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The Wrestle: Breaking Down Our Wrestle With God
by Turn Hearts
Have you ever felt like you were doing everything right—following the rules, checking all the boxes—yet somehow, you still felt… lost? Disconnected? Wondering if God was even listening? Or maybe you’ve spent years chasing success, believing that once you reached the top, you’d finally feel whole… only to realize the emptiness never really left. We’ve been there. And we know we’re not alone. Welcome to The Wrestle—a podcast about the struggle, the doubts, and the turning points that bring us closer to God. We’re here to have real conversations about faith—the kind that go beyond surface-level answers. We’ll talk about what’s truly available to us as followers of Christ… and how to overcome the very things that keep us from Him. Because The Wrestle isn’t a sign that you’re failing—it’s an invitation. An invitation to dig deeper, to ask the hard questions, and to find the peace and purpos
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Those Who Wrestle: Gracie's Story
Tatiana is joined by special guest, Gracie Riley, and they discuss Gracie's missionary experience, detailing her initial disappointment upon receiving a mission call to North Dakota instead of a more exotic location. Despite her struggles, she eventually found joy and purpose by focusing on her work and relying on the atonement. Gracie's story highlights the importance of effort and perspective, as she overcame her initial frustration by embracing her assignment and learning Spanish. Her journey taught her the value of love, service, and trust in divine guidance, lessons she continues to apply in her post-mission life.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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Treating Things Lightly
Tatiana is joined by Justin and they discuss the themes of vanity, unbelief, and the importance of understanding and accessing the Atonement of Jesus Christ. They emphasize the need to know the character of God and the Savior, and to recognize the infinite Atonement as a gift rather than a burden. They reference scriptures and personal experiences, including the use of the 12-step program and the book "He Did Deliver Me from Bondage" by Colleen Harrison. They also highlight the dangers of self-reliance and the importance of turning to Christ for true healing and growth.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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Vanity And Unbelief
Tatiana is joined by Justin and they discuss the concept of vanity and unbelief, emphasizing the importance of not treating sacred things lightly. Tatiana shares her personal experience of feeling disconnected from her faith despite adhering to religious practices. They reference Ezra Taft Benson's 1986 talk on D&C 84:54-55, highlighting the consequences of treating sacred things lightly. The conversation touches on the need for intentionality in accessing the atonement, the importance of gratitude, and the significance of daily scripture study. They also encourage you to reflect on your spiritual practices and the impact of vanity and unbelief on your faith.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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Insight On The Garment With Mark A. Mathews
Tatiana is joined by special guest, Mark A. Mathews, author of the book, Understanding Your Temple Experience, and they discuss the symbolism of the temple garment, linking it to the Atonement of Jesus Christ and the initiatory ordinance. Mark emphasizes the importance of the garment in maintaining a relationship with Jesus Christ and the blessings it confers. He highlights the significance of the washing, anointing, and clothing rituals, comparing them to a coronation. The discussion underscores the personal and spiritual benefits of wearing the temple garment.Listen In!Links to articles referenced in this episode:https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/liahona/2024/09/04-the-garment-of-the-holy-priesthood?lang=enghttps://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2024/04/47oaks?lang=engThanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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Relying Wholly
Tatiana is joined by Justin and they discuss the importance of relying wholly on Christ's merits for salvation. They emphasize that Christ's merits are the entire source of saving power, not our obedience. They share personal experiences with time management and a 12-step program, highlighting the need for humility and effort. They also touch on the necessity of adjusting faith when it is tested, using the Titan submersible disaster as an analogy. They also encourage you to trust in Christ's merits and to actively seek His help in your spiritual journey.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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The Merits Of Him Who Is Mighty To Save
