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When Carlos Abrams-Rivera became CEO of Kraft Heinz, the biggest challenge wasn't managing a global business, it was discovering how leadership changes you. Overnight, people treated him differently. One of his executive coaches gave him a warning he'd never forget: "You no longer own your own face." In this episode of The World Class Leaders Show, Andrea Petrone sits down with Carlos for a candid conversation about the realities of leading at the highest level. Drawing on more than 30 years of leadership across Kraft Foods, Mondelēz, Campbell's, and Kraft Heinz, Carlos shares the lessons that only come from leading one of the world's largest consumer brands. From navigating the loneliness of the CEO role and receiving the brutal "Red Folder" feedback that reshaped his leadership, to building trust, leading through uncertainty, and proving the ROI of AI before scaling it across 36,000+ employees, this conversation offers a rare look inside the mindset of a Fortune 500 CEO. Whether you're a CEO, founder, entrepreneur, executive, or aspiring leader, you'll walk away with practical insights on leadership, decision-making, resilience, AI, and building organizations that thrive through change. 🔑 In This Episode What really changes the day you become CEO Why people start treating leaders differently overnight The "Red Folder" leadership exercise that transformed Carlos' approach forever Why every CEO needs coaches and brutally honest feedback How to protect your family while carrying the weight of leadership Why CEOs have become one of the last trusted voices in society How Kraft Heinz proved AI's ROI before scaling it across 36,000+ employees ⏱ Chapters 00:00 Introduction 00:36 The Biggest Surprise After Becoming CEO 02:49 Why Carlos Performs Best Under Pressure 05:35 Why Every CEO Needs Coaches 10:08 The "Red Folder" Leadership Lesson 15:40 Protecting Your Family from CEO Pressure 18:27 Why CEOs Are Becoming Society's Trusted Voice 23:46 How Kraft Heinz Approached AI 28:03 Changing Company Culture with AI 32:55 AI Advice for CEOs in the Next 90 Days 34:59 Life After Stepping Down as CEO 39:08 Why Volatility Is the New Normal 43:20 Advice for Future Leaders     📘 PRE-ORDER MY NEW BOOK Reinvention at the Top: The Playbook for CEOs to Lead Under Pressure (Wiley) is available for pre-order now. 👉 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Reinvention-Top-Playbook-Under-Pressure/dp/1394430426     🚀 JOIN WCL21 WCL21 is a private community for CEOs leading mid-market companies, featuring confidential peer roundtables, masterclasses, and leadership conversations. 👉 https://andreapetrone.com/wcl21     📩 NEWSLETTER Join 183,000+ leaders receiving Andrea Petrone's weekly leadership insights. 👉 https://www.andreapetrone.com/newsletter/ Connect with Andrea Petrone LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreapetrone/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andreapetrone_x Connect with Carlos Abrams-Rivera LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/abramsrivera/

A McKinsey study found that 72% of senior executives now make bad decisions as often as good ones and the world isn't slowing down to give them room to cat ch up. Wars, inflation, AI disruption, and an ever-growing list of stakeholders are colliding faster than most leadership models were built to handle. In this episode, Andrea Petrone sits down with Cornelia Choe, CEO of The Leaders Alliance and co-author, alongside Marshall Goldsmith, of the upcoming book The Panoramic Leader: How Great Leaders See Differently. Cornelia has advised CEOs, C-suite executives, and heads of multilateral organizations across five continents, with a background in private equity and Morgan Stanley, degrees from Georgetown University and Harvard Kennedy School, and a life lived across seven countries. Together, they unpack panoramic leadership, the discipline of updating the mental map that quietly drives every decision you make, before reality outpaces it. Cornelia walks through the GEM method (Get up close, Establish meaningful bonds, Map your evolving perspective) using real turnarounds at Ford and Best Buy, introduces the idea of "optimistic fear" through Serena Williams' comeback after her biggest loss, and gives leaders one simple question to find their own blind spots: who's not at my table? Key Takeaways: Why 72% of senior executives make bad decisions as often as good ones. How Alan Mulally turned around Ford by eating lunch in the employee cafeteria. Why your "mental map" can quietly turn into your biggest blind spot. How the GEM method helped Best Buy outmaneuver Amazon, Samsung, and Apple. Why "optimistic fear" fueled Serena Williams' comeback after her worst loss. How one question, "who's not at my table?" exposes hidden blind spots. Why leadership identity needs to flex across context without losing itself. _________________________________________________________________ BOOK PRE-ORDER 📘 My new book 'Reinvention at the Top: The Playbook for CEOs to Lead Under Pressure' (Wiley) is out in October. Pre-order your copy now: 👉 BOOK PRE-ORDER LINK _________________________________________________________________ FREE GUIDE Want to establish authority and lead with confidence from Day One as a CEO? Grab your FREE copy of '10 Foolproof Ways New CEOs Establish Authority From Day One': 👉 Download - https://bit.ly/10-fool-proof-ceo-strategies  _________________________________________________________________ WCL21 WCL21 is a private, curated community of CEOs running mid-market companies. Monthly roundtables, masterclasses, and confidential conversations that don't happen anywhere else. We're in the founding member phase — a few seats remain. 