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The Undefined Podcast

by Jared Palmer & Ken Wheeler

The only engineering podcast with a 2 drink minimum! Full stack developers Jared Palmer and Ken Wheeler have peer-to-peer conversations with world-class engineers about software development.

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Episodes

  1. Rethinking Design Systems with Mark Dalgleish

    Mark Dalgleish, the creator of CSS Modules, joins full stack developers Ken Wheeler and Jared Palmer on The Undefined to talk about to talk design systems vs. component libraries and the future of design tooling. Notes / Links CSS Modules Playroom Braid Design System Blueprint.js Material UI AWS...

  2. Atomic CSS with Adam Wathan, Creator of Tailwind CSS

    Adam Wathan, the creator of Tailwind CSS, joins full stack developers Ken Wheeler and Jared Palmer on The Undefined to talk about his path to becoming a developer, the big problems traditional CSS frameworks, what it's like to bootstrap a company, and the future of Tailwind. Featuring Adam Wathan…

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  3. Vue vs. Svelte with Evan You and Rich Harris

    Evan You, the creator of Vue.js, and Rich Harris, Graphics Editor at The New York Times and creator of Svelte and Rollup, join hosts Ken Wheeler and Jared Palmer on The Undefined to talk about the future of frontend development. Featuring Evan You - Twitter, Github, Website Rich Harris - Twitter,...

  4. Is the JAMStack really the future?

    Full stack developers Ken Wheeler and Jared Palmer talk about the future of the JAMStack, their experiences with serverless functions, debate Next.js vs. Gatsby, and so much more. Featuring Ken Wheeler – Twitter, GitHub, Website Jared Palmer – Twitter, GitHub, Website Picks Alen 75i Air Purifier...

  5. Full Stack Development with GitHub's Iheanyi Ekechukwu

    Iheanyi Ekechukwu is a Software Engineer at GitHub on the Actions team and co-host of the Two Black Nerds podcast. Prior to GitHub, Iheanyi was a Software Engineer at Digital Ocean. He joins hosts Ken Wheeler and Jared Palmer on The Undefined to talk about his path to becoming a full stack...

  6. Building Your Brand with egghead.io's Joel Hooks

    Joel Hooks is the Co-Founder of egghead.io, an online community of badass web developers. Joel joins hosts Ken Wheeler and Jared Palmer on the Undefined to talk about what it takes to build a personal brand and level-up as a developer. The gang chats about their learning techniques, motivation,...

  7. Rockstar Development with Dan Stein (a.k.a DJ Fresh)

    Dan Stein is a Principal Software / AI Developer for GLG Group. Prior to that, Dan was an award winning EDM DJ and producer known as "DJ Fresh" with over 2.5 million record sales, two number 1 singles, and two top 6 singles to his name. Dan joins hosts Ken Wheeler and Jared Palmer on the…

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  8. React Native Web with Expo's Evan Bacon

    Evan Bacon is a Software Engineer at Expo.io. Prior to that, Evan was a designer at Frog Design and Master Builder at LEGO. He joins hosts Jared Palmer and Ken Wheeler on the Undefined to talk about React Native, game development, and his unique origin story. The gang also discusses $900k…

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  9. What's Good in GraphQL with Apollo's Peggy Rayzis

    Peggy Rayzis is the Engineering Manager of Developer Experience Apollo. Prior to that, Peggy was a Software Engineer at Major League Soccer. She joins us on the Undefined to talk about GraphQL and what's new with Apollo. Featuring Peggy Rayzis - Twitter, Github Ken Wheeler – Twitter, GitHub,...

  10. The Future of Work with AWS's Nader Dabit

    Nader Dabit is a Developer Advocate at AWS and Founder of React Native Training. He joins hosts Jared Palmer and Ken Wheeler on The Undefined to talk about React Europe, React hooks, the future of work, consulting, and more. Featuring Nader Dabit - Twitter, Github, Website, Consultancy Ken…

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  11. Work/Life Balance with Square's Jackie Luo

    Jackie Luo is a platform engineer at Square. She joins hosts Jared Palmer and Ken Wheeler on The Undefined to talk about work/life balance React vs. Ember, NY vs. SF, CS degrees, and more. Featuring Jackie Luo - Twitter, Github, Website Ken Wheeler – Twitter, GitHub, Website Jared Palmer –…

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  12. Fake News and Frameworks with NYTimes Rich Harris

    Rich Harris is a Graphics Editor at The New York Times and the creator of Svelte and Rollup. He joins hosts Jared Palmer and Ken Wheeler on The Undefined to talk about his gig, the tools he uses to write interactive articles, and about what's new in Svelte v3.0. Featuring Rich Harris - Twitter,...

  13. How to Save the Web with Expo's Brent Vatne

    Brent Vatne is a Software Engineer at Expo. He joins hosts Jared Palmer and Ken Wheeler on The Undefined to talk about the future of the web, native development, and more. Featuring Brent Vatne - Twitter, Github Ken Wheeler – Twitter, GitHub, Website Jared Palmer – Twitter, GitHub, Website 👉…

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  14. Smoosh with Formidable's Jani Eväkallio

    Jani Eväkallio is the VP of Engineering at Formidable Labs and the creator of @Smoosh_Comedy. He joins hosts Jared Palmer and Ken Wheeler on The Undefined to talk about the meaning of life, the universe, and everything...JavaScript. Featuring Jani Eväkallio - Twitter, Github Ken Wheeler –…

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  15. Dank Memes and JS Dreams with Stripe's Jordan Scales

    Jordan Scales is a Software Engineer at Stripe and notorious Twitter memelord. He joins us on The Undefined to talk about dank memes, his origin story, and Stripe's React component library and frontend developer experience. Featuring Jordan Scales - Twitter, Github, Website Ken Wheeler – Twitter,...

  16. Developer Avocado Toast with Dev.to's Ali Spittel

    Ali Spittel is a Software Engineer and Developer Advocate at Dev.to. Prior to her new gig, she was a Lead Instructor of Web Development at General Assembly. She joins us on The Undefined to talk about her new role, the reality of coding bootcamps, and the ups and downs of remote work. Featuring…

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  17. Stop the Standup with Spotify's Jason Palmer

    Jason Palmer is the Product Manager of Web Infrastructure at Spotify and core Jest team member. He joins us on The Undefined to talk about engineering team management, avoiding useless meetings, optimal testing strategies, and getting swole AF for conference season. Featuring Jason Palmer -...

  18. Moving the Web Forward with Sunil Pai

    Sunil Pai is a Software Engineer at Facebook, React team member, and the creator of Glamor. He joins us on The Undefined to talk about the state of the web, the past, present, and future of text editors and IDEs, how he learned to code, and how our community needs to evolve to survive. Featuring...

  19. The Future of JavaScript Tooling with Sebastian McKenzie

    Sebastian McKenzie is a Software Engineer at Facebook and the creator of Babel and Yarn. He joins us on The Undefined to chat about the ups and downs of open source software, what it's like to work at Facebook, and a brand new toolchain he's working on that blurs the lines between JavaScript...

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The only engineering podcast with a 2 drink minimum! Full stack developers Jared Palmer and Ken Wheeler have peer-to-peer conversations with world-class engineers about software development.

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Jared Palmer & Ken Wheeler

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The only engineering podcast with a 2 drink minimum! Full stack developers Jared Palmer and Ken Wheeler have peer-to-peer conversations with world-class engineers about software development.

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