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The Unscripted Order Podcast
by The Unscripted Order Podcast
Two brothers, B. James Smalls and D. Lamont Bugg, from the 757, discussing life, the law, and everything in between.
Episodes
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Wait, My Divorce and Custody Case Are in Two Different Courts? | Family Law: JDR vs. Circuit Court | The Unscripted Order Podcast Episode 23
Divorce in circuit court. Custody in JDR court. Can that really happen? Two Virginia judges explain exactly how it works.In Episode 23 of The Unscripted Order Podcast, Judge Bugg (Circuit Court) and Judge Smalls (JDR court) talk about the area of law they both handle regularly: family law,...
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Never Picked, But Chosen | A Conversation with BK Fulton (Lawyer, Engineer, Media CEO) | The Unscripted Order Ep. 22
Episode 22: We sit down with BK Fulton — attorney, engineer, and media CEO — for a conversation that spans faith, failure, mentorship, and building an empire that includes twenty feature films, four #1 Broadway shows, four Tony Awards, a Smithsonian Laureate Medal winner, a Sloan Fellow, a…
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The Trailblazer: Chief Justice Cleo Powell Makes History | The Unscripted Order Podcast | Episode 21
Chief Justice Cleo Powell has sat on every level of the Virginia court system — and made history at every stop. Raised in rural Brunswick County in a four-room house with no indoor plumbing, she became the first African American woman to serve on the Supreme Court of Virginia, and in 2026 was…
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Then & Now: One Year, Unscripted | The Unscripted Order Podcast | Episode 20
Twenty episodes. One year. Zero scripts.In this special anniversary episode, Judge Brian Smalls and Judge Bugg look back at everything that got The Unscripted Order Podcast here — from a nervous, fumbling Episode 1 recorded in a loft with a laptop camera, to sit-downs with Chief Justice Bernard...
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Nash Vegas: Two Conferences, One Order | The Unscripted Order Podcast | Episode 19
Episode 19 of The Unscripted Order Podcast is a little different — we recorded this one on the road, live from Nashville, where B. Smalls and D. Bugg ended up at two completely different conferences at the same time without even planning it.B. Smalls was in town for the National Council of…
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"Hey Judge": What That Title Really Means | The Unscripted Order Podcast Episode 18
Five+ years on the bench, and hearing someone call you "Judge" outside the courtroom can still stop you in your tracks. In this episode, Judge Smalls and Judge Bugg get personal about what that title means — in the hallway, in line at Chicken Salad Chick, and even at the U.S. Supreme Court.We dig...
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The Adrenaline of Excellence | The Honorable Gerald Bruce Lee | The Unscripted Order Podcast Ep. 17
What does it take to go from sweeping the streets of public housing in Southeast DC to sitting on the federal bench for over 25 years? Judge Gerald Bruce Lee doesn't just answer that question — he lives it.In this episode of The Unscripted Order Podcast, Judge Brian Smalls and Judge Dontae' Bugg...
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The Shingle: Dos & Don'ts of Hanging Out Your Own Shingle | The Unscripted Order Podcast Ep. 16
Two judges. Two mics. No guests. No filter.Episode 16 of The Unscripted Order Podcast is here — and this one is for every attorney, entrepreneur, consultant, freelancer, or anyone who has ever thought about betting on themselves."The Shingle" is our deep dive into what it actually takes to hang…
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Answering the Call | MABLSA's 58th Annual Regional Convention | The Unscripted Order Podcast Ep. 15
What does it mean to show up when no one else will? In this episode of The Unscripted Order Podcast, The Law School Series, we give the mic away entirely — turning it over to the students of the Mid-Atlantic Black Law Student Association (MABLSA) at their 58th Annual Regional Convention in...
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Almost Esquire: What Nobody Tells You About Law School | Mecca Vance + Jason Whitted | The Unscripted Order Podcast | Episode 14 (The Law School Series)
We pulled up to the nation's first law school — William & Mary School of Law — and sat down with two of its finest for Episode 14 of the Unscripted Order Podcast. Meet Mecca Vance and Jason Whitted. Two third-year law students. Two incredible journeys. And one unscripted conversation about what…
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He Has 9 Kids, a Dean's Office & Zero Imposter Syndrome (The Dean's List) | Dean Ben Spencer | The Unscripted Order Podcast Episode 13 (The Law School Series--William and Mary School of Law)
Some people are shaped by greatness. Dean A. Benjamin Spencer was raised by it. The first Black Dean of William & Mary School of Law — and the first Black Dean of any school or department in the College's entire history — Dean Spencer sits down with us for a conversation that is equal parts...