👉 Request your invitation: https://andreapetrone.com/wcl21  _________________________________________________________________ 1:1 COACHING Want to work with me directly? I coach a small number of CEOs and senior leaders each year through exactly the challenges in this show. 👉 Apply for 1:1 coaching: https://calendly.com/andreapetrone/strategy-call-30 _________________________________________________________________ COACHING APP Want to grow as a leader on the go? My Executive coaching app helps Directors, VPs and C-suite leaders build world-class leadership habits, guided by the Throughline™ framework: Identity, Message, Presence. 👉 See the app: https://studio.com/apps/andreapetrone/executive _________________________________________________________________ NEWSLETTER Join 183,000+ leaders who read my weekly insights on leading at the top: 👉  https://www.andreapetrone.com/newsletter/ _________________________________________________________________ MORE FROM ANDREA Follow our Host Andrea Petrone on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreapetrone/   Website: https://www.andreapetrone.com Instagram: instagram.com/andreapetrone_x Follow The World Class Leaders Show: Apple: https://shorturl.at/JZAmQ Spotify: https://shorturl.at/DSHUl LinkedIn:   https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-world-class-leaders-show/ Website: https://www.andreapetrone.com/podcast/ _________________________________________________________________ Follow Cornelia Choe: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cornelia-choe/ Website: https://www.corneliachoe.com Book: The Panoramic Leader: How Great Leaders See Differently — with Marshall Goldsmith, out July 7 (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GX2XPRMV) Company: The Leaders Alliance 

Here's something I've learned after coaching hundreds of CEOs. When a company stalls, the strategy is rarely the first thing that fails. The top team failed first, quietly, months before the numbers showed it. In this episode I walk through the six signs that tell you your leadership team is failing you, often long before the results do. Leadership breakdowns don't announce themselves. They show up as slightly slower decisions, a little more politics, one too many escalations landing on your desk, nothing dramatic enough to trigger alarm until the damage is already done. I cover the six signals to watch for, from decisions routing through the CEO and disagreement disappearing from the room, to bad news arriving late and leaders quietly working around each other instead of through each other. I also get into why CEOs consistently wait too long to act, and the one question every CEO should be asking about their leadership team before the board asks it for them. The bottom line is that a wrong person left too long in a leadership seat doesn't just underperform. They reset the standard for everyone below them. Timestamps 0:00 Introduction and the central idea 0:30 Why strategy doesn't fail first, the top team fails first 3:00 The six signals of a failing leadership team 8:00 Why CEOs wait too long to act 10:00 Closing thoughts and the question every CEO should ask _________________________________________________________________ BOOK PRE-ORDER 📘 My new book 'Reinvention at the Top: The Playbook for CEOs to Lead Under Pressure' (Wiley) is out in October. Pre-order your copy now: 👉 BOOK PRE-ORDER LINK _________________________________________________________________ FREE GUIDE Want to establish authority and lead with confidence from Day One as a CEO? Grab your FREE copy of '10 Foolproof Ways New CEOs Establish Authority From Day One': 👉 Download - https://bit.ly/10-fool-proof-ceo-strategies  _________________________________________________________________ WCL21 WCL21 is a private, curated community of CEOs running mid-market companies. Monthly roundtables, masterclasses, and confidential conversations that don't happen anywhere else. We're in the founding member phase — a few seats remain. 👉 Request your invitation: https://andreapetrone.com/wcl21  _________________________________________________________________ 1:1 COACHING Want to work with me directly? I coach a small number of CEOs and senior leaders each year through exactly the challenges in this show. 👉 Apply for 1:1 coaching: https://calendly.com/andreapetrone/strategy-call-30 _________________________________________________________________ COACHING APP Want to grow as a leader on the go? My Executive coaching app helps Directors, VPs and C-suite leaders build world-class leadership habits, guided by the Throughline™ framework: Identity, Message, Presence. 👉 See the app: https://studio.com/apps/andreapetrone/executive _________________________________________________________________ NEWSLETTER Join 183,000+ leaders who read my weekly insights on leading at the top: 👉  https://www.andreapetrone.com/newsletter/ _________________________________________________________________ MORE FROM ANDREA Follow our Host Andrea Petrone on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreapetrone/   Website: https://www.andreapetrone.com Instagram: instagram.com/andreapetrone_x Follow The World Class Leaders Show: Apple: https://shorturl.at/JZAmQ Spotify: https://shorturl.at/DSHUl LinkedIn:   https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-world-class-leaders-show/ Website: https://www.andreapetrone.com/podcast/