Tatiana is joined by Justin and they discuss the challenges of time management, particularly Tatiana's struggles due to ADHD. Tatiana shares her approach to overcoming these issues by revisiting the "He Did Deliver Me from Bondage" book by Colleen Harrison, which helps her access the Atonement of Jesus Christ. They emphasize the importance of relying on Christ's merits, such as His sinless life, atonement, and resurrection, to manage time and other personal weaknesses. They also highlight the continuous need for faith and the atonement in daily life, encouraging you to recognize and utilize Christ's merits for personal growth and progression.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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Those Who Wrestle: Cody's Story
Tatiana is joined by special guest, Cody Smith, and they discuss his journey of faith, starting with his initial motivation to serve a mission to align with his future family's gospel foundation. He faced challenges, including feelings of inadequacy and health issues, leading to a decision to return home early. A pivotal moment came during a dental appointment with Tatiana, who encouraged him to serve out of love for the Lord, not for external expectations. Cody's return to the mission field was swift, and he experienced significant personal growth, including a deeper understanding of the atonement and his love for God. His testimony of Jesus Christ was profoundly impactful, exemplifying the transformative power of wrestling with grace.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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Those Who Wrestle: Hannah's Story
Tatiana is joined by special guest, Hannah Wheelwright, and they discuss Hannah's faith wrestle while parenting medically complex children. Hannah recounts her first child’s spina bifida and fetal surgery requiring relocation, then a second pregnancy marked by Down Syndrome, a heart defect, and NICU trauma. After months in the hospital and a discouraging specialist meeting, she felt angry, alone, and questioned God’s intentions and a transactional view of faith. Podcasts, supportive leaders, and honest prayer helped her accept wrestling as normal, shift perspective, advocate for her son’s care, and keep choosing Jesus amid ongoing trials.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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Learning Joy From Those Who Stay
Tatiana is joined by Justin and they share personal stories of their grandparents' faith and resilience, emphasizing that joy is not dependent on circumstances but on recognizing God's presence. Tatiana recounts her grandmother's sister's story of faith during a traumatic event, highlighting the importance of remembering God's help. Justin reflects on Nephi's prayer for strength rather than changing circumstances, illustrating the principle of turning to God. They encourage you to seek joy by remembering past spiritual experiences and learning from your ancestors' stories.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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Moving From Shame
Tatiana is joined by Justin and Krisha and they discuss the difference between shame and guilt, using Peter's story from the New Testament as an example. Peter's initial denial of Christ led to guilt, which allowed for transformation and redemption. They emphasize that shame isolates and attacks identity, while guilt offers the opportunity for change. They also highlight insights from Brene Brown and Elder Holland, noting that shame needs secrecy, silence, and judgment to grow. The conversation encourages owning mistakes, reconnecting through transparency, and believing in Christ's promise of redemption. Practical advice includes reframing thoughts and using the "reconnection rule" to heal in the light.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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Failure Doesn't Disqualify You
Tatiana is joined by Justin and Krisha and they discuss the story of Peter's denial of Christ and its lessons on guilt and shame. They explore how Peter's failure led to his greatest calling, emphasizing that Christ's response was not punishment but guidance. They highlight the difference between guilt (behavior) and shame (identity), and how self-reflection should focus on actions rather than personal worth. They also share a story of Jen Shannon, who overcame her struggles to start a nonprofit, illustrating the transformative power of faith and repentance. The discussion concludes with a reflection on the joy and fulfillment found in living according to gospel principles.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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What Wrestling Really Looks Like
Tatiana is joined by Justin and they discuss the importance of engaging with God through questions and doubts. They explore scriptural figures like Enoch, Moses, and Moroni, who wrestled with God and overcame their inadequacies through faith. Enoch was called to repent to his people despite his fears, while Moses questioned his abilities but was reassured by God. Moroni worried about his writing skills but was comforted by God's promise to make up for his weaknesses. They also highlight that wrestling with God leads to deeper spiritual understanding and trust.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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Do You Feel The Music?
