The Saved for Later Podcast

Send us Fan MailWhat is salvation, really? For most of my life as an atheist, the concept seemed ridiculous—a made-up story to keep people in line. But after coming to faith in my 40s, I still had to know the answer. The truth God provides in the Bible is more profound and paradoxical than I ever imagined.In this honest look, I share the full biblical answer to "What is Salvation?" and explain the incredible truth I discovered: that the primary thing we need to be saved from... is the consuming holiness of a good and loving God.This episode is the result of my search for answers. We'll explore why people throughout the Bible were terrified of encountering God, and how the entire story of the Old Testament—from the covenant at Mount Sinai, to the intricate details of the Tabernacle, to the seemingly brutal system of animal sacrifice—was God's gracious plan to solve one impossible problem: How can a perfectly holy God dwell with the people He loves without destroying them?Join me on this journey as we uncover how I came to understand that sacrifice wasn't a cruel demand, but a profound GIFT of grace. We’ll connect the temporary solution in Exodus and Leviticus to the permanent, final sacrifice of Jesus Christ, and reveal what "being saved" truly means: not just a ticket to heaven, but a radical adoption into the family of God.✝️ CHAPTERS00:00 My Journey from Atheism to Faith00:53 Why Do We Need to Be Saved?03:57 The Terrifying Encounters with God06:23 The Story of Mount Sinai09:10 The Covenant and the Golden Calf20:21 God's Solution: The Gift of Sacrifice26:44 The Ultimate Sacrifice: Jesus Christ30:26 The Gospel and Our Adoption into God's Family32:30 Final Thoughts and Encouragement➡️ CONNECT & ASK QUESTIONSHave questions after watching? Contact me directly through my website, no matter how old this episode is.Website: https://www.savedforlater.orgIf this content was valuable to you, please consider liking this video and subscribing to the channel for more deep dives into the Bible from a perspective for those on the "outside."This episode explores the full meaning of salvation and the gospel for new believers, skeptics, and anyone deconstructing their faith. We answer difficult questions about Christianity, including: What is atonement? Why did God require blood sacrifice? How can God be both just and merciful? This Bible study provides a deep dive into the books of Exodus and Leviticus to reveal the doctrine of salvation and propitiation through Jesus Christ. If you are a former atheist, a doubter with questions, or a Christian seeking a deeper understanding of the Old Testament's connection to the New Testament, this message is for you. Learn about God's holiness, His wrath against sin, and His incredible grace, which provides a way for us to be saved from God, by God.#Salvation, #Gospel, #Theology, #FormerAtheist, #BibleStudy, #ChristianityExplained, #WhatIsSalvation, #JesusChrist, #OldTestamentFollow me on: YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@savedforlaterpodcastFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/kindall21/Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/brianmichaelkindall/Blog - https://www.savedforlater.org

Send us Fan Mail We’ve made salvation too easy—and that’s not a compliment. We’ve told people they’re saved because they repeated a few words or raised their hands during a worship song. But salvation was never meant to be a spiritual transaction—it’s a total surrender. If your faith never demanded anything of you… are you sure it’s real?In this episode, I break down why saying you're a Christian isn’t the same as following Christ. We’ll unpack repentance, surrender, discipleship, and the evidence that salvation actually happened—fruit. This isn’t about perfection. It’s about transformation.This is the first part of a two-part series on salvation—what it’s not, and what it must be if you’re serious about following Jesus.What I cover in this episode:Why asking for forgiveness isn’t the finish lineWhat happens when the Gospel gets reduced to a pitchThe connection between Lordship and fruitWhat’s missing in so many altar callsWhy a Christian life without change isn’t Christian at all⏱ Timestamps 00:00 – Introduction: What to Look for in Your Next Church and Pastor 00:13 – The Sinner's Prayer: An Overview 00:52 – Critique of the Sinner's Prayer 02:24 – The Biblical Perspective on Salvation 12:15 – The Importance of Repentance 15:36 – Transformation and Sanctification 20:01 – Conclusion: The True Call to Follow Jesus 22:41 – Final Thoughts and Call to Action📖 Key Scriptures Romans 10:9 | Matthew 7:21–23 | Luke 9:57–62 | Galatians 2:20 | John 15:4–5 | Matthew 16:24–25 | 1 Peter 1:14–16 | Romans 12:1 | Galatians 5:22–25🎙️ Subscribe to the Save for Later Podcast for more episodes that cut through shallow faith and get to what Jesus actually called us to: a life of obedience, transformation, and total surrender.Follow me on: YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@savedforlaterpodcastFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/kindall21/Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/brianmichaelkindall/Blog - https://www.savedforlater.org