Most leadership models assume tomorrow will look like today. But what happens when war, a pandemic, economic shocks, or AI reshape your market overnight? In this episode, Andrea Petrone sits down with Alain Bejjani, former CEO of Majid Al Futtaim Group, investor, Shark Tank Lebanon panelist, and author of *NEXT: Leading Through the New Realities*. Alain led a 50,000-person, multi-billion-dollar group across the Middle East, Africa, and Central Asia through a pandemic, oil price collapse, and regional conflict without abandoning his core leadership principles. They explore why resilience must be built before a crisis, why AI is changing growth and headcount, and why disruption is not the opposite of direction. Key Takeaways:  Why efficiency breaks under disruption, and why redundancy and resilience matter  The COVID decision Alain made as CEO, and how it built long-term trust  What AI means for teams, roles, and headcount How leaders can help people find purpose as AI reshapes work and identity Why disruption is exposing a leadership gap What Western leadership can learn from Japan’s school system How leaders can define a North Star in turbulent times _________________________________________________________________ BOOK PRE-ORDER 📘 My new book 'Reinvention at the Top: The Playbook for CEOs to Lead Under Pressure' (Wiley) is out in October. Pre-order your copy now: 👉 BOOK PRE-ORDER LINK _________________________________________________________________ FREE GUIDE Want to establish authority and lead with confidence from Day One as a CEO? Grab your FREE copy of '10 Foolproof Ways New CEOs Establish Authority From Day One': 👉 Download - https://bit.ly/10-fool-proof-ceo-strategies  _________________________________________________________________ WCL21 WCL21 is a private, curated community of CEOs running mid-market companies. Monthly roundtables, masterclasses, and confidential conversations that don't happen anywhere else. We're in the founding member phase — a few seats remain. 👉 Request your invitation: https://andreapetrone.com/wcl21  _________________________________________________________________ 1:1 COACHING Want to work with me directly? I coach a small number of CEOs and senior leaders each year through exactly the challenges in this show. 👉 Apply for 1:1 coaching: https://calendly.com/andreapetrone/strategy-call-30 _________________________________________________________________ COACHING APP Want to grow as a leader on the go? My Executive coaching app helps Directors, VPs and C-suite leaders build world-class leadership habits, guided by the Throughline™ framework: Identity, Message, Presence. 👉 See the app: https://studio.com/apps/andreapetrone/executive _________________________________________________________________ NEWSLETTER Join 183,000+ leaders who read my weekly insights on leading at the top: 👉  https://www.andreapetrone.com/newsletter/ _________________________________________________________________ MORE FROM ANDREA Follow our Host Andrea Petrone on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreapetrone/   Website: https://www.andreapetrone.com Instagram: instagram.com/andreapetrone_x Follow The World Class Leaders Show: Apple: https://shorturl.at/JZAmQ Spotify: https://shorturl.at/DSHUl LinkedIn:   https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-world-class-leaders-show/ Website: https://www.andreapetrone.com/podcast/ _________________________________________________________________  Follow Alain Bejjani: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alainbejjani  Website: https://alainbejjani.com/    Book: NEXT: Leading Through the New Realities  Company: https://www.majidalfuttaim.com/

Every CEO faces this moment: a high-stakes decision with enormous consequences, real money on the line, thousands of people affected and not enough information to know what's right. The board wants conviction. The team wants clarity. And you're sitting there thinking: I'm not sure. In this episode, I'm breaking down what the best CEOs actually do under pressure, why the thing slowing down your decision-making rarely has to do with missing data, and the exact framework I walk my coaching clients through when they're stuck on irreversible calls with incomplete information. You'll discover how to distinguish reversible decisions from the truly irreversible ones, surface the critical assumptions that actually matter, develop the judgement to act inside uncertainty, and master the discipline that separates strong executive leadership from the leaders who freeze. Plus: the one thing most leaders get wrong after they decide and why it's the difference between building authority or losing it. If you're a CEO, founder, or executive leader wrestling with ambiguity and the weight of carrying decisions that nobody else can make, this one's for you. _______________________________________________________________________________ TIMESTAMPS (00:00) Introduction: When Data Isn't Enough (00:30) The Moment Every CEO Faces (03:15) Why CEOs Freeze on Big Decisions (06:45) The Real Problem: Anxiety, Not Missing Data (09:45) Judgement Over Certainty: The Core Reframe (12:15) Recognition-Primed Decision-Making & Expert Intuition (15:45) A Practical Four-Step Framework for High-Stakes Calls (23:30) The Discipline After the Decision: Commitment vs. Ego (25:30) Closing Thoughts: You Were Never Meant to Be Certain _______________________________________________________________________________ BOOK PRE-ORDER 📘 My new book 'Reinvention at the Top: The Playbook for CEOs to Lead Under Pressure' (Wiley) is out in October. Pre-order your copy now: 👉 BOOK PRE-ORDER LINK _______________________________________________________________________________ FREE GUIDE Want to establish authority and lead with confidence from Day One as a CEO? Grab your FREE copy of '10 Foolproof Ways New CEOs Establish Authority From Day One': 👉 Download - https://bit.ly/10-fool-proof-ceo-strategies  _______________________________________________________________________________ WCL21 WCL21 is a private, curated community of CEOs running mid-market companies. Monthly roundtables, masterclasses, and confidential conversations that don't happen anywhere else. We're in the founding member phase — a few seats remain. 