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The Secret Podcast

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Back in 1982 a man named Byron Priess decided it would be a good idea to publish a treasure hunt. He spent a year or so traveling around the country, burying small ceramic boxes two feet underground. He wrote a few poems, and had a friend of his paint some images. The goal was to get the reader to match a poem with a verse, produce a treasure map of sorts, then go dig up the treasures.He thought it would be easy.40 years later we are finding out he was wrong.So far two treasures have been found. One in Chicago, and one in Cleveland… so at least we know they are real. That’s about all we know for sure.This project started with Byron recruiting a bunch of his friends. Sean and Ted to write some descriptions of strange creatures that Byron’s friend JoEllen sculpted out of clay and cloth, which were photographed by his childhood friend Ben. Then Byron’s friends John Palencar, John Pierard, and Overton Loyd made a bunch of images with the sole purpose of confusing all of us.The proj

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Episodes

  1. 52. Bye Cole

    Cole says goodbye to the Secret community.

  2. Secret Pod…Casque?

    Shortly before his passing, JM decided he wanted to start a new podcast. He recorded his first episode, but passed away before he could complete any others.Very few people have heard it, so we decided it might be a nice idea to release his raw audio for all of you to hear. please not this audio…

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  3. 51. The Cleveland meetup interview and questions

    George, Brian Zinn, Andy Abrams, John Jude Palencar, and Kit Palencar discuss fame, infamy, rumors, facts, and go in depth about how Byron Preiss created his treasure hunt called The Secret.

  4. 50. Six years in San Francisco

    Six long years were spent working on this simple little idea, then getting the permission to explore it. Join Brett, Matt, and George as they talk about one small city block in the heart of San Francisco.

  5. How Boston was Found with Jason Krupat

    How the Boston treasure was found in Jason's own words.

  6. 48. Nirvana vs. Silverchair

    Nivana vs. Silverchair, Canada vs. St. Louis, 5 vs. 8. Cole and George have a civil conversation while disagreeing on the fundamentals of things which do not matter... and wonder why others can't do the same thing.

  7. 47. The Mental Health episode

    May is mental health awareness month and in this first of two part series devoted to mental health in the treasure hunting community, George and Rachel talk to a Therapist who specializes in addiction and addiction behaviors. We talk about some of the things we have seen and experienced, in a...

  8. The Golden Apple Tale

    Forty years ago a book titled The Golden Apple tale was released. Sold only by order forms in the back of magazines, only one physical copy is known to exist. For years no one has known who wrote this book, or if the treasure was still available. Today those questions are answered.

  9. 46. The St. Augustine One – An interview with John Jude Palencar

    How in the world did George Ward get invited to John Palencar's studio? Join George as he talks with John Palencar about Chicago, Boston, and Cleveland. Three of the solved puzzles from The Secret A Treasure Hunt.

  10. 45. An Evening with Cole May

    Awhile back Cole started a tradition of recording single episodes talking with a single person about what drew them into the hunt, and their experiences along the way. Cole started the 'Evening with' series, and its only fitting that he should have his own.

  11. 44. Did Alex find the Roanoke treasure?

    According the the GPR... There is something in the park. It's right under home plate. Is it a casque? It would make sense.Join to podcast as we talk to Alex Sweeny about a trip he recently took with George to Roanoke. They were sure they would come home with a casque, but they didn't... now its...

  12. 43. Secret adventures with Ben and Joellen

    This week we talk to Ben Asen and Joellen Trilling about the adventures they shared shooting images for Byron Preiss' The Secret Treasure Hunt. MW's Masquerade TRibute Hunt: https://mysteriouswritings.com/the-annual-masquerade-tribute-of-treasure-hunts/ FOLLOW US ELSEWHERE...

  13. 42. An Evening with Kit Palencar

    In this episode we talk to Kit Palencar about the creation of the Tribute Treasure hunt. How he got started, how he created the painting, and what's coming in the future. Will there be a new painting? Will everything change? Will it ever be found? Just a note, people seemed upset about all the…

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  14. 41. The Secret of Byron Preiss Documentary review

    George, Matt, Brett, and Cole review the Feature length documentary by James Renner, The Secret of Byron Preiss.... or Bryon Preiss? Look... you aren't going to believe what's in this, just listen to the episode.

  15. 40. The NY Meetup with Andy and Ben

    On 10/23/21 George and Bradley interviewed Ben Asen and Andy Abrams for the first and last New York meetup. This audio was recorded live.

  16. 39. Did we find the books Byron used to create the Secret?

    After years of telling listeners to use reference material from the 80's Cory Gilbert decided to do just that. Inside his World Book Encyclopedia he found direct links to the puzzle, and what may very well be Byron's reference material!

