This Too Is Rescue: Moral Injury and Staying Human in Animal Care

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This Too Is Rescue: Moral Injury and Staying Human in Animal Care

story + research + advocacy + soulIf you’re drawn to the raw and real side of animal care, the part that goes beyond saving lives and asks what it means to be human while we do it: this is for you. We’ll explore the human-animal bond, the values that drive us, the morality we wrestle with, and the deeper question of what it means to work in animal care and hold onto humanity in the midst of it all. Jamie McNally, Ph.D, LPC is a mental health professional, wellness coach, trauma expert, moral injury researcher, military veteran, and active shelter volunteer at a high intake city shelter.

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    Bigger Than You Think

    Animal care work is bigger than you think. And to engage ethically with it, we need to begin having some hard conversations. Disclaimer:This program, including all podcast content and any related materials, is not a substitute for therapy, counseling, psychological services, or any form of medical or mental health treatment. While the host of this podcast is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), she is not operating in the capacity of a therapist within this program.Engaging with this program does not establish a therapist-client relationship. No diagnosis, treatment, or clinical intervention will be provided. The purpose of this program is for education and personal growth—not for mental health treatment.If you are experiencing significant emotional distress, symptoms of a mental health condition, or are in crisis, this program is not appropriate for your needs. You are encouraged to seek the support of a licensed mental health provider in your area.

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    Becoming

    This week we're talking about what happens after the decision to be brave, and how every version of who you're becoming depends on what you choose today.The future you is real. And they're counting on you. Today.Disclaimer:This program, including all podcast content and any related materials, is not a substitute for therapy, counseling, psychological services, or any form of medical or mental health treatment. While the host of this podcast is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), she is not operating in the capacity of a therapist within this program.Engaging with this program does not establish a therapist-client relationship. No diagnosis, treatment, or clinical intervention will be provided. The purpose of this program is for education and personal growth—not for mental health treatment.If you are experiencing significant emotional distress, symptoms of a mental health condition, or are in crisis, this program is not appropriate for your needs. You are encouraged to seek the support of a licensed mental health provider in your area.

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    Moral Courage in Animal Care: Living into Values in the Presence of Fear

    In animal care work, we face constant ethical challenges. We see wrongdoing. We sense when something isn't right. We know things should be different.The gap isn't usually in our knowing. The gap is in our doing.Moral courage is the bridge between the two.In this episode, Dr. Jamie McNally explores moral courage and the willingness to stand up for and act according to your ethical beliefs even in the presence of risk and in the absence of ethics codes, committees, and clear policies. In the absence of external structures, moral courage often becomes a largely individual journey, but it's one you can take while being clear in your values. Disclaimer:This program, including all podcast content and any related materials, is not a substitute for therapy, counseling, psychological services, or any form of medical or mental health treatment. While the host of this podcast is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), she is not operating in the capacity of a therapist within this program.Engaging with this program does not establish a therapist-client relationship. No diagnosis, treatment, or clinical intervention will be provided. The purpose of this program is for education and personal growth—not for mental health treatment.If you are experiencing significant emotional distress, symptoms of a mental health condition, or are in crisis, this program is not appropriate for your needs. You are encouraged to seek the support of a licensed mental health provider in your area.

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    Voices, Silence, and Invisible Advocacy

    In animal care work, so many things can silence us.Moral injury. Burnout. Trauma. Organizational cultures that punish speaking up. Public scorn. Life transitions that require all our internal resources.But sometimes, the most important uses of voice are invisible.If you've tried to create change from within systems that resist it, if some of the most important uses of your voice have never become public, know that your voice still has a place in this work. Know that your voice will return. Disclaimer:This program, including all podcast content and any related materials, is not a substitute for therapy, counseling, psychological services, or any form of medical or mental health treatment. While the host of this podcast is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), she is not operating in the capacity of a therapist within this program.Engaging with this program does not establish a therapist-client relationship. No diagnosis, treatment, or clinical intervention will be provided. The purpose of this program is for education and personal growth—not for mental health treatment.If you are experiencing significant emotional distress, symptoms of a mental health condition, or are in crisis, this program is not appropriate for your needs. You are encouraged to seek the support of a licensed mental health provider in your area.