👉 Request your invitation: https://andreapetrone.com/wcl21  _______________________________________________________________________________ 1:1 COACHING Want to work with me directly? I coach a small number of CEOs and senior leaders each year through exactly the challenges in this show. 👉 Apply for 1:1 coaching: https://calendly.com/andreapetrone/strategy-call-30 _______________________________________________________________________________ COACHING APP Want to grow as a leader on the go? My Executive coaching app helps Directors, VPs and C-suite leaders build world-class leadership habits, guided by the Throughline™ framework: Identity, Message, Presence. 👉 See the app: https://studio.com/apps/andreapetrone/executive _______________________________________________________________________________ NEWSLETTER Join 183,000+ leaders who read my weekly insights on leading at the top: 👉  https://www.andreapetrone.com/newsletter/ _______________________________________________________________________________ MORE FROM ANDREA Follow our Host Andrea Petrone on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreapetrone/   Website: https://www.andreapetrone.com Instagram: instagram.com/andreapetrone_x Follow The World Class Leaders Show: Apple: https://shorturl.at/JZAmQ Spotify: https://shorturl.at/DSHUl LinkedIn:   https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-world-class-leaders-show/ Website: https://www.andreapetrone.com/podcast/

Most leaders are trained to lead inside one system: one company, one market, one culture, one playbook. But what happens when your career requires you to move across countries, governments, boardrooms, startups, and global power structures — and still build trust? In this episode, Andrea Petrone sits down with Arun M. Kumar, Managing Partner at Celesta Capital, former Chairman and CEO of KPMG India, and former Assistant Secretary of Commerce under President Obama. Arun shares leadership lessons from working with Ratan Tata early in his career, representing the United States in global commercial diplomacy, leading thousands of people at KPMG India, and now investing in deep tech across the US-India corridor. This conversation is about the leadership skill that rarely appears in strategy decks but matters everywhere: the ability to build trust across borders, cultures, hierarchies, and systems. Arun explores why purpose, decency, teamwork, transparency, and cultural fluency are not soft ideas — they are essential leadership capabilities in a fragmented world. _________________________________________________________________ BOOK PRE-ORDER 📘 My new book 'Reinvention at the Top: The Playbook for CEOs to Lead Under Pressure' (Wiley) is out in October. Pre-order your copy now: 👉 BOOK PRE-ORDER LINK _________________________________________________________________ FREE GUIDE Want to establish authority and lead with confidence from Day One as a CEO? Grab your FREE copy of '10 Foolproof Ways New CEOs Establish Authority From Day One': 👉 Download - https://bit.ly/10-fool-proof-ceo-strategies  _________________________________________________________________ WCL21 WCL21 is a private, curated community of CEOs running mid-market companies. Monthly roundtables, masterclasses, and confidential conversations that don't happen anywhere else. We're in the founding member phase — a few seats remain. 👉 Request your invitation: https://andreapetrone.com/wcl21  _________________________________________________________________ 1:1 COACHING Want to work with me directly? I coach a small number of CEOs and senior leaders each year through exactly the challenges in this show. 👉 Apply for 1:1 coaching: https://calendly.com/andreapetrone/strategy-call-30 _________________________________________________________________ COACHING APP Want to grow as a leader on the go? My Executive coaching app helps Directors, VPs and C-suite leaders build world-class leadership habits, guided by the Throughline™ framework: Identity, Message, Presence. 👉 See the app: https://studio.com/apps/andreapetrone/executive _________________________________________________________________ NEWSLETTER Join 183,000+ leaders who read my weekly insights on leading at the top: 👉  https://www.andreapetrone.com/newsletter/ _________________________________________________________________ MORE FROM ANDREA Follow our Host Andrea Petrone on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreapetrone/   Website: https://www.andreapetrone.com Instagram: instagram.com/andreapetrone_x Follow The World Class Leaders Show: Apple: https://shorturl.at/JZAmQ Spotify: https://shorturl.at/DSHUl LinkedIn:   https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-world-class-leaders-show/ Website: https://www.andreapetrone.com/podcast/ _________________________________________________________________ Follow Arun M. Kumar: LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/arunmkumar Website: arunmkumar.com Book: The Global Trade Paradigm Company: www.celesta.vc