Send us Fan MailWhat should a real pastor look like?In this episode, I sit down with my own pastor, Jared Verwiel of Tulsa Bible Church, to cut through the spiritual posturing and power games that infect far too many pulpits. We talk real ministry — not performance, not personality cults, and definitely not spiritual manipulation. Just biblical shepherding.This conversation isn’t theory. It’s raw insight from someone in the trenches — and a reminder that not every church is a circus. Some pastors still preach the Word and carry the weight of souls with reverent fear.🔹 Topics include: – Spiritual abuse and church hurt – The human side of pastoral ministry – What shepherding really means – Why non-denominational doesn’t mean unaccountable – When church leadership goes toxic📖 Key Scriptures: 1 Peter 5:2–3 – “Shepherd the flock of God that is among you… not domineering over those in your charge.” John 10:11 – “I am the good shepherd…”00:00 Introduction and Upcoming Sermon00:31 Welcome to The Saved For Later Podcast00:40 Finding a New Church00:59 Interview with Pastor Jared Verwiel06:13 Pastoral Ministry and Responsibilities07:43 Non-Denominational Church Dynamics12:35 Handling Church Conflicts23:25 Sunday Sermon Preparation35:55 Navigating Multiple Teaching Pastors36:15 The Pastor's Testimony37:41 Discovering Faith in College41:49 Journey to Ministry45:29 Seminary Experience and Education50:00 The Importance of Church Community57:12 Unity in the Church01:07:52 The Call to Pastoral Ministry01:13:02 Final Thoughts and Farewell 🔗 Visit my Website: www.savedforlater.org 💬 Leave a comment or review 📤 Share this episode with someone who needs it 🎧 Watch or listen to the Saved for Later Podcast on all podcast platformsFollow me on: YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@savedforlaterpodcastFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/kindall21/Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/brianmichaelkindall/Blog - https://www.savedforlater.org

Send us Fan MailThinking about going back to church? Or stepping into one for the first time? Slow down — this episode might save you from walking into a spiritual trap.There are a thousand churches that look good on the outside but are spiritually bankrupt on the inside. This episode tackles the uncomfortable truth: not every church that uses the name of Jesus actually teaches His gospel. We’ll talk about how to spot spiritual entertainment vs. genuine biblical discipleship, and why “just trying church” isn’t enough if your soul’s at stake.🔹 Topics include: – Why your eternity demands a wise church choice – What the New Testament actually says about the church – Red flags in the modern Western church – Why symptom management is not the gospel – How to pursue long-term transformation over quick fixes📖 Key Scriptures: Matthew 28:18–20 – The Great Commission Romans 12:4–5 – The Body of Christ Revelation 21:2 – The Bride of Christ🔗 Visit my Website: www.savedforlater.org 💬 Leave a comment or review 📤 Share this episode with someone who needs it 🎧 Watch or listen to the Saved for Later Podcast on all podcast platformsFollow me on: YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@savedforlaterpodcastFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/kindall21/Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/brianmichaelkindall/Blog - https://www.savedforlater.org

Send us Fan MailValerie Duran shouldn’t be alive. Her blood pressure was so high, doctors didn’t expect her to survive the stroke — let alone speak again, walk again, or teach teenagers about the gospel. But God had other plans.In this raw and powerful interview, Valerie shares her medical trauma, spiritual journey, and the slow, miraculous road back to life, faith, and purpose. This isn’t a polished testimony. It’s a survivor’s honest account of brokenness, shame, hope, and transformation — and how suffering brought her face-to-face with Christ.🔹 Topics include: – Life after a massive hemorrhagic stroke – Losing speech, memory, and independence – The painful return to faith through disability – How God used her healing to reach others – The unlikely journey from victim to ministry📖 Key Scriptures: Romans 5:3–5 – “Suffering produces endurance… character… hope.” 2 Corinthians 12:9 – “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Psalm 73:26 – “My flesh and my heart may fail, but God is the strength of my heart…” 🔗 Visit my Website: www.savedforlater.org 💬 Leave a comment or review 📤 Share this episode with someone who needs it 🎧 Watch or Listen to the Saved for Later Podcast on all podcast platforms Follow me on: YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@savedforlaterpodcastFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/kindall21/Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/brianmichaelkindall/Blog - https://www.savedforlater.org

