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The Unruffled Podcast
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The Unruffled Podcast is a weekly show hosted by Sondra Primeaux and Tammi Salas that explores all topics relating to creativity in recovery. When an addiction is removed, there is a void that is left and this show digs into all of the ways to fill that void. The Unruffled is passionate about creating and making and how those pursuits fuel recovery, specifically from alcohol. Come with them as they unruffle the old stories and write new ones, to not just exist but thrive.
Episodes
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Episode 209 - Checking In Feb. 2025
did you know that tammi salas + sondra primeaux co-hosted @theunruffledpodcast from 2017 - 2021? yes, we used to record a weekly episode for four years straight! it definitely kept us sober. in the summer of 2021, during the pandemic, we hit an indefinite pause on the podcast. recently, we…
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Episode 208 - This is Us (Vol 6)
We are back for a check-in with each other! Our last recording was in August 2021. This is Us NOW in 2022.
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Episode 207 - Goodbye For Now, Unruffleds
After 4+ years, over 200 episodes and 1M downloads, Tammi and Sondra are ready to take an indefinite break from recording the podcast. The pandemic of 2020-21 has invited so many emotions: grief, resilience, liminality. But it has also invited us to question how we do everything. Tammi and Sondra...
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Episode 206 - Days Of Summer
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra talk about Summer: Summer plans, Summer travel, and most importantly, Summer sobriety. This week, Sondra and Tammi share three items from their Unruffled Toolbox: Sondra: (1) Nine Perfect Strangers by Liane Moriarty; (2) HBOmax series Hacks; and (3) New...
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Episode 205 - Anthony Eder
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra welcome Anthony Eder. Anthony loves music, knitting and connecting with people in recovery, all from the beautiful mountains of Southern California. He also hosts one of the queer-focused meetings at The Luckiest Club, an online sobriety support…
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Episode 204 - Milestones
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra talk about some big and fast approaching milestones. Milestones, whether they are graduations, sober anniversaries or birthdays, are always part joy and part grief. This episode is about the navigation of emotions, emotions made available as a byproduct…
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Episode 203 - Casey McGuire Davidson
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra welcome Casey McGuire Davidson. Casey is a certified professional life and sobriety coach and the host of The Hello Someday Podcast. “Is sobriety boring?” is a question Casey hears often as a coach. They talk about the fear of boredom that keeps some...
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Episode 202 - Overfunction Much?
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra work a few ideas out: overfunctioning, expectations that turn into resentments and efforting that goes nowhere. This week, Sondra and Tammi share three items from their Unruffled Toolbox: Sondra: (1) Wintering: The Power of Rest and Retreat in Difficult...
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Episode 201 - Kate Baily
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra welcome Kate Baily. Kate is a certified Life and Personal Performance Coach who specializes in helping women get, stay and love being sober. She is also the coauthor of the book “Love Yourself Sober” and is the cohost of the Love Sober podcast with Mandy...
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Episode 200 - 200!
Tammi and Sondra are back from a much-needed podcast break, and they catch up on four areas: family, creativity, health and recovery. This week, Sondra and Tammi share three items from their Unruffled Toolbox: Sondra: (1) Do Nothing: How to break away from overworking, overdoing and underliving…
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Episode 199 - Carrie Mallon
Today on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra are excited to welcome Carrie Mallon. Carrie is a professional tarot reader, teacher, and co-creator of The Spacious Tarot deck. Carrie gives some history of tarot, explains the basics of a tarot deck and her ideas on how tarot can be part of any spiritual...
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Episode 198 - Inauguration Day
Today on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra reflect on Inauguration Day. They gush about the women and the diversity and the art on the stage. They talk about being spellbound by the fashion and the poet, Amanda Gorman. They talk about the message of hope delivered and received, and felt that was…
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Episode 197 - Natha Campanella
This week on the podcast, Sondra and Tammi welcome back their friend and favorite astrologer, Natha Campanella. (Natha’s first appearance was Episode 60.) They asked Natha to come back so they could discuss some things that were brought up in each of the various readings they’d had with her and...
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Episode 196 - Sobriety Is My Manager
Today on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra process some thoughts about January 6th, 2021. They talk about safety as a privilege, they talk about sobriety as a manager when all other leadership feels absent, and they talk about tools for anxiety (spoiler: sometimes a tool is pizza).
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Episode 195 - New Year's Evolution, 2021
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra look ahead to the new year. This is their fourth time to do a New Year’s podcast and it definitely has a different tone than any they’ve recorded. They talk about the realities of a new year while still in a pandemic, they talk about their words for the...
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Episode 194 - 2020 Year In Review
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra review the year, and what a year it’s been. They talk about the clarity that has come from 2020, the ways they double-downed on their recovery and they reflect on their 2020 Words of the Year, ending with a projection for 2021. This week, Sondra and…
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Episode 193 - Cody Degerness
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra welcome back their sweet French friend, Cody Degerness. Cody first told his story on the podcast (Episode 132) back in 2019 and returned in 2020 to talk about the Unruffled Florence Retreat (Episode 150) that sadly never happened due to the pandemic. Now...
