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The Two EXES Podcast

Two husbands. One fabulous story.Join an ex-Jehovah’s Witness and his ex-Mormon husband as they spill the sacramental tea. From Kingdom Halls to Temple calls, they’ve been shunned, silenced, and spiritually ghosted—but now they’re loud, proud, and podcasting it all.The Two EXES of faith now share their journeys from closeted believers to out-and-married besties with mics.

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    I can't...I'm...

    The Two EXES are back! We talk about all the times we said “I can’t, I’m [insert religion]” When it was used as protection, when it was used to be smug, and when it just kept us from doing fun stuff we now regret. I hope you enjoy it...and we love you!

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    Gender, Schmender

    The Two EXES are back! We talk about how our religions explained gender, who broke the “boy/girl rules” growing up, and why everyone is basically fighting over a big toe.

  3. 32

    Modest is Hottest

    The Two EXES are back, and talking all things fashion! From church‑approved suits and BYU beard bans, to who in our families serves looks and who serves…as a cautionary tale!

  4. 31

    Satan and the Natural Man

    Join The Two EXES as we piece together the mystery of the missing Demons and Evil Spirits episode. Was it Lucifer or Satan himself, who worked to keep this episode from coming out? The facts speak for themselves!

  5. 30

    Armageddon or Bust!

    The Two EXES are back! Talking End Times, apocalypse checklists (food, guns, cash), and whether either of us actually believe the world’s still on a divine countdown.

  6. 29

    Workin' 9to5!

    The Two EXES are back! From sabbath guilt to salary goals, we unpack how church shaped our 9‑to‑5s, our views on money, and why we only thought BYU was elite.

  7. 28

    Jehovah's Most Secret Witness

    The Two EXES are back! With a little liquid courage, mixed with listener questions. We talk about which doctrines we ditched, which we kept, and do our families miss the old us?

  8. 27

    Disneyland, Vegas, and a Mild Existential Crisis

    Today the Two EXES record from vacation, talking family travel, workplace drama, Jack Mormons, Vegas gambling stories, and whether plastic surgery is somehow holier than coffee.

  9. 26

    Guilt Trips & Road Trips

    Today the Two EXES are talking about what our EX religions expected while we were on vacation, the best and worst family trips, and when we decided to bend the rules.

  10. 25

    Is Your Church a Dog or a Cat?

    Today the Two EXES are talking pets, religious animal symbolism, whether heaven includes dogs, and why some faiths feel more golden retriever than house cat.

  11. 24

    Family Values...Unless You're Shunned

    Today the Two EXES are talking about how shunning is framed as "love," why it's so damaging, and how to reclaim you life outside the system.

  12. 23

    Blessed Be The Highly Connected!

    Holy nepotism Batman! The Two EXES take on religious caste systems in this weeks episode. Listen in and hear our take on how favoritism and church hierarchy shape life inside our religions. Love YOU!

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    Aw, man!

    Yes, daddy, the Two EXES are finally taking our fathers' names in vain. We are taking the deep dive into the men who ruined - I mean, shaped our lives.

  14. 21

    Worthy to Receive

    The Two EXES are back with a candid conversation about charity, control, and compassion inside and outside our former faiths. Who really benefits when giving comes with strings attached...I'm asking for a friend.

  15. 20

    Are We Trad Wives?

    In our first episode of the new year, the Two EXES reflect on traditional values and the sweeping trad life trend. Who must know the way to make a proper home? Tradition!

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    Bonus Episode - Movie Review

    This holiday bonus episode has The Two EXES reviewing two religious movies from our past. We watched them so you don’t have to...you’re welcome!

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    Holiday Memories

    The Two EXES are hosting an end of year holiday party! Join us as we pop the cork on some Prosecco, and pop off on the Holidays!

  18. 17

    More like...Perse-cuties!

    Persecution comes in all forms, and The Two EXES tackle all of them. Today's discussion covers everything from "A" for Antifa, to "H" for Hosanna.

  19. 16

    I say a little Prayer for You!

    Today the Two EXES turn our eyes to the Heaven. On bended knee, we pray this episode nourishes and strengthens you!

  20. 15

    This is Us!

    The Two EXES take questions from a viewer to discuss a very personal topic...Our Relationship! This is our longest episode to date, and for that we apologize. We love you guys!

  21. 14

    Citrusy Libation

    Prost! Cheers! A toast, to this week’s episode! Have a drink with us as the Two EXES sip and spill all of our thoughts about alcohol!

  22. 13

    Thank you for your (postal) Service!

    Today the Two EXES answer some questions from one of our top listeners. We’ll talk family, faith, and followings, so stick around!

  23. 12

    I Can’t Go Out cough cough I’m Sick

    Not faking it today, the Two EXES are home sick! Join us as we spill the herbal tea and do a temperature check on all the times we were just too ill to go to church.