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From the Bottom to the Bench (Chief Justice S. Bernard Goodwyn) | The Unscripted Order Podcast S2E4
In this powerful episode of The Unscripted Order Podcast, Judges Bugg and Smalls sit down with the Honorable Chief Justice Bernard Goodwyn — retired Chief Justice of the Virginia Supreme Court — for a conversation about life, legacy, faith, and the long road to greatness.Chief Justice Goodwyn…
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The Cases That Changed Us | The Unscripted Order Podcast | Season 2 Episode 3
Some cases don’t just pass through the courtroom. They pass through you. In Season 2, Episode 3 of The Unscripted Order Podcast, Judges Dontae' Bugg and Brian Smalls reflect on the cases that changed them forever. From moments that tested integrity to trials that reshaped perspective, this…
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The Work Before the Ruling: Judicial Preparation Explained | The Unscripted Order Podcast | S2E2
In Season 2, Episode 2 of The Unscripted Order Podcast, the judges take you behind the bench and into the preparation process that happens long before the gavel sounds.How does a judge prepare for a full docket? What role does legal research play? Do judges really know every area of the law? In...
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Beyond the Robe | What It Really Means to Be a Judge | The Unscripted Order Podcast Season 2 Ep. 1
Season 2 of The Unscripted Order Podcast begins by going Beyond the Robe.In this premiere episode, Judges Smalls and Bugg return to the bench to reflect on what Season 1 revealed, how the podcast changed them, and what people still don’t see about life as a judge. This conversation isn’t about...
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Influencers: The People Who Shaped the Judges' Paths — From the Classroom to the Courtroom | The Unscripted Order Podcast Episode 7
Every journey has people who helped pave the way — mentors, teachers, coaches, and colleagues who saw something in us before we saw it in ourselves. In Episode 7 of The Unscripted Order Podcast, Judge Smalls and Judge Bugg reflect on the influencers who shaped their paths — in the classroom, on…
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Our Top 5 Movies & Shows of All Time (Soundtracks/Theme Songs) | The Unscripted Order Podcast | Ep. 6
In Episode 6 of The Unscripted Order Podcast, Judges Smalls and Bugg dive into their Top 5 movies and TV shows of all time — and also focusing on soundtracks and theme songs that defined an era. 🎶From The Color Purple and Boyz N the Hood to The Last Dragon and Hustle & Flow, the judges share...
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Episode 5 – The Great Debate | The Unscripted Order Podcast
**🎙️ Episode 5 – The Great Debate | The Unscripted Order Podcast**The bench gets *heated* in this one! 🔥 Judges Bugg and Smalls go head-to-head in a series of lively debates — from who’s the greatest rapper of all time to the best R&B groups ever to bless a mic. 🎤 In their Off the Record...
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Straight Out the 757 | Iverson, Vick & Virginia Legends | The Unscripted Order Podcast Ep. 4
Welcome to Episode 4 of The Unscripted Order Podcast – Straight Out the 757!In this episode, Judges Smalls and Bugg pay tribute to the 757, the area of Virginia that shaped their lives and careers. From sports legends to music icons and cultural influences, the 757 has produced some of the…
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The Unscripted Order Podcast (Episode 3) | From TV Court to Real Court--Courtroom Myths vs. Reality
Episode 3 of The Unscripted Order Podcast is here! Judges Bugg and Smalls break down some of the biggest misconceptions about courtrooms and the judicial process. From what you see on TV court shows to what actually happens in real life, the judges give you the inside scoop on how it really...
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The Unscripted Order Podcast | Episode 2 -- Balance Beyond the Bench
The Unscripted Order Podcast | Episode 2 – Balance Beyond the BenchD. Bugg and B. Smalls are back with another real conversation. In this episode, we talk about the challenges of work-life balance — how we manage the pressure of always having to be “on”, why it’s important not to let the position...
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The Unscripted Order Podcast: Episode 1--Journey to the Bench
Welcome to the very first episode of the Unscripted Order Podcast! 🎙️In this debut, we get real about our journeys to the bench—sharing the ups, the downs, the trials, the tribulations, and everything in between. From the highlights that pushed us forward to the low moments that tested us, we’re...
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Two brothers, B. James Smalls and D. Lamont Bugg, from the 757, discussing life, the law, and everything in between.
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