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The ZeroIndent Review

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    Enemies of Art - On The Beach (1957) Part 2

    When it all comes down we must endure the worst type of person. A vapid, shallow, military man. This week we discuss Neil Shute's On The Beach and how it relates to gender politics and the economics of the time. Support Us Merch & Books: underink.press The Publication: zeroindent.com Bonus episodes: patreon.com/zeroindent   Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00:00 - Neil Shute's opus 00:16:16 - Faith & Gender 00:45:45 - Dwight: art enemy 01:07:40 - Brandy taste test 01:10:22 - Dwight & Moira 01:47:20 - Chicken Tangent 01:54:10 - Last ever grand prix

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    Original Australian Apocalypse - On The Beach (1957) Part 1

    Melbourne, Australia: nuclear winter approaches as the equatorial winds shift each year. You have twelve months left on the outside, more likely eight, and six on the inside. What will you do with the time you have left? This week we discuss the introductory section of Neil Shute's confronting apocalypse novel set in Patrick and David's backyard. Support Us Merch & Books: underink.press The Publication: zeroindent.com Bonus episodes: patreon.com/zeroindent   Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00:00 - High level thoughts 00:23:01 - The Submarine & Dwight 00:43:44 - Australian vs. American 01:15:20 - Domino Effect "American Empire" 01:31:42 - Australian Summer 01:48:40 - Apocalypse Inception 01:59:30 - Ultimate solution 02:05:50 - Support us @ patreon.com/zeroindent  

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    It's a weapon! - The Book of Eli (2009)

    The book itself you recall - the sentiment, the heft of it. And if you really concentrate, you can remember some of the words, but never complete sections. You wonder idly if there's a copy left in the wold now that it has emptied. You imagine probably in the basement of a church or tucked into the pocket behind a seat in an abandoned car. This week we talk through Denzel Washington's action flick, The Book of Eli Support Us Merch & Books: underink.press The Publication: zeroindent.com Bonus episodes: patreon.com/zeroindent   Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00:00 - It begins! 00:02:30 - Junk food film 00:15:30 - Can Eli see? 00:27:30 - Baddest motherf-er 00:53:30 - Solara 01:14:55 - Final showdown 01:34:45 - Reciting the bible 01:46:15 - Bizarre Ending 01:58:00 - Support us @ patreon.com/zeroindent

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    We only read this book once - The Road (2006) Part 3

    Apocalypse and endings. Literature. Meaning. It all blows away on the sands of a dead shore. A counterspectacle of what was, alighting some part of how it came to be, yes, and some part of what it could have been. We are ruinous creatures, aren't we? This week: the end of Cormac McCarthy's legendary novel The Road and it's bleak. Shocker. Support Us Merch & Books: underink.press The Publication: zeroindent.com Bonus episodes: patreon.com/zeroindent   Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00:00 - Intro 00:03:30 - We don't like the book? 00:16:45 - Serpents & Metaphors 00:27:25 - The meaning of art 00:48:15 - The fading world 00:57:05 - Oceans 01:09:40 - Oncoming demise 01:29:07 - Collapsing of meaning 01:42:12 - Trains and time 01:51:50 - The man's end 02:09:49 - Support us at patreon.com/zeroindent

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    Old Men and Petty Gods - The Road (2006) Part 2

    Rain spoils against your back. You can feel the damp on your neck and inside your rotting shoes. The ropes binding your pack chafe, and you wonder, idly, if you were always meant for this. You think perhaps you were. That in some other heaven where things did not go wrong that you were the omen that brought everything down. Freezing to death. A reprieve in a mysterious bunker. The team continues through the heart of McCarthy's The Road. Support Us Merch & Books: underink.press The Publication: zeroindent.com Bonus episodes: patreon.com/zeroindent   Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00:00 - it begins! 00:03:03 - hot or cold? 00:11:32 - Farmhouse blues 00:33:30 - Water? Acquifers? 00:44:46 - The good guys 01:03:40 - The pre-bunker 01:17:30 - The Bunker Problem(s) 01:58:05 - Old men & gods 02:20:14 - The end 02:30:00 - Support us at patreon.com/zeroindent

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    The “Perfect” Modern Novel - The Road (2006) Part 1

    Fall literature spoils on the bloated wooden boards. You recognise the shape of names--fiction you once knew and loved--now reduced to damp, cloggy promises that threaten your balance. The world has emptied out, yet these recollections stick to the sky, unbidden. This week the gang cracks into Cormac McCarthy's seminal classic, The Road (2006) and try to unpick the behemoth that is the novel. Support Us Merch & Books: underink.press The Publication: zeroindent.com Bonus episodes: patreon.com/zeroindent   Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00:00 - It begins 00:03:05 - Peak Modern Novelist 00:11:20 - How to read The Road 00:22:15 - To zombie or not to zombie 00:34:00 - Dialogue formatting 00:51:30 - A day to model all days 00:59:23 - Phantom worlds 01:07:05 - Things come apart 01:14:12 - Mandel's opposition 01:27:04 - Freezing, starving, zombie? 01:42:46 - The Wallet (and time) 01:48:15 - David gets recognised 01:51:55 - Reflections on endings 02:06:40 - The wife 02:27:54 - The action scene 02:41:55 - God (just a small topic) 02:52:15 - The Boy and The Dog 03:00:00 - All is gone to grey 03:10:51 - Mad Max Warband (content warning) 03:16:18 - Content Warning: Pedophilia & Rape 03:25:30 - J.M. Thesis 03:31:15 - Support us at patreon.com/zeroindent Cormac McCarthy's Secret (Teenage) Muse: Editor Reviews by Siobhan Brier Aguilar https://youtu.be/Ctgp2gyyON0  

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    David's 2025 Media Tier List - Free Patreon Preview

    Click here to listen to the full episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/zeroindent-bonus-145965273 Support Us Merch & Books: underink.press The Publication: zeroindent.com Bonus episodes: patreon.com/zeroindent   Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary.

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    HOW DARE YOU - Silent Night (2021)

    You iron the shirt one more time, just in case. Your partner watches you from the corner of their eye, pretending to be distracted by the news. You've had it on for a week straight now, muted with the subtitles on. Barely able to leave the couch save for the essentials. You keep waiting for the moment it turns out to be a mistake. Of course it's a mistake. And then very suddenly it's the *the* night, and not until you sit in the car with the cardboard containing your pill in the breast pocket of your jacket that it becomes real. The gang see out the year with the only Christmas Apocalypse film David could find, Silent Night, a blistering black comedy. Support Us Merch & Books: underink.press The Publication: zeroindent.com Bonus episodes: patreon.com/zeroindent   Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00:00 - it begins! 00:03:15 - High level thoughts 00:21:19 - What's it about 00:34:00 - Cursed Dinner/Climate 00:44:15 - Sandra: The WORST 01:00:15 - Last night on Earth 01:19:25 - Art's chicken adventure 01:40:20 - Everyone dies at the end 01:53:00 - Keira Knightley Minute 02:00:00 - Support us @ patreon.com/zeroindent

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    No Star Burns Forever - Sea of Tranquility (2022) Part 2

    The steady trickle of the river reminds you of home, but as you blink, you find yourself not on the abandoned streets of Night City, rather, the glittering white pillars and spires of Colony One surround you. There can be such oppression in order, can't there? This week the cast analyses Emily St John Mandel's conclusion to a trilogy of novels to try and figure out what exactly is going on. Support Us Merch & Books: underink.press The Publication: zeroindent.com Bonus episodes: patreon.com/zeroindent   Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00:00 - it begins! 00:03:50 - High concept vs. theme 00:29:42 - Gasperry's destiny 00:55:05 - Maximal vs. minimal novel 01:05:37 - Olive's cursed lockdown 01:14:50 - Apocalyptic realism 01:24:50 - The injuies we sustain 01:38:38 - File corruption 02:22:00 - Mandel house style 02:31:30 - Gasperry's retirement 02:45:24 - Ending a trilogy 02:54:00 - Support us at patreon.com/zeroindent

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    No Good Chickens - Sea of Tranquility (2022) Part 1