There are four words that could rebuild trust on your team, surface the best thinking of the people around you, and lift a weight off your shoulders you've been carrying for years. Most CEOs will never say them, because saying them feels like the opposite of what the job demands. In this episode, we unpack why "I need your help" is the hardest sentence in leadership. Drawing on Adam Bryant's conversations with over a thousand CEOs, we look at how self-reliance becomes the very reflex that carries leaders to the top and then quietly starts working against them. Because the problems at the top are too big, too complex, and too buried in other people's heads to solve alone. We also get honest about what it costs a company when the CEO never asks. Teams stop volunteering their best thinking, problems get escalated too late, and the whole organisation bottlenecks around one person. Then we get practical, with three small ways to start asking this week. If you've ever caught yourself thinking "I'll just figure this out myself," this one's for you. _________________________________________________________________ BOOK PRE-ORDER 📘 My new book 'Reinvention at the Top: The Playbook for CEOs to Lead Under Pressure' (Wiley) is out in October. Pre-order your copy now: 👉 BOOK PRE-ORDER LINK _________________________________________________________________ FREE GUIDE Want to establish authority and lead with confidence from Day One as a CEO? Grab your FREE copy of '10 Foolproof Ways New CEOs Establish Authority From Day One': 👉 Download - https://bit.ly/10-fool-proof-ceo-strategies  _________________________________________________________________ WCL21 WCL21 is a private, curated community of CEOs running mid-market companies. Monthly roundtables, masterclasses, and confidential conversations that don't happen anywhere else. We're in the founding member phase — a few seats remain. 👉 Request your invitation: https://andreapetrone.com/wcl21  _________________________________________________________________ 1:1 COACHING Want to work with me directly? I coach a small number of CEOs and senior leaders each year through exactly the challenges in this show. 👉 Apply for 1:1 coaching: https://calendly.com/andreapetrone/strategy-call-30 _________________________________________________________________ COACHING APP Want to grow as a leader on the go? My Executive coaching app helps Directors, VPs and C-suite leaders build world-class leadership habits, guided by the Throughline™ framework: Identity, Message, Presence. 👉 See the app: https://studio.com/apps/andreapetrone/executive _________________________________________________________________ NEWSLETTER Join 183,000+ leaders who read my weekly insights on leading at the top: 👉  https://www.andreapetrone.com/newsletter/ _________________________________________________________________ MORE FROM ANDREA Follow our Host Andrea Petrone on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreapetrone/   Website: https://www.andreapetrone.com Instagram: instagram.com/andreapetrone_x Follow The World Class Leaders Show: Apple: https://shorturl.at/JZAmQ Spotify: https://shorturl.at/DSHUl LinkedIn:   https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-world-class-leaders-show/ Website: https://www.andreapetrone.com/podcast/

Most leaders are taught to push harder, move faster, and never give up. But what if that mindset is exactly what puts their health, judgment, relationships, and long-term performance at risk? In this episode, Andrea Petrone sits down with Sébastien Page, Head of Global Multi-Asset and Chief Investment Officer at T. Rowe Price, author of The Psychology of Leadership, and a leader overseeing more than $500 billion in assets under management. Sébastien shares the personal health crisis that forced him to rethink resilience, performance, and the real cost of ambition. This conversation explores what leaders can learn from psychology, sport, finance, and high-pressure decision-making — from feedback and strategic patience to goal-induced blindness, time management, ego, and the importance of meaning in work. _________________________________________________________________ BOOK PRE-ORDER 📘 My new book 'Reinvention at the Top: The Playbook for CEOs to Lead Under Pressure' (Wiley) is out in October. Pre-order your copy now: 👉 BOOK PRE-ORDER LINK _________________________________________________________________ FREE GUIDE Want to establish authority and lead with confidence from Day One as a CEO? Grab your FREE copy of '10 Foolproof Ways New CEOs Establish Authority From Day One': 👉 Download - https://bit.ly/10-fool-proof-ceo-strategies  _________________________________________________________________ WCL21 WCL21 is a private, curated community of CEOs running mid-market companies. Monthly roundtables, masterclasses, and confidential conversations that don't happen anywhere else. We're in the founding member phase — a few seats remain. 👉 Request your invitation: https://andreapetrone.com/wcl21  _________________________________________________________________ 1:1 COACHING Want to work with me directly? I coach a small number of CEOs and senior leaders each year through exactly the challenges in this show. 👉 Apply for 1:1 coaching: https://calendly.com/andreapetrone/strategy-call-30 _________________________________________________________________ COACHING APP Want to grow as a leader on the go? My Executive coaching app helps Directors, VPs and C-suite leaders build world-class leadership habits, guided by the Throughline™ framework: Identity, Message, Presence. 