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    Entering, Enduring, and Exiting Animal Care (Part 6): Becoming an Elder After Exit

    When people exit animal care work, they often just... disappear. They're not asked to mentor. They're not invited to share what they've learned. In this episode, Dr. Jamie McNally suggests something is needed and currently missing in modern animal care work: the role of the elder. Inspired by land-based cultures and ancestral traditions, she makes the case that those who have exited carry something irreplaceable: wisdom earned through experience, knowledge of what works and what doesn't, perspective that those still in the thick of it simply cannot have.This episode reframes exit not as an ending, but as a opportunity for exit to be the beginning of transformation into a new role. If you've exited animal care work, this episode invites you to consider what it would mean to step into the role of elder because our wisdom and our stories are just as vital as our saves. And as animal care workers, we already know how to rescue. Maybe it's time we turn that instinct toward each other.Disclaimer:This program, including all podcast content and any related materials, is not a substitute for therapy, counseling, psychological services, or any form of medical or mental health treatment. While the host of this podcast is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), she is not operating in the capacity of a therapist within this program.Engaging with this program does not establish a therapist-client relationship. No diagnosis, treatment, or clinical intervention will be provided. The purpose of this program is for education and personal growth—not for mental health treatment.If you are experiencing significant emotional distress, symptoms of a mental health condition, or are in crisis, this program is not appropriate for your needs. You are encouraged to seek the support of a licensed mental health provider in your area.

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    Entering, Enduring, and Exiting Animal Care (Part 5): When It's Time To Leave

    This episode is for the 41.7%.In Dr. Jamie McNally's research on moral injury in animal care workers, nearly half of respondents agreed that they think a lot about leaving their animal care role. If that's you, if you're wrestling with whether to stay or go, if you're wondering who you are without this work, if you're grieving something you haven't even left yet, then this episode is for you.We explore the sacred questions that arise at this crossroads and while this episode is not going to answer the question "Should I go" for you (because nobody can answer that but you), we name the challenge of being where you are and address the grief that comes with leaving a calling because you deserve to be witnessed in this space. This episode also offers words to organizations about honoring exits and to loved ones about holding space without judgment.If you're considering leaving, this episode gives you permission to take that seriously.Disclaimer:This program, including all podcast content and any related materials, is not a substitute for therapy, counseling, psychological services, or any form of medical or mental health treatment. While the host of this podcast is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), she is not operating in the capacity of a therapist within this program.Engaging with this program does not establish a therapist-client relationship. No diagnosis, treatment, or clinical intervention will be provided. The purpose of this program is for education and personal growth—not for mental health treatment.If you are experiencing significant emotional distress, symptoms of a mental health condition, or are in crisis, this program is not appropriate for your needs. You are encouraged to seek the support of a licensed mental health provider in your area.

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    Entering, Enduring, and Exiting Animal Care (Part 4): Enduring Through Internal Healing and External Pivots

    Last week, we talked about how burnout, compassion fatigue, and moral injury aren't just conditions to manage, but are liminal spaces themselves, calling you toward transformation. This week we talk more about this part of enduring animal care, and we also introduce a second aspect of enduring: external change by pivoting.This episode goes deeper into these two types of transformation you might face in the enduring phase of animal care work: internal transformation (healing and developing new skills in your current role) and external transformation (pivoting to a new position, organization, or focus area while maintaining your animal advocacy identity). Sometimes you need one. Sometimes you need both.Whether you're being called to renew where you are or pivot to something new, this episode offers a framework for discerning which path is yours as you endure in this work in sustainable ways.Disclaimer:This program, including all podcast content and any related materials, is not a substitute for therapy, counseling, psychological services, or any form of medical or mental health treatment. While the host of this podcast is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), she is not operating in the capacity of a therapist within this program.Engaging with this program does not establish a therapist-client relationship. No diagnosis, treatment, or clinical intervention will be provided. The purpose of this program is for education and personal growth—not for mental health treatment.If you are experiencing significant emotional distress, symptoms of a mental health condition, or are in crisis, this program is not appropriate for your needs. You are encouraged to seek the support of a licensed mental health provider in your area.