    Caiette sleeps beyond the treeline. Here in the forest you are truly alone. Your loafers perch on the lip where the sand meets the sucking mud. Here, so far from the world, there may as well not be a world at all. The horizon and the trees are the only real thing. This week the team try to peel back the layers of Emily St John Mandel's perplexing time travel novel Sea of Tranquility. Support Us Merch & Books: underink.press The Publication: zeroindent.com Bonus episodes: patreon.com/zeroindent   Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00:00 - The Sci Fi Twist 00:16:40 - Evolution of Mandel's Structure 00:27:45 - Edwin The "Loser" 00:48:15 - Back to Caiette 01:03:30 - To sequel or not to sequel 01:13:38 - Mirella 01:39:00 - Last Book Tour On Earth 02:36:05 - Gasperry In The Future

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    The Counterlife - The Glass Hotel (2020) Part 2

    The collapse is an apocalypse first in your mind, then when you learn that it's all over, a sheer, cosmic relief. At least now the lies can stop, and this ugly thing can end at last. David, Pat and  @DarthdYT  close out their discussion of Emily St John Mandel's sleep hit and try to figure out what the book is doing. Support Us Merch & Books: underink.press The Publication: zeroindent.com Bonus episodes: patreon.com/zeroindent   Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00:00 - Relationships! 00:07:30 - Book Review 00:13:00 - David's multi-country joke 00:20:20 - Glass Hotel Part 2 Summary 00:27:15 - Jonathan In Prison 00:58:50 - Vincent on the Neptune 01:11:12 - Mirella 01:24:00 - Ghosts??? 01:34:58 - The Collapse 02:16:25 - Life After Collapse 02:33:50 - Leon Prevant (ShadowCountry) 02:41:00 - Vincent In The Ocean 02:54:15 - Suppot us at patreon.com/zeroindent

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    Kingdom of Money - The Glass Hotel (2020) Part 1

    The novel prickles in your grasp. The sweat on your fingertips make turning the pages easier, but the sense of an axe about to fall remains. You glance up from the words: the gardener is attending the rhododendrons by the edge of the terrace, and once again you feel a flutter of anticipation. David, Pat and Darth dip their toes into the heady, brilliant waters of Emily St John Mandel's brilliant novel. Support Us Merch & Books: underink.press The Publication: zeroindent.com Bonus episodes: patreon.com/zeroindent   Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00:00 - It begins! 00:02:00 - Initial Thoughts 00:10:03 - Future Nostalgia 00:20:55 - What's The Story 00:29:39 - Paul: The Doomed Punker 00:48:19 - The Titular Hotel 01:04:45 - Water & Glass & Time 01:18:00 - Projected Capital Realism 01:27:57 - Logistics (invisible worlds) 01:35:04 - Vincent & Jonathan 01:44:50 - Darth nitpick corner 01:56:20 - The Kingdom of Money 02:17:36 - Olivia 02:38:18 - St John Mandel & Sex 02:52:11 - Support us at patreon.com/zeroindent

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    You Wasted It - The Last of Us Season 2 (2023) Ep6-7

    Rain patterns across the bitumen. Thunder peels over the horizon, white-blue flashes followed by calamity that vibrates the walls themselves. The smell of fresh rain on soil fills the empty city as the roads become spillways and the sewers overflow. This week David and Darth are joined by Danielle from  ⁨@levelstoryplays⁩  and Alex to close out their discussion of what has turned out to be a fairly bad season of television. Support Us Merch & Books: underink.press The Publication: zeroindent.com Bonus episodes: patreon.com/zeroindent   Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00:00 - It begins! 00:02:45 - High Level Thoughts (Show Bad) 00:12:27 - Second Screen Viewing 00:20:00 - Last of Us S02E06 Summary 00:25:00 - Joel's Masculinity 00:35:35 - Ellie's 15th Birthday 00:45:55 - Structural Issues 00:56:40 - Perspective Matters 01:21:30 - "You Promised" 01:48:47 - The Last of Us S02E07 Summary 01:50:59 - The Empathy Trick 02:13:00 - Ellie's Final Kill(s) 02:28:20 - Ending Season 2

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    Montages of Grief - The Last of Us Season 2 (2023) Ep3-5

    A steep wind blows across the golden field of swaying grass. Sunsets, painful in auburn beauty that only reminds you of what has gone from the wold. You think again of violence. That freedom born from the collapse: violence, and vengeance. This week David, Alex and  @DarthdYT  are backed up by Danielle from  @levelstoryplays  to unpack the strangest adaptation choices so far. Follow Danielle on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/levelstory.bsky.social Support Us Merch & Books: underink.press The Publication: zeroindent.com Bonus episodes: patreon.com/zeroindent   Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00:00 - it begins! 00:02:00 - pacing, high level thoughts 00:12:25 - Last of Us S02E03 Summary 00:17:00 - Teenage energy 00:25:00 - Instrumentalisated apocalypse 00:36:12 - Lost in montage 00:49:30 - Last of Us S02E04 Summary 00:51:25 - Prenancy and agency 00:55:30 - Ellie's characterisation 01:00:40 - The show's thesis 01:18:22 - Ellie and Dina's coupling 01:33:11 - Cat talk 01:39:08 - Last of Us S02E05 Summary 01:45:54 - Ellie's bad tactics 01:53:00 - Smart-ish people 01:58:34 - Hospital infection problem 02:09:30 - Trusting the reader 02:15:25 - David crashes out 2025 edition 02:24:18 - Production discussion 02:32:00 - Support us at patreon.com/zeroident

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    Terrified of You - The Last of Us Season 2 (2023) Ep1-2

    Bitter snow crashes against the window of your small room in Jackson. You shiver as you try not to think of the cordyceps that ravaged your patrol. Thank goodness you made it away in time before the creatures could pursue you. This week David, Alex and  @DarthdYT  are joined by returning guest Danielle from  @levelstoryplays  to talk about The Last of Us Season 2's opening salvo. Massive spoilers for this one folks. Follow Danielle on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/levelstory.bsky.social Support Us Merch & Books: underink.press The Publication: zeroindent.com Bonus episodes: patreon.com/zeroindent   Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00:00 - opening bit: out running zombies 00:02:40 - patreron update 00:03:50 - Anatomy of a sequel 00:21:20 - Last of Us S2E01 Summary 00:24:00 - Game Abby vs. Show Abby 00:35:57 - Ellie Five Years Later 00:48:35 - Abby's motivation 00:56:32 - Joel's cursed psyche 01:02:20 - Dina 01:11:50 - Genre and zombies 01:16:10 - Last of Us vs. Station Eleven 01:23:10 - NYE party and kiss 01:33:00 - The fungus evolves 01:37:26 - Eric's guest spot 01:40:30 - Last of Us S2E02 Summary 01:43:50 - Episode structure (tragedy, not-working) 01:53:00 - Logistically, thematically confused murder 02:13:48 - Gameplay mediation vs. TV 02:19:50 - Violence and complicity 02:29:30 - What *is* the show 02:34:25 - Resolution of narrative 02:37:00 - Outro - support us at patreon.com/zeroindent  

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    An Impossible Task - Station Eleven (2021) Ep9-10

    You stare, dumbfounded, as a familiar silhouette crests the horizon. It can't be, can it? They left you so long ago. Yet they are walking toward you, smiling. You are only aware of your tears as you pull them close as you can, as if in hugging you might prevent them from leaving again. The unbroken wheel turns ever onward. David and Patrick are joined by  @DarthdYT  to deal with the most INSANE Jeevan episode before wrapping up Station Eleven. Support Us Merch & Books: underink.press The Publication: zeroindent.com Bonus episodes: patreon.com/zeroindent   Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00:00 - it begins! 00:02:49 - the show is good! 00:06:31 - Station Eleven Episode 9's Insane Summary 00:09:00 - Jeevan vs. Kirsten 00:23:30 - Kirsten's irresponsibility 00:32:15 - The wrong life (Darth's theory time) 00:41:55 - Department store: the pregnant women of it all 01:01:15 - Fate and survival and love 01:17:50 - House MD ruined canes 01:28:00 - Traumatic childhood(s) 01:38:00 - "Bottle Episodes" 01:42:25 - Emotion/needle drops 01:45:45 - Station Eleven denouement 01:51:30 - Station Eleven episode 10 summary 01:53:30 - Miranda's second death (and life) 02:13:00 - Arthur Leander 02:20:30 - The place of water 02:23:24 - Pre-pan vs. Post-pan 02:31:00 - Getting into knives 02:41:45 - The play's the thing 02:51:00 - The undersea depart 02:59:03 - Jeevan and Kirsten reunite 03:05:10 - Book differences 03:10:00 - Closing thoughts 03:21:00 - Support us at pateron.com/zeroindent

