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The Side Woo
by Thibault
The Side Woo is a podcast hosted by artist and writer Thibault that takes place at the intersection of mental health, spirituality, LGBTQ+ issues, and art-making. Every week, we interview artists, writers, creatives, and metaphysical practitioners to learn about strategies for navigating the uncertainty of a life in the arts. Episodes come out on Thursdays. Watch the video recordings on Spotify and our YouTube channel. Welcome to The Side Woo.
Episodes
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Announcement: The Side Woo now on YouTube only
Hello! After some consideration we are moving all The Side Woo content over to our YouTube channel. Please join Thibault there for all kinds of antics including interviews, tarot readings, essays, and other unique content that people put on The YouTubes. The Side Woo on YouTube:...
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Trans Guy Tarot - Full Moon in Taurus 2025
This week Thibault does a reading for the full moon in Taurus, which is super charged to support your efforts around grounding and connecting with community. Deck: The Official Tarot of The Grateful Dead ALSO - Lisa Crallé s gallery Personal Space is in Vallejo NOT Alameda as is referenced in the...
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Trans Guy Tarot: October 28 - November 3, 2025
This episode, Thibault a does reading for the week of October 28 - November 3, 2025. Deck: The Official Grateful Dead Tarot Deck. Volunteer at Tech For Campaigns at techforcampaigns.org Follow Thibault on Medium at https://medium.com/@thibault2studio Check out Thibault's art at...
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Trans Guy Tarot - New Moon in Libra
This episode, Thibault does a quick reading for the new moon in Libra happening on October 21st. The effects of the new moon lasts about a month, so this reading has more bang for your buck. Deck: The Official Grateful Dead Tarot Follow on Medium at https://medium.com/@thibault2studio Check out...
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New: Weekly Trans Guy Tarot Reading
This week, in lieu of a new episode - and there will be a couple more this season, Thibault is bringing back a new, old segment: weekly tarot readings. This week is a short and dudelicious, just like our host. Deck: The Official Grateful Dead Deck
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Live on Radio Tomada: A Tarot Reading from Doña Tules with Matthew Chase-Daniels
This week's episode was recorded and broadcasted live from the Axel Contemporary Truck onto Radio Tomada in Santa Fe. Thibault talks with Mathew and gives a tarot reading through the lens of Doña Tules (Maria Gertrudis Barceló), a figure from New Mexican history, and a featured personality in the...
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Live on Radio Tomada in Santa Fe: Zina Al Shukri, Matthew Chase-Daniel and Jerry Wellman
This week's episode was recorded and broadcasted live from the Axel Contemporary Truck onto Radio Tomada in Santa Fe. Thibault talks with Mathew and Jerry about woo, and talks with Zina about the sound bath she did at Electra Gallery, living in Arkansas, and the art world. About Radio Tomada…
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Bonus Episode: Hot Takes with Dana Hemenway
In this special bonus episode, artist Dana Hemenway shares hot takes on art, travel, shpants and more. About Dana Hemenway Dana Hemenway is an artist based in San Francisco. Her work is rooted in the excavation and elevation of utilitarian objects to make visible what has become habituated in our...
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Dana Hemenway on Public Art, Ceramics and Motherhood
This week Thibault talks with Dana Hemenway at The Space Program studio where Dana is doing a residency. They talk about Dana's background in public art, how motherhood has changed her practice, and what it was like working together as co-director at Royal Nonesuch Gallery in the 2010s. Check out...
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Taking Stock of San Francisco's Art Scene with Aaron Harbour & Jackie Im of Et Al Gallery
This week Thibault talks with gallerists and power couple, Jackie Im and Aaron Harbour of Et Al Gallery and all the other projects they tackle separately and together. They talk about San Francisco's evolution as a center for art, best taqueria in town, and other important, timely topics.…
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Tapping Into The Subconscious Through Mandalas With Artist & Healer Renate Hume
This week, Thibault talks with Renate Hume, a healer and artist who offers mandala readings to help guide people through their many chapters in life. They discuss Hume's many self-reinventions throughout her life, astrology, walking on hot coals, and ultimately how she learned to read mandalas....
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Art & Karaoke with Raina Lee
We are back with Season 5 of The Side Woo podcast and our first guest is LA-based artist Raina Lee. Thibault and Raina talk about life in and out of LA after the fires in January, karaoke as an art form, ceramics and feng shui. About Raina Lee Raina Lee is a second-generation Taiwanese-American...
