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The Third Story
by WBGO Studios
There are stories we tell ourselves. There are stories we tell our friends. There are the stories we tell strangers. There are stories we never tell.Somewhere, in the middle of all of this, is the Third Story. The intersection between the art and the craft, the living and the living, the personal and the professional…The place where all of these meet is the Third Story.The Third Story podcast features long-form interviews with musicians and members of the creative class, hosted by Leo Sidran. Their stories of discovery, loss, ambition, identity, improvisation, risk, and reward are deeply moving and compelling for all of us as we embark on our own creative journeys.Check out the rest of our line up at WBGO Studios.
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Sofía Rei's Folk and Futurism
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Ashley Kahn on the Miracles and Wonder of Paul Simon’s Graceland
Forty years ago this month, Paul Simon released Graceland, an album that became one of the defining records of his career, and one of the most celebrated and debated albums of its era. Music historian Ashley Kahn tells the whole complicated story in his new book, Days of Miracle and Wonder: Paul Simon and the Trials and Triumphs of Graceland.
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Ben Sidran at 83: “Entropy Is Inevitable, But the Antidote Is Available”
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Ben Wikler: "Democracy is exhausting until you discover solidarity"
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Heather Aimee O'Neill: The Observer
Before The Irish Goodbye became one of the most acclaimed debut novels of 2025, Heather Aimee O'Neill spent years quietly writing it while building a career helping other writers tell their stories. Here she discusses the vulnerability of ambition, the challenge of living an authentic life, and the strange transition from observer to protagonist.
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Lakecia Benjamin wanted “to make a record that reflects the reality of right now.”
Saxophonist and bandleader Lakecia Benjamin has become one of the most dynamic voices in jazz. In this wide ranging conversation with Leo Sidran she recalls some of her early professional experiences, and how the mentors, heroes, setbacks and aspirations that shaped her journey continue to inform her new album, We Dream.
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Ben Sidran's 1996 interview with Miles Davis
To mark what would have been Miles Davis's 100th birthday, The Third Story with Leo Sidran revisits a rare 1986 conversation between Miles and Ben Sidran, recorded on the terrace of Miles’s Malibu home.
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Julieta Venegas has a good memory
After nearly three decades of resisting fixed categories, Julieta is returning to the place where that sensibility began. This year she releases Norteña, an album that turns back toward the border city where all of that started. She describes it as a tribute to the feeling of growing up on the border.
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Dida Pelled Wishes You Would...
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
There are stories we tell ourselves. There are stories we tell our friends. There are the stories we tell strangers. There are stories we never tell.Somewhere, in the middle of all of this, is the Third Story. The intersection between the art and the craft, the living and the living, the personal and the professional…The place where all of these meet is the Third Story.The Third Story podcast features long-form interviews with musicians and members of the creative class, hosted by Leo Sidran. Their stories of discovery, loss, ambition, identity, improvisation, risk, and reward are deeply moving and compelling for all of us as we embark on our own creative journeys.Check out the rest of our line up at WBGO Studios.
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