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    We're The Monsters - Station Eleven (2021) Ep7-8

    You stand within the empty, sterile corridor. You don't so much hear the voices of what came before as you feel the ghosts within the structure. Architectural memory of the workers who clocked in. The travelers who moaned while waiting for their flight. The weight of all of that prehistory lurks in the shadows and fills the empty, forgotten rooms. The world is gone, yet the world remains. David and Patrick are joined by  @DarthdYT  to spend an entire episode with their step dads before confronting old traumas. Support Us Merch & Books: underink.press The Publication: zeroindent.com Bonus episodes: patreon.com/zeroindent   Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00:00 - it begins! 00:02:15 - Feelings about Dads 00:10:56 - Person of Interest 00:17:30 - Station Eleven Episode 7 Summary 00:19:00 - Subjectivity: The Kirsten(s) 00:29:00 - Frank's Strange Life TM 00:49:30 - Radical empathy 00:58:50 - Frank's sacrifice 01:23:30 - Improbable Reflections 01:32:00 - Behind the scenes 01:36:20 - Station Eleven Episode 8 Summary 01:38:30 - The airport monument 01:48:41 - The past is safe 01:56:00 - Arthur the invisible nexus 02:05:20 - Clarke vs. Arthur 02:15:00 - Uhoh, capitalism! 02:21:15 - Arthur's blessed/cursed life 02:29:50 - Sleep walking 02:44:00 - Dark night(s) of the soul 02:57:30 - Tyler's great reveal 03:10:00 - Killing the past 03:19:30 - Support us at patreon.com/zeroindent

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    The Sweetness of Life - Station Eleven (2021) Ep5-6

    You stare through the glass at the silent world. The transparent barrier forever sealed, and as you look out, death watches back, invisible, waiting. David and Patrick are joined by  ⁨@DarthdYT⁩  to follow Severn City through the end of the world and then meeting up with the Undersea. Glossary: https://zeroindent.com/apocalypse/ Support Us Merch & Books: underink.press The Publication: zeroindent.com Bonus episodes: patreon.com/zeroindent   Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00 - It begins! 01:50 - The tension of the collapse 07:05 - Patrick Sommerville on life immitating art 13:30 - Station Eleven episode 6 summary 16:02 - Clarke The Leader 25:30 - Shakespeare Theory Hour: King Lear 30:15 - Arthur & Tyler 40:30 - Delusions of the past 46:30 - Trio's rise to power 56:18 - The Tyler Problem 01:13:00 - Elizabeth vs. Clarke 01:25:20 - Tyler's fake death (Horatio) 01:40:23 - The Heterotopic Aiport 01:59:22 - Real kids vs. TV 02:01:59 - Station Eleven Episode 6 Summary 02:06:30 - Shock and Threat 02:15:45 - The tent montage 02:22:00 - Kirsten meets The Undersea 02:37:45 - Prophet vs. Kirsten 02:50:20 - Moral Relativisim: Damage 03:06:00 - Prophet's cult logic 03:19:45 - Support us at patreon.com/zeroindent

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    The Wrong Life - Station Eleven (2021) Ep3-4

    Wind ripples through the grass, the blades pale and grey in the starlight, and the shifting trees and blank horizon remind you of that feeling, serenity, the feeling of cosmic logic with your first love, a lifetime ago, before the world ended. David and Patrick are joined by  @DarthdYT  to dive head-first into a bottle episode, and then deal with the Prophet's violent ends. Support Us Merch & Books: underink.press The Publication: zeroindent.com Bonus episodes: patreon.com/zeroindent   Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00 - It begins! 02:10 - High level reactions (TLDR: this show rules, ep3 is confusing to Darth) 06:39 - Causality and narrative frameworks 13:50 - The comic might be magical 16:38 - Station Eleven Episode 3 Summary 19:00 - Violence is socially located in Station Eleven 23:56 - Physical objects and art 29:13 - Arthur and Miranda: affectation or changeable 48:28 - Shakespeare Theory Hour: Rosencrantz and Guildenstern 01:06:49 - Darth's small nitpick is ACTUALLY good writing 01:08:45 - The social is predicated on it's exclusions 01:10:45 - Miranda's apocalypse 01:22:01 - I remember damage: the ending of things 01:32:20 - Cursed dinner party 101 01:50:25 - Pitch meeting & regrets 02:05:15 - Miranda's life: what is art 02:14:58 - Station Eleven Episode 4 Summary 02:18:45 - The prophet's cult 02:21:50 - Production design & characterisation 02:26:30 - The golf resort & the prophet 02:36:34 - Shakespeare Theory Hour: The Tempest 02:39:10 - Rhetoric of competent Jeevan 2:43:35 - The comic's story 2:49:06 - Generational divide 2:53:30 - Beacons for the prophet 03:02:50 - Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Aren't Dead 03:15:00 - Support us at patreon.com/zeroindent

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    I Remember Damage - Station Eleven (2021) Ep1-2

    A stale wind blows in from over the bay, warm and foreboding, and you feel, more than know, that danger rides on the horizon, threatening the small life you've built after the collapse. Starting our coverage of Patrick Somerville's Station Eleven (2021, David and Patrick are joined by  ⁨@DarthdYT⁩  to open a tall glass of emotions and drink deep from the "wait... what is this show" bottle. Support Us Merch & Books: underink.press The Publication: zeroindent.com Bonus episodes: patreon.com/zeroindent   Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00 - It begins! 2:45 - Emily St John Mandel & Station Eleven Reactions 13:00 - A note on stylistics 17:04 - Station Eleven Episode 1 Summary 18:50 - The place of art, technology and Shakespeare 24:12 - Jeevan the reluctant guy-who-does-things & phones 32:05 - Arthur Leander's death & the comic book 41:34 - The gradual horror of things slowly ending 55:00 - Films and how masks work (a Darth nit-pick special) 59:54 - The Chaudray's: Frank the genius, Jeevan the loser 1:03:45 - The Collapse story is a perpetual tragedy 1:10:35 - The Last of Us vs. Station Eleven 1:18:40 - The jump forward (Kirsten and the space man) 1:22:45 - Station Eleven Episode 2 Summary 1:24:00 - Young Kirsten joins the symphony 1:33:25 - Subjectivity and that Independence Day speech 1:46:20 - Making a living doing Shakespeare 1:55:36 - Jeevan's speculative disappearance 2:01:00 - The stranger's vibes are way off 2:05:55 - The Hamilton aside 2:07:06 - Kirsten's approach to reality 2:12:15 - The Hamlet scene explained: grief is always happening 2:26:10 - The first lines from Station Eleven & the stranger 2:37:15 - Incredible adaption alert 2:41:25 - Support us at patreon.com/zeroindent

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    The Original Apocalypse Film - The World, The Flesh and The Devil (1959)

    The wind kicks up against the side of the buildings, the empty storefronts and vacant display cabinets seem to mock as you wander further, looking for shelter. To kick off our next unit David and Patrick are joined by Darth to discuss and analyse 1959's The World, The Flesh and The Devil, the progenitor of an entire genre's aesthetic. Support Us Merch & Books: underink.press The Publication: zeroindent.com Bonus episodes: patreon.com/zeroindent   Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00 - Welcome to the end! 01:30 - The antagonistic facial hair discussion 05:14 - The Post Apocalypse as a genre: tropes & history 12:45 - The genre itself: heterotpias and the end of the world 29:46 - The World, The Flesh and The Devil (1959) Summary 34:02 - Intro to Ralph's character 42:00 - The World, The Flesh and the genre 48:31 - Designing the end of the world 1:04:15 - Instrumentalizing race in the apocalypse 1:25:35 - Sarah realises the world has ended 1:36:15 - The relationships: Sarah, Ben, Ralph 1:45:19 - Ben goes mask off and hunts Ralph 1:55:40 - Meaning of the film 2:04:40 - Support us at patreon.com/zeroindent    

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    Join ZeroIndent's Study of Post-Apocalypse Fiction

    The world goes quiet beyond your window, and after exhausting the supplies in your pantry, you finally decide to brave the world outside…. Join David, Patrick and Darth as they embark on their brand new unit, studying post apocalypse fiction. Listen to the first episode right now on Patreon.

