The Third Way. Hosted by Justin Foster
by Justin Foster
The Third Way is a podcast hosted by Justin Foster, co-founder of Massive, philosopher, and creative. Justin challenges dualistic thinking across all areas of life and business. Features guest episodes with other Third Way thinkers as well as his Manologues; solo streams-of-consciousness episodes where Justin shares recent epiphanies, challenges, or ideas he's been wrestling with. fosterthinking.substack.com
Episodes
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A Conversation with Marc Shaffer
In his seminal book, “The Go Giver”, Bob Berg coins the term “The Connector”; a role he esteems as the highest level of influence in business. A Connector creates value by bringing people together, sharing knowledge, and creating relationships that expand opportunity for everyone involved - all...
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A Conversation with Joseph Fasano
Joseph Fasano is a poet, novelist, and educator who spent two decades teaching literature before leaving academia to build his own independent academy focused on cultivating full human expression through language. In a conversation that felt like channeling the Beatnik days of City Lights…
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A Conversation with Wendy Colonna
This episode of The Third Way Podcast was a gift. I got to sit down in person with my dear friend Wendy Colonna, a much loved Austin-based singer-songwriter, creative coach, and one of those rare artists who is both a master of her craft and endlessly collaborative. Wendy is woven into some of my...
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A Conversation with Sarah King
In this special in-person episode, I sit down with my dear friend Sarah King inside Aurora House, the creative sanctuary she founded in Austin, Texas. The last time I did an in-person interview, I was in Idaho talking horse training with my little brother. This one’s a bit different. Sarah’s…
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A Conversation with Trevor Perry
Trevor Perry and I have something rare in common: we were both raised in one of the most controlling Christian sects you’ve never heard of, the Two by Twos. Trevor got kicked out at 19 for keeping the wrong company. I walked out on my own terms years later. Either way, we both know what it’s like...
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A Conversation with Javiera Corea
For a lot of business owners, marketing feels like a necessary evil—something you know you need but would rather not spend your time on. That’s why delegation isn’t just practical; it’s freedom. Handing off the parts you don’t love (and probably shouldn’t be doing anyway) gives you the space to...
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A Conversation with Dan Dowman
Leadership isn’t about control—it’s a creative act. Yet too often, leaders default to org charts, titles, and vanity metrics instead of the courage and creativity needed to build real trust. The bottom line gets in the way of belonging, and businesses exploit people rather than empower them. In...
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Manologue #16: The Cost of Silence
In this Manologue, I dig into a truth too many people would rather ignore: silence is the fuel that keeps tyranny burning. Authoritarianism isn’t just about silencing dissenters—it thrives on the privileged keeping their mouths shut. From my own experience in a high-control religious environment…
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Manologue #15: Grief of a Broken Code
This episode is about a different kind of grief—the kind that lingers when something you believe in gets betrayed. I was raised on the Western Code: protect women, judge a person by their work, and give no mercy to horse thieves. It wasn’t an idea. It was a lineage that started in the grit and…
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A Conversation with Joe Bova
In this episode of The Third Way Podcast, I sit down with my friend and client, Joe Bova, for a deep and insightful conversation about his unconventional journey—from Hollywood to owning a bakery to becoming a therapist and coach. Joe shares his “Finding the Gold” story, inspired by a…
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A Special Conversation with Mohan Rangarao
I met Mohan in the most serendipitous way: through my dear friend, Stacy Ennis, (who I also met in a serendipitous way many years ago in Boise, ID). But here is the cosmic part… Stacy lives in Portugal. Mohan lives in Mysore, India. I live in Austin. The odds of Mohan finding Stacy are...
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Special Third Way Episode
With the election tomorrow, we’re standing on the edge of a potential milestone. But regardless of the outcome, women are already leading us forward in all areas of life. That’s why I sat down with Shuronda Robinson, a client of The Fractional XO and a dear friend, to have a raw, honest...
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3D Conversation: Kelly Campbell
In this episode, I'm shaking things up and stepping away from the 3D traditional interview model to see if a conversation can carry itself without a script. I'm bringing back Kelly Campbell—my "spiritual doppelganger," a dear friend who shares my Scorpio intensity and Enneagram 8 energy. We're...
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Manologue #14: Critical Intelligence & the 2024 Election
Some supporting information for the terminology I use in this Manologue. Critical Intelligence:The practical to combine critical thinking, self-awareness, cognitive skills, and spiritual values to make informed and balanced decisions. It involves analyzing information carefully, recognizing...
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3D Conversation with Ben Guttmann
In this episode, I do something I’ve never done on a podcast episode: talked directly about branding and marketing! Thanks to an introduction from our mutual friend, Kelly Campbell, I was able to have a 3D conversation with brand communication expert, Ben Guttmann. We discuss his new book, our...