Tatiana is joined by Justin and they discuss the importance of feeling over just knowing in spiritual practices, using the example of a Native American ring dancer who emotionally connected with his audience. They reflect on Wilford W. Andersen's 2015 talk about the "music of the gospel," emphasizing the need to feel the spiritual connection beyond mere adherence to rituals. They highlight signs of losing this connection, such as feeling numb or burnt out, and stress the importance of genuine engagement with God. The conversation concludes with practical advice on reconnecting with the spiritual "music" through deeper emotional and spiritual experiences.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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Welcome To Wrestling With Grace
Tatiana discusses the rebranding of the podcast from "The Wrestle Podcast" to "Wrestling with Grace," emphasizing its focus on individuals who feel spiritually exhausted despite their efforts to maintain their faith. She explains that the podcast aims to help you understand and access the enabling power of grace, which is not just about merits but about maintaining a relationship with Christ. She highlights scriptures like 2 Nephi 25:23 and Ether 12:27, explaining how grace provides strength and sustains souls, not just fixing circumstances. She also references teachings from modern prophets like Elder Uchtdorf and Elder Bednar, underscoring that grace is a continuous process, not a one-time event.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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The Freedom Of Honest Inventory
Tatiana is joined by Justin and Krisha, and they share this encore presentation of The Wrestle where they continue the conversation on spiritual growth by unpacking the power of honest self-inventory and repentance. They explore why real healing often requires sitting with discomfort, owning our part in pain, and resisting the urge to rush the process. Drawing from faith, scripture, and lived experience, they reframe repentance as a compassionate, ongoing invitation rather than a source of shame—one that allows Christ to heal what we’re willing to bring into the light and ultimately move us toward deeper peace and freedom.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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What To Do When God Doesn't Show Up The Way You Expect Him To
Tatiana is joined by Justin and Krisha, and they discuss the common experience of feeling disconnected from God despite adhering to religious practices. They emphasize that disappointment with God often stems from unmet expectations rather than a lack of faith. The conversation highlights the importance of expressing raw emotions to God, who already knows our thoughts and feelings. They share personal stories illustrating how God's presence can be felt in unexpected ways, even during times of grief and disappointment. They also encourage maintaining faith and seeking God's presence through prayer and the sacrament.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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Resolutions That Stick: Coupling With Christ
Tatiana is joined by Justin and they discuss the struggle and doubts in faith, emphasizing the importance of lasting change and willingness to turn to Christ. They reference Alma 24:19, where the Lamanites bury their weapons of war as a covenant with God, symbolizing internal change. They highlight the need to identify and address personal "weapons" or self-destructive behaviors, advocating for a deeper, Christ-centered approach to resolutions. They stress the importance of willingness, continuous prayer, and reliance on Christ for true transformation, encouraging you to couple your goals with divine guidance for sustainable change.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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Entering His Rest: Repentance As Awareness
Tatiana is joined by Justin and they discuss the concept of repentance, emphasizing it as a path to rest and peace rather than a form of punishment. They highlight the importance of recognizing total dependence on Christ, referencing scriptures in John 15 and Alma 32. The conversation also touches on the misconceptions around repentance and the atonement, urging you to reflect on your daily need for Christ and how His presence sustains you.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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Rest For The Weary Heart: Claiming Mercy Now
Tatiana is joined by Justin and Krisha, and they discuss the stress and expectations during the holiday season, urging you to focus on gratitude and turn to Christ. They highlight the transformative power of experiencing Jesus, using the example of Alma and his companions who, despite their past sins, found peace and became missionaries. The conversation underscores the immediate availability of mercy and rest in Christ, encouraging you to claim these gifts now rather than waiting for a future reward.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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You’re Not Meant To Do Life Alone
Tatiana is joined by Justin and Krisha, and they discuss the concept of faith and the atonement of Jesus Christ, emphasizing that true faith involves trusting in God's help and not trying to do life alone. They highlight the importance of repentance, not as punishment but as a path to enabling power through Christ's atonement. They share personal experiences and scriptural references, such as Mosiah 3:17, to illustrate how God's support is essential for overcoming life's challenges. The episode also touches on the Book of Mormon challenge, the role of the Holy Ghost, and the need for daily repentance and covenants to access the atonement's benefits, including peace and strength in difficult times.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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Those Who Wrestle: Bryce's Story