👉 See the app: https://studio.com/apps/andreapetrone/executive _________________________________________________________________ NEWSLETTER Join 183,000+ leaders who read my weekly insights on leading at the top: 👉  https://www.andreapetrone.com/newsletter/ _________________________________________________________________ MORE FROM ANDREA Follow our Host Andrea Petrone on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreapetrone/   Website: https://www.andreapetrone.com Instagram: instagram.com/andreapetrone_x Follow The World Class Leaders Show: Apple: https://shorturl.at/JZAmQ Spotify: https://shorturl.at/DSHUl LinkedIn:   https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-world-class-leaders-show/ Website: https://www.andreapetrone.com/podcast/ _________________________________________________________________ Follow Sébastien Page: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sebastien-page/ Book: The Psychology of Leadership Company: https://www.troweprice.com/ Substack: https://substack.com/@sebastienpage

In this episode of The World Class Leaders Show, I unpack the pattern I've observed across more than a decade of coaching leaders at the top and that Adam Bryant confirmed after interviewing over a thousand of them. The CEOs who perform under the most pressure almost always share the same origin. They were shaped by adversity. Not as a metaphor. As a lived reality that burned away hesitation and replaced it with a kind of drive that can't be taught. I walk through what that adversity actually looks like, why it creates such an unusual capacity for pressure, and the four categories that shape exceptional leaders including the one that dominates all the rest. But I also go into the part nobody warns you about. The same wiring that forged these leaders often becomes the thing that quietly limits them. The inability to ask for help. The instinct to carry everything alone. It feels like strength. It makes things harder. This episode is for CEOs, founders, and senior executives who want to understand where their drive actually comes from and whether the survival instinct that got them here is still working for them, or running the show without their permission. _________________________________________________________________ BOOK PRE-ORDER 📘 My new book 'Reinvention at the Top: The Playbook for CEOs to Lead Under Pressure' (Wiley) is out in October. Pre-order your copy now: 👉 BOOK PRE-ORDER LINK _________________________________________________________________ FREE GUIDE Want to establish authority and lead with confidence from Day One as a CEO? Grab your FREE copy of '10 Foolproof Ways New CEOs Establish Authority From Day One': 👉 Download - https://bit.ly/10-fool-proof-ceo-strategies  _________________________________________________________________ WCL21 WCL21 is a private, curated community of CEOs running mid-market companies. Monthly roundtables, masterclasses, and confidential conversations that don't happen anywhere else. We're in the founding member phase — a few seats remain. 👉 Request your invitation: https://andreapetrone.com/wcl21  _________________________________________________________________ 1:1 COACHING Want to work with me directly? I coach a small number of CEOs and senior leaders each year through exactly the challenges in this show. 👉 Apply for 1:1 coaching: https://calendly.com/andreapetrone/strategy-call-30 _________________________________________________________________ COACHING APP Want to grow as a leader on the go? My Executive coaching app helps Directors, VPs and C-suite leaders build world-class leadership habits, guided by the Throughline™ framework: Identity, Message, Presence. 👉 See the app: https://studio.com/apps/andreapetrone/executive _________________________________________________________________ NEWSLETTER Join 183,000+ leaders who read my weekly insights on leading at the top: 👉  https://www.andreapetrone.com/newsletter/ _________________________________________________________________ MORE FROM ANDREA Follow our Host Andrea Petrone on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreapetrone/   Website: https://www.andreapetrone.com Instagram: instagram.com/andreapetrone_x Follow The World Class Leaders Show: Apple: https://shorturl.at/JZAmQ Spotify: https://shorturl.at/DSHUl LinkedIn:   https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-world-class-leaders-show/ Website: https://www.andreapetrone.com/podcast/

Most CEOs are trying to figure out how to turn AI into real strategic value, not just productivity gains. In this episode, Andrea Petrone speaks with Charlene Li, a bestselling author and leadership advisor, about why AI transformation is not just a technological challenge, but also a leadership, cultural, strategic, and decision-making challenge. Charlene explains why the companies that win with AI will be the ones with clear direction, strong leadership conviction, and the courage to break through internal resistance. _________________________________________________________________ BOOK PRE-ORDER 📘 My new book 'Reinvention at the Top: The Playbook for CEOs to Lead Under Pressure' (Wiley) is out in October. Pre-order your copy now: 👉 BOOK PRE-ORDER LINK _________________________________________________________________ FREE GUIDE Want to establish authority and lead with confidence from Day One as a CEO? Grab your FREE copy of '10 Foolproof Ways New CEOs Establish Authority From Day One': 👉 Download - https://bit.ly/10-fool-proof-ceo-strategies  _________________________________________________________________ WCL21 WCL21 is a private, curated community of CEOs running mid-market companies. Monthly roundtables, masterclasses, and confidential conversations that don't happen anywhere else. We're in the founding member phase — a few seats remain. 