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Therefore, what?

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Boyd Matheson interviews national and Utah state thought leaders on the issues that are shaping our world.

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  1. Former Governor Gary R. Herbert on vital lessons and critical strategies from his season of service

    In a day when so-called leaders reign with iron-fisted, command and control, top-down approaches – Utah’s former governor says the fastest way to the top is bottom. Gary R. Herbert, who served 12 years as Utah’s 17th Governor shares vital lessons and critical strategies from his season of…

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  2. Robert Putnam and Shaylyn Romney Garrett on, The Upswing: How America Came Together a Century Ago and How We Can Do It Again

    America is more technologically connected than at any point in history. Yet, social capital seems to be in decline, political divisions run deep, communities are crumbling, and the country appears to be more narcissistic and fragmented than ever before. Robert Putnam, the Malkin Research…

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  3. Former National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster makes the case for strategic empathy

    When discussing foreign relations, national security, and America's role in the world, conversations tend to drift towards words like might strength, weapons, sanctions, and capability. What if that clearly narcissistic approach was actually making international matters worse? And what if the...

  4. Robert Doar president of American Enterprise Institute on the principles that lead to the American dream of opportunity and upward mobility

    Many organizations have struggled in the midst of the pandemic. Think tanks and policy shops are the places where hallway conversations, events, and gatherings, are not just nice; they're absolutely necessary. Robert Doar, president of American Enterprise Institute (AEI) discusses how AEI is...

  5. True Criminal Justice Reform Begins with Accountability

    Politicians and pundits love to talk about criminal justice reform and important progress has and continues to be made to root out racism and bias in law enforcement and sentencing. But according to a group of former long time felons and drug addicts who have over 400 arrests between them and…

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  6. The Audacity of Abundant Creativity with Daniel Harmon

    In a day of cutthroat competition, scarcity mentality, and zero-sum thinking, one advertising agency is doing it differently. Harmon Brothers chief creative officer Daniel Harmon shares a behind-the-scenes look at the principles that drive their unprecedented success and how they shared those...

  7. Behind the Beginnings of "The Chosen"

    In a world that is starving for content that is fitting for children in our homes, VidAngel has played a critical role, but not always a successful role through failures through opposition and through connection. They're creating something that is sweeping the globe, ironically a series focused…

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  8. Behind the Headline: McKay Coppins from The Atlantic talks about his article on The Church of Jesus Chris of Latter-day Saints

    McKay Coppins, staff writer for The Atlantic, writes a front-page deep-dive feature on The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. He posits that for more than 200 years the church has tried to assimilate into America only to find the country in an identity crisis. Coppins takes a look at…

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  9. Room Here founders on improving mental fitness in the workplace

    Mental health struggles naturally spill into the workplace, especially in a pandemic, they affect job performance, engagement, communication abilities, and physical capabilities. All of these things impact businesses, individuals, families, and communities. One business is determined to take the...

  10. Transforming lives through higher education: BYU Pathway Worldwide President Clark Gilbert

    As many institutions of higher education are struggling with the impact of the pandemic and disruption to centuries-old education models, one institution, BYU Pathway Worldwide, is growing at an extraordinary pace, reaching over 50,000 students in 150 countries. Clark Gilbert, president of BYU...

  11. A Look at Mr Rogers' Legacy of Letters with Court Mann

    Texts, tweets, emails and social media messages drive our days. In the midst of a pandemic, more and more people are feeling disconnected, isolated and alone. Reconnecting and building meaningful relationships may only be one neighborhood away or one world famous neighbor away. Journalist Court...

  12. For the Right Reason

    In a cynical world where the motives of business and politicians are regularly called into question, is it possible to lead and live for all the right reasons? Learn 12 timeless principles for living a life of harmony with USANA CEO Kevin Guest on this special episode of "Therefore, What?"...

  13. Freedom from Politics

    Labor Day is typically the beginning of the fall political season. This year, one prominent political organization is challenging the nation to stop talking politics for 24 hours and instead celebrate America. Find out more on this episode of "Therefore, What?" See our website for privacy...

  14. Is America Broken - Dr. Jim White

    Our nation seems to be more fractured than ever before. The global pandemic has not served to unite Americans against a deadly common foe, the coronavirus, but instead we become further divided along political lines. Party lines, civil unrest and economic uncertainty have all created a broken...

  15. Moonshot Challenge: Our quest to quell the pandemic

    Over the past four months, Utahns, Americans and citizens around the world have attempted to deal with novel coronavirus. States and nations have struggled mightily with what to do, what government mandates were needed or necessary and how to get individuals and communities to take appropriate...

  16. The case for Religious Liberty around the World - Gayle Manchin

    Freedom of religion or belief is an expansive right. That includes the freedoms of thought, conscience, expression, association and assembly. In America, religious freedom is considered a first freedom. Yet it is not so around the world. And in many places, this core human right is the subject of...