  23. 56

    "The Kingpin" - Dare(Devil) In The Details (Daredevil Born Again Ep9)

    The night sky blossoms over the dark city, a thousand suns that permeate the blackness... This week David and Pat are joined by  @DarthdYT  to discuss the finale of Daredevil Born Again. Support Us Merch & Books ►► underink.press The Publication ►► zeroindent.com Get episodes early ►►patreon.com/zeroindent Follow AMTTM ►►  amttm.com The Show (Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent. Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us? This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible. All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024 © D.C. McNeill Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/ Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00 - It Begins! 01:25 - Darth has an enemies list 02:30 - Wrapping up Dare(devil) In The Details 10:00 - What's next for Daredevil? 19:10 - Daredevil Born Again episode 9 summary 22:05 - Vanessa's manipulation of Dex & the Kingpin 32:45 - Matt Murdock & Fisk deal with the shooting 35:12 - The meat pie discussion 43:45 - Who is the real Kingpin? 54:45 - Fisk takes over the city 1:09:00 - Darth's Kangaroo tangent 1:11:10 - Has Fisk actually changed? 1:30:40 - Frank & Daredevil's big time show down 1:45:45 - Karen Page is back in full effect! 1:58:15 - Daniel Blake's character conclusion 2:07:02 - Karen and Matt should kissss??? 2:10:00 - Fisk's freeport scheme 2:14:00 - The violent conclusion of the episode 2:26:30 - Frank confronts Powell and his clowns 2:35:30 - Daredevil: powers, outfits & the colour red 2:43:12 - The dark, the wrath and the light 2:54:10 - The final speech: rebellion, class warfare, socialist Hulk 3:02:35 - Concluding thoughts on Born Again 3:09:35 - What's next for The ZeroIndent Review 3:12:15 - Support us at patreon.com/zeroindent

  24. 55

    "The Predator or Prey" - Dare(Devil) In The Details (Daredevil Born Again Ep8)

    You watch the silhouettes in ballgowns and suits through the fogged over windows, the eyes of the guards sweeping over the humid, quiet streets... This week David and Pat are joined by  @DarthdYT  to analyse Born Again's most structurally complicated episode so far. Support Us Merch & Books ►► underink.press The Publication ►► zeroindent.com Get episodes early ►►patreon.com/zeroindent Follow AMTTM ►►  amttm.com The Show (Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent. Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us? This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible. All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024 © D.C. McNeill Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/ Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00 - It Begins! 00:45 - Darth's retirement party 01:50 - Daredevil Born Again Ep8 high level thoughts 07:40 - Episode 8 "Isle of Joy" Summary 10:30 - The reintroduction of Dex 14:30 - Fisk's weird lair: the cursed marriage continues 22:00 - Heather and Matt's spiralling relationship 28:30 - Fisk and Daniel Blake and Institutions 34:15 - Complex characterisation: Matt, McDuffie, Writing 44:55 - Dex: the key to the whole story 1:01:30 - The Screen Rant Rant 1:06:05 - Darth's insane Trumpet nitpick 1:08:50 - Fisk's ball: Blake & BB & sexuality 1:19:50 - Fisk's ball: Jack & Fisk & corruption 1:27:46 - Fisk's ball: Matt & Heather & boyfriends 1:33:15 - Fisk's ball: Powell & secret police 1:37:30 - Fisk's ball: the climatic dance & inverting Netflix's finale 2:07:50 - Support us at patreon.com/zeroindent

  25. 54

    "The Thin Dark Line" - Dare(Devil) In The Details (Daredevil Born Again Ep6-7)

    You hurry through the alleyway, exposed brick dense with purple and red graffiti, that feeling of being watched sits heavy on your back...   This week David and Pat are joined by  @DarthdYT  to break down two big episodes of pay off as the Devil of Hell's Kitchen returns. Support Us Merch & Books ►► underink.press The Publication ►► zeroindent.com Get episodes early ►►patreon.com/zeroindent Follow AMTTM ►►  amttm.com The Show (Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent. Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us? This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible. All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024 © D.C. McNeill Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/ Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00 - It Begins! 01:45 - Darth is more right than he could ever know 03:00 - High level thoughts of Episodes 6 & 7: fight scenes & pay off 14:07 - Born Again Episode 6 "Excessive Force" Summary 18:45 - Wilson Fisk the kiss ass 22:30 - Opening scene: St Ives, the role of Foggy Nelson & Fisk 33:00 - The show's identity is in free fall 36:00 - The asymmetry of therapy wife 40:00 - Angela visits the office and guilt trips Matt 45:30 - The serial killer Muse set up 54:24 - Fisk's disaster of a fundraising event 1:03:35 - Fisk's secret police (super normal behaviour) 1:10:45 - The Adam confrontation 1:18:40: - Daredevil vs. Muse round one 1:32:05 - The place of violence in revolution 1:40:30 - Born Again Episode 7 "Art For Art's Sake" 1:42:04 - What do you see out this window 1:44:15 - Matt and Heather: Daredevil as addiction 2:01:50 - Wilson Fisk the demagogue and the business 2:10:15 - Bastion The Muse aka 80's serial killer 2:20:45 - Daredevil vs. Muse fight breakdown 2:37:20 - Vanessa and Fisk's toxic murder romance 2:41:50 - The new Daredevil armour 2:45:50 - Support us at Patreon.com/zeroindent

  26. 53

    "The Guilty Party" - Dare(Devil) In The Details (Daredevil Born Again Ep4-5)

    The city clamours and perspires. You search for reprieve in the bodega, only to find flashing red and blue lights...   This week David and Pat are joined by  ⁨@DarthdYT⁩  delve into the two most dissonant episodes of Born Again so far. Support Us Merch & Books ►► underink.press The Publication ►► zeroindent.com Get episodes early ►►patreon.com/zeroindent Follow AMTTM ►►  amttm.com The Show (Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent. Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us? This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible. All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024 © D.C. McNeill Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/ Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00 - It begins! 01:13 - First note comparison 07:00 - High level thoughts on episodes 4 & 5 17:15 - Daredevil Born Again Episode 4 Summary 19:30 - David springs the Vanessa Therapist trap on Darth 23:15 - New York City: Fisk The Warlord & Matt Murdock The Shaman 35:15 - The dude in the bloody mask 36:40 - We give Steve Carrell his flowers 41:00 - The Daniel Blake of it all 43:50 - Bradford's case & Hector's death: morality and theft 1:06:08 - Cursed Therapy 2.0: Vanessa's relationship with Adam 1:15:00 - Fisk's really terrible very bad week 1:26:54 - Matt Murdock and Frank Castle argument 1:44:10 - Heather and Matt are so great together 1:52:30 - Support independent media outlets 1:53:30 - Daredevil Born Again Episode 5 Summary 1:54:10 - Do we watch the intro or not? 1:56:30 - Who is this Yusuf guy, also mutants? 2:01:50 - David has a mental breakdown about Funkopops and capitalism 2:11:10 - The bank robbery set up and analysis 2:25:30 - A dinner with Captain Marvel and other tangents 2:35:40 - We're not having lunch 2:39:14 - Support as at patreon.com/zeroindent

  27. 52

    "The White Tiger" - Dare(Devil) In The Details (Daredevil Born Again Ep2-3)

