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Think Outside The Fence

by Amy Hughes & Arron Nerbas

The musings of a Canadian, regenerative cattle rancher and a British lass who is all about the cows. Aiming to inspire positive change in agriculture, we chat to guests from across the globe to find out how their mindset has enabled them to do things a little differently to the benefit of their lives, businesses, communities and the environment. In a rapidly changing agricultural industry, is it time to think outside the fence?

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Episodes

  1. Systems Thinking, Not Sacrifice: Dr Vincent Walsh & Iain McDonell on the BioHub

    Aaron and Amy sit down with Dr Vincent Walsh and Ian McDonald to talk about the BioHub — a 92-acre upland farm in North Yorkshire that's proving you don't have to cut production to build a genuinely resilient landscape. Vincent explains how water, worms and a bit of joined-up thinking turned a...

  2. Steve Kenyon on Custom Grazing, Drought Banking, and the Ag Personality Trap.

    In this episode, we sit down with Albertan custom grazer, speaker, and self-described "nerd translator" Steve Kenyon of Greener Pastures Ranching. Operating on leased land just outside Edmonton, Steve completely flips the script on traditional farming economics. He breaks down the financials of…

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  3. Farming In Abundance - With Nic and Paul Renison

    In the conventional farming world, success is often measured by how hard you work and how many head of stock you carry. But what happens when that "scarcity mindset" leaves you exhausted and staring at a field of struggling sheep? In this episode, we sit down with Nic and Paul Renison to discuss...

  4. Decentralising the Dinner Plate: Shaking the Hand That Feeds You

    In this episode, we cross the border to the United States to sit down with two powerhouses behind a movement that is rattling the cages of the global food system. RS "Ruffshot" June, the Creative Strategist for the Beef Initiative, and Shannon Ebersol (Ranch Mama), a veteran regenerative rancher,...

  5. Turning the Tables. The Unspoken Side of Agriculture with Amy Hughes

    "The greatest asset on any farm is the people. It is not the machinery, it's not the livestock, it is the people." In this special episode, co-host Amy Hughes swaps roles to share how she is challenging conventional thinking in agriculture with her new business, EmpowerAg. Joined by guest co-host...

  6. Thinking With the Fence: The Range Ward Solution

    Welcome to the Season 3 premiere of "Think Outside the Fence"! We are kicking off this season by introducing our new sponsor, Range Ward Canada, in a special episode that perfectly matches our show's name. This is our first-ever four-person podcast, featuring two special guests. First, we're…

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  7. Beyond the Echo Chamber with Silas Hedley-Lawrence

    Silas is a farmer, coach, and consultant with hands-on experience in regenerative agriculture. He divides his time between the Cotswold Cattle Company, his co-owned food and farming venture, and Grass Fed Farmer, his agroecological coaching business. With a background rooted in both the UK and…

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  8. From Soil to Sneaker - The Whole Cow Story with Andy Rumming

    Welcome to this episode of Think Outside the Fence, where we're joined by Andy Rumming, a visionary beef farmer from Wiltshire, England. Andy shares his incredible journey in modern agriculture, focusing on adding value in a regenerative and holistic way. Key Discussion Points: Maximising Value…

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  9. From Farm Gate to Future: Navigating Succession with Patti Durand

    In this episode, we chat to Patti Durand from Bright Track Consulting. Patti talks us through her background in agriculture, her work with farm families, and her transition to consulting and authorship with her book "The Future Leader - The Successor's Guide to Family Business Leadership," which...

  10. The Da Byw discussions - Profit driven pasture with Rhys Williams

    This month we chat to Rhys Williams. A farmer, consultant and founder and organiser of Da Byw, the sustainable livestock farming conference. We cover the dos and don'ts of a joint venture, regenerative sheep businesses (yes, sheep!), and the lineup for this year's Da Byw conference in North…

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  11. Cultivating Change: Brian Harper on Regenerative Farming, Family Succession, and Grass Grazing

    Our first in-person interview, recorded at the MFGA Regenerative Ag conference in Brandon, Manitoba! In this episode, we have a lively conversation with Brian Harper, a professional land manager and cow-calf producer from Brandon, Manitoba. This interview explores Brian's farm operations, his...

  12. Covers & Co. - Connecting Farmers To Soil Health

    We have a new sponsor for season 2 of Think Outside The Fence! Thank you to Covers & Co for their support. In this episode we speak to Joe Gardiner, Agronomy and Research manager at Covers & Co, to find out more about where it all started, what the team are trying to achieve with their work and…

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  13. The Review…Open Minds - Open Opportunities

    Happy New Year everyone! Here's our coverage of the MFGA 2024 Regen Ag conference in Brandon, Manitoba. We both attended the conference and thought it was great - all of the speakers were engageing, interesting and relevant. Thanks to our sponsors, MFGA, for having us and for organising and…

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  14. Chagyu Right - Every Time.

    Welcome to episode 2 of the new season! We're bucking the trend this month with our wonderful guest, Ben Harman. Ben is a beef farmer from Buckinghamshire, England, who is very specific about his meat... This episode really is all about the cows! We chat breeding, meat quality, marketing and...