  17. Essentialism: The disciplined pursuit of less with Greg McKeown

    Countless individuals feel overcommitted, overworked and overloaded. Many are exhausted by trying to do more. Guilt comparisons and attempting to have it all weigh heavy on hearts, minds and souls. Could the solution be found in doing less? The author of New York Times and Wall Street Journal...

  18. Cultivating generosity and making miracles with Rabbi Yehuda Gurwitz

    A global pandemic, civil unrest and economic uncertainty have swept the nation. Despite such challenges more people are giving more than ever before. Rabbi Yehuda Gurwitz, CEO of Charidy.com, is out to make the impossible possible by cultivating a spirit of generosity. Join us for an inspiring...

  19. Everyone needs a "Shark" and a Mentor - "Shark Tanks" Kevin Harrington

    Everyone at some point in their career needs a shark. Well, everyone needs a mentor to be sure. Kevin Harrington actually is both an original shark on the hit TV show "Shark Tank." Kevin knows what it takes to mentor entrepreneurs and individuals on the journey to excellence and ultimate success....

  20. Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich: Pandemic Lessons from Rome

    It has been said that ideas go booming through the world like cannons, thoughts are mightier than armies and principles have achieved more victories than horsemen or chariots. Inspiring ideas, transformational thoughts and powerful principles are exactly what America and the world need in the…

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  21. Lead from the Future with Mark Johnson

    Many individuals and organizations are hunkering down in the midst of the current coronavirus crisis and economic upheaval. The essential trait for leading a business, community or country through a crisis is vision. Author and business strategist Mark Johnson joins us to discuss his new book,...

  22. Astronaut Scott Kelly: Out of this world advice for our time

    The coronavirus pandemic has challenged global leaders and individual citizens on many levels. Focus, resilience, endurance and leadership are traits critical to survive and thrive in the midst of uncertainty. Astronaut Scott Kelly shares his strategies for navigating the extreme challenges of...

  23. BYU basketball coach Mark Pope: COVID-19, March Sadness and the only question that matters

    Coping with change, dealing with difficulties and creating a culture of excellence are critical leadership skills. BYU head basketball coach Mark Pope applies these principles for his players, the team's fans and for the community. Today he shares important lessons that transcend sports and apply...

  24. Does COVID-19 bring a 'new normal'? No way!

    The novel coronavirus has changed many things for many citizens around the world. But does COVID-19 bring with it a "new normal?" I say, “No way!” Join me for some perspective on where we are and what comes next on this special episode of “Therefore, What?” See our website for privacy information.

  25. The Power of Story: VeggieTale creator Phil Vischer

    Parenting has never been more challenging. Technology, social media and today’s mainstream culture are undermining morals and values while elevating narcissism and disbelief. It is increasingly difficult for children to learn the principles of character and the power of faith in a…

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  26. Back to the moon and on to Mars: NASA Administrator Jim Bridenstine

    America's space program has often captured the imagination of the nation and galvanized the country in a common goal. NASA is entering a new phase of exploration with new leadership. Jim Bridenstine is NASA's 13th administrator and joins us to share his vision of why exploring the galaxies still...

  27. Restoring Trust: Dr. David Miller

    Trust is at an all-time low. Trust in businesses, institutions, public leaders and even in individuals seem to be broken beyond repair. Dr. David Miller, director of the Princeton University Faith & Work Initiative, has searched the world's wisdom traditions for ways to repair trust. Join us for…

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  28. A History Lesson for the Future: Conversation with presidential historian Doris Kearns Goodwin

    Nothing is more vital in the midst of turbulent times than great leadership. Doris Kearns Goodwin has spent her career studying the lives of American presidents and gleaning the lessons from great historic figures. She is a world-renowned presidential historian, public speaker and Pulitzer...

  29. A New Heart: Paul Cardall

    It has been said that it's the space between the bars that holds the tiger. And it's the silence between the notes that makes the music. It is out of the silence, or "the gap," or that space between our thoughts, that everything is created — including our own bliss. Join me to explore that space…

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  30. Building high trust organizations: Jet Blue Chairman Joel Peterson

    The state of trust in America seems to be in freefall. Trust in government, big business and large institutions has unraveled. Distrust has begun to fray the fabric of society and erode trust in community, neighbors and even between individuals. True leaders recognize that a culture of trust is…

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  31. Is America worth celebrating?

    In a divisive and tumultuous time, is America still worth celebrating or emulating? See our website for privacy information.

  32. Influencer: How to drive, lead and let change

    Business, political and community leaders are constantly faced with the challenge of how to best impact the behavior of those they lead. Solving big issues for individuals, organizations and society as a whole requires more than strong-armed efforts to control behavior. World renowned author and...