Send us Fan MailForgiveness isn’t optional. It’s not a nice suggestion or a spiritual upgrade for the super-devoted. According to Scripture, it’s the dividing line between those who follow Christ and those who don’t.In this episode, I expose why our refusal to forgive usually isn’t about the offense — it’s about our lack of faith in God’s justice. We want control. We want revenge. But God wants obedience. If you're still holding onto that wound, that betrayal, or that grudge, this episode may hurt a little… but it might save your soul.🔹 Topics include: – Why forgiveness is a faith issue, not just an emotional one – What Scripture actually says about forgiving enemies – The difference between justification and sanctification – Why “I’ll never forgive them” is a statement you should fear – Practical steps for walking through forgiveness without compromise📖 Key Scriptures: Matthew 6:14–15, Matthew 5:44–45, Acts 3:19, Romans 12:19, Ephesians 4:22–24 🔗 Visit my Website: www.savedforlater.org 💬 Leave a comment or review 📤 Share this episode with someone who needs it 🎧 Watch or Listen to the Saved for Later Podcast on all podcast platforms Follow me on: YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@savedforlaterpodcastFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/kindall21/Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/brianmichaelkindall/Blog - https://www.savedforlater.org

Send us Fan MailWe’ve all heard it — “Christianity would be great if not for all the Christians.” In this episode, I face that accusation head-on… because it’s not entirely wrong.This isn’t just about bad behavior. It’s about biblical ignorance, spiritual laziness, and a culture of easy answers that turns Christians into walking contradictions. If we don’t read the Word, test the spirits, or know the real Jesus, we end up worshiping a god of our own invention — and giving ammunition to every skeptic watching us.This episode exposes how false teachers and lazy disciples fuel the world’s hatred of the church — and why knowing your Bible is the only way to change the story.🔹 Topics include: – The real source of anti-Christian hostility – False teachers and spiritual counterfeits – Why Christians themselves often defame the name of Jesus – How to recognize deception in the church – The #1 rule of Christianity — and why we keep breaking it📖 Key Scriptures: Matthew 24:4–5, Romans 16:17–18, 2 Corinthians 11:13–15, 1 John 4:1, Jeremiah 23:26–40 🔗 Visit my Website: www.savedforlater.org 💬 Leave a comment or review 📤 Share this episode with someone who needs it 🎧 Watch or Listen to the Saved for Later Podcast on all podcast platforms Follow me on: YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@savedforlaterpodcastFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/kindall21/Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/brianmichaelkindall/Blog - https://www.savedforlater.org

Send us Fan MailSome people lose everything—and somehow still praise God.This episode explores why.In a world addicted to comfort and terrified of pain, many churches quietly teach that “faith” means life gets better. But that’s not biblical. That’s a lie. What happens when suffering comes anyway? What happens when the storm doesn’t pass?In this raw episode, I unpack what real joy looks like in the life of a true believer. Not fake joy. Not social-media smiles. Not shallow theology built on clichés. Real, unshakable joy rooted in something eternal.We’ll also witness one of the most powerful modern examples of Christian endurance I’ve ever seen. It’ll stop you in your tracks.🔸 Why joy isn’t the same as happiness 🔸 How prosperity theology sets people up to lose their faith 🔸 Where real hope is found—even in grief 🔸 What Jesus actually promised (and didn’t) 🔸 And how the Gospel gives us joy that survives the fire⏱️ Chapters: 00:00 – Introduction and Housekeeping 01:11 – The Misconception of Prosperity Theology 03:31 – True Joy in Faith and God's Promises 08:03 – Biblical Examples of Endurance and Joy 16:11 – Modern Example of Faith Amidst Tragedy 25:13 – Conclusion and Call to Action🔗 Visit my Website: www.savedforlater.org 💬 Leave a comment or review 📤 Share this episode with someone who needs it 🎧 Watch or listen to the Saved for Later Podcast on all podcast platforms Follow me on: YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@savedforlaterpodcastFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/kindall21/Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/brianmichaelkindall/Blog - https://www.savedforlater.org