Tatiana is joined by special guest, Bryce Prescott, and they discuss Bryce's spiritual journey, detailing his upbringing in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, his mission in Brazil, and his subsequent divorce and excommunication. He recounted his rebaptism and the subsequent period of spiritual growth, emphasizing the importance of personal relationship with God over religious adherence. He discussed his more recent experiences with Impact Church in Scottsdale and the impact of Charlie Kirk's memorial on his faith. They also highlight the significance of honesty, integrity, and personal responsibility in spirituality, and the importance of finding joy and humor in faith. Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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Yielding Vs. Avoiding
Tatiana is joined by Justin and they discuss the sweetness of God's love, comparing it to cherished holiday traditions like Tatiana's husband's pecan logs. They highlight the anticipation and preparation for Christ's birth, referencing biblical and scriptural references. They touch on the importance of yielding to God's invitations, using the analogy of acquiring a taste for spiritual experiences. They also challenge you read the Book of Mormon in 30 days and experience Jesus more profoundly this Christmas season.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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Boundaries: Love Vs. Resentment
Tatiana is joined by Justin and they discuss the importance of setting boundaries, especially during the holiday season, while maintaining love and respect for others. They emphasize that boundaries are essential for personal spiritual peace and growth, citing scriptures like Mosiah 4:27 and examples from Christ's life. They highlight that boundaries are not punishments but safeguards for healthy connections and genuine love. They also mention the 30-day Book of Mormon challenge and encourage you to sign up on their website for a schedule to enhance your spiritual experience during the holidays.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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30-Day Book Of Mormon Challenge With Riley Barker
Tatiana is joined by special guest Riley Barker and they discuss their previous experiences and upcoming anticipation of reading through the entire Book of Mormon during the month of December. They express the challenges of condensing their reading to one calendar month as well as the blessings they have experienced through their focus and consistency in daily reading. Riley found the challenge rewarding, noting increased kindness, better understanding of others, and more natural conversations about Christ. They also reflect upon the parrallel between reading about Christ's appearance in the Americas in the third book of Nephi matching up in their reading schedule with the few days leading up to Christmas Day. Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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God's Word Vs. Proof
Tatiana is joined by Justin and they discuss the challenges of faith, emphasizing the importance of trusting God's word without seeking proof. They explore the concept of agency, highlighting that while it can be oppressive, it also offers freedom. Tatiana shares her journey of understanding God's word, which led to a shift in perspective and a deeper trust in God's plan. They discuss the significance of seeking truth in the scriptures and how understanding God's character can transform your faith. The conversation concludes with encouragement to experiment with faith and seek divine guidance, ultimately leading to a fulfilling relationship with God.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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Joy Vs. Circumstances
Tatiana is joined by Justin and they discuss the theme of joy, emphasizing that it is found through experiencing Jesus. They reflect on how recent interviews and personal experiences highlight the importance of turning to Christ for peace and joy. They discuss the challenges of maintaining an eternal perspective during hard times and the significance of the atonement in finding joy. They also encourage you to seek God's love and guidance, assuring that joy is attainable through faith and turning to Christ.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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Those Who Wrestle: Suzanne’s Story
Tatiana is joined by special guest, Suzanne Rentmiester, and they discuss Suzanne's journey of faith and healing. Suzanne shares her struggles with generational trauma, negative self-talk, and the impact of her verbally abusive mother. Suzanne's turning point came in 2019 when she began the ARP program and the "He Did Deliver Me from Bondage" book. Through daily scripture study, journaling, and confession, she learned to reconcile with others and embrace the atonement's process of repentance and forgiveness. Suzanne emphasizes the importance of facing your personal storms and trusting in God's healing process, which transformed her from a victim to a thriver.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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Those Who Wrestle: Bekah’s Story