    You sit on the beach, and the quiet song of the coquis trickle over the restless waves. Foam glitters orange with the sunset's reflection...   David and Patrick are joined by  @DarthdYT  to discuss the disastrous events surrounding Hector Ayala's trial. Support Us Merch & Books ►► underink.press The Publication ►► zeroindent.com Get episodes early ►►patreon.com/zeroindent Follow AMTTM ►►  amttm.com The Show (Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent. Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us? This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible. All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024 © D.C. McNeill Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/ Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00 - It begins! 09:09 - Daredevil Born Again Episode 2 "Optics" Summary 12:43 - Unpacking the episode's contention with policing 15:00 - Opening White Tiger fight discussion: innocent or accident 27:30 - Fisk monologue: Fathers & Mayors & slipping backward 38:45 - Fisk's silly optics stunt 42:55 - Uhoh, it's time to talk about fascism again 47:26 - Matt Murdock takes on the police 50:55 - Fisk's relationship with the police & Heather's role in the story 1:00:00 - Cherrie's Technological Determinism 1:08:05 - The banality of Fisk's fall: the cheese-steak scene 1:14:50 - How to suppress the White Tiger 1:19:15 - The disastrous Wilson and Vanessa marriage 1:34:48 - Matt saves Nickey in brutal fight 1:44:00 - Daredevil Born Again Episode 3 "Hollow of His Hand" Summary 1:49:15 - Episode opening structural analysis 1:59:00 - Opening statements and testimony discussion 2:05:33 - The foul vibes of Vanessa and Fisk's marriage 2:15:10 - The trial of Hector Ayala, The White Tiger 2:37:00 - The emotions of the final verdict 2:46:00 - A note on continuity 2:47:10 - Hollow of his hand & religion 2:53:50 - The death of Hector Ayala

  28. 51

    "The Devil's Work" - Dare(Devil) In The Details (Daredevil Born Again Ep1)

    Smog seeps up from the manhole covers and chimney stacks, obscuring your view of a stranger approaching in the dark... David and Patrick are joined by  @DarthdYT  to kick off their coverage of Daredevil Born Again. This episode the guys breakdown Episode 1, Heaven's Half Hour. Support Us Merch & Books ►► underink.press The Publication ►► zeroindent.com Get episodes early ►►patreon.com/zeroindent Follow AMTTM ►►  amttm.com The Show (Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent. Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us? This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible. All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024 © D.C. McNeill Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/ Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00 - It begins! 02:33 - High level tThoughts 05:13 - Daredevil Born Again "Heaven's Half Hour" Summary 09:25 - Character establishment anaylsis 21:15 - The Marvel franchise problem 31:27 - Bullseye and the big fight scene 45:39 - The "impact" of Dex's Death 50:30 - Naturalistic candid storytelling 52:00 - Intro credits discussion 55:03 - One year later and character inversion 1:03:03 - Darerdevil, Jameson, Trump and Post Modernism 1:11:30 - Fisk and Vanessa are in a weird place 1:17:50 - Murdock and McDuffie: Matt Murdock The Successful Lawyer 1:20:01 - Dex's trial: Matt's testimonial, giving up Daredevil & Foggy's legacy 1:34:00 - Matt and Karen's disaster of a conversation 1:46:30 - Matt's cooking, addiction, distraction and grief 1:53:00 - Fisk is running for Mayor & this gormless worm 1:57:00 - Matt and Heather's meet cute 2:03:15 - Murdock and McDuffie and Sherry 2:09:45 - Fisk and Matt confront each other's darker halves 2:19:30 - How to deal with the secret identity 2:30:15 - The end of the episode 2:33:00 - Brought you by subscribers at patreon.com/zeroindent

  29. 50

    "The Bat and The Cat" - Dare(Devil) In The Details (The Batman Part 3)

    You lean a palm on the wall, gaze out at the flooded city, and wonder how we might come back from such a calamity... David and Patrick are joined  @DarthdYT  to break down the final hour of Matt Reeves' The Batman (2022). Support Us Merch & Books ►► underink.press The Publication ►► zeroindent.com Get episodes early ►►patreon.com/zeroindent Follow AMTTM ►►  amttm.com The Show (Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent. Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us? This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible. All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024 © D.C. McNeill Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/ Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00 - It begins! 05:21 - The gang argues about Peter Quill 06:15 - Summary 11:40 - Let's talk about Productive Ambiguity 35:09 - The Riddler as an accountant 40:39 - The Riddler's Monologue 1:00:55 - Time for real change 1:20:15 - The problem of guns escalates 1:30:50 - The question of masks and truth 1:36:44 - Closing monologue discussion 1:46:56 - The Bat and The Cat 1:53:15 - What is the film about? 2:00:01 - How to make things better 2:07:11 - Support us at patreon.com/zeroindent

  30. 49

    "Sins Of The Father" - Dare(Devil) In The Details (The Batman Part 2)

    Rain crashes over the brim of your baseball cap, the steam pouring from the grating obscures whatever lays in the dark alley... David and Patrick are joined  @DarthdYT  to break down the second hour of Matt Reeves' The Batman (2022). Support Us Merch & Books ►► underink.press The Publication ►► zeroindent.com Get episodes early ►►patreon.com/zeroindent Follow AMTTM ►►  amttm.com The Show (Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent. Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us? This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible. All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024 © D.C. McNeill Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/ Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00 - It begins! 03:24 - David watched all of Twilight?!? 04:30 - Summary 10:15 - The Funeral Discussion 39:46 - The Riddler's Car Bomb and Riddles 57:50 - Batman escapes the GCPD 1:08:25 - The Rat 1:11:15 - The Bat Mobile is a hybrid (and it rocks) 1:30:14 - The Computer Scene and Dath's Weird Gripe 1:39:48 - Wayne Orphanage 1:46:10 - Bible Study: The Sins of The Father 1:57:30 - See You In Hell 2:06:03 - Selina and Falcone 2:15:29 - Falcone's "Your Father" Monologue 2:29:45 - Anneka's Death 2:33:36 - The Gotham Renewal Fund 2:40:00 - Selina Confronts Falcone 2:51:02 - The Riddler Is Caught 3:01:00 - David Blows Smoke at Matt Reeves 3:03:26 - Outro 3:05:01 - Support us at patreon.com/zeroindent

  31. 48

    "To The Batman" - (Dare)Devil In The Details (The Batman Part 1)

    Rain crashes over the brim of your baseball cap, the steam pouring from the grating obscures whatever lays in the dark alley... David and Patrick are joined by Rye and  @DarthdYT  to discuss the first hour of Matt Reeves' The Batman (2022). Support Us Merch & Books ►► underink.press The Publication ►► zeroindent.com Get episodes early ►►patreon.com/zeroindent Follow AMTTM ►►  amttm.com The Show (Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent. Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us? This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible. All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024 © D.C. McNeill Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/ Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00 - It begins! 08:41 - High level reactions 11:29 - Summary 15:28 - Comprehensive opening analysis 31:08 - The Mayor's Death and the noir genre 44:37 - Opening Monologue Discussion 1:15:00 - The action scenes and how they work 1:26:38 - Batman is a big dude in a rich house 1:48:08 - The Bat cave and media criticism 1:59:20 - Bruce and Alfred's Relationship 2:06:01 - Technology and style 2:23:17 - The Batman goes to see the Penguin 2:35:00 -The platonic romance 2:49:10 - Sympathy and Empathy 3:00:45 - Alfred's role and willingness 3:06:01 - Bruce's car is a real car-guy car 3:10:13 - Support us at patreon.com/zeroindent

  32. 47

    "Daredevil Born Again First Trailer Reaction" - (Dare)Devil In The Details

    You wake, groggy, and roll over to discover a flickering light in the dim room... It's here! Daredevil Born Again just landed in our laps and we get stuck right in. David is obsessed by the line that is crossed, and Pat just really wants to watch the show already. Support Us Merch & Books ►► underink.press The Publication ►► zeroindent.com Get episodes early ►►patreon.com/zeroindent Follow AMTTM ►►  amttm.com The Show (Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent. Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us? This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible. All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024 © D.C. McNeill Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/ Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 02:37 - Live Reaction 04:43 - General Reaction and Thoughts 10:05 - What's the line that gets crossed 15:56 - How to craft a trailer 18:00 - Fisk's deal and ambitions 22:56 - Addiction and Daredevil 28:02 - Fisk and Matt's dynamic 32:12 - Larger MCU questions 35:09 - The violence seems fresh 38:01 - Who's the new woman 39:50 - What would make an interesting show for Matt 43:15 - What we don't want to see 45:20 - What we want to see 53:27 - When are we talking about Born Again 55:25 - We're just happy to be here 57:10 - Support us at patreon.com/zeroindent