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    Entering, Enduring, and Exiting Animal Care (Part 3): Enduring the Liminal Space No One Prepares You For

    You've made it through the transformation of becoming an animal care worker. You've found your place, your people, your purpose. But then something shifts. The weight accumulates. The passion transforms into something heavier. You're not the same person who started this work anymore, and nobody really prepared you for this or told you what to do next.In this episode, we explore the enduring phase of animal care work and the uninvited liminal space that catches so many people off guard. We talk about burnout, secondary traumatic stress, compassion fatigue, PTSD, and moral injury, not just as conditions to manage, but as threshold moments themselves. These are separations from old ways of being, neutral zones of disorientation, and calls toward transformation that most organizations never prepare you for.We talk about how making it through this liminal space in the enduring phase isn't about going back to who you were before the weight: it's about moving deeper into who you're becoming. It's about learning the skills specific to first responder work in animal care that allow you to carry the weight without being destroyed by it.If you're weathered and weary, if resignation is creeping in, if you're wondering whether you can keep doing this work, this episode is for you. Because endurance isn't about toughing it out alone. It's about understanding what's actually happening and having the courage to transform.Disclaimer:This program, including all podcast content and any related materials, is not a substitute for therapy, counseling, psychological services, or any form of medical or mental health treatment. While the host of this podcast is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), she is not operating in the capacity of a therapist within this program.Engaging with this program does not establish a therapist-client relationship. No diagnosis, treatment, or clinical intervention will be provided. The purpose of this program is for education and personal growth—not for mental health treatment.If you are experiencing significant emotional distress, symptoms of a mental health condition, or are in crisis, this program is not appropriate for your needs. You are encouraged to seek the support of a licensed mental health provider in your area.

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    Entering, Enduring, and Exiting Animal Care (Part 2): The Magic of Beginning

    This week, we continue to explore the phase of life where we enter into animal care work. But unlike last week's episode, where we explored some of the potential challenges of beginning, this week we are focused on the magic that is tucked into this work and our entering into it. In this episode, we talk about why this work is so powerful, finding moments of awe, and remembering (if you've been in this awhile), why entering this work might just be one of the best things you've ever done. Disclaimer:This program, including all podcast content and any related materials, is not a substitute for therapy, counseling, psychological services, or any form of medical or mental health treatment. While the host of this podcast is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), she is not operating in the capacity of a therapist within this program.Engaging with this program does not establish a therapist-client relationship. No diagnosis, treatment, or clinical intervention will be provided. The purpose of this program is for education and personal growth—not for mental health treatment.If you are experiencing significant emotional distress, symptoms of a mental health condition, or are in crisis, this program is not appropriate for your needs. You are encouraged to seek the support of a licensed mental health provider in your area.

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    Entering, Enduring, and Exiting Animal Care (Part 1): Even Getting Started Is Hard

    In Extremely Human Animal Care, one of the important factors we examine relates to identity. In animal care, we experience identity shifts when we enter the work, at defining moments while we endure, and again if we ever choose to leave this work. This short series examines these transition points, beginning with entering the work.In this episode, I share some of my own experiences and challenges on getting started in animal care. We talk about being green, gatekeeping, and welcoming new voices, and we explore my thoughts on how we might be making it difficult for others to be welcomed in. Everyone's experiences into animal care are unique and this is just one story. But I hope it helps us to consider how we might make entering this work more sustainable, and more appealing to attract the next generation of animal advocates. Disclaimer:This program, including all podcast content and any related materials, is not a substitute for therapy, counseling, psychological services, or any form of medical or mental health treatment. While the host of this podcast is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), she is not operating in the capacity of a therapist within this program.Engaging with this program does not establish a therapist-client relationship. No diagnosis, treatment, or clinical intervention will be provided. The purpose of this program is for education and personal growth—not for mental health treatment.If you are experiencing significant emotional distress, symptoms of a mental health condition, or are in crisis, this program is not appropriate for your needs. You are encouraged to seek the support of a licensed mental health provider in your area.