Tatiana is joined by special guest, Bekah Sien, and they discuss Bekah's journey through a difficult marriage and the impact of the 12-step program. Becca describes her initial resistance to seeking help and how she eventually found solace and strength through the program. She emphasizes the importance of surrender and the enabling power of the Atonement. Bekah also highlights the transformative effect of personal revelation and the joy found in recognizing God's presence in daily life.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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Desires Vs. Agency
Tatiana is joined by Justin and Krisha, and they discuss the biblical story of Alma and Amulek, emphasizing the importance of heeding God's calls. The conversation highlights the struggle between comfort and spiritual growth, using examples like Amulek and Enos. They reflect on personal experiences of faith, the challenges of trusting God's timing, and the need to align desires with divine guidance. The episode concludes with a reminder of the eternal nature of testimony and the continuous refinement of faith.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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Boldly Before The Throne
Tatiana is joined by Justin and they discuss the wrestle with faith and the importance of overcoming personal obstacles. Tatiana shares a personal story about her high school swimming experience, highlighting how pride led her to miss opportunities for joy. They transition to discussing step six in the book "He To Deliver Me From Bondage" by Colleen Harrison, emphasizing the need to let desire work in you and yield to Christ's sanctification. They reference scriptures from First and Second Nephi, stressing the importance of asking questions and seeking divine guidance. The conversation concludes with a quote from President Nelson, encouraging you to come unto Christ for healing and guidance.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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From Belief To Trust
Tatiana is joined by Justin and Krisha, and they discuss the concept of perfectionism and the need to admit weaknesses. They reference the book "Deliver Me from Bondage" by Colleen Harrison, which encourages honesty and vulnerability in confession. The conversation underscores the transformative power of grace, the importance of trusting in God, and the mutual support that comes from sharing personal trials and experiences. Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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Give All Sins To Know Him
Tatiana is joined by Justin and they discuss being human and having weaknesses by acknowledging that we are merely mortal. They emphasize the importance of acknowledging human weaknesses and sharing them with trusted individuals like therapists or priesthood leaders for spiritual growth. They reference Colleen Harrison's book "He to Deliver Me from Bondage" and highlight the need for sincere repentance. The conversation includes personal anecdotes and scriptural references, such as Alma 22:18, to illustrate the process of overcoming sins and drawing closer to God. They stress the significance of complete honesty and the transformative power of the atonement.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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Traditions Of The Fathers
Tatiana is joined by Justin and they discuss the concept of "Woe unto the uncircumcised of heart" from Colleen Harris's book "He Did Deliver Me from Bondage." They emphasize the importance of a written inventory to examine and address destructive behaviors inherited from past generations. They share personal anecdotes and examples, such as the story of the roast from "The Four Agreements," to illustrate how traditions and experiences shape our actions. They stress the need for self-awareness, curiosity, and grace in understanding and changing these behaviors. The conversation concludes with the promise of healing and joy through honest introspection and divine guidance.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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Handwriting Is God's Speed
Tatiana is joined by Justin and Krisha, and they discuss the journey of faith and the principles of the book "He To Deliver Me From Bondage" by Colleen Harrison, which follows a 12-step program similar to AA. They share personal experiences with faith, repentance, and the importance of writing by hand in the process. They emphasize the significance of honesty and the role of the Spirit of Christ in guiding and healing. They also highlight the transformative power of writing down thoughts and feelings, and the importance of recognizing and owning your truth to find peace and purpose in faith.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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Those Who Wrestle: Lowell's Story
Tatiana is joined by special guest, Lowell Beck, and they discuss his lifelong wrestle with faith, particularly after his father's mental decline and eventual death despite priesthood blessings promising healing. Lowell reflects on his faith journey, emphasizing the importance of holding onto what is known about God and trusting in His plan. He finds solace in scriptures and teachings, particularly Elder Holland's 2020 conference talk, which helped him reconcile his father's suffering. They advise others to persist in faith, as understanding and peace will come in time.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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Start The Process