  33. 46

    "Daredevil Kingdom of Ruin - (Dare)Devil In The Details (Pat's Prospective Season 4)

    After a great calamity you stumble out of an empty apartment building, shield your eyes against the bright sun... Welcome to our season finale! Step into our writer's room as Pat steps us through his pitch for a prospective season 4 of Netflix's Daredevil, contending with the events of the snap, The Defenders and what it means to have power. Support Us Merch & Books ►► underink.press The Publication ►► zeroindent.com Get episodes early ►►patreon.com/zeroindent Follow AMTTM ►►  amttm.com The Show (Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent. Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us? This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible. All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024 © D.C. McNeill Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/ Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00 - It begins! 03:33 - The boys are nervous 07:11 - Table Stakes 15:18 - The Tone and Style Pitch 23:33 - The Themes of Season 4: Religious Faith 32:59 - Character Arcs and Set Ups 49:11 - Matt's Story 1:06:31 - Karen's Story 1:20:40 - Jessica's Story 1:32:40 - Luke's Story 2:10:52 - Fisk's Story 2:48:20 - Trish's Story 3:11:14 - Hardy's Story 3:34:15 - The Final Conflict of The Story 3:51:30 - The experience of doing the work 4:05:11 - We're so grateful for the show 4:10:00 - Support us at Patreon.com/zeroindent

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    "Elf Doesn't Care About Your Politics" - The ZeroIndent Review (Elf 2003)

    It's that special  time of year: time to dive into the salvetic world of Elf and explore all of the strange quirks of being a film made in 2003 pretending that 2001 didn't happen. Support Us Merch & Books ►► underink.press The Publication ►► zeroindent.com Get episodes early ►►patreon.com/zeroindent Follow AMTTM ►►  amttm.com The Show (Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent. Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us? This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible. All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024 © D.C. McNeill Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/ Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00 - It begins! 03:26 - The history of Elf (2003) 13:57 - Summary 16:59 - World building and set up 24:29 - That shower scene sure is... huh? 33:00 - Buddy leaves the North Pole 41:42 - Buddy's father issues and capitalism 49:23 - The calculus of Buddy's "Niceness" 59:59 - The world's worst house guest continues 1:13:52 - So let's talk about 2001 1:25:26 - The date of a lifetime 1:39:00 - Content warning: discussions of self-harm and suicide 1:46:00 - Elf's many references 1:52:00 - The ending and final assessment 2:09:15 - Heart warming final moments and resonance 2:29:10 - Support indie media crit at patreon.com/zeroindent  

  35. 44

    "Green With Envy" - (Dare)Devil In The Details (She-Hulk 2022)

    The boys check in with Matt Murdock the root rat and his appearance in She-Hulk to answer one simple question: is the show anything? What's the deal She-Hulk? Support Us Merch & Books ►► underink.press The Publication ►► zeroindent.com Get episodes early ►►patreon.com/zeroindent Follow AMTTM ►►  amttm.com The Show (Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent. Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us? This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible. All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024 © D.C. McNeill Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/ Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 4:30 - She-Hulk Summary 9:05 - The Daredevil of it all 21:33 - What's Going On With Jen 30:15 - Why Is Matt Murdock In She-Hulk 40:19 - Maybe the MCU Hurts She-Hulk? 52:40 - I Dunno Man Apple TV Make Good Stuff 58:20 - Our Concerns and Hopes for Daredevil Born Again 1:06:11 - Outro  

  36. 43

    "The Devil You Know" - (Dare)Devil In The Details (Daredevil Ep 39)

    It's finally here. Daredevil and crew close in on Fisk and everything comes to a head. Pat is invested in the religious symbolism, and David brings Rabbit In A Snowstorm back into frame. Support Us Merch & Books ►► underink.press The Publication ►► zeroindent.com Get episodes early ►►patreon.com/zeroindent Follow AMTTM ►►  amttm.com The Show (Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent. Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us? This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible. All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024 © D.C. McNeill Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/ Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 2:50 - Episode 13 "A New Napkin" Discussion 15:21 - Once You Start, Bad Things Beget Bad Things 23:38 - David's Dramatic Flaw 28:55 - How To Stop Matt Murdock 35:36 - The Flaw In Fisk's Plan 40:38 - Using Your Powers For Good? 44:45 - Ray's Death Testimonial 50:38 - Fisk's Happily Ever After 56:35 - Evil Defeats Itself 1:05:20 - Fisk Is Finally Done 1:10:41 - The Ballroom Fight 1:14:00 - The Final Fight Scene: Daredevil vs. Fisk 1:20:17 - Rabbit In A Snowstorm: The Defiled Truths 1:35:03 - The Quick Religious Chat 1:40:24 - The Matt & Maggie Epilogue 1:55:11 - The New Napkin Conversation 2:02:19 - Well, That Appears To Be It 2:10:11 - Daredevil Is Still Genius 2:16:20 - Outro

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    "One Black Hope" - (Dare)Devil In The Details (Daredevil Ep 37-38)

    Once again Daredevil continues to be absolutely fantastic - all of our characters try their best last swings, and it all falls apart. Pat loves Fisk's particular brand of evil, and David is compelled to dote on Matt's decision making. Support Us Merch & Books ►► underink.press The Publication ►► zeroindent.com Get episodes early ►►patreon.com/zeroindent Follow AMTTM ►►  amttm.com The Show (Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent. Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us? This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible. All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024 © D.C. McNeill Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/ Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 4:20 - Episode 11 "Reunion" Discussion 25:51 - The Importance of Location 37:20 - Rabbit In A Snowstorm Meaning 48:30 - What's Going On At Castle Fisk 1:00:03 - Ray Nadeem's Wolves 1:07:46 - Episode 11 "One Last Shot" Discussion 1:17:51 - Pat's Cosmic Karma Scale 1:23:00 - The Fraught Vanessa Question 1:31:40 - Matt's Emotional Catharsis: Saving Sammi 1:41:34 - Downsizing Your Ninja Employees 1:45:50 - Courthouse Journey Fight 1:54:00 - Vanessa and Fisk Give Us The Ick 2:59:33 - Matt's Final Turn 2:02:59 - Production Discussion 2:08:36 - Outro

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    "Daredevil Born Again First Look Reaction" - (Dare)Devil In The Details (Marvel Studios | Look Ahead | Disney+)

    IT HAPPENED. Born Again is real. Patrick and David are joined by Darth to watch and react to our first official look at the revival of our favourite show. Support Us Merch & Books ►► underink.press The Publication ►► zeroindent.com Get episodes early ►►patreon.com/zeroindent Follow AMTTM ►►  amttm.com The Show (Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent. Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us? This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible. All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024 © D.C. McNeill Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/ Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 3:35 - Reaction 6:37 - What Do We Want From Born Again? 13:55 - How Does Matt Fit Into the MCU 20:40 - Wilson Fisk, Where Is He Now 28:00 - How To Reference The MCU 31:58 - What Cameos Do We Want 41:20 - The Problem With Comics 47:50 - Marvel's Sandbox Problem 55:10 - What To Do With Disney TV 59:40 - Follow A Method To The Madness 1:00:03 - Patreon.com/zeroindent.com

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    "Out, Out Black Spot" - (Dare)Devil In The Details (Daredevil Ep 35-36)