  33. I'm recovered: Belief systems and behavior

    Addiction in all its forms is inflicting damage on individuals, families and communities in epidemic proportions. The scourge has been met with myriad methods, treatments and programs. Sadly, relapse is more common than recovery. Can changing the mental framing for current alcoholics or those...

  34. George Will: The Conservative Sensability

    Troubling trends are eroding the strength of the American family, trust in the institutions of government and confidence in America's future. George Will takes a look back while providing a critical look ahead in his new book, "The Conservative Sensibility." This is a clarion call for substantive...

  35. Choosing to climb

    Most of us will never attempt to scale Mount Everest or even the Matterhorn, but we all face mountains in our lives, real challenges that require real discipline and real skills. We'll talk about what it takes to climb the world's highest point with Greg Paul on this edition of "Therefore, What?"...

  36. Therefore, what drives Boyd Matheson?

    Every day, tens of thousands of Americans have access to words shared by Boyd Matheson. Some have his words delivered to their front porch or bookmarked on their web browser, others access him via his daily radio show while still others access him on-demand interviewing some of the nation's...

  37. Faith is not blind - Elder and Sister Hafen

    In a world of uncertainty, we often encounter unexpected questions and complexities that can challenge our faith. Faith in God, faith in ourselves and faith in the people around us can be undermined in the midst of such unexpected questions and complexities. Bruce and Marie Hafen join us to offer...

  38. Listening louder than you sing - Lessons from Tabernacle Choir Directors

    Music is a universal language which transcends culture and nationality. For more than a century, the Tabernacle Choir at Temple Square has used that language to influence millions around the world. The 360 voices, the orchestra, under the influence of two dynamic directors, demonstrate how a...

  39. Our Lost Declaration - Senator Mike Lee

    Abuses of federal power, including federal overreach and over-regulation, balance of power between the legislative and executive branches, along with issues within the judicial system are rampant. All the issues appear rooted in the neglect of the Declaration of Independence. Could rediscovering...

  40. Relentless: BYU Basketball Coach Mark Pope

    Coaching a Division I basketball program contains countless lessons for life and business. Building a culture of excellence, overcoming adversity, grittiness and determination, and even a broken chair during an interview provide important perspective and powerful principles. Mark Pope, the new…

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  41. The Second Mountain - David Brooks

    We live in a society that celebrates freedom and a selfie culture where self-interest and looking out for No. 1 is all that matters. America has taken rugged individualism to the extreme, and in the process, the social fabric of the country has been rent. Hatred, fragmentation and disconnection…

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  42. The Pursuit - with Arthur Brooks

    Divisive politicians, screaming heads on TV, angry campus activists, Twitter trolls. In America today there is an outrage industrial complex that prospers big time while setting Americans against each other. New York Times bestselling author and social scientist Arthur Brooks joins us to discuss...

  43. Sheri Dew: Insights from a Prophet's Life

    History is made of individual biographies. It is the work of the biographer to capture the principles that make that history possible. Sheri Dew is the Executive Vice President and Chief Content Officer of Deseret Management Corporation. She's a best-selling author and the biographer for three...

  44. Can innovation lift nations out of poverty?

    Global poverty is one of the world's most vexing problems. For decades, billions of dollars have been raised, donated and spent on poverty efforts with little long term-success or gains. Is there a better way to improve lives and sustain freedom and prosperity? The answer may be found in what is...

  45. Innovating Higher Education

    Higher education costs are soaring. Many students are leaving college buried in debt and ill-prepared to compete in a global economy. Elite schools seemed attainable only to the wealthy and the well-connected. Is there a better way to meet the needs of 21st-century students? Scott Pulsipher,...

  46. Fabric of character is the best investment

    America faces a multitude of challenges, including intergenerational poverty, an opioid epidemic, overcrowded prisons, the breakdown of nuclear families, capable yet unemployed men, political tribalism and the loss of institutions of civil society. Could character be the solution? When looking to...

  47. America's best days are ahead of us

    The American people are longing for leaders to fill the role of statesman and stateswoman. Sadly, leaders willing to put people and principles before party and politics are vanishing from view on the national stage. Former United States Sen. Joe Lieberman, a true statesman, shares his insight on...

  48. Alienated America

    People across the country believe the American dream is no longer attainable. Growing inequality, economic immobility, political strife, the national crisis of addiction, undermine the confidence of ordinary American every day. Could it be that the deterioration of the America dream is not the...

  49. Educating to uniqueness

    Public education remains a major concern for the vast majority of Americans. Some call for massive federal investments, others for strictly local control. Few recognize that what is truly needed is not the destruction of public education, but the transformation of public education. With an eye...

  50. Lessons from Ronald Reagan and his ranch

    Leadership is lacking in Washington and across the nation. Young people are drifting from the principles and values that have shaped America from its founding. Legacies born of big ideas, civil debate, open dialogue and American optimism seem to be fading from the public square and the collective...

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