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    The Liminal Space: Identity Transformation in Animal Care

    This episode kicks off a series where we explore the three major identity transformations most animal care workers experience: entering the field for the first time, enduring defining moments that shatter our understanding of the work, and exiting when we feel staying means losing ourselves.Drawing on research in moral injury, organizational psychology, and anthropology, Dr. Jamie McNally guides listeners through the concept of "liminal space", the uncomfortable in-between where we're no longer who we were but not yet who we're becoming. These transitions are psychologically dangerous when unsupported, which is why turnover in animal care remains devastatingly high.If you're questioning your place in animal care right now, if you're standing at a crossroads in animal care unsure whether to step in, stay, or walk away, know that feeling has a name: liminal space. And it's where every transformative journey begins. And if you are in a liminal space, this series is for you. Disclaimer:This program, including all podcast content and any related materials, is not a substitute for therapy, counseling, psychological services, or any form of medical or mental health treatment. While the host of this podcast is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), she is not operating in the capacity of a therapist within this program.Engaging with this program does not establish a therapist-client relationship. No diagnosis, treatment, or clinical intervention will be provided. The purpose of this program is for education and personal growth—not for mental health treatment.If you are experiencing significant emotional distress, symptoms of a mental health condition, or are in crisis, this program is not appropriate for your needs. You are encouraged to seek the support of a licensed mental health provider in your area.

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    Thresholds and New Frameworks: Foundations to Guide Us in 2026

    This season 2 kick-off episode is about stepping through into new beginnings. Last year was full of transformation, growth, and an evolution of this work. That journey has resulted in the development of three foundational frameworks that will be guiding this podcast, and all of Fortifyu's work in 2026 and beyond: 1. Extremely Human Animal Care2. Unashamedly Force-Free with Human and Non-Human Animals Alike3. Give Them Voice Culture. This episode launches Season 2 of This Too Is Rescue, and briefly introduces the frameworks that will be guiding us as we prepare to launch a value-packed season of episodes guided by these foundations. Disclaimer:This program, including all podcast content and any related materials, is not a substitute for therapy, counseling, psychological services, or any form of medical or mental health treatment. While the host of this podcast is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), she is not operating in the capacity of a therapist within this program.Engaging with this program does not establish a therapist-client relationship. No diagnosis, treatment, or clinical intervention will be provided. The purpose of this program is for education and personal growth—not for mental health treatment.If you are experiencing significant emotional distress, symptoms of a mental health condition, or are in crisis, this program is not appropriate for your needs. You are encouraged to seek the support of a licensed mental health provider in your area.

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    I Almost Became the Statistic: Season 1 Finale

    In Episode 1, I told you we'd explore why the most compassionate people leave animal care work.By Episode 9, I'd nearly become one of them.This is the Season 1 finale of This Too Is Rescue. In this episode, I share what happened over the past few months: the silence, the struggle, and the realignment. I talk about living the moral injury we've been discussing all season, why individual resilience isn't the answer, and what we're building together in 2026.Have you ever taught something you were simultaneously learning? Talked about something you were living in real time? Warned people about a cliff you were standing at the edge of?That was this season for me.But I'm still here. And I'm coming back more clear.This isn't goodbye. It's "see you in Season 2."Thank you for being part of this movement.Resources mentioned:- Moral Injury Assessment: fortifyucoaching.com/moral-injury-assessment- Connect: https://www.instagram.com/fortifyu_coach (Instagram) ...Jamie McNally, Ph.D., LPC... | LinkedIn (Linkedin)Facebook- Share your story or ask your question for Season 2: [email protected] 2 launches in 2026. Until then, take care of yourselves. Take care of each other. And remember: this too is rescue.Disclaimer:This program, including all podcast content and any related materials, is not a substitute for therapy, counseling, psychological services, or any form of medical or mental health treatment. While the host of this podcast is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), she is not operating in the capacity of a therapist within this program.Engaging with this program does not establish a therapist-client relationship. No diagnosis, treatment, or clinical intervention will be provided. The purpose of this program is for education and personal growth—not for mental health treatment.If you are experiencing significant emotional distress, symptoms of a mental health condition, or are in crisis, this program is not appropriate for your needs. You are encouraged to seek the support of a licensed mental health provider in your area.