  17. 38. Storyland’s Hidden Treasures

    Join George, Bradley, Stephen, Ashley, Brody, Brandon, and Chad as they talk about nursery rhymes. Because that is something that adults do. This is how the Boston Solution works. Hopefully it helps you along your search. FOLLOW US ELSEWHERE…

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  18. 37. Let’s talk Amphitheaters

    Join George, Bradley, Brett and Stephen Poff as they talk about the long lost amphitheater gardens and why we think the casque may not be buried in the Fountain of Youth.

  19. 36. An Evening with John Jude Palencar

    Join George and Bradley as they talk with John Jude Palencar, the artist behind the infamous paintings in Byron Preiss' treasure hunt The Secret. Are the cities correct? How did Byron bury Cleveland? Is there a method to this madness? Dive in and find out.

  20. The Great US Treasure Hunt with Kristian House

    Woah! One of our listeners actually solved something! That's so cool!! In this episode Brett and George interview recent Great US Treasure Hunt Winner Kristian House, who had never even heard of the hunt before listening to our previous episode with David Steele. How did he solve it? What does it...

  21. The Great US Treasure Hunt with David Steele

    Did you guys know there are treasure hunts other than the Secret? I didn’t. But apparently there are! In this special episode George and Brett interview the Co-creator of The Great US Treasure hunt, a hunt inspired in part by the Secret. Are there any hints in this episode? Who knows? We don’t…

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  22. 34. A conversation with William Stout

    On this episode we have a conversation with Byron's best friend, William Stout. This episode was recorded almost two years ago! It took a long time for me to get proper permissions from people and do some editing. A good bit of this interview had to be cut out, but hopefully we can revisit these...

  23. 31. An Evening with Bradley Hodges

    Hey guys, we have a lot going on right now, so we weren't able to dive deep into a hardcore secret episode. But we didnt want to leave you hanging, so we thought we would start a new tradition and bring you an interview of one of our hosts. Everyone climb into bed, get cozy, and prepare to spend…

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  24. 30. The Secret Podcast Tonight – Like, Totally Confused!

    Oh my god, That JJP interview like, totally blew our minds! Join George, Brett, Kit and Bradley as we try our best to unpack it all! For sure! https://12treasures.com https://patreon.com/secrettreasure https://www.facebook.com/groups/thesecrettreasures http://www.youtube.com/c/TheSecrettreasurehunt

  25. 29. The Secret Guide to the Fair Guide

    The back of the book is the Secret's apocalyptic document. Love it or hate it, it's there. The question is... should we use it to help us? Join George, Bradley, Seeds, Karleen, and Carly as we discuss the Fair Guide. https://12treasures.com https://patreon.com/secrettreasure...

  26. 28. An Evening with George

    In this episode, fellow keysearcher Cole May puts our host George Ward on the other side of the mic to answer some questions about his techniques in solving the puzzles, as well as his experiences with the hunt, the Facebook pages he is admin for, and why he doesn't think the St Augustine casque…

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  27. 27. A fresh take on Charleston

    Hey Y’all. This week the podcast starts a new series where we ask newer hunters to share their ideas about the cities they are working on. Listen in as we talk about Charleston with Christopher Pierce and Brian Mills. We may not agree with all their ideas, but discussion never hurt anyone. The...

  28. 26. Hey youz guyz, lets talk Baston

    Hey yo, it's time to go back to Baston! Dis episode wez discuss da Baston episode of Expedition Unknown. What deyz got right, what deyz got wrang, and the fallout that swept across the secret lands. Youz guyz crack open a Sam Adams, pop on some Dropkick Murphys and dive in with us....

  29. 25. The Fountain of Youth Meetup

    WE'RE DOING IT LIVE! Join us as we talk to John Fraser, owner of the Fountain of Youth, and Brian Zinn who found the cleveland casque, about the history of the hunt at the Fountain of Youth during our first ever live recording of The Secret Podcast.

  30. 24. New members, old questions.

    OH MY GOD! New members have flooded the facebook pages by the thousands. New hunters are clamoring out their doors to venture into their local parks, and the all have the same questions. Where can I get a book? How can I contact Josh Gates? Why do people even listen to you guys? SERIOUSLY HOW […]

  31. 23. Boston? YES!!!

    BOSTON WAS FOUND! Join George, Bradley, Kit, and ... John Palencar, as we talk about our initial reactions to the recent Expedition Unknown episode. This was a livestream... it is raw and unedited. https://www.patreon.com/secrettreasure https://12treasures.com...

  32. 21. Meetups and Tv Shows

    OH MY GOD! Has this been a month for the Secret or what!?! A new EU episode came out, the New York image was released, the podcast had a meetup in San Francisco, and a CASQUE MAY HAVE BEEN FOUND IN BOSTON!?!?! Oh, since I said that you don't care as much about the first three anymore do you? Well...

  33. 22. Boston? Maybe….

    There is a very real chance the Boston Treasure was found. Stay skeptical though. George, Bradley, Sarah, and Bingo talk to HC and Michael about their solutions and try ot piece together what happened today in Boston. This was a livestream... it is raw and unedited....