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    Where Do My Hands Go, When I'm Going Down?

    Dive into this week’s topic with the Two EXES, Baptism! It’s gonna be a splash, that’s right! It’s Baptism week, and we give you all the details you never knew you needed!

  25. 10

    Let’s Go Steady

    This episode may date us… because we haven’t been in the religious dating scene for so long! Today the two EXES relive our Mormon and Witness dating experiences… and all of the rules we ended up breaking.

  26. 9

    Good Heavens

    Where did I come from, why am I here, where am I going?

  27. 8

    What Would Jesus Do If He Heard This?

    In this Superstar episode, the Two EXES dish on our one time lord and savior, the man, the myth, the legend, Jesus Christ. And boy do we have different takes on guy. Was he real, was he white, and was he right? Join us to learn the Truth!

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    Woah, Take it Easy!

    The EXES embrace a more chill vibe today as we discuss Coasting! It’s a lot of work being a good Witness (you know Mormons have it easier), but there are always those who know how to let loose and ride the wave. So have a seat, slow down, and join is for a cocktail!

  29. 6

    F#%*ing Long Islands

    This was a heck of a fricking episode! The Two EXES spell out our thoughts on and use of bad language. We swear! Yeah, we swear a gosh darn fricking lot.

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    Is He... You Know?

    A friend of Dorothy, limp in the wrist, we've heard it all. Yes, it's true - the Two EXES talk all things coming out gay, and there will be tears! From social and religious stigma to the ways our parents and family reacted. Join us on our coming out Journeys!

  31. 4

    Sit Down and Pay Attention

    We are in session! The EXES convene to compare convention culture. How do Mormon Conferences and Witness Assemblies stack up? Take note!

  32. 3

    Mommy Issues

    Girl Power takes on new meaning as the Two EXES rant and rave about the women in our lives. Mostly Rave!

  33. 2

    The Holy Word(s)

    Hand on the Bible, this is the best and worst of the scriptures we grew up with. It’s the EXES’ final study of The Bible and The Book of Mormon! Join us as we revisit the written word and uncover its meaning across our lives. As far as it is translated correctly

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    Snap out of it!

    Movies, Music, and Media are on the menu today. Join us as we revisit the pop culture and media that impacted our coming out/religious growing up experiences. Have you seen these movies? We want to know!

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    We’re going to need therapy after this one!

    Today, the two EXES explore wellness and mental health within their prospective EX religious cultures. From medication to suicide, tune in to learn more about Mormon vs Witness takes on personal wellbeing.

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    Shame on who?

    Today's Confessions are heavy hitters as we dive into guilt and shame within our EX religions. "Forgive me Father, for I have sinned" is not going to cover it…It turns out, there's a big difference between feeling bad about what you did and feeling like you are. just...BAD. We’re putting our religious guilt-generating machines, Mormons vs. Jehovah's Witnesses, head-to-head and dissecting the doctrines that fostered unworthiness.

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    We've got mail!

    We have a listener! For our third episode, we're answering questions from a brilliant listener who graduated from a college that rhymes with "Blassar." Her questions kick off a deep and honest discussion about our former faiths. We explore how our feelings toward their teachings changed as we embraced our truth, and what elements that we found simply boring. Tune in to hear the questions and the answers!

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    Can you say...Gaylord?

    It's the triple gay episode! Today we discuss the Gay Voice, Gay Crushes, and Gay Bashing. Want to know who we secretly had a crush on when we were in the closet? Want to know what if feels like to hear a gay slur while you are praying nobody knows you are secretly gay? Listen in as we share some embarrassing and heart breaking stories from our life.

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    Where do we begin?

    In the debut episode of "The Two EXES Podcast," two husbands share their personal journeys growing up as a Jehovah's Witness and a Mormon. They explore the contrasting worlds they grew up in and the impact of being gay within them. Join the EXES as and they recount their experiences as a now ex-Jehovah's Witness and an ex-Mormon. Today's "Cocktails & Confessions" segment delves into the powerful concept of "Identity." Tune in, and we'd love to hear your thoughts!

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ABOUT THIS SHOW

Two husbands. One fabulous story.Join an ex-Jehovah’s Witness and his ex-Mormon husband as they spill the sacramental tea. From Kingdom Halls to Temple calls, they’ve been shunned, silenced, and spiritually ghosted—but now they’re loud, proud, and podcasting it all.The Two EXES of faith now share their journeys from closeted believers to out-and-married besties with mics.

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The Two Exes

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Two husbands. One fabulous story.Join an ex-Jehovah’s Witness and his ex-Mormon husband as they spill the sacramental tea. From Kingdom Halls to Temple calls, they’ve been shunned, silenced, and spiritually ghosted—but now they’re loud, proud, and podcasting it all.The Two EXES of faith now share...

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