👉 Request your invitation: https://andreapetrone.com/wcl21  _________________________________________________________________ 1:1 COACHING Want to work with me directly? I coach a small number of CEOs and senior leaders each year through exactly the challenges in this show. 👉 Apply for 1:1 coaching: https://calendly.com/andreapetrone/strategy-call-30 _________________________________________________________________ COACHING APP Want to grow as a leader on the go? My Executive coaching app helps Directors, VPs and C-suite leaders build world-class leadership habits, guided by the Throughline™ framework: Identity, Message, Presence. 👉 See the app: https://studio.com/apps/andreapetrone/executive _________________________________________________________________ NEWSLETTER Join 183,000+ leaders who read my weekly insights on leading at the top: 👉  https://www.andreapetrone.com/newsletter/ _________________________________________________________________ MORE FROM ANDREA Follow our Host Andrea Petrone on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreapetrone/   Website: https://www.andreapetrone.com Instagram: instagram.com/andreapetrone_x Follow The World Class Leaders Show: Apple: https://shorturl.at/JZAmQ Spotify: https://shorturl.at/DSHUl LinkedIn:   https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-world-class-leaders-show/ Website: https://www.andreapetrone.com/podcast/ _________________________________________________________________ Follow Our Guest: LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/charleneli Website: charleneli.com

In this solo episode of The World Class Leaders Show, I unpack the pattern I've seen destroy more leaders than any market shift ever has. It's not uncertainty that breaks CEOs. It's what uncertainty creates inside them. Under real pressure, most leaders revert to the version of themselves that used to win. I call this Achieved Identity and under pressure, it takes the wheel without asking permission. It feels like leadership. It makes things worse. I walk through the three things that break down every time a leader is under sustained pressure, why the sequence matters, and the exact steps one CEO took to lead through a company in crisis without losing himself in the process. This episode is for CEOs, founders, and senior executives who are carrying real pressure right now and need a clearer sequence for moving through it without losing themselves in the process. _________________________________________________________________ BOOK PRE-ORDER 📘 My new book 'Reinvention at the Top: The Playbook for CEOs to Lead Under Pressure' (Wiley) is out in October. Pre-order your copy now: 👉 BOOK PRE-ORDER LINK _________________________________________________________________ FREE GUIDE Want to establish authority and lead with confidence from Day One as a CEO? Grab your FREE copy of '10 Foolproof Ways New CEOs Establish Authority From Day One': 👉 Download - https://bit.ly/10-fool-proof-ceo-strategies  _________________________________________________________________ WCL21 WCL21 is a private, curated community of CEOs running mid-market companies. Monthly roundtables, masterclasses, and confidential conversations that don't happen anywhere else. We're in the founding member phase — a few seats remain. 👉 Request your invitation: https://andreapetrone.com/wcl21  _________________________________________________________________ 1:1 COACHING Want to work with me directly? I coach a small number of CEOs and senior leaders each year through exactly the challenges in this show. 👉 Apply for 1:1 coaching: https://calendly.com/andreapetrone/strategy-call-30 _________________________________________________________________ COACHING APP Want to grow as a leader on the go? My Executive coaching app helps Directors, VPs and C-suite leaders build world-class leadership habits, guided by the Throughline™ framework: Identity, Message, Presence. 👉 See the app: https://studio.com/apps/andreapetrone/executive _________________________________________________________________ NEWSLETTER Join 183,000+ leaders who read my weekly insights on leading at the top: 👉  https://www.andreapetrone.com/newsletter/ _________________________________________________________________ MORE FROM ANDREA Follow our Host Andrea Petrone on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreapetrone/   Website: https://www.andreapetrone.com Instagram: instagram.com/andreapetrone_x Follow The World Class Leaders Show: Apple: https://shorturl.at/JZAmQ Spotify: https://shorturl.at/DSHUl LinkedIn:   https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-world-class-leaders-show/ Website: https://www.andreapetrone.com/podcast/