  34. 20. The San Francisco Treat

    Let's go to San Francisco baby! Join George Ward Brett Zingler and Bradley Hodges as we discuss the upcoming meetup, as well as some other projects the team has been working on. https://12treasures.com https://12treasures.com/q4t/‪ https://patreon.com/secrettreasure...

  35. 19. Digging Holes

    We are all digging holes... Do your holes matter? ‪(386) 227-7821‬ https://12treasures.com Thank you to the Now Now's for allowing us to use their song. https://soundcloud.com/thenownows https://patreon.com/secrettreasure http://instagram.com/thesecretpodcast...

  36. 18. Milwaukee Revisted – Shhh… The Secret Podcast

    Give us any chance - we'll take it, Read us any rule - we'll break it, We're gonna make our dreams come true... Depressed on a park bench! Join John and George as they drown their sorrows, slide down hillsides, and wonder what locals are talking about when they say "We're going to the beach" in...

  37. 17. Pimping the Palencars

    The podcast team took a trip to meet JJP! There are so many things we couldn't tell you in this episode, but we tried to drop as many hints as we could. Pay attention and figure out what they are. From art critiques to digging holes, from EU to people who think we are idiots. The podcast has…

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  38. 16. The San Francisco Fake – Shhh… The Secret Podcast

    Holy Crap guys! Someone dug up a box in San Francisco, but there seems to be a bit of a problem. Join us as we talk about the misadventures of our new French friend, Dr. Gerald Gay why he may have decided to pull le wool over all of our eyes, and how dedicated this community is to keeping the…

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  39. 15. The 13th Tribute – Shhh… The Secret Podcast

    JM has ran away, changed his name and hid all his precious jewels somewhere in North America. Join George, Brett, and Evan on this special episode of The Secret Podcast, where we all touch on JM's thing.

  40. 13. Montreal – Shhh… The Secret Podcast

    Ah, Montreal... The 'gateway to the north', The 'mount city'. Home of the Cardinals, the Blues.... Wait, why are we in Montreal again? We should be in St. Louis right? I mean, it has an Arch... Join us as we talk with John (Fenix) about 'The city of a hundred steeples' and why the casque can't...

  41. 12. Boston – Shhh – The Secret Podcast

    This month an da secret puodcast we discass da city of Baston, chaaasgate, the fens, the japanese traaanslations, and why Jahn can't live in one city for more dan a few days at a time. Baston is a wanderfal city, we hope ya get a chance to waalk around its beutifal paarks. But dont drive ya caar....

  42. 11. Charleston – Shhh… The Secret Podcast

    Author Pat Conroy once said about Charleston, "Beautiful cities have a treacherous nature." Join JM and George and the ghost of TJ, for a journey through history and a mind twister of a puzzle in Charleston SC. Also joining them for the whole show, and interview after, Artist Kit Palencar....

  43. Japanese Translation

    The Japanese copy of the Secret translated.

  44. 10. Roanoke – Shhh… The Secret Podcast

    For the first time ever Rob Wrobel and Brian Zinn come together to talk about how it feels to bring a casque out of the ground. Then stick around to hear us all discuss Brian's decade long journey into the Elizabethan Gardens. No alligators were harmed in the making of this episode.

About this show

Back in 1982 a man named Byron Priess decided it would be a good idea to publish a treasure hunt. He spent a year or so traveling around the country, burying small ceramic boxes two feet underground. He wrote a few poems, and had a friend of his paint some images. The goal was to get the reader to match a poem with a verse, produce a treasure map of sorts, then go dig up the treasures.He thought it would be easy.40 years later we are finding out he was wrong.So far two treasures have been found. One in Chicago, and one in Cleveland… so at least we know they are real. That’s about all we know for sure.This project started with Byron recruiting a bunch of his friends. Sean and Ted to write some descriptions of strange creatures that Byron’s friend JoEllen sculpted out of clay and cloth, which were photographed by his childhood friend Ben. Then Byron’s friends John Palencar, John Pierard, and Overton Loyd made a bunch of images with the sole purpose of confusing all of us.The proj

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Frequently asked questions

How many episodes does The Secret Podcast have?

The Secret Podcast has 60 episodes on PodParley. The most recent episode was published on July 21, 2026.

What is The Secret Podcast about?

Back in 1982 a man named Byron Priess decided it would be a good idea to publish a treasure hunt. He spent a year or so traveling around the country, burying small ceramic boxes two feet underground. He wrote a few poems, and had a friend of his paint some images. The goal was to get the reader to...

How often does The Secret Podcast release new episodes?

The Secret Podcast publishes about every 53 days, based on its 60 episodes since December 2017.

Who hosts The Secret Podcast?

The Secret Podcast is created and hosted by 12Treasures.com.
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