    The tragedy is real: it's time for the flashback episode. Pat isn't quite sure if it all comes together. David is geeked out on the structure of these episodes. Support Us Merch & Books ►► underink.press The Publication ►► zeroindent.com Get episodes early ►►patreon.com/zeroindent Follow AMTTM ►►  amttm.com The Show (Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent. Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us? This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible. All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024 © D.C. McNeill Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/ Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 00:42 - Disclaimer: Content Warning 1:02 - Good Stuff! 5:12 - Episode 9 "Revelations" Discussion 25:32 - Karen's Guilt 35:32 - Nadeem Does A Whoopsie 45:20 - The Fundamentals Done Right 54:55 - Pool Metaphors 57:05 - Structural Work: Dex Is Happy To Do It 1:19:30 - The Small Evils of Fisk 1:33:50 - Episode 10 "Karen" Discussion 1:48:30 - This Flashback... Why 1:55:00 - Karen's Mum & The Dinner 2:07:11 - What The Story Wants 2:19:33 - Lantom's Death 2:31:40 -  David's Evolution 2:38:28 - Outro

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    "Blacker Days Yet" - (Dare)Devil In The Details (Daredevil Ep 33-34)

    Finally Foggy does a good speech. Pat runs the table on Dex's gradual turn to pure evil, and David ends up with more notes than he knows what to do with. Support Us Merch & Books ►► underink.press The Publication ►► zeroindent.com Get episodes early ►►patreon.com/zeroindent Follow AMTTM ►►  amttm.com The Show (Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent. Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us? This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible. All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024 © D.C. McNeill Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/ Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 0:36 - Pat's North Star 04:22 - Episode 7 "Aftermath" Discussion 17:20 - Matt and Maggie: Catholic Roles 24:00 - Nadeem Interrogates Karen 29:56 - David's Dot Points 47:00 - "I've out-grown what it stood for" 54:20 - Ellison Isn't Dead 59:05 - Nadeem Is So Flawed: Also Capitalism 1:14:59 - UnderInk.Press For Merch! 1:15:44 - Episode 8 "Upstairs/Downstairs" Discussion 1:28:30 - Questions of Dex 1:35:50 - Foggy's Big Speech 1:45:00 - Karen Confronts Fisk 1:55:30 - Dex Burns The Tapes 2:05:35 - Nadeem "The wife guy" gets shot 2:15:17 - Ellison and Karen 2:25:11 - Outro

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    "Black All The Way Down" - (Dare)Devil In The Details (Daredevil Ep 31-32)

    The show gets delightfully weird. Pat loves how messy the story is becoming while David can't stop talking about how good Fisk is. Support Us Merch & Books ►► underink.press The Publication ►► zeroindent.com Get episodes early ►►patreon.com/zeroindent Follow AMTTM ►►  amttm.com The Show (Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent. Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us? This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible. All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024 © D.C. McNeill Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/ Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 0:33 - Time to get weird 3:31 - Episode 5 "Perfect Game" Discussion 26:05 - Fisk Downloads Dex & Subtext Functions In Daredevil 49:50 - Dex and Julie: Disaster Alert 52:11 - Andor Correction 54:55 - Heightening Character Drama 57:59 - Dex and Julie: What Exactly Is His Deal 1:05:11 - Karen's Admission 1:09:45 - UnderInk.Press For Merch! 1:10:26 - Episode 6 "The Devil You Know" Discussion 1:21:40 - Fisk and Dex: Questions of Control 1:26:10 - Matt and Dex Parallels 1:29:15 - Dex Confronts Fisk 1:36:40 - Vincent D'Onofrio Is A Genius 1:42:59 - Karen Goes Detective Mode 1:50:35 - Ray Nadeem's Life is a DISASTER 1:58:30 - Dex's Perfectionism 2:04:10 - Objects In Space & Terror 2:13:50 - Outro

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    "Black and Bloodied" - (Dare)Devil In The Details (Daredevil Ep 29-30)

    Character drama that hits soft and hits the right way is the name of today's game. David is all about the embellishments that make characters real. Pat starts to see The Matrix with where the show is going. Editor's Note: We're all on the same page about Dex, yeah? Absolute creep show that you can't look away from. Support Us Merch & Books ►► underink.press The Publication ►► zeroindent.com Get episodes early ►►patreon.com/zeroindent Follow AMTTM ►►  amttm.com The Show (Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent. Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us? This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible. All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024 © D.C. McNeill Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/ Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 3:30 - Episode 3 - "No Good Deed" Discussion 10:30 - Ray Nadeem Is Capitalism's Kick-Me Sticker 13:30 - Karen's Awful Blind Date & Life 17:13 - Matt Talks To Fisk (sorta) 25:50 - Matt Does A Hitman 30:11 - Fisk Might Be Ruining Everyone (also an F1 bit) 40:00 - A Correction 43:15 - There's No Cure For Wilson Fisk 52:49 - Ray's Whole Awful Life Gets Worse 59:20 - Dex Is A Stalker, Yeah, Yep, We're Not Thrilled 1:03:59 - Matt Is Still Doing Hitman 1:06:11 - Karen Figures That Capitalism Is Bad 1:10:25 - Genre And Mechanisms Of Perversion 1:16:00 - Episode 4 - "Blindsided" Discussion 1:21:00 - Making Reality Unified Is A Trick (Fake News etc.) 1:23:13 - Action and Consequence 1:32:23 - Matt Murdock Is Alive 1:35:45 - Fine, It's The Corridor Fight 1:46:36 - Foggy's Big Time Speech 1:50:13 - The Monsters Within 1:56:00 - Fisk Is A Radical Right Wing Nut Job 1:57:15 - Cliffhangers Always Muck You Up 1:59:11 - AMTTM Check Em Out 2:01:16 - Outro

  43. 36

    "The Black Return" - (Dare)Devil In The Details (Daredevil Ep 27-28)

    We are BAAAACCCCK guys. Daredevil is good again. Pat is sitting on some bombshells he'd loved to reveal and David can't get over how great Nadeem's predicament is. Editor's Note: Let's goooooooooooo Daredevil is back. Support Us Merch & Books ►► underink.press The Publication ►► zeroindent.com Get episodes early ►►patreon.com/zeroindent Follow AMTTM ►►  amttm.com The Show (Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent. Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us? This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible. All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024 © D.C. McNeill Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/ Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 4:55 - Episode 1 - "Resurrection" Discussion 13:33 - God's Path 20:09: - Joeb's Story & Matt Murdock: Yikes 28:05 - The Fisk Omelette Again 33:21 - Matt Deals With His Injuries (Spiritual and Physical) 51:05 - Integrated World Capitalism and Ray Nadeem 1:00:00 - The ABC Plot Parallels 1:05:00 - Episode 2 - "Please" Discussion 1:14:11 - The Inevitability Tragedy of Being Yourself 1:26:40  - Ray Is Doomed, Bro 1:33:00 - Writers Matter, Actually 1:44:22 - Karen Does Her Job 1:50:39 - The World Has Moved On 1:58:00 - Fisk, The Convoy, & Dex 2:03:48 - Dissonance and Endings 2:02:00 - Support Us At zeroindent.com

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    "The Defenders Blues" - (Dare)Devil In The Details (The Defenders Ep 07-08)

    We did it. The boys made it to the end of The Defenders and it only nearly killed David. Pat is thankful it's over and David is frustrated that the show exists at all. Support Us Merch & Books ►► underink.press The Publication ►► zeroindent.com Get episodes early ►►patreon.com/zeroindent Follow AMTTM ►►  amttm.com The Show (Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent. Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us? This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible. All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024 © D.C. McNeill Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/ Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 0:35 - Production Disclaimer 1:57 - High Level Thoughts 11:44 - Episode 7 "Fish in the Jailhouse" Discussion 25:07 - Can You Make Elektra Compelling? 37:30 - Institutions As Systems Of Villainy 40:59 - Messy Confusing Fight 57:44 - Episode 8 "The Defenders" Discussion 1:08:22 - Conceptual Whiplash 1:16:18 - The Defenders Arrive Underground 1:23:24 - Matt Stays Behind To Die 1:33:11 - Why Even Make The Defenders 1:40:16 - Outro

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    "The Double Beat Blues" - (Dare)Devil In The Details (The Defenders Ep 05-06)