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3D Conversation with Todd Lieman
My buddy, Todd Lieman, was on my podcast way back in January of 2022. Since then, Todd has brought an incredible book into the world, “Dinner at God’s House”. It is one of the best spiritual fables I’ve ever read. As I mention in the episode, writing fables well is difficult, but spiritual fables...
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Manologue #13
In this Manologue episode, I share the difference between cognitive biases and logical fallacies and how logical fallacies are direct threat to American ideals and truth itself. As mentioned, I am including a partial list of both … Here are some of the top cognitive biases: * Confirmation Bias…
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3D Conversation with Bryce Hoffman
In this episode, I had the privilege of an in-person conversation with one of my best friends, Bryce Hoffman. As it is with all of our conversations, we discussed a wide range of things, including the importance of critical thinking in leadership, emphasizing its role in navigating today's…
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Manologue #12
In this Manologue, I share the social significance of the show “Suits” - especially in light of Harrison Butker’s comments and a pervasive anti-femininity bent in much of our culture. This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes,...
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3D Conversation with Byron Reese
Byron Reese is a futurist who thinks a lot about the past. I first learned about Byron when I read his book, “Stories, Dice, and Rocks that Think” , a book that celebrates the advancement of humanity rather than decries is. I describe Byron as “indescribably brilliant”. I also like how he is...
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Manologue #11
In this Manologue episode, I share how the pressures of our current life can tempt us to return to an old part of us. This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit fosterthinking.substack.com/subscribe
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3D Conversation with Trae Tucker
As if often the case, I met Trae Tucker in a serendipitous way. I was immediately struck by his story, his sincerity, and his drive. Like me, Trae grew up rural. And like me, he is proud of his rural roots but also has felt like an “other”. Listen to his story and our wide-ranging 3D conversation...
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3D Conversation with Rick Diamond
I’m forever grateful for Wendy Colonna introducing me to Rick Diamond. As two deconstructed SWAMs (straight, white, American, males), we hit it off immediately and have watched our initial interaction blossom into a rich friendship. In this 3D Conversation, we talk through what it takes to...
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Manologue #10
In this Manologue episode, I share how increased consciousness and awareness has also included regrets about past behaviors and decisions. This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit fosterthinking.substack.com/subscribe
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3D Conversation with Sara Alvarado
Sara Alvarado an entrepreneur, business activist, and author. She is a fascinating person who is truly living her mission. She tells more of her story in the episode, but at the essence of it is her efforts to create more racial justice in the real estate and mortgage industry. Key links: Sara’s...
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Manologue #9
In this week’s Manologue, I share my opinions on these seven topics: * Can we please stop asking each other “How are you?” * I’m at a stage of life where I can’t tell if I’m aging or evolving. * Alexei Navalny and Volodymyr Zelenskyy are lions * Country music’s moment * I love the Travis and…
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3D Conversation with Bobby Hulme-Lippert
Bobby is a dear friend and client (who also officiated our wedding!). He recently responded to his calling to leave the ministry and become a leadership coach. With his gentle strength, well-honed intuition, and ability to ask great questions, Bobby is the perfect coach for today’s men. In this…
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Manologue #8
In this Manologue episode, I share my perspectives on two different but over-lapping meditation paths - one for calmness and one for insight. This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit fosterthinking.substack.com/subscribe
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3D Conversation with Mike Green
It was great to have one of my best friends in the world back on my podcast! In this 3D conversation, Mike Green and I talk about the concept of personal expansion. Be sure to check out Mike’s Alaskan Personal Expansion experience! This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with…
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Manologue #7
I don’t do a lot of “how to” stuff on the Third Way, but this Manologue shares some mindfulness methods that I’ve used to better understand my feelings and choose my behaviors. This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit...
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3D Conversation with Rusty Tinder
Creativity is an essential element of living a whole life. As ancient as time itself, creativity remains mostly misunderstood. One of the most creative people I know is singer-songwriter, explorer, and mystic Rusty Tinder. Rusty is one of my closest friends; one of several two-man support groups...
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Manologue #6
In this final podcast episode of 2023, I share some recent epiphanies about doing “The Work”. This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit fosterthinking.substack.com/subscribe
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3D Conversation: Social Justice
In this 3D Conversation on the Third Way podcast, I am re-joined by a prior guest - my partner in all ways, Dr. Virginia Lacayo. Our topic is Social Justice. As most of you know, Virginia is a life-long human rights activist and feminist who grew up in a war in Nicaragua and is now a US resident,...