Tatiana is joined by Justin and Krisha, and they discuss the struggles and doubts in faith, emphasizing the importance of self-reflection and emotional maturity. They explore the concept of step four in the 12-step process, focusing on taking an honest inventory of personal actions and their impact. They highlight the discomfort of confronting past mistakes but stress the importance of owning your role in events that transpire. The conversation also touches on the role of repentance as a panacea for personal growth and the need for continuous self-improvement to draw closer to Christ.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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Trusting The Heart Surgeon
Tatiana is joined by Justin and Krisha, and they discuss more of the principles of King Benjamin's promise, emphasizing the importance of being friends with Christ and seeking His atonement. They delve into step four of the process, which involves making a fearless written inventory of one's past to recognize personal weaknesses and sins. The conversation highlights the significance of repentance, the analogy of heart surgery, and the need to trust Christ as the ultimate healer, urging you to confront your mistakes and denials to find true peace and purpose.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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The Promises, Part 2
Tatiana is joined by Justin, and they continue their discussion on divine promises as part of the struggle to grow in faith. They explore the concept of wrestling with your faith as a sign of deeper commitment and a call to ask hard questions. Tatiana shares a personal story about kayaking with a young girl with social disabilities, emphasizing the importance of teamwork and grace. They discuss certain promises of the gospel, such as retaining a remission of sins, growing in knowledge, and not injuring others. They also highlight the need for parents to teach and discipline their children with love and understanding, drawing parallels to Christ's parenting style.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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The Promises, Part 1
Tatiana is joined by Justin, and they discuss many of the promises that come from living the gospel. They emphasize that the wrestle is an invitation to dig deeper and ask hard questions. The conversation highlights internal changes that come from seeking Christ, such as always rejoicing and retaining a remission of sins. They share personal stories, including Tatiana's experience with a young man from South America who improved his life through the gospel. The discussion underscores the importance of gratitude, praise, and the transformative power of internal changes in your relationship with God and others.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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Comprehension Vs. Ignorance
Tatiana is joined by Justin and Krisha, and they discuss the struggle and doubts in faith, emphasizing the importance of deep, authentic conversations about God. They continue to explore King Benjamin's final sermon, focusing on the need to believe in Christ's wisdom and power, and the necessity of repentance. They highlight the significance of asking sincere questions and being open to change, drawing parallels King Lamoni and Nephi. The conversation underscores the transformative power of forgiveness and the importance of personal revelation and repentance in achieving a deeper connection with God.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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Consistency Vs. Constancy
Tatiana is joined by Justin and Krisha, and they discuss the concept of remembering one's own nothingness and God's goodness, referencing scriptures and personal experiences. They highlight the necessity of daily prayer, repentance, and the sacrament for spiritual sustenance. The conversation also touches on the distinction between consistency and constancy, using examples from personal and professional life to illustrate the gradual, lifelong process of spiritual growth and the importance of God's mercy and willingness to change.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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Those Who Wrestle: Tiffany's Story
Tatiana is joined by Tiffany Mansfeld, and they discuss their experiences with spiritual wrestling and faith. Tiffany shares her journey, growing up in a devout family, her parents' divorce, and her in-laws' decision to leave the church, which led her to question her faith. She describes her five-year struggle with these questions, her eventual decision to leave the church, and her later rebaptism. Tiffany emphasizes the importance of seeking spiritual experiences, asking for help, and maintaining gratitude. She also highlights the value of the 12-step program in her healing process and the significance of Jesus' presence in her life.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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Benjamin's Promises, Part 3
Tatiana is joined by Justin and they finalize their 3-part discussion on the topic of Benjamin's promises, emphasizing the importance of trusting Jesus Christ and applying His atonement. They highlight the need to recognize and trust Christ, let go of guilt and resentment, and seek His presence daily. The conversation also touches on the idea that all truth and wisdom come from Christ, and that true self-mastery is achieved by turning ourselves over to Him. They also stress the importance of seeking Christ's power to garnish our thoughts and guide our actions, ultimately leading to a deeper relationship with Him.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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Benjamin's Promises, Part 2