  15. Open Minds - Open Opportunities

    Welcome to this special episode, with our sponsors, Manitoba Forage and Grassland Association. The MFGA Regenerative Ag conference is coming up folks! This year's theme is 'open minds - open opportuities' and the committee have put together a great line up for you all. In this podvertorial…

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  16. All Behaviour Is Intentional

    We have a seriously special guest to kick off season 2... David Irvine! David has more than 40 years experience as a family therapist, workshop facilitator, lecturer and advisor. Raised in rural central Alberta, David is no stranger to farming and the people that go with it. His work with…

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  17. Not a year in review...because that's boring.

    We made it! Think Outside The Fence is 1 year old! In this episode, Arron and Amy take a look back at their guests over the last year and put their own spin on things. Giving their thoughts on the conversations and ideas for the future. Thanks as always to our sponsors, Manitoba Forage and...

  18. A Plant Based Diet

    Marking 1 whole year of Think Outside The Fence...here it is! Episode 12! In this episode we speak to Lucy Williamson. Lucy is a vet turned award winning, human nutritionist. With over 30 years experience in health, food and farming, she's part of a passionate community of health professional and...

  19. Making Connection The Norm

    It's time for episode 11! Join us as we chat to Helen Wyman, Nuffield Scholar and founder of Cultivate Success, an agricultural mentorship programme in the UK. We talk through what mentorship actually is, what it can do for people in Ag and how making connections can battle loneliness and breed...

  20. Embracing Change

    A little 'bonus' episode for you all - Amy's "Embracing Change" talk from the Holistic Management Canada conference in Valleyview, Alberta earlier this year. We put this talk on our YouTube channel with the slides, but we've had reports of YouTube not playing nice with some of our listeners and...

  21. Who will fill your boots?

    Welcome to episode 9! This month we interview Duane Thompson of the Tee Two Land & Cattle Co. from Kelliher, Saskatchewan. Duane and his family operate an integrated mixed farm, with an emphasis being stewards of the land while ensuring the long term viability of their farm business. We dive into...

  22. Discover. Adapt. Connect - learnings from the Holistic Management Canada conference

    This March episode is a mid month release and a very special feature episode! In early February, Think Outside the Fence podcast was invited to join the Holistic Management Canada annual conference as MCs and presenters. Amy made the trip from the UK to join Arron in Valleyview, Alberta for the...

  23. The 24/7 Butchery

    Very exciting episode! The first international guest that is not from either Canada or the UK. In episode 7 we welcome all the way from the land down under, Jacob Wolki. Jacob has a strong online presence due to his straight forward approach and his way of challenging traditional thinking. Jacob…

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  24. Do One Thing

    It's officially the start of 2024. What a great time to reflect on our personal well being, both mental and physical. Our special guest for episode 6 is Lewellyn Melnyk who is from the same home town as Arron in Manitoba. She is self described as an Author, Farmer & Mental Health Advocate…

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  25. The Maverick Maker

    Here it is, episode number 5 - the one where Amy got too excited and didn't let Arron get a word in edgeways (sorry, Arron!) In this episode we speak to Carol Glover "The Maverick Maker" Carol is a Ginger, Punk Inspired Maverick, Senior Leadership & Team Coach & Mentor, Intrapreneur and Edutainer...

  26. A Sanctuary For Free Thinkers

    Wow, it's already episode 4! Joining us from Eastern Canada is Brian Maloney of Ferme Brylee. Brian operates a beef and sheep farm with a direct to consumer shop in Quebec, along side his wife Lise and his daughter Kim. Brian is a self admitted "Free Thinker", and regularly puts out his own…

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  27. You Only Live Once

    In episode 3 we speak to Heather Wildman of Saviour Associates in Scotland. Heather is a firecracker of a woman with a no-nonsense attitude towards change. If you want something, make it happen. We chat about her work with farming families across the UK and the mindset that has helped her…

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  28. A Lifetime Of Learning

    Here it is! Episode 2 of Think Outside The Fence. On this one we welcome Holistic Rancher and Educator, Don Campbell. Don along with his wife, 2 sons and their families operate the B-C ranch in Meadow Lake, Saskatchewan. Don has been instrumental in bringing Holistic Management to prominence in...

  29. The Need To Farm

    Welcome to the first 'proper' episode of Think Outside The Fence! In this episode we chat to Michael Blanche, farmer and podcast royalty in the UK. Michael is a first generation farmer in Scotland and the host of the Pasture Pod podcast. We chat about the mindset needed to get into farming as a…

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  30. What is this all about?

    Here it is! The pilot episode of Think Outside The Fence podcast. Arron and Amy give you a little insight into themselves, where it all started, what they hope to achieve and a glimpse at the kinds of topics they'll be covering and the guests they'll be chatting to. Huge shout out to Emerson…

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ABOUT THIS SHOW

The musings of a Canadian, regenerative cattle rancher and a British lass who is all about the cows. Aiming to inspire positive change in agriculture, we chat to guests from across the globe to find out how their mindset has enabled them to do things a little differently to the benefit of their lives, businesses, communities and the environment. In a rapidly changing agricultural industry, is it time to think outside the fence?

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Amy Hughes & Arron Nerbas

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