Send us Fan MailThis is the episode I’ve been waiting to share — the story of how a lifelong atheist, proud of his rebellion and certain of his intellect, came to believe that Jesus Christ is exactly who He said He was.I wasn’t looking for God. I was too busy selling lies, chasing ego, and mocking Christians. But God broke through anyway. In this episode, I walk you through the moments that shook me awake — from a bumper sticker at a stoplight to an unexpected phone call that cracked my heart wide open.This is not just a testimony. It’s a challenge to anyone who thinks Christianity is irrational, emotional, or blind. Because for me, coming to faith meant confronting every argument I once used to avoid the truth.🔹 Topics include: – My descent into pride, performance, and spiritual emptiness – The unexpected signs that forced me to reconsider – Why atheism eventually broke down under its own weight – How God used reason, not religion, to break through – What finally made me say yes to Jesus📖 Key Scriptures: Mark 5:19–20, Romans 1:20, John 6:44 🔗 Visit my Website: www.savedforlater.org 💬 Leave a comment or review 📤 Share this episode with someone who needs it 🎧 Watch or listen to the Saved for Later Podcast on all podcast platforms Follow me on: YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@savedforlaterpodcastFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/kindall21/Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/brianmichaelkindall/Blog - https://www.savedforlater.org

Send us Fan Mail“If God is real, then why…?” You’ve heard it. Maybe you’ve asked it. In this episode, I confront the most common objection to the Christian faith — the existence of evil, pain, and suffering — and I do it without hiding behind Sunday school clichés or blind faith.This one’s personal. I used to use the problem of evil as a battering ram against Christianity. But when God dismantled my worldview and I actually read the Bible, I found something I wasn’t expecting: a deeper, better answer.This episode lays the groundwork for understanding a God who is both good and sovereign in a world that’s undeniably broken.🔹 Topics include: – Why the "God vs. evil" argument misunderstands God entirely – What Genesis 1 really demands we accept – How free will, sin, and love are inseparably connected – Why evil doesn't disprove God — it confirms what Scripture says – My personal journey from using this question to silencing it📖 Key Scriptures: Genesis 1:1, John 16:33, Romans 5:12, 2 Corinthians 4:17, Revelation 21:4 🔗 Visit my Website: www.savedforlater.org 💬 Leave a comment or review 📤 Share this episode with someone who needs it 🎧 Watch or Listen to the Saved for Later Podcast on all podcast platforms Follow me on: YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@savedforlaterpodcastFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/kindall21/Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/brianmichaelkindall/Blog - https://www.savedforlater.org

Send us Fan MailMany of us didn’t grow up in church. We weren’t raised with flannel graphs, memory verses, or altar calls. We found Jesus later — sometimes painfully so — after spending years worshiping ourselves. In this episode, I share the raw beginnings of my faith journey as a former atheist and explain why this podcast exists at all.I also lay the groundwork for what it means to follow Christ in a world that’s grown hostile or indifferent to truth. This one’s for the seekers, the skeptics, and the seasoned Christians wondering what kind of gospel I’m preaching. Mount up. This will be interesting.🔹 Topics include: – My unexpected conversion at age 42 – Why cultural Christianity is failing – Global shifts in the faith – The urgent need for real discipleship📖 Key Scriptures: Matthew 16:18 – “I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” Ephesians 2:1–5 – “But God, being rich in mercy…”🔗 Visit my Website: www.savedforlater.org 💬 Leave a comment or review 📤 Share this episode with someone who needs it 🎧 Watch or listen to the Saved for Later Podcast on all podcast platformsFollow me on: YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@savedforlaterpodcastFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/kindall21/Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/brianmichaelkindall/Blog - https://www.savedforlater.org