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Mia Weiner on Textiles, Sexuality and Working With a Guru
About Mia Weiner Responding to the historical textile, Mia Weiner creates intimate declarations that explore identity, gender, and the psychology of human relationships. She hand-weaves each tapestry in her Los Angeles studio. Mia received her MFA from the School of the Art Institute of Chicago...
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Visions with Artist Samantha Rosenwald
This week Thibault sits down for a conversation with LA-based artist Samantha Rosenwald. They talk about a life-changing moment when Sam saw the face of someone (maybe g*d?) in a vision as a child, and life as a hard-working artist. About Samantha Rosenwald Rosenwald is based in LA and works...
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Dealing With Change: A Conversation With Kayla Tange And Malado Francine
In October 2024, Thibault sat down with Malado Francine and Kayla Tange to talk with them about moments when life forced change on them. They also talk about past lives, woo woo stories and being careful what you wish for. About Malado Francine Malado Francine (b. Malado Francine Baldwin-Tejeda)…
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Rio Asch Phoenix on Photography and Environmental Activism
This week Thibault sits down with artist and activist Rio Asch Phoenix to talk about his solo show with Monte Vista Projects, While Light Still Falls Here, documenting the hotly contested Canyon Hills property near the Verdugo Mountains in Los Angeles. They talk about Rio's nerd-level love of...
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Talking About the Power of Tits with Sarah Thornton, Author of Tits Up
This week Thibault talks with best-selling author Sarah Thornton about her latest book "Tits Up: Tits Up: What Sex Workers, Milk Bankers, Plastic Surgeons, Bra Designers, and Witches Tell Us about Breasts", which was listed as one of the New Yorker Best Books of 2024. After her own botched breast...
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Allison Schulnik's Dumb Phone Life, and Art - The Side Woo Live
This episode is a recording of a live conversation between Thibault and Allison Schulnik, reknowned painter, ceramicist, animator, and filmmaker based out in the desert in Sky Valley, CA. They talk about trying to live a dumb phone life, being witchy, and delve into Schulnik's artistic practice....
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The Last Episode of 2024
This is a little check-in to say happy new year, and a teaser to get you excited for all the good stuff we have coming your way in 2025, which is just days away - on Thursday of this week, no less. Also a huge thank you to all of our fans! We are listed as a Top 10, and Top 5 favorite podcast for...
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Queer Indigenous Storytelling with Filmmaker Roberto Fatal
This week on The Side Woo, Sarah talks with grad school buddy Roberto Fatal about their beautiful short films, student loan debt, using grant money for good and the hilarity of sci-fi's white apocalypses. About Roberto Fatal Roberto Fatal [they/them/ellos] is a Meztize Chicana filmmaker and...
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Running a Clay Studio as an Artist with Holly Coley
This week Sarah sits down with Bay Area artist, owner of Pinckney Clay and karaoke aficionado, Holly Coley. About Holly Coley Holly Coley lives and works in San Francisco, CA. Born in LA county and raised in the desert of Southern California. Coley comes from a family of artists and craftspeople....
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Artist Julia Haft-Candell And The Power Of The Infinite + A Tarot Reading
About Julia Haft-Candell Julia Haft-Candell (b. 1982, Oakland, California) received a BA from the University of California, Davis, before graduating from the MFA program at California State University, Long Beach, in 2010. She was a summer resident in 2016 at the Skowhegan School of Painting &...
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Live: Iva Gueorguieva on her show Seascapes, Snowscapes, Kukeri at Night Gallery
Sarah interviews Iva about her solo exhibition Seascapes, Snowscapes, Kukeri for the closing reception at Night Gallery in Los Angeles. Recorded on August 24, 2024. About Iva Gueorguieva Born in 1974 in Sofia, Bulgaria, Iva Gueorguieva is an artist living and working in Los Angeles California....
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British Pop Star NEO 10Y On Overcoming Childhood Bullying, Embracing Queerness & A Holographic Universe
This week's guest, Nik Thakkar, aka NEO 10Y, was born same date that Freddie Mercury died - coincidence or reincarnation? You decide in this week's episode. Sarah and NEO 10Y chat about what it's like living his pop star fantasy, his vegan activism, taking 8 grams of mushrooms for a British…
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Interview with Scott Ogden, Director of Shrine Gallery
As a follow up to the book release and live talk with Hayley Barker on July 28th at Artbook @ Hauser & Wirth DTLA, Sarah sits down to talk with Scott Ogden about his gallery, Shrine Gallery, why he loves self-educated artists and even a couple of ghost stories.