Tatiana is joined by Justin and they continue their discussion of Benjamin's promises, highlighting spiritual dyslexia, where individuals misinterpret commandments, leading to frustration and anxiety. They reference King Benjamin's sermon in Mosiah 4:14, emphasizing that the scripture is a promise, not a commandment, and requires faith in Jesus Christ. They share personal anecdotes, including Tatiana's experience with repotting plants to illustrate the importance of addressing spiritual roots. They also encourage you to seek and trust Jesus Christ, recognizing that true spiritual growth comes from a deep, personal relationship with Him.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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Benjamin's Promises, Part 1
Tatiana is joined by Justin and they discuss the concept of spiritual dyslexia, where individuals focus on actions rather than the process of coming unto Christ. They reference Colleen Harrison's work, explaining that many Latter-Day Saints misunderstand scriptures like Moroni 10:32, which emphasizes coming unto Christ before denying ungodliness. They highlight King Benjamin's teachings in the Book of Mormon, where repentance leads to joy and peace. They stress the importance of seeking Christ first, as promises and blessings follow naturally. They also encourage you to pray and seek Christ, emphasizing that God's help is essential for spiritual growth.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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Assumptions Vs. Truth
Tatiana is joined by Justin and Krisha, and they discuss their experiences at a priesthood camp, emphasizing the spiritual growth and camaraderie among young boys. They reflect on the true character of Christ and how His attributes manifest in their lives. Tatiana shares her preparation for an adult presentation at the camp, highlighting the miracles of Christ. Justin and Krisha recount personal stories where they felt Christ's presence, illustrating how recognizing His attributes can deepen faith. They all underscore the importance of recognizing and trusting in God's presence in everyday life.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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Redemption Vs. Despair, Part 2
Tatiana is joined by Justin and Krisha, and they continue their discussion the concept of redemption versus despair, sharing personal experiences of feeling redeemed and the continuous nature of this process. They highlight the importance of hope, gratitude, and turning to God for support. The conversation also touches on the challenges of dealing with bottled-up emotions and the need for trust in God's presence and strength, using metaphors like a storm and a fortified truck to illustrate the atonement's role in anchoring individuals during difficult times.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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Redemption Vs. Despair, Part 1
Tatiana is joined by Justin and Krisha, and they discuss the themes of redemption versus despair, highlighting personal experiences with despair, such as postpartum depression and workplace stress. They stress that despair arises from inaction on hope and faith, urging you to take steps towards redemption. They also touch on the immediate goodness of God, the need to let go and trust Him, and the continuous process of spiritual growth and healing.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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Yours Vs. Mine
Tatiana is joined by Justin and they discuss the concept of experiencing Jesus as a personal Savior. They explore the idea that struggling with faith and personal issues can lead to a deeper connection with Jesus. Tatiana shares her journey with disordered eating and how it led to a spiritual awakening. Justin recounts a business experience where he received divine inspiration to reorganize his team, emphasizing the importance of acting quickly on spiritual promptings. They encourage you to pray, journal, and seek daily experiences with Jesus, highlighting that God's presence is always with you, even in difficult times.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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Weapons Of War
Tatiana is joined by Justin and they discuss a YouTube video analogy to illustrate how people often resist God's solutions to their problems, likening it to a woman with a nail in her forehead who refuses to acknowledge the obvious cause of her pain. They emphasize the importance of recognizing and addressing these "weapons," which can be destructive behaviors or unresolved issues. They also touches on the significance of agency and the need to repurpose harmful actions into constructive ones, drawing parallels from the Book of Mormon's Alma 24, where the Lamanites symbolically buried their weapons to symbolize their commitment to God.Listen In!Thanks for listening to this episode of The Wrestle!
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Have you ever felt like you were doing everything right—following the rules, checking all the boxes—yet somehow, you still felt… lost? Disconnected? Wondering if God was even listening? Or maybe you’ve spent years chasing success, believing that once you reached the top, you’d finally feel whole… only to realize the emptiness never really left. We’ve been there. And we know we’re not alone. Welcome to The Wrestle—a podcast about the struggle, the doubts, and the turning points that bring us closer to God. We’re here to have real conversations about faith—the kind that go beyond surface-level answers. We’ll talk about what’s truly available to us as followers of Christ… and how to overcome the very things that keep us from Him. Because The Wrestle isn’t a sign that you’re failing—it’s an invitation. An invitation to dig deeper, to ask the hard questions, and to find the peace and purpos
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