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Thinkydoers®
by Sara Lobkovich
Thinkydoers®, hosted by Strategy Rebel and OKR Coach Sara Lobkovich, is a community for unconventional leaders, status-quo challengers, and workplace “square pegs.” Thinkydoers are individuals who navigate the journey from insight to idea, through the messy middle, seeking courage and confidence to bring their visions to life.Thinkydoers are a diverse group. We're disproportionately (but not exclusively) introverted and/or neurodivergent, and regardless of personality or cognitive wiring, Thinkydoers are strategic thinkers often underserved and misunderstood in traditional business cultures. Whether you’re a leader, an aspiring leader, or a behind-the-scenes “clutch player,” Thinkydoers aims to help you find more satisfaction, less frustration, and greater flow in your work.Learn to unlock your inner strategist with No-BS OKRs. Then, explore topics way beyond goal-setting, including strategy, behavior change, cognitive health, and motivation. Our guest episodes feature a wide range o
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Ep 50 - Media Visibility and Entrepreneurship for Introverts and Neurodivergent Folks
What if your different wiring isn't something to overcome—it's the foundation for building a business that actually works for you? For years, many neurodivergent professionals have spent enormous energy trying to decode unspoken workplace expectations, masking their natural tendencies, and...
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Ep 49 - BS-Free Business: Why Simple and Sustainable Wins
Tired of building your business or career for the "fantasy version" of yourself? You're not alone. Many of us leave corporate environments that don't fit our neurodivergent, introverted, or strategically-wired brains, only to recreate the same extractive patterns in our own businesses. But what…
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Ep 48 - Leading Leaders Toward Masterpiece Creation: Translating Your Moral Vision into Business Reality Through Masterpiece Leadership
What if the critics and naysayers aren't a problem—but proof you're finally changing something that matters? Charles Spinosa spent decades as both a Shakespeare professor and management consultant, giving him a unique lens on what separates true leadership from good management. His approach isn't...
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Ep 47 - Beyond The Binary and Queering Goal Setting
What if everything you've been taught about goal setting is actually working against you? What if the rigid structure of SMART goals is crushing your creativity, disconnecting you from your body, and forcing you into a binary that simply doesn't fit who you are? Today's guest, Zephyr (Zeph)...
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Ep 46 - Breathwork for Busy Brains: Another Novel Path to Mindfulness
Ever feel like your brain just won’t quit, and traditional meditation only makes it worse? Thinkydoers host Sara Lobkovich gets it. She lives mostly in her head, and practices like meditation or breathwork have often felt out of reach. They seemed like they were designed for people who are...
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Ep 45 - Q2 2025 OKR Forecast Part 2: Flexibility, Timing, and Hot Takes with Three Trusted OKR Experts
The OKR Trio is back with Part 2 of their brutally honest Q2 2025 forecast, and they're not holding back. Sara Lobkovich, Maria Rowcliffe, and Natalie Webb tackle the questions you've been asking about rigid vs. flexible OKR approaches, timing models that actually work, and trends we’re seeing in...
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Ep 44 - Q2 2025 OKR Forecast: Generative AI, Localization, and Retrospectives with a Panel of OKR Experts
Ever wonder what's really happening in the OKR world beyond the hype? Join Sara Lobkovich, Maria Rowcliffe, and Natalie Webb for a candid, no-BS look at where OKRs are heading in 2025. This isn't your typical "here's how to write an objective" conversation. Instead, you'll get insider insights…
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Ep 43 - Building Inclusive Communities: Finding Connection Without Social Anxiety
In a world that celebrates the loudest voices and the biggest followings, what if quiet spaces are where real belonging begins? In this deeply personal and connected conversation, Sara Lobkovich sits down with community strategist Carrie Melissa Jones to explore the surprising power of “quiet...
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Ep 42 - Strategy During Chaos: Adaptive Leadership For Unprecedented Times
Are you struggling to maintain strategic focus in today's unpredictable environment? In this lo-fi, candid episode, Sara shares her insights on navigating strategic planning during persistent uncertainty. Whether you're impacted by shifting tariffs, changes in public funding, or volatile market...
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Ep 41 - Overcoming Perfectionism with Self-Development Coaching with Jessica Manca
In this episode of Thinkydoers, host Sara Lobkovich welcomes self-development and executive career coach Jessica Manca to discuss perfectionism, overthinking, and intrinsic motivation. Jessica shares her journey from management consultant to coach and offers practical tools for overcoming…
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Ep 40 - Beyond Soundbites: From Case Studies To Client Stories
Self-promotion can feel uncomfortable—especially for introverted, thoughtful, or reserved Thinkydoers. But what if sharing your impact didn’t have to feel like cringey “bragging?” In this episode, client experience copywriter and founder of The Content Witches, Nailah King, joins host Sara...