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Live: Artist Hayley Barker on Painting, Being a Witch and Her New Catalog "ALTAR"
Sarah sits down for a live chat with Hayley Barker at Artbook @ Hauser & Wirth DTLA in honor of her new catalog release, co-produced with Shrine Gallery, About Hayley Barker Hayley Barker (b.1973) is a Los Angeles based painter whose bold and beautiful paintings combine apparently prosaic…
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Artist Amir Fallah Shares His Origin Story
Sarah talks this week with LA-based artist Amir Fallah about his family of origin, immigrating to the US when he was 7, speaking at the recent UCLA School of Arts and Architecture commencement, and all the hard work that it took to get where he is now. About Amir Amir H. Fallah received his BFA…
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Navigating Artist Collectives & Ocean Waves with Artist Natalja Kent
This week we share a convesration between Sarah and friend of the pod, artist Natalja Kent. They cover so much ground from childhood stuff to Natalja's storied career in artist collectives, Sasha the Flute, and queer surfing. About Natalja Kent Natalja Kent is a Czech-American artist based in Los...
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Live: Imagining a Digital-Free Future of Fluid Sexuality with Painter Vivien Ebright Chung
This week's epsiode is a live podcast taping of a talk with artist Vivien Ebright Chung about her solo exhibition "Verdant Arcadia" at The Trophy Room LA in Los Angeles. Sarah asks Vivien about her sexually fluid vision for the future, her past life in Paris, and what inspires her color palette....
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Artist Alexander Brewington on the First Solo Show After Grad School
Sarah talks with NY based artist and recent MFA grad Alexander Brewington about his solo show "What Burns Beneath", leaving grad school and the significance of fire in his paintings. The conversation was recorded in April 2024. About Alexander Brewington Alexander Brewington is a Brooklyn based...
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Live: Artist talk with Sarah and Elisabeth Workman at Dreamsong Gallery, May 2024
This week we share a live recorded conversation Sarah hosted as part of her solo exhibition, Things Worth Saving, at Dreamsong Gallery in Minneapolis. Elisabeth Workman flips the script and asks Sarah questions this time. Let's get nerdy about painting! About Elisabeth Workman Elisabeth Workman…
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Announcements! Plus a live show on Gutsy Radio
This week, Sarah takes a break from the reguarly scheduled program to announce a new live radio show on Friday April 26, from 8-10pm Pacific Time. The show will be once aired monthly on their platform, and then recorded and shared somewhere as yet to be determined. To listen you can go to...
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Painting the Psyche with Artist Xiao Wang
Xiao Wang (b. 1990), is a Chinese born, New York based figurative painter primarily working with oil paint. Wang’s work combines dramatic and moody color palettes with a realism approach. He creates constructed scenes from photographs of still lifes, foliage, interior spaces, landscapes, himself,...
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Oh! the Horror with Basement VHS hosts Luca Antonucci and Mitsu Okubo
This week Sarah chats with Basement VHS podcast and filmscreening hosts, Luca Antonucci and Mitsu Okubo. Sarah asks them about their love of horror and why it might be the best thing to get over the nighttime scaries. About Basement VHS The premier VHS seed bank of San Francisco! Highlights from...
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Good Endings, Breast Cancer and Loving Your Worst Characters with Author & Educator Natalie Serber
This week Sarah talks with author and educator Natalie Serber, a former mentor of hers that she met randomly - so random - during the pandemic. They talk about writing good endings, loving your worst characters, and how Natalie thrived after her breast cancer diagnosis. About Natalie Serber:...
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Art & Community with Filmmaker and Gallery Director Griff Williams of Gallery 16
Sarah sat down for a chat at the Space Program Recording Studios in November 2023 to ask Griff Williams, Founder of Gallery 16 about his 30+ years running a San Francisco-gallery. We also talk about his documentary "Tell them we were here" about 8 artists making art outside the gallery system and...
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Live Panel Talk on Resilience & Joy in Art with Tara Daly, Mary Finlayson and Rachel Kaye
As part of the Pure Beauty exhibition at Eleanor Harwood, Sarah hosted a live panel discussion on Resilience and Joy with artists Tara Daly, Mary Finlayson, and Rachel Kaye. Everyone shares the trials and triumphs they have faced over the course of their careers and fields audience questions. The...
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Money Loves You with Author & Life Coach Sarah McCrum
This week host Sarah talks with author, energy worker and life coach Sarah McCrum who channeled / wrote the book Love Money, Money Loves You. Sarah M shares what money wants you to know about getting rich, enjoying life more and finding balance between woo woo stuff and the reality of the world....
