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Third Sector
by Third Sector
A weekly podcast from Third Sector, the UK’s leading publication for everyone who needs to know what’s going on in the voluntary and not-for-profit sector. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Episodes
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How important is the return on investment metric in fundraising?
Emily Burt and Andy Ricketts hear from the fundraising specialist Caroline Richardson and Paul Courtney, director of fundraising at Children’s Hospice South West. Caroline and Paul discuss how ROI is used in fundraising, and the importance of treating the measurement as one data point in a wider...
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Professionalising the fundraising sector
Senior reporter Emily Harle is joined by Katie Docherty, chief executive of the Chartered Institute of Fundraising. She talks about the significant developments in fundraising over the past five years, the evolution of CIoF’s flagship conference and the need for chief executives and sector…
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What can Black feminist leadership teach the charity sector?
Third Sector editor Emily Burt and senior multimedia reporter Lucinda Rouse are joined by Jules Lynch, founder and chief executive of the Global Girl project. Jules discusses how leading with Black feminist principles empowers her charity to take a collaborative and trust-based approach to...
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Grantmaking, working with government and encouraging volunteering
Matt Hyde, chief executive of the Lloyds Bank Foundation for England and Wales, talks to Third Sector deputy editor Andy Ricketts about volunteering, working with government and the grantmaker's new strategy. Matt discusses the foundation's ambition to ensure everyone in England and Wales is…
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The side effects of the Ice Bucket Challenge on the MND Association
Third Sector editor Emily Burt and senior multimedia reporter Lucinda Rouse are joined by Tanya Curry, chief executive of the MND Association. Tanya recalls how the MND Association was thrust into the limelight thanks to the Ice Bucket Challenge social media phenomenon in the summer of 2014. She...
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Commission critical, Burnham’s DCMS reshuffle and CAF Bank chaos
Host Emily Burt is joined by Third Sector colleagues Andy Ricketts and Emily Harle to talk about three significant sector stories from the past month. Andy recounts an “embarrassing misstep” for the Charity Commission, after the regulator was found to have committed a contempt of parliament in...
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Why every charity should be thinking about operational research
Editor Emily Burt and deputy editor Andy Ricketts are joined by Dr Colette Fletcher, executive director of the Operational Research Society, and Rebecca Goldring, performance and partnership area manager at Porchlight. Colette discusses the history of operational research and its current function...
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How local infrastructure drives a resilient voluntary sector
Editor Emily Burt and senior reporter Emily Harle are joined by Maddy Desforges, chief executive of the local infrastructure membership body Navca. They discuss the challenges around funding infrastructure organisations, working with local government and the risks that can come with a broad...
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How Black Minds Matter UK is future-proofing its work
Editor Emily Burt and reporter Dami Adewale are joined by Danielle Bridge, chief executive of Black Minds Matter UK. They discuss BMMUK’s ‘back-to-front’ journey, from a crowdfunded project that received £1.5m in its first six months of existence to a charity that must become sustainable in a…
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Civil society post-Starmer, charity retail stocktake and the City & Guilds saga
Lucinda Rouse is joined by Emily Burt, Dami Adewale and Andy Ricketts to talk about three significant sector stories from the past month. Emily considers the likely consequences for the Civil Society Covenant of Sir Keir Starmer’s resignation as Prime Minister and Labour Party leader, and the...
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Third Sector conference snapshot
Lucinda Rouse hears from some of the speakers at Third Sector’s annual conference, which was held at the Royal Society of Medicine’s 1 Wimpole Street in London on 23 and 24 June. They are: Simon Blake, chief executive of Stonewall; Fadi Itani, chief executive of the Muslim Charities Forum; Kate...
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How to solve friction between comms and fundraising teams
Lucinda Rouse and Emily Harle are joined by Max Newton (he/him), director of fundraising, marketing and communications at Cerebra, and the digital communications and fundraising specialist Rebs Curtis-Moss (they/them). Rebs outlines the common causes of friction between a charity’s communications...