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    Some Emotions Are Moral (Part 3 of 3): Other-Focused Moral Emotions

    In this third installment of our three-part series on moral emotions, we turn our focus outward. This episode explores other-condemning and other-praising moral emotions that arise when we evaluate the ethical behaviors of others. Disclaimer:This program, including all podcast content and any related materials, is not a substitute for therapy, counseling, psychological services, or any form of medical or mental health treatment. While the host of this podcast is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), she is not operating in the capacity of a therapist within this program.Engaging with this program does not establish a therapist-client relationship. No diagnosis, treatment, or clinical intervention will be provided. The purpose of this program is for education and personal growth—not for mental health treatment.If you are experiencing significant emotional distress, symptoms of a mental health condition, or are in crisis, this program is not appropriate for your needs. You are encouraged to seek the support of a licensed mental health provider in your area.

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    Some Emotions Are Moral (Part 2 of 3): Guilt & Shame in Animal Care

    In this second installment of our three-part series on moral emotions, we turn inward. This episode explores guilt and shame, the self-focused moral emotions that arise when we judge ourselves to have violated our own moral code or the ethical expectations of our community.Drawing on research from both military and animal care settings, we look at how guilt and shame shape our identities, influence our sense of belonging, and play a role in moral injury. We’ll talk about how to respond and why understanding them can help us move from isolation to repair.Disclaimer:This program, including all podcast content and anyrelated materials, is not a substitute for therapy, counseling, psychologicalservices, or any form of medical or mental health treatment. While the host ofthis podcast is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), she is not operatingin the capacity of a therapist within this program.Engaging with this program does not establish atherapist-client relationship. No diagnosis, treatment, or clinicalintervention will be provided. The purpose of this program is for education andpersonal growth—not for mental health treatment.If you are experiencing significant emotional distress,symptoms of a mental health condition, or are in crisis, this program is notappropriate for your needs. You are encouraged to seek the support of alicensed mental health provider in your area.

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    Some Emotions Are Moral (Part 1 of 3): Understanding Emotions as a Foundation

    This episode begins a three-part series where we introduce an exciting and important topic: moral emotions. Part 1 introduces the topic of emotions generally so that we can understand the importance they play in animal care...and in life. This episode guides us through the basics of emotional intelligence, the “wise mind” from DBT, and practical tools like the Feelings Wheel to expand our emotional vocabulary. You’ll learn why all emotions, even the difficult ones, have a purpose, how they communicate valuable information, and how they prime us for action. This sets the foundation for exploring a unique type of emotions: moral emotions. Moral emotions are those uniquely human feelings tied to values, ethics, and our interactions with others. Moral emotions are introduced briefly in this episode and, in the next two episodes (part 2 and 3 of the series), we’ll dig deeper into self-focused moral emotions like guilt and shame, and other-focused emotions like anger, disgust, and yes, even compassion. Disclaimer:This program, including all podcast content and any related materials, is not a substitute for therapy, counseling, psychological services, or any form of medical or mental health treatment. While the host of this podcast is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), she is not operating in the capacity of a therapist within this program.Engaging with this program does not establish a therapist-client relationship. No diagnosis, treatment, or clinical intervention will be provided. The purpose of this program is for education and personal growth—not for mental health treatment.If you are experiencing significant emotional distress, symptoms of a mental health condition, or are in crisis, this program is not appropriate for your needs. You are encouraged to seek the support of a licensed mental health provider in your area.

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    A Taxonomy of Woundedness: Distinguishing Burnout, Secondary Traumatic Stress, Compassion Fatigue, and Moral Injury in Animal Care Work

    In this episode of This Too Is Rescue, we walk through a single work day with “Alex”, a fictional shelter worker built from the real stories of animal care professionals.Through Alex’s experiences, we will briefly introduce and highlight the difference between four overlapping but distinct struggles in animal care: burnout, secondary traumatic stress, compassion fatigue, and moral injury. These complex terms are often used interchangeably, but in this episode we briefly explore each one and show how they can appear differently in a single day’s work.Want to go deeper? Join the Inner Herd for monthly bonus content designed to support your growth, grounding, and wellness in animal care. Visit Fortifyu to learn more about becoming a member of the Inner Herd. www.fortifyucoaching.com ⁠⁠Disclaimer:This program, including all podcast content and any related materials, is not a substitute for therapy, counseling, psychological services, or any form of medical or mental health treatment. While the host of this podcast is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), she is not operating in the capacity of a therapist within this program.Engaging with this program does not establish a therapist-client relationship. No diagnosis, treatment, or clinical intervention will be provided. The purpose of this program is for education and personal growth—not for mental health treatment.If you are experiencing significant emotional distress, symptoms of a mental health condition, or are in crisis, this program is not appropriate for your needs. You are encouraged to seek the support of a licensed mental health provider in your area.