    The seams are well and truly here. Pat can't believe how confusing the villains are. David pitches the scene level structural problems as the culprit for the strange sense of pacing. Support Us Merch & Books ►► underink.press The Publication ►► zeroindent.com Get episodes early ►►patreon.com/zeroindent Follow AMTTM ►►  amttm.com The Show (Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent. Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us? This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible. All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024 © D.C. McNeill Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/ Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 2:30 - This Show Won't Pick A Show To Be 6:15 - Episode 5 "Take Shelter" Discussion 13:10 - The Villains Just Aren't Working 18:47 - Danny Is A Plot Device 21:55 - Bad Things Can Be Interesting 32:30 - Violence Isn't Really Violent... 35:45 - Karen and Matt Talk At Last 41:25 - The Good Stuff 44:54 - Colleen and Claire Have A Moment 50:15 - The Messy Sequencing Is Here 1:00:29 - David's Minor Complaint 1:07:01 - Grab Maynard Trigg at UnderInk.Press 1:07:55 - Episode 7 "Ashes, Ashes" Discussion 1:17:00 - Danny Is Underwritten, Poorly 1:21:45 - Elektra Starts To Remember 1:27:00 - The Good Part Of The Episode 1:35:50 - The Stick Of It All 1:42:02 - It's Superhero Rumble Time 1:48:43 - The Issue With Scene Structure 1:58:18 - Economic Incentives & Borges 2:02:55 - Outro

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    "The Team Up Blues" - (Dare)Devil In The Details (The Defenders Ep 02-03)

    Oh geez this time the boys are in the middle of The Defenders and... it's... something. Pat feels the mechanism of forcing the story through its own lens. David is struggling with the fact the writer's room clearly lacked the time to break the story. Support Us Merch & Books ►► underink.press The Publication ►► zeroindent.com Get episodes early ►►patreon.com/zeroindent Follow AMTTM ►►  amttm.com The Show (Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent. Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us? This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible. All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024 © D.C. McNeill Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/ Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 1:38 - Boy These Episodes Are... Not Great 5:04 - Episode 3 "Worst Behaviour" Discussion 12:49 - The Black Sky & The Villain Plot 27:19 - New Jessica Jones Just Dropped: Dumb Biz Lady 31:50 - Danny's Big Time Big Boy Speech 39:35 - Merch & Books: UnderInk.Press 41:12 - Episode 4 "Royal Dragon" Discussion 55:23 - What Could Make These Characters Compelling 1:10:57 - The Nobu Characterisation Problem 1:14:11 - Hit Her With A Car 1:15:52 - Outro

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    "The Introduction Blues" - (Dare)Devil In The Details (The Defenders Ep 01-02)

    The boys are back to talk about The Defenders. Pat is excited to see The Defenders. David is predictably concerned about the symptoms of the story's limitations before providing a rewrite of the show's opening. Support Us Merch & Books ►► underink.press The Publication ►► zeroindent.com Get episodes early ►►patreon.com/zeroindent Follow AMTTM ►►  amttm.com The Show (Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent. Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us? This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible. All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024 © D.C. McNeill Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/ Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 2:32 - Who Are The Defenders? 14:28 - Episode 1 "The H Word" Discussion 22:33 - Tonal Clashing & Synthesising Theme 26:10 - SuperWhoLock Aside 28:03 - Mature Direction 30:40 - Matt Murdock In The Defenders 34:25 - Episode 1 Analysis 44:30 - Father Lantom's Lesson 47:50 - Meta Concerns: Show Runners & Timing 50:06 - It's Villain Time, Baby 53:00 - Luke Cage's Conceit 1:04:10 - Merch & Books: UnderInk.Press 1:04:45 - Episode 2 "Mean Right Hook" Discussion 1:11:18 - The Colleen Angle 1:13:36 - Cinemasin: Matt Is Blind Tho 1:15:55 - The Criminal Imaginary: TURK IS HERE 1:20:08 -  Episode 2 Analysis 1:31:50 - Danny Rand Vs. Luke Cage 1:35:25 - Alexandra Just Logged On 1:39:30 - David Rewrites The Opening Of The Defenders 1:57:24 - Outro

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    "The Red City" - (Dare)Devil In The Details (Daredevil Ep 26)

    The finale of season 2 is here. Questions of sacrifice, murder, morality and redemption are raised, poised, and paused to service The Defenders. David is steeped in notions of what makes Elektra a moveable character and Pat enjoys our last slice of goodness before The Defenders. Perhaps the most compelling point of interest is the mystery of The Hand and the Blacksky, and how The Defenders undercuts a compelling conclusion. Support Us Merch & Books ►► underink.press The Publication ►► zeroindent.com Get episodes early ►►patreon.com/zeroindent Follow AMTTM ►►  amttm.com The Show (Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent. Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us? This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible. All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024 © D.C. McNeill Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/ Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps

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    "The Red and The Dead" - (Dare)Devil In The Details (Daredevil Ep 24-25)

    Our best episode yet. Of anything. Period. This time the boys scratch at what it means to have an identity and whether you're ever really in the driver's seat. Then delve into love. Forgiveness. Faith. If there was ever an episode to listen to, it's this one. David puts his own heartbreak into this one while Pat starts to see the Matrix, connecting simple truths to simple tragedies. Editor's Note: this is my favourite episode so far: the discussion at around 30 min on Frank's world view about love is the most compelling listen for me personally. Also happens to be the episode where we finally figure out David's new mic. What a journey. Support Us Merch & Books ►► underink.press The Publication ►► zeroindent.com Get episodes early ►►patreon.com/zeroindent Follow AMTTM ►►  amttm.com The Show (Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent. Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us? This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible. All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024 © D.C. McNeill Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/ Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 2:39 - Season 2 Episode 11 Discussion 9:44 - Forecasting Genre Changes 14:33 - Intertextuality Within One Text 18:11 - Foggy: The Most Normal Dude In A Weird Story 22:04 - The Unreachable Matt Murdock 30:08 - Frank Castle's Reality: Love Simply Is 39:28 - Where Has Madame Gaoh Even Been? Da Basement 47:00 - Knives Are Scary, Gang 50:31 - Passing The Plot Baton 1:00:00 - Creativity and Labour In End Stage Capitalism 1:11:04 - Season 2 Episode 12 Discussion 1:23:00 - Forgiveness and The Road Back 1:34:14 - Basic Scene Structure Work Is Critical 1:40:00 - The Man In the Room 1:50:51 - Power Creep vs. Progressive Complication 1:53:45 - Determinism: What Is Identity and Destiny 2:07:28 - This Season Pulls Off The Impossible Tragedy 2:13:18 - Spoilers For The Punisher (sorta) 2:16:25 - The Punisher Is Born 2:19:21 - Production Plan 2:21:51 - Outro (and concerns about The Defenders)

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    "Red In The Ledger" - (Dare)Devil In The Details (Daredevil Ep 21-23)

    The show is up late! The boys sink a glass of whisky while breaking down Daredevil's most involved episodes so far. David loves the world building and Pat unravels the key motifs of this season. Support Us Merch & Books ►► underink.press The Publication ►► zeroindent.com Get episodes early ►►patreon.com/zeroindent Follow AMTTM ►►  amttm.com The Show (Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent. Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us? This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible. All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024 © D.C. McNeill Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/ Disclaimer I believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary. Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 3:01 - The Shirts Are Here! 7:09 - Season 2 Episode 8 Discussion 16:16 - Stick Is A Great Driver 22:45 - Structural Ideas of America, Military & Service 31:07 - Matt's Disillusionment 34:37 - The Great Lie of Matt Murdock's Life 38:10 - Death & Frank Castle & Daredevil 47:04 - The Court Room Trap 57:02 - She's a HOT NINJA 1:00:26 - Season 2 Episode 9 Discussion (The Fisk Ep) 1:13:00 - Morality, Abstraction & Reality 1:26:33 - Fisk Dominates The Punisher 1:30:35 - The Minor Tragedies of Love 1:35:43 - The Blood Motif 1:39:27 - Season 2 Episode 10 Discussion 1:45:12 - Karen & Matt's Awkward Chat TM 1:50:25 - World's Worst DA 2:00:43 - Elektra: Just Has It Like That 2:05:20 - Daredevil and Claire On The Roof 2:15:29 - Frank Exonerated (Sorta) 2:17:50 - The Most Relatable Men On The Planet 2:20:46 - David's New Book is OUT NOW UnderInk.Press 2:2318 - Outro

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