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Ep 39 - Generative AI: Practical Strategies for Thinkydoers with Guest Dvorah Graeser
AI is transforming the way we work—but how can Thinkydoers use generative AI responsively and productively—as a tool, not a time-suck? In part two of our conversation with AI ethicist and strategist Dvorah Graeser, we get practical about leveraging AI tools, particularly for deep specialists and...
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Ep 38 - Generative AI and the Future of Work for Thinkydoers
Are you wrestling with ethical questions about AI while also feeling curious about its potential? In this thought-provoking episode, Sara welcomes Dvorah Graeser, an "old internet" technologist who brings a unique perspective on AI democratization. From programming for the Human Genome Project to...
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Ep 37 - OKR Forecast 2025: Insights From The Experts
What’s next for OKRs in 2025? As goal-setting evolves, organizations are rethinking their approach to strategy, execution, and performance. In this episode, Sara sits down with OKR experts Natalie Webb and Maria Rowcliffe to unpack the latest trends—from the role of generative AI to the shifting...
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Ep 36 - Can EOS and OKRs Work Together? Bridging Vision and Execution With Expert Jessica Lee
What happens when two powerhouse frameworks collide? In this episode, Sara dives into a fascinating conversation with Jessica Lee, exploring the dynamic intersection of EOS® (Entrepreneurial Operating System®) and OKRs (Objectives and Key Results) in business management. As both an EOS integrator...
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Ep 35 - SMART Goals vs. KPIs vs. OKRs: What's the Difference?
Ever feel lost in the alphabet soup of goal-setting frameworks? Whether you're a leader, a coach, or a goal-setting enthusiast, navigating between SMART goals, KPIs, OKRs, and other frameworks can feel overwhelming. In this episode, Sara Lobkovich – strategist, OKR coach, and nationally...
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Ep 34: Why You Shouldn't Start with an OKR Tool (Yet)
Thinking about implementing OKRs? Your first instinct might be to shop for an OKR tool - but that could be setting yourself up for failure. In this candid Thinkydoers Short, strategy coach Sara Lobkovich explains why starting with software often backfires, and shares a proven alternative with a...
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Ep 33 - Sneak Peek of My Upcoming Book: You Are A Strategist (not just an OKRs book)
Ever feel like you're speaking a different language than your colleagues when presenting your ideas? Or, like a square peg in your work? Do you feel like you're trying to read minds to understand what's expected of you, while your co-workers are just humming along doing their work? Or, do you…
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Ep 32 - Executing Under Pressure: High Stakes, High Performance, With Pro Racer and Firefighter Jayson Uribe
What does it take to perform at the absolute limit, every time you show up to work? How do you navigate your own chemisty, and both objective and perceived risk when lives are actually on the line? Find out in this conversation with professional motorcycle road racer, firefighter, and business...
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Ep 31 - Speed, Strategy, and Staying Unblocked: Leadership Lessons from Pro Motorsports & Beyond
What can business leaders learn from the high-stakes world of professional motorsports? Find out, in this conversation between Thinkydoers host Sara Lobkovich (whose "other life" is in professional motorcycle road racing) and organizational change expert Jurriaan Kamer, co-author of "Formula X…
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Ep 30 - Getting Unstuck: Don't Go It Alone (Part 2 with Dr. Sherlonda Adkins)
Feeling stuck but unsure how to get help? You're not alone - and this episode is for you. In part two of my powerful conversation with Dr. Sherlonda Adkins, we explore why the journey to getting unstuck shouldn't be a solo endeavor. Learn why it takes most people 10 years to seek professional…
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Feeling Stuck: Signs and Symptoms Not to Ignore (Part 1 with Dr. Sherlonda Adkins)
Ever felt "off" but couldn't quite name it? Did it feel like you were "stuck?" What if that feeling of being "stuck" is actually trying to tell you something important? In this illuminating conversation with Dr. Sherlonda Adkins, a Physician Assistant and "Unstuck Strategist," we explore how...
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Mindfulness for Overthinkers and Perfectionists with Dr. Alice Rizzi
Are you an overthinker who can't seem to quiet your mind? A perfectionist struggling to find peace in a chaotic world? This episode is your lifeline. Dr. Alice Rizzi, a licensed psychologist and mindfulness coach, breaks down the myths about mindfulness and offers practical, accessible techniques...