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Charities and Reddit
Lucinda Rouse and Emily Harle are joined by the communications and community engagement specialist Jayne Cravens to discuss the opportunities for charities on the social media platform Reddit. Jayne describes the different ways charities can make use of the site, from promoting events to…
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A perspective on being a Jewish charity leader in 2026
Lucinda Rouse and Emily Burt are joined by Jo Grose, chief executive of the United Synagogue, to discuss how her charity’s operations have been affected by recent attacks on the UK Jewish community. Jo shares some of the operational adjustments made by the United Synagogue to protect staff,...
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Reflections on CIoF’s final Fundraising Convention
Lucinda Rouse is joined by Andy Ricketts and Emily Harle to discuss their highlights from the final edition of the Chartered Institute of Fundraising’s Fundraising Convention, which took place in London on 4 and 5 June. Emily chooses a panel discussion that focussed on the need to break down…
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How to collect the data you need for impact reporting
Lucinda Rouse and Dami Adewale are joined by Sarah Derbyshire, chief executive of the orchestral music charity Orchestras Live, to discuss the organisation’s path to data maturity. Sarah explains the importance of having data systems that are designed to show the stories behind the numbers, and…
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How Stonewall’s chief is navigating turbulence
Lucinda Rouse and Emily Harle discuss snippets from a recent interview Emily conducted with Simon Blake, chief executive of Stonewall. Simon explains how the LGBT rights charity has refined its clarity of purpose with a renewed focus on advocacy, stressing the importance of closed-door meetings...
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Lawfare, trustee whistleblowing and how Reform UK could affect the voluntary sector
Lucinda Rouse is joined by Third Sector colleagues Emily Harle, Dami Adewale and Andy Ricketts to talk about three significant sector stories from the past month. Emily describes recent cases of so-called “lawfare” affecting Scope and the 10,000 Interns Foundation, both of which have been...
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What the RHS Chelsea Flower Show’s charity gardens can teach us about philanthropy
Lucinda Rouse visits the RHS Chelsea Flower Show as grantmaker Project Giving Back marks its fifth and final year of supporting “gardens for good causes” at the event. She hears from PGB chief executive Hattie Ghaui about how its approach has encouraged participating charities to experiment and...
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Why it’s important to ‘meet people where they are’ to encourage behaviour change
Lucinda Rouse and Emily Harle are joined by Andy Glyde, strategy and insight lead at Bowel Cancer UK, and Phillipa Williams, strategy director at the behaviour change and communications agency Claremont. Andy describes the development process for Bowel Cancer UK’s recent campaign to encourage…
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How to undertake meaningful anti-racism work
Lucinda Rouse and Emily Burt are joined by Joy Warmington, chief executive of the equality charity Brap. Joy highlights some of the limitations of standard equity, diversity and inclusion approaches and explains why adopting a flexible and responsive mindset is preferable to following an EDI...
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Feminist leadership, conflicts of interest and a legacy boom
Host Lucinda Rouse is joined by Third Sector colleagues Emily Burt, Andy Ricketts and Emily Harle to talk about three significant sector stories from the past month. Emily Harle shares her reflections from an event run by the Women in Charity Network, including the need for female leaders to make...
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How the British Heart Foundation is tackling a disease of inequality
Lucinda Rouse and Emily Harle are joined by Charmaine Griffiths, chief executive of the British Heart Foundation. Charmaine outlines the BHF’s new commitments on equality, diversity and inclusion and explains why they are important in furthering the charity’s mission to fight heart disease. She...
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Why Coram has absorbed four charities in a year
Lucinda Rouse and Emily Harle discuss snippets from a recent interview Emily conducted with Carol Homden, chief executive of the children’s charity Coram. Carol explains the rationale behind the Coram Group’s recent amalgamation with four charities while avoiding duplication and competing...