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    The Line That Was Crossed: Understanding Transgressions and Potentially Morally Injurious Events in Animal Care

    In this episode of This Too Is Rescue, we explore Potentially Morally Injurious Events (PMIEs): the defining moments in animal care work that violate our deepest values, whether by our own hand, someone else’s, or through a specific type of violation related to broken trust. We name the types of moral transgressions that can leave invisible wounds and that have the potential to lead to moral injury.Want to go deeper? Join the Inner Herd for monthly bonus content designed to support your growth, grounding, and wellness in animal care. Visit Fortifyu to learn how to become a member and join the herd. www.fortifyucoaching.com ⁠⁠Disclaimer:This program, including all podcast content and any related materials, is not a substitute for therapy, counseling, psychological services, or any form of medical or mental health treatment. While the host of this podcast is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), she is not operating in the capacity of a therapist within this program.Engaging with this program does not establish a therapist-client relationship. No diagnosis, treatment, or clinical intervention will be provided. The purpose of this program is for education and personal growth—not for mental health treatment.If you are experiencing significant emotional distress, symptoms of a mental health condition, or are in crisis, this program is not appropriate for your needs. You are encouraged to seek the support of a licensed mental health provider in your area.Support This Work If this podcast speaks to you, please consider supporting its ongoing creation. This work is independently created, fueled by heart, and sustained by listeners like you. Your support helps keep this podcast going and will directly impact my ability to continue to develop new episodes and resources that I can offer free-of-charge to our community, ultimately bringing more healing and humanity to those doing hard, trauma-exposed work.You can support the work in one of two ways:➤ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Buy Me a Coffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ – make a one-time or monthly contribution ➤ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Support the Work on Our Site⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ – contribute through our Squarespace shopIf you are a business or organization that believes in this content and would like to sponsor This Too Is Rescue, please contact me at [email protected] you for being part of this movement. It matters more than you know.

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    The Soul of The Work: Naming the Ethical Wounds We Carry

    In this episode, we begin to name the invisible weight many animal welfare professionals carry: the burden of moral stress and moral injury. These are real, cumulative, and deeply impactful experiences that arise when we’re forced to act (or are prevented from acting) in ways that violate our core values.We introduce a foundational framework for understanding how this kind of harm affects every dimension of our being: biological, psychological, social, and spiritual.Together, we explore how these ethical tensions build over time, often moving along a spectrum,.This episode opens the door to understanding how and why this work can hurt, even when we love it, and why naming that pain is the first step toward healing. Want to go deeper? Join the Inner Herd for monthly bonus content designed to support your growth, grounding, and wellness in animal care. ⁠ Visit Fortifyu to learn more about how to become a member and join the herd. www.fortifyucoaching.comDisclaimer:This program, including all podcast content and any related materials, is not a substitute for therapy, counseling, psychological services, or any form of medical or mental health treatment. While the host of this podcast is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), she is not operating in the capacity of a therapist within this program.Engaging with this program does not establish a therapist-client relationship. No diagnosis, treatment, or clinical intervention will be provided. The purpose of this program is for education and personal growth—not for mental health treatment.If you are experiencing significant emotional distress, symptoms of a mental health condition, or are in crisis, this program is not appropriate for your needs. You are encouraged to seek the support of a licensed mental health provider in your area.Support This Work If this podcast speaks to you, please consider supporting its ongoing creation. This work is independently created, fueled by heart, and sustained by listeners like you. Your support helps keep this podcast going and will directly impact my ability to continue to develop new episodes and resources that I can offer free-of-charge to our community, ultimately bringing more healing and humanity to those doing hard, trauma-exposed work.You can support the work in one of two ways:➤ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Buy Me a Coffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ – make a one-time or monthly contribution ➤ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Support the Work on Our Site⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ – contribute through our Squarespace shopIf you are a business or organization that believes in this content and would like to sponsor This Too Is Rescue, please contact me at [email protected] you for being part of this movement. It matters more than you know.