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October Theory: Gen-Z Discovers Quarterly Planning (and the Olds can learn a thing or two)
Is October the new January? Gen Z thinks so, and they might be onto something. In this Thinkydoers Short, I dive into the viral TikTok trend of "October Theory" and explore how it intersects with established business practices like quarterly planning and OKRs (Objectives and Key Results). Whether...
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Play as Mindfulness Practice with Chief Play Officer TJ Matton
Want to incorporate more play into your world? You’re in the right place! Play isn’t just for kids. It’s a biological necessity that can transform your mental well-being and even help manage mental health symptoms like hypervigilance and anxiety. And we’re lucky to have play expert TJ Matton back...
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The Science of Play with TJ Matton
Are you ready to rethink everything you think you know about play? Want to learn more about the science of play as a powerful tool for personal growth and well-being? This week’s guest, TJ Matton, founder and chief play officer of the Playful Revolution, joins me to dive deep into the science and...
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Product Engineer to CEO: Sten Pittet, A Thinkydoers Career Profile
Have you ever thought about a career in product -- whether product management, product development, or product engineering? You'll enjoy this conversation with Sten Pittet, CEO of Tability. In our last episode, Sten interviewed Thinkydoers host Sara about her journey into OKRs; today, we flipped...
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OKR Expert Interview: Sten Pittet Turns the Tables on Sara To Talk No-BS OKRs
This is a bit unconventional ... but today, the host of Thinkydoers is the guest! Please welcome Sten Pittet, Co-Founder and CEO of Tability, a collaboration platform for outcome-driven teams, as this week’s Guest Host of Thinkydoers … with OKR Coach and creator of No-BS OKRs (and Thinkydoer’s...
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Self-Leadership for Individual Contributors, with Sally Ivester
Are you an early- or mid-career individual contributor, curious about how to showcase your contributions and gain the recognition your work deserves? This week's guest, Sally Ivester, brings us a fresh perspective on architecting your own career successfulness -- without trying to be someone…
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Cracking the OKR Code: A virtual consultation with an OKR Coach
I know the first meeting with an Objectives and Key Results coach can be intimidating. Last week, I started building a virtual consult experience through my website and other technologies, because I know a lot of people want to learn more about working with an Objectives and Key Results coach or...
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News Recap: "You Are A Strategist" Book Cover Reveal, Free OKR Coaching, and No-BS OKR Coach Training!
In this Thinkydoers short, I'm sharing a few exciting updates from Red Currant Collective. For one, we just revealed the covers for my two upcoming books: the "No-BS OKRs Workbook" and "You Are A Strategist: Use No-BS Objectives and Key Results to Get Big Things Done." The Workbook, set to print…
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How to Suck Less As A Manager, with Ben Arendt
Want to suck less as a manager? Or, do you work with a manager who sucks? Either way, you are NOT alone. Many managers struggle to become good at the difficult job of management: whether it stems from insufficient self-awareness, ineffective communication skills, or a lack of necessary tools, Ben...
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Real People, Real Stories: OKR Coach and Specialist Jason Johnston (Part 2)
How do you find balance as a Thinkydoer with a busy, curious, learning-focused brain? Today, we explore this question (and more) as I continue my insightful conversation with Jason Johnston, OKR Practice Lead at Genetec. (If you missed Part 1, pop back to Episode 17 and then come back here…
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Meet an OKR Coach: Jason Johnston (Part One)
Establishing clear objectives and key results (OKRs) isn't just about direction and accountability. It’s about driving real change within organizations. Today’s episode kicks off our two-part conversation with the delightful Jason Johnston, OKR Practice Lead for Genetec, a technology company in…
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Creating Leading Indicators in High-Stakes Settings with Elena Chopyak
One of the most challenging things for people to wrap their heads around when learning to create No-BS OKRs is the power of progress key results, otherwise known as leading indicators. But leading indicators serve as critical data that may give you objective data on which to assess your progress,...
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Prepare for Q2 with Sara Lobkovich and No-BS OKRs
Are you ready to create big, bold goals for Q2 and beyond, and achieve remarkable results? In this Thinkydoers Short, I'm sharing a slew of resources to help you get ready for Q2 -- whether you have a budget or not, and whether you are excited to get visionary and curious and plan your Q2, or are...
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Stress and Resilience with Dat Tran
The long-term stress sustained during and since the COVID-19 pandemic continues to have a serious impact on our collective wellbeing. The American Psychological Association’s annual “Stress in America” report this year shared that “APA psychologists widely agreed there is mounting evidence that…
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OKRs in Context: Do OKRs co-exist with other methodologies?