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Episode 192 - Linda Parmar
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra share a conversation with Linda Parmar. Linda is a Certified Money Coach©, Financial Recovery Counsellor℠, and Professional Recovery Coach who spent twenty years as a Financial Advisor. Becoming sober over six years ago, Linda also realized that she had…
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Episode 191 - Shari Hampton
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra welcome back Shari Hampton. Shari was previously on Episode 84 two years ago as the founder of Served Up Sober, and now she’s back to talk about her new roles as a Trusted Advisor for SHE RECOVERS Foundation and an anti-racist consultant who works with...
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Episode 190 - Becky Joyce
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra are excited to share a conversation with Becky Joyce. Becky is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker who has worked in private practice in Bend, Oregon for over fourteen years. Her business Noonday Counseling & Wellness was created out of a dream to provide…
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Episode 189 - Holidaze III
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra dish about the approaching holidays. They talk about what it was like, how holiday 2020 will be like no other, and what they are doing to fortify their recovery. This week, Sondra and Tammi share three items from their Unruffled Toolbox: Sondra: (1)…
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Episode 188 - Pete White
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra are happy to share a conversation with Pete White. Fun fact, Pete was the only male to ever be in the Unruffled secret Facebook group, but that was only for a couple of weeks. When they decided it was to be female-identified only, he was gracious to…
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Episode 187 - Post - Election Download
Today on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra download some thoughts about the 2020 election, recorded on the day after. They express some emotion but to stay in solution, they share lots of tools.
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Episode 186 - Colleen Marie
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra welcome their friend, Colleen Marie. Colleen works full-time in marketing and franchise business development for a fitness studio and is also developing a platform to help yoga teachers create their own businesses while she concurrently creates her own....
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Episode 185 - Erin Khar
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra welcome writer and recovery advocate, Erin Khar. They talk about her debut memoir, Strung Out: One Last Hit and Other Lies that Nearly Killed Me, a deeply personal account of her fifteen-year struggle with heroin. They talk about the national opioid…
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Episode 184 - Anger Management
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra talk about emotions that are coming up for them at this time, namely anger. They talk about the source and the solution. It’s an intimate conversation this week, like a good therapy session.
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Episode 183 - Michelle Nicole
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra welcome their friend, Michelle Nicole. Michelle found recovery at the age of nineteen and has spent over half of her life actively involved in 12 step recovery. They talk about the deep reverence she has for 12 step, and they talk about how online…
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Episode 182 - Kara Jean
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra are thrilled to share a conversation with their friend, Kara Jean. They talk about what it’s like to get sober in your twenties and the unique challenges that come with that. Kara is an inspirational example for anyone who thinks that just maybe they…
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Episode 181 - Erin Jean Warde
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra are excited to share a conversation with Rev. Erin Jean Warde. Erin is an Austin-based Episcopal priest, spiritual director, writer and Peer Coach at Tempest. They talk about what it’s like to get sober when you have a solid theology behind you, they…
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Episode 180 - Amy Eden Jollymore
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra share a conversation with Amy Eden Jollymore. Amy is a California-based author and journal writing advocate. They talk extensively about being an adult child of an alcoholic and disordered eating, two topics not often explored on the podcast, and Amy...
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Episode 179 - Covid Summer Wrap - Up
This week, Tammi and Sondra wrap up Covid Summer 2020. They talk about what sheltering at home continues to look like, they talk about what remote learning for their kids looks like, and they talk about the “new normal”. This week Sondra and Tammi share items from their Unruffled Toolboxes…
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Episode 178 - Enter, The Crone
This week, Tammi and Sondra talk about aging. They talk about the privileges of getting older, the byproducts of getting older, and what to do with regret. The Crone archetype invites embodied wisdom and Tammi and Sondra welcome her. This week Sondra and Tammi share items from their Unruffled...
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Episode 177 - Tammi’s Recovery Evolution
This week on the podcast, Sondra turns the tables and interviews Tammi about her recovery. The talk about where she started, how her interests have expanded and how she has deepened her commitments in the process. If you want to listen to her beginnings, go all the way back to Episode 3: Meet…
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Episode 176 - Sondra’s Recovery Evolution
This week on the podcast, Tammi interviews Sondra about her recovery. They talk about where she started, how she has changed and how the tools and programs she uses have changed in the process. If you want to listen to where she started, go all the way back to Episode 2: Meet Sondra Primeaux.