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Digital Detoxing with Joe Hollier, the Co-Creator of The Light Phone
In honor of the end of Flip Phone February, this week Sarah talks with the co-creator of the Light Phone, a "dumbphone" made to help people spend less time using their phones. Most recently Light Phone has done a collaboration with Kendrick Lamar for their instantly sold-out Light Phone II this...
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Stories That Free Us with Artist, Filmmaker & Queer Activist Jason Hanasik
This week Sarah is in San Francisco and gets the chance to talk with artist Jason Hanasik about his career as a photographer and filmmaker. Jason talks about creating GAP’s contribution to the It Gets Better Campaign, losing a sister to mental health challenges and what personal liberation can…
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Rainbow Signs with Hosts of the Lez Be Moms Podcast Lindsay Tully and Lana Williams
About Lindsay and Lana Lindsay and Lana are married artists, living, working and raising a baby together in Oakland, CA. They are two-thirds of the art collaborative, Bonanza, with Conrad Guevara, recently exhibiting work at the Museum of Craft and Design, The Contemporary Jewish Museum, and...
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Quilting for Metal Dudes with Bay Area Artist Ben Venom
This week I talk with Ben Venom, textile artist and studio manager at The Space Program. We recorded our conversation in July 2023 at The Space Program's recording studio. About Ben Venom Ben Venom graduated from the San Francisco Art Institute in 2007 with a Master of Fine Arts degree. His work...
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The Aesthetics of Grief with Artist Amber Jean Young
This week Sarah talks with Bay Area artist Amber Jean Young about her work, grief from losing her mother, and then why she chose to have a double mastectomy and an oophorectomy after the birth of her second child. About Amber Jean Young Amber Jean Young (b. 1984) is an interdisciplinary artist...
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Tarot & Taschen's Library of Esoterica with Jess Hundley
This week Sarah talks with editor, creative director and co-writer of Taschen's Library of Esoterica books, Jess Hundley. Jess shares her plan for creating the as of today four encyclopedic books, Tarot, Astrology, Witchcraft and Plant Magick, and the important part the Philosophical Research...
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Manifesting with the Moon with Moonology Creator Yasmin Boland
Ever since she picked up Moonology in 2019, Sarah has been wanting to talk with Yasmin Boland, creator of Moonology the book and oracle decks inspired by the phases of the moon. Finally, this week, Sarah shares her conversation with Yasmin in early November 2023. During their conversation, Yasmin...
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What Comes After Addiction Recovery with Amir Hamaoui, Creator of the Welldim Journey Deck
This week Sarah talks with Amir Hamaoui, friend and husband of former guest Rachel Dawson. He shares his journey through recovery and how he answered the inevitable question after any major life change, "What now?" As part of his recovery process, he created a new wellness-focused oracle deck...
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The Side Woo Live at The ICA San Francisco - Rupy C. Tut, Heesoo Kwon and Cate White
On November 5, 2023 Sarah hosted three guest artists at the Institute of Contemporary Art - San Francisco for a live panel discussion on creativity and what blocks it. During their conversations they discuss where ideas come from, why do we as artists get creatively blocked and what can we do…
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Building Queer Archives with Artist Jamil Hellu
This week we share a conversation with Sarah and Bay Area artist Jamil Hellu. They talked during a shared artist residency at the Space Program in August 2023. About Jamil Hellu Jamil Hellu is a visual artist whose work focuses on the fluidity of identity, cultural heritage, and queer...
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Artist Tarot Reading: Harnessing Nervous Energy with Katherine Vetne
This week's reading is for artist Katherine Vetne whose solo exhibition, Palate Cleanser, is opening at Catherine Clark on November 11, 2023 in San Francisco, CA. Show Notes Katherine Vetne http://katherinevetne.com/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/kavetne/?hl=en Palate Cleanser at Catherine...
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Goodbye To All That (Art World Edition) with Artist Delia Brown
This week Sarah talks Delia Brown, an artist and psychedelic-therapist-in-training living in the Bay Area. Delia shares her ups and downs of having a multi-decade career in the art world and why she is leaving it all behind. She shares her experience getting diagnosed with cancer, her subsequent...
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
The Side Woo is a podcast hosted by artist and writer Thibault that takes place at the intersection of mental health, spirituality, LGBTQ+ issues, and art-making. Every week, we interview artists, writers, creatives, and metaphysical practitioners to learn about strategies for navigating the uncertainty of a life in the arts. Episodes come out on Thursdays. Watch the video recordings on Spotify and our YouTube channel. Welcome to The Side Woo.
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