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Why fundraising should be everybody’s business
Lucinda Rouse and Andy Ricketts are joined by Rebecca Fell, chief executive of the refugee support charity the International Care Network, and the fundraising specialist Atul Kumar. Atul puts forward the case for why project managers should play a part in funding bids. He shares his tips on how…
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Partnering with peers to get through tough times
Lucinda Rouse and Dami Adewale are joined by Saskia Lightburn-Ritchie, chief executive of the domestic abuse support charity MyCWA. Saskia recounts how a long-standing commitment to partnership and collaboration, which forms one of the charity’s three key missions, strengthened its ability to...
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Small charity infrastructure, donation decline and an AI fundraising experiment
Lucinda Rouse is joined by Third Sector colleagues Emily Burt and Emily Harle to reflect on three significant sector stories from the past month. Emily Burt shares her perspective on concerns raised by small charity representatives following the news of a restructure at the National Council for...
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Crisis chief on becoming a landlord and why charitable status may lack appeal
Lucinda Rouse and Emily Harle discuss snippets from a recent interview Emily conducted with Matt Downie, chief executive of the homelessness charity Crisis. Matt provides insight into Crisis’ plan to buy a thousand homes in the next decade and become a landlord for people experiencing…
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How to approach safeguarding concerns
**Content warning: This episode contains references to suicide and sexual abuse** Lucinda Rouse and Dami Adewale are joined by safeguarding specialist Joanna Nicolas and Sebastian Rocca, founder and chief executive of the LGBTQI refugee support organisation Micro Rainbow. Joanna identifies some…
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How to build new income streams and secure board buy-in for left-field ideas
Lucinda Rouse and Emily Harle are joined by Stephen Roberts, chief executive of North Devon Hospice, to discuss the organisation’s response to some of the challenges facing the hospice sector. Stephen explains why the charity is aiming to reduce its dependence on legacies and how it encourages...
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How to scale your impact when local authority funding shrinks
Lucinda Rouse and Emily Burt are joined by Emma Turner, chief executive of Mind in Croydon. Emma lays bare the operational realities of meeting soaring service demand in the face of cuts to local authority and integrated care system budgets, which form the bulk of Mind in Croydon’s income. She...
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Remembering an HIV charity pioneer
Lucinda Rouse and Emily Burt are joined by Richard Angell, chief executive of the Terrence Higgins Trust, and Rupert Whitaker, psychiatrist, immunologist and co-founder of the charity. They discuss the legacy of fellow co-founder Martyn Butler, who died on 21 February, remembering the use of his...
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Schrödinger’s air ambulance, AI summaries and unions for charity workers
Host Lucinda Rouse is joined by Third Sector colleagues Emily Burt, Emily Harle and Andy Ricketts to reflect on three significant sector stories from the past month. Emily Burt draws attention to recent cases of charities declining to voluntarily recognise workers’ unions. She questions the…
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A whistlestop AI tour for small charities
Andy Ricketts and Dami Adewale are joined by John Fitzgerald, digital evolution project manager at the Scottish Council for Voluntary Organisations. John describes some of the easy-to-use AI tools that can improve efficiency in working life and shares examples of charities that are already...
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How to raise money through livestreaming
Lucinda Rouse and Emily Burt are joined by Emily Cotter, marketing, PR and communications officer at Leeds Mind, and Col Grist, co-founder and creative director of the digital agency Few and Far. Emily provides insight into Leeds Mind’s experience of livestream fundraising as it prepares to host...
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Sector salaries, City & Guilds pay-outs and CIC complaints
Lucinda Rouse is joined by Third Sector colleagues Emily Harle, Dami Adewale and Andy Ricketts to reflect on three significant sector stories from the past month. Dami recounts the circumstances surrounding a regulatory inquiry into the sale of City and Guilds’ commercial arm to a Greek-owned...
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What charities can learn from the Salt Path exposé
Lucinda Rouse and Emily Harle are joined by Chloe Hadjimatheou, narrative editor at the Observer, who conducted an award-winning exposé of the main characters in the bestselling memoir The Salt Path. Chloe details the steps she took to interrogate some of the assertions made in the book after...
