP conversation is heating up. CJ Kirst is doing things we haven't seen since Jeff Teat's record season, Dylan Ward and Brett Dobson deserve to be in that conversation too, and we argue about where the line is for guys who front-load their stats in one or two big games.Adam Lamberti's early draft big board is out, and it sent us down a rabbit hole about the Outlaws sitting on two first round picks next year, thanks to the trade that sent Ryan Cross to Denver. We also cover the Zach Carey report on Tom Schreiber and Grant Ament, and why an Olympic year retirement is starting to feel more likely than a return.We close out looking ahead to this weekend's slate in Chicago: five games including Utah-New York and California-Philly, plus win-or-be-in-real-trouble stakes in the WLL between Maryland and New York. Join us in the Lax Lifers Club to keep the conversation going all week. Join Here

The biggest name in the sport went down. Charlotte North tore her Achilles in the fourth quarter of the WLL game in Charlotte, and she is out for the season and the women's world championship later this summer. Neil was at the games, didn't know who it was at first, and ended up being the ones to break the news to a crowd of little girls waiting in autograph alley to meet her. We get into what it means, why it stings for a league still finding its footing, and the case for why a pivot might actually be good for the WLL long term.The defending champion Atlas are in a full blown free fall. Three straight losses, last in the East, worst score differential in the league. Everyone wants to blame Jeff Teat being out and Gavin Adler being gone. We don't buy it. This roster still has three PLL MVPs on it, and we get into why the "missing guys" excuse only goes so far when you're sitting at the bottom of the barrel.The MVP race is heating up and the early favorite might surprise you. CJ Kirst dropped his first career sock trick in a Water Dogs blowout and leads the league in points per game. We run through the whole board: Dylan Ward, Michael Sowers, Mike Siselberger, Trevor Baptiste, Brett Dobson, and a Brett Maycar long shot. If the season ended today, we tell you who we'd actually vote for.Plus the Utah Archers keep doing the impossible on defense, Mac O'Keefe ties the single game goal record, and we ask whether any of it is real or a Carolina-shaped red herring. Chad Palumbo had his coming out party. Matt Rambo scored a goal for the first time in roughly 600 days. The rookies have arrived, and we make the case for expanding game day rosters. Also a fully unplanned pineapple segment, because that's just where we ended up.New episode out now. The Lax Lifers Club is where we keep talking lacrosse all week. Join Here