One of the first jobs to be done when implementing (or rebooting) OKRs is to identify how they fit into an organization’s existing planning “stack” and get clear about what job they’re being hired to do. This episode is based on chapter three of Sara Lobkovich’s upcoming book, The Evolutionary…
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Playbook Chapter Two - What are Objectives and Key Results OKRs
We're excited to share Chapter Two of our work-in-progress Evolutionary OKRs Playbook with you. This chapter re-introduces Objectives and Key Results for people who may be less familiar with traditional approaches, and then shifts into the unique elements of the Evolutionary OKR model (which…
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The Evolutionary OKRs Playbook Chapter One: How did we get here?
After years of writing alone and then sharing my work on the Evolutionary OKRs Playbook with (wonderful, patient) beta readers, with this rewrite I’m doing something different. It’s time to write (and read) in public. Certain chapters of the book are being shared via our email newsletter first;...
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When "OKRs Don't Work"
Fun fact: While I am an OKR activist, I'm not an OKR dogmatist. If OKRs "aren't working" in your organization, I'll be the first to support your decision to change course to an approach that works better for your organization. Frequently, though, I see organizations reach a stage where they're...
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KPIs vs. OKRs: What's the difference between KPIs and Key Results?
What's the difference between a KPI and an OKR? And specifically, what's the difference between a KPI and a Key Result? Here's a simple answer, with examples, to help make this concept easy to understand. You’ll find out what defines KPIs, KRs, stretch goals, and commits, what they mean, how they...
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Introducing Evolutionary OKRs
Today, we take a step back and answer the obvious question: what are Evolutionary Objectives and Key Results (OKRs) and why are they important? OKRs are a method for setting collaborative, objectively measurable goals made popular by the book Measure What Matters, which creates enormous…
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Architecting Change: Rethinking the role of goals in achieving necessary change
We talk a lot around here about Objectives and Key Results (OKRs), and in this episode, we dive into an adjacent topic: the role that goal setting can play in making a case for and achieving important change in our organizations. The audio for this episode is from a LinkedIn Live that I hosted...
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Now waitlisting: No BS OKRs short course
We're closing enrollment on Friday for next week's Coaching Evolutionary OKRs course, so if you're looking for OKR Coach training before the end of the year, act quickly (or drop me a note, and I'll let you know when we plan our next cohort). And if a short course is more your style, that's…
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The Goal-ification of OKRs
When the book Measure What Matters was published in 2018, it created a lot of excitement about Objectives and Key Results, or OKRs. Unfortunately, the book provided little practical information about implementing them, and many organizations have struggled to actually make OKRs work in the wild....
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What we can learn during the annual goals "silly season"
This time of year is called the "silly season" in motorsports because we're in the literal middle of our racing season AND we're all already operating in the 2023 season: planning partnerships, talent moves, and logistics for the year we won't start for another six months. Every summer I see...
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Replacing "managing up" with a culture of self-management
In our last episode, our host Sara Lobkovich took the antiquated concept of "managing up" to task. This episode is part two in this two-part series, where we dive into why and how organizations can replace "managing up" with building a culture of self-management. With norms established around...
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The downsides of "managing up"
This is the first in a two-part series about why we work with clients to uncover and unlearn the behavior of "managing up," and replace it with a culture of self-management. It IS necessary to carefully and intentionally manage our relationships at work (up, down, and across), but the way…
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Are your goals for the new year on track?
By this point in the year -- 1/3 of the way through Q1 -- many of us have already abandoned any New Years Resolutions we set -- and in our work lives, we may still be digging out from year-end, having missed a month of achievement toward our 2022 goals. We're not going to start with goal-setting...
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Thinkydoers®, hosted by Strategy Rebel and OKR Coach Sara Lobkovich, is a community for unconventional leaders, status-quo challengers, and workplace “square pegs.” Thinkydoers are individuals who navigate the journey from insight to idea, through the messy middle, seeking courage and confidence to bring their visions to life.Thinkydoers are a diverse group. We're disproportionately (but not exclusively) introverted and/or neurodivergent, and regardless of personality or cognitive wiring, Thinkydoers are strategic thinkers often underserved and misunderstood in traditional business cultures. Whether you’re a leader, an aspiring leader, or a behind-the-scenes “clutch player,” Thinkydoers aims to help you find more satisfaction, less frustration, and greater flow in your work.Learn to unlock your inner strategist with No-BS OKRs. Then, explore topics way beyond goal-setting, including strategy, behavior change, cognitive health, and motivation. Our guest episodes feature a wide range o
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