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Episode 175 - Summer Consumption
This week on the podcast, Sondra and Tammi run down the list of what they are watching, listening to and reading this summer. For Sondra, she’s watching We Are Freestyle Love Supreme, listening to the Rich Roll Podcast, Ep. 533 with Dr. Andrew Huberman and Rabbit Hole podcast series from the NYT,...
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Episode 174 - Laura Silverman
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra are excited to welcome Laura Silverman. Laura is a force in the recovery community. Since 2015, she has built a dynamic community around The Sobriety Collective, Booze Free in DC, and Zero Proof Nation, with former Unruffled Podcast guest Chris Marshall...
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Episode 173 - This Is Us (Vol 5)
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra do a quick Summer check-in. They talk about the push and pull of action and rest, they talk about push and pull of worry and peace, and they talk about the push and pull of confinement and freedom. Summer 2020, though hard to define, will not likely be...
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Episode 172 - Shelley Richanbach
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra welcome Shelley Richanbach. Shelley is a certified drug and alcohol counselor and an expressive arts educator in the San Francisco Bay Area. They talk about the impact expressive arts have had on Shelley’s recovery and how she uses her knowledge and...
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Episode 171 - Dawn Hoppe
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra welcome Dawn Hoppe. Dawn is a yoga teacher and jewelry maker living her best life in Sacramento, California with her husband and cat. They talk about how yoga nudged her towards sobriety, they talk about her unplanned foray into a jewelry-making career,...
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Episode 170 - Frances Waddell
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra welcome Frances Waddell. Frances lives in a small cabin with her husband and dog in the foothills of Mt. Hood in Sandy, Oregon. She’s a sober, full-time artist who loves botany, mycology, gardening, cooking and rollerskating. They talk about PTSD and how...
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Episode 169 - Carol Ann Sicbaldi
Today on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra welcome Carol Ann Sicbaldi. Carol is a guide of bespoke Italian tours through her company, Carol’s Moveable Feast. Having lived in Italy for over twenty years, she specializes in tailoring tours to the region, focusing on local authentic foods, farmers and...
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Episode 168 - Summer Surge
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra have a concentrated conversation on what creative life currently looks like. Tammi talks about feeling a creative surge through painting and her online offerings, while Sondra’s creativity looks more like steady making and learning. As they explore their...
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Episode 167 - This Is Us (Vol 4)
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra catch up on four topics: Recovery, Health, Creativity and Family. They talk about making during shelter-at-home, they talk about evolving family dynamics, and they talk about going back to recovery basics. It’s always fun to catch up! This week Sondra…
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Episode 166 - We Can Do Better
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra talk about anti-racism. They talk about the decision to skip the release of a podcast during the Black Lives Matter protests for the first time in three years to take time to get quiet, listen and learn. They share about their own blind spots and shame...
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Episode 165 - Jardine Libaire + Amanda Ward
This month on the podcast, Sondra is going solo with an author series. This week, she is thrilled to share a conversation with authors Jardine Libaire and Amanda Eyre Ward and their book, The Sober Lush: A Hedonist's Guide to Living a Decadent, Adventurous, Soulful Life--Alcohol Free. They talk...
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Episode 164 - Emily Lynn Paulson
This month on the podcast, Sondra is going solo with an author series. This week, she’s excited to share a conversation with Emily Lynn Paulson. Emily is a writer, speaker, recovery coach, mom of five and author of Highlight Real: Finding Honesty and Recovery Behind the Filtered Life. They talk...
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Episode 163 - Jocellyn Harvey
This month on the podcast, Sondra is going solo with an author series. This week, she is excited to share a conversation with Jocellyn Harvey. Jocellyn’s life changed in 2016 when she gave up alcohol and as a life-long sharer, she immediately began talking about her recovery online. Her topics of...
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Episode 162 - Emily Arnason Casey
This month on the podcast, Sondra is going solo with an author series. This week, she’s thrilled to share a conversation with writer Emily Arnason Casey about her book, Made Holy: Essays. They talk about the nuanced definition of alcoholism as a disease, they talk about the courage to write...
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Episode 161 - Spike Gillespie + Steve Eckelman
This month on the podcast, Sondra is going solo with an author series. First up, she’s excited to introduce Spike Gillespie and Steve Eckelman and their collaborative book, Sleeping Bees: Why Doing Nothing Matters. After hearing the other’s recovery story in Austin, Texas, the writers’ idea to…
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Episode 160 - Shelter In Heart
This week on the podcast, Tammi and Sondra catch up on what life is like sheltering at home. They talk about making changes, big and small, with the message that home is a feeling of peace in the heart.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
The Unruffled Podcast is a weekly show hosted by Sondra Primeaux and Tammi Salas that explores all topics relating to creativity in recovery. When an addiction is removed, there is a void that is left and this show digs into all of the ways to fill that void. The Unruffled is passionate about creating and making and how those pursuits fuel recovery, specifically from alcohol. Come with them as they unruffle the old stories and write new ones, to not just exist but thrive.
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