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Manologue #5
In this Manologue, I shared some epiphanies about how the highest priority for the day is to return to center (as often as it takes), what happens when we don’t, and the forces that want to keep us off-center. Here is the 8Cs of the Higher Self art piece created by my great friend, Allison Crow....
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3D Conversation: Masculinity
David Casler is a former combat Marine and car bomb survivor and current entrepreneur, breathwork coach and mentor. David is also a prior guest on my podcast. This 3D Conversation is indicative of the many private conversations David and I have. In this particular conversation, we go 3D on...
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Manologue #4
Happy Thanksgiving, y’all! In this Manologue, I reflect on being grateful for what’s possible not just for who and what we have. This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit fosterthinking.substack.com/subscribe
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3D Conversation: Enlightening Leaders
This is an extra special episode for me. Alan and I have been close friends for over a decade. He’s been a witness to my transformation and a steady source of comfort and friendship in the darkest of times. Shakti is newer but also instant friend - someone I consider part of my “Mother Circle” of...
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Monologue #3
What learning to dance has taught me about failing. This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit fosterthinking.substack.com/subscribe
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3D Conversation: Consciousness + Entrepreneurism
Mario Lanzarotti is a High-Performance Coach, TEDx Speaker, and the Founder of the ZenPreneur movement. He specializes in guiding entrepreneurs to scale their business while maintaining inner peace. I met Mario through a mutual friend and had the privilege of being a guest on his Zenpreneur...
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Manologue #2
What happens when you know exactly who you are but you no longer know how other people see you? This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit fosterthinking.substack.com/subscribe
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3D Conversation: Behavioral Assessments
In the second installment of my new 3D Conversations format, I have a in-depth discussion with one of my best friends and one of the smartest people I know, Juan Kingsbury. Juan is a wizard at unpacking the DISC behavioral assessment for both individuals and teams. As a reminder, the 3D format is…
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A Theology of Wholeness
In this kick-off episode of my new series called Manologues, I get raw and real about my faith. I share my faith background and my current faith identity. Trigger alert: I speak about what I call the “theology of brokenness”, a power structure and business model that is a major source of abuse in...
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3D Conversation: Neurodivergence in the Workplace
This is the first of a new biweekly series I’m launching called 3D Conversations. This new format I designed to create an in-depth conversation around a specific topic with an expert guest. The flow matches the name! * Deep dive: I will ask the expert a series of questions that give them the...
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Episode 112: Yemi Penn
Introduced to me by Juan Kingsbury, Yemi Penn is one of the more fascinating people I’ve meet recently. Based in Australia, Yemi is a curious rebel, original thinker, and beautiful soul. I love the line from her bio: “An engineer by profession, an entrepreneur by passion, a transformation thought...
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Episode 111: Monica Hopkins
Monica Hopkins is the Executive Director of the ACLU’s DC chapter. Monica and I are both former Boiseans with a friendship that’s stretched back almost 20 years. While Monica and I often have different political views, we are both passionate about civil rights, justice, and protecting the rights…
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Episode 110: Jason Kyle
Jason Kyle is the founding creative of the app Mental, an action-oriented mental health tool for men. He is a former Peace Corps volunteer, stand-up comedian, and Hollywood writer. My friend and prior guest, Melia Dunn, introduced me to him. I absolutely love his energy, sense of humor, and...
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Episode 109: Sonal Soveni
Like many of my guests (and my friends), Sonal Soveni is multi-dimensional in both soul and skills. Sonal is an entrepreneur, artist, philanthropist, and filmmaker. She is also the Chief Muse and founder of The Table & Gallery, an innovative, multi-sensory atmosphere that promotes a collective...
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Episode 108: Ruoyun Xu Killian
I’ve long felt that branding and marketing are agnostic tools; that if they can be used to manipulate, persuade, convince, etc. then they can also be used to inspire, invite, and empower. But to brand and market for good requires a certain level of consciousness. With that backdrop, I was excited...
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Episode 107: Jake Merriman
I’m perpetually fascinated by the human mind and how it impacts performance, so I was excited to have Jake Merriman on. He is a business guide, a mentor to world servers, and the founder of the Mahalo Academy. Jake and I visited about a term he uses: “equilibrated mind”. We both answered the...
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Episode 106: Sujan Ali
If I were to choose the emotion that is most difficult for Americans (especially white people) to process it is grief. However, as Francis Weller so beautifully said, “Grief and love are sisters, woven together from the beginning. Their kinship reminds us that there is no love that does not…
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The Third Way is a podcast hosted by Justin Foster, co-founder of Massive, philosopher, and creative. Justin challenges dualistic thinking across all areas of life and business. Features guest episodes with other Third Way thinkers as well as his Manologues; solo streams-of-consciousness episodes where Justin shares recent epiphanies, challenges, or ideas he's been wrestling with.
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