AI is not going to destroy every software company — but it may expose the ones without a clear strategy. In this episode of The World Class Leaders Show, host Andrea Petrone is joined by Dr John Bates, CEO of Doxis, a former Cambridge computer science academic, and a technology leader who has built and led five successful companies. John shares what he has learned from leading through the dotcom crash, 9/11, the 2008 financial crisis, COVID, and today’s AI disruption. He explains why CEOs must stay focused on business value, sharpen their positioning, and avoid panicking when markets shift. The conversation explores AI, crisis leadership, competing with giants like Microsoft and Box, the burden of CEO transparency, and why every leader needs trusted people around them when pressure is high. John also reflects on why transformation can be more powerful than starting from scratch, why great CEOs must sometimes act as agitators, and what it really takes to lead with clarity when uncertainty never seems to end. _________________________________________________________________ BOOK PRE-ORDER 📘 My new book 'Reinvention at the Top: The Playbook for CEOs to Lead Under Pressure' (Wiley) is out in October. Pre-order your copy now: 👉 BOOK PRE-ORDER LINK _________________________________________________________________ FREE GUIDE Want to establish authority and lead with confidence from Day One as a CEO? Grab your FREE copy of '10 Foolproof Ways New CEOs Establish Authority From Day One': 👉 Download - https://bit.ly/10-fool-proof-ceo-strategies  _________________________________________________________________ WCL21 WCL21 is a private, curated community of CEOs running mid-market companies. Monthly roundtables, masterclasses, and confidential conversations that don't happen anywhere else. We're in the founding member phase — a few seats remain. 👉 Request your invitation: https://andreapetrone.com/wcl21  _________________________________________________________________ 1:1 COACHING Want to work with me directly? I coach a small number of CEOs and senior leaders each year through exactly the challenges in this show. 👉 Apply for 1:1 coaching: https://calendly.com/andreapetrone/strategy-call-30 _________________________________________________________________ COACHING APP Want to grow as a leader on the go? My Executive coaching app helps Directors, VPs and C-suite leaders build world-class leadership habits, guided by the Throughline™ framework: Identity, Message, Presence. 👉 See the app: https://studio.com/apps/andreapetrone/executive _________________________________________________________________ NEWSLETTER Join 183,000+ leaders who read my weekly insights on leading at the top: 👉  https://www.andreapetrone.com/newsletter/ _________________________________________________________________ MORE FROM ANDREA Follow our Host Andrea Petrone on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreapetrone/   Website: https://www.andreapetrone.com Instagram: instagram.com/andreapetrone_x Follow The World Class Leaders Show: Apple: https://shorturl.at/JZAmQ Spotify: https://shorturl.at/DSHUl LinkedIn:   https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-world-class-leaders-show/ Website: https://www.andreapetrone.com/podcast/ _________________________________________________________________ Follow Our Guest: LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/drjohnbates Learn more about Doxis: https://www.doxis.com  

In this solo episode of The World Class Leaders Show, I explore one of the most difficult leadership risks for CEOs to recognise: the moment when the operating mode that created success begins to limit the organisation. Using Tim Cook’s transition at Apple as a lens, I examine how strength, identity, and context can quietly fall out of alignment at the top. This episode is for CEOs, founders, successors, and senior executives who sense that what used to work is no longer creating the same momentum. I explain why leadership identity is not fixed, why operating modes have a shelf life, and why the most important work for a CEO is often not becoming more capable, but becoming more appropriate to the moment the business is actually in. _________________________________________________________________ BOOK PRE-ORDER 📘 My new book 'Reinvention at the Top: The Playbook for CEOs to Lead Under Pressure' (Wiley) is out in October. Pre-order your copy now: 👉 BOOK PRE-ORDER LINK _________________________________________________________________ FREE GUIDE Want to establish authority and lead with confidence from Day One as a CEO? Grab your FREE copy of '10 Foolproof Ways New CEOs Establish Authority From Day One': 👉 Download - https://bit.ly/10-fool-proof-ceo-strategies  _________________________________________________________________ WCL21 WCL21 is a private, curated community of CEOs running mid-market companies. Monthly roundtables, masterclasses, and confidential conversations that don't happen anywhere else. We're in the founding member phase — a few seats remain. 👉 Request your invitation: https://andreapetrone.com/wcl21  _________________________________________________________________ 1:1 COACHING Want to work with me directly? I coach a small number of CEOs and senior leaders each year through exactly the challenges in this show. 👉 Apply for 1:1 coaching: https://calendly.com/andreapetrone/strategy-call-30 _________________________________________________________________ COACHING APP Want to grow as a leader on the go? My Executive coaching app helps Directors, VPs and C-suite leaders build world-class leadership habits, guided by the Throughline™ framework: Identity, Message, Presence. 👉 See the app: https://studio.com/apps/andreapetrone/executive _________________________________________________________________ NEWSLETTER Join 183,000+ leaders who read my weekly insights on leading at the top: 👉  https://www.andreapetrone.com/newsletter/ _________________________________________________________________ MORE FROM ANDREA Follow our Host Andrea Petrone on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreapetrone/   Website: https://www.andreapetrone.com Instagram: instagram.com/andreapetrone_x   Follow The World Class Leaders Show: Apple: https://shorturl.at/JZAmQ Spotify: https://shorturl.at/DSHUl LinkedIn:   https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-world-class-leaders-show/ Website: https://www.andreapetrone.com/podcast/