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Why two chief executives can be better than one
Emily Harle and Emily Burt discuss snippets from a recent interview with Hannah Bond and Taahra Ghazi, the new co-chief executives of ActionAid UK. Hannah speaks of the value of a co-chief executive model in supporting feminist leadership and ensuring the best possible decisions are made for an...
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How Islamic Relief UK is responding to Islamophobia
Emily Burt and Emily Harle are joined by Zia Salik, interim director of Islamic Relief UK, to talk about the rising levels of Islamophobia and racism targeting the charity. Zia describes the measures being taken to support staff in the face of growing online and face-to-face hostility, and the…
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Engaging civil servants and politicians to further your charitable mission
Emily Harle and Dami Adewale are joined by Madeleine Jennings, head of policy and communications at the Local Trust. Madeleine describes how her team has worked to translate lessons learned from the Local Trust’s ‘Big Local’ programme into actionable government policy. She stresses the importance...
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What does 2026 have in store for charities?
Lucinda Rouse and Emily Burt are joined by Kate Lee, chief executive of the National Council for Voluntary Organisations, to discuss some of the issues facing the voluntary sector in 2026. These include ensuring financial sustainability and the role of civil society in a world of uncertainty in…
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How the RNIB has navigated a restructure
Lucinda Rouse and Emily Harle discuss snippets from a recent interview Emily conducted with Matt Stringer, chief executive of the Royal National Institute of Blind People. Matt provides insight into the RNIB’s transformation programme, which concluded in April, and shares his lessons learned from…
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How did the sector fare in 2025?
Lucinda Rouse is joined by Emily Burt, Emily Harle and Andy Ricketts to dissect the leading stories from the voluntary sector in 2025. Lucinda delivers a speedy round-up of the year’s charity news before the four discuss their selected top stories. These include the launch of the Civil Society...
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Under the bonnet of the People’s Postcode Lottery
Lucinda Rouse and Andy Ricketts are joined by Clara Govier, managing director of the People’s Postcode Lottery. Clara outlines the process for disbursing funds to charities and explains what the People’s Postcode Lottery looks for in prospective charity partners. She gives her thoughts on how...
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A stocktake on charity leadership concerns
Lucinda Rouse and Dami Adewale are joined by Jane Ide, chief executive of the charity leaders body Acevo, to reflect on some of the issues facing sector leaders. Jane provides an update on work relating to the Civil Society Covenant, which was published in July, saying more momentum is expected...
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What is the ‘impact economy’? And refugee charities in far-right headwinds
Lucinda Rouse, Emily Harle and Emily Burt reflect on two significant sector issues from the past month. Emily Harle shares findings from a recent roundtable meeting of leaders from refugee and migration charities, whose staff have experienced a surge in targeted hostility in recent months. And...
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How a national charity is fostering hyperlocal connections
Lucinda Rouse and Emily Burt are joined by Vic Harper, chief executive of the food redistribution charity The Bread and Butter Thing. Vic describes how the charity has taken a holistic approach to the way it supports communities by working alongside other charities and local authorities at its…
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How to engage with partners in effective lobbying
Lucinda Rouse and Emily Harle are joined by Leicia Feare, associate director of communications and campaigns at the youth empowerment charity Mission 44. Leicia talks about the charity’s first campaign, Nothing Happens in Isolation, which aims to promote inclusion in schools. She describes how...
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Getting project endings right
Lucinda Rouse and Andy Ricketts are joined by Ruth Hollis, chief executive of the Olympic legacy charity Spirit of 2012. Ruth reflects on the responsibility of being a funder approaching close-out as Spirit of 2012 prepares to wind up in early 2026. She acknowledges the difficulties for charities...
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A new Charity Commission chair
Lucinda Rouse and Andy Ricketts share their thoughts on the announcement this week that Dame Julia Unwin has been named the preferred candidate to be the new chair of the Charity Commission. Andy explains the role of the chair, suggests how Unwin might be different to her predecessors and…
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A weekly podcast from Third Sector, the UK’s leading publication for everyone who needs to know what’s going on in the voluntary and not-for-profit sector.
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