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    Submitting to the Work: Guided by the Values That Brought Us Here

    In this episode of This Too Is Rescue, we take a deeper look at what it really means to "submit to the work" in animal care, not just as a job or a volunteer opportunity, but as a calling shaped by the values that led us here in the first place.We talk about how, in the grind and heartbreak of this field, our personal values can become blurred or buried. And yet, those same values are the compass points that can help us make aligned decisions, set healthy boundaries, and stay in the work with integrity and resilience.You can access the free values sort exercise mentioned in the episode by clicking here: https://www.valuescardsort.com/Want to go deeper? Join the Inner Herd for monthly bonus content designed to support your growth, grounding, and wellness in animal care. Visit Fortifyu to learn more these Members only opportunities and to join the herd! www.fortifyucoaching.comSupport This Work If this podcast speaks to you, please consider supporting its ongoing creation. This work is independently created, fueled by heart, and sustained by listeners like you. Your support helps keep this podcast going and will directly impact my ability to continue to develop new episodes and resources that I can offer free-of-charge to our community, ultimately bringing more healing and humanity to those doing hard, trauma-exposed work.You can support the work in one of two ways:➤ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Buy Me a Coffee⁠⁠⁠⁠ – make a one-time or monthly contribution ➤ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Support the Work on Our Site⁠⁠⁠⁠ – contribute through our Squarespace shopIf you are a business or organization that believes in this content and would like to sponsor This Too Is Rescue, please contact me at [email protected] you for being part of this movement. It matters more than you know. Disclaimer:This program, including all podcast content and any related materials, is not a substitute for therapy, counseling, psychological services, or any form of medical or mental health treatment. While the host of this podcast is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), she is not operating in the capacity of a therapist within this program.Engaging with this program does not establish a therapist-client relationship. No diagnosis, treatment, or clinical intervention will be provided. The purpose of this program is for education and personal growth—not for mental health treatment.If you are experiencing significant emotional distress, symptoms of a mental health condition, or are in crisis, this program is not appropriate for your needs. You are encouraged to seek the support of a licensed mental health provider in your area.

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    We All Start Somewhere: Beginning Feels Messy...and We Do it Anyway

    In this first episode of This Too Is Rescue, I speak honestly about what it means to begin, when the work feels too big, the message feels unfinished, and the path ahead is unclear. I reflect on how I've been holding back, and why I'm choosing to show up anyway.Support This Work If this podcast speaks to you, please consider supporting its ongoing creation. This work is independently created, fueled by heart, and sustained by listeners like you. Your support helps keep this podcast going and will directly impact my ability to continue to develop new episodes and resources that I can offer free-of-charge to our community, ultimately bringing more healing and humanity to those doing hard, trauma-exposed work.You can support the work in one of two ways:➤ ⁠⁠⁠Buy Me a Coffee⁠⁠⁠ – make a one-time or monthly contribution ➤ ⁠⁠⁠Support the Work on Our Site⁠⁠⁠ – contribute through our Squarespace shopIf you are a business or organization that believes in this content and would like to sponsor This Too Is Rescue, please contact me at [email protected] you for being part of this movement. It matters more than you know. Disclaimer:This program, including all podcast content and any related materials, is not a substitute for therapy, counseling, psychological services, or any form of medical or mental health treatment. While the host of this podcast is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), she is not operating in the capacity of a therapist within this program.Engaging with this program does not establish a therapist-client relationship. No diagnosis, treatment, or clinical intervention will be provided. The purpose of this program is for education and personal growth—not for mental health treatment.If you are experiencing significant emotional distress, symptoms of a mental health condition, or are in crisis, this program is not appropriate for your needs. You are encouraged to seek the support of a licensed mental health provider in your area.

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story + research + advocacy + soulIf you’re drawn to the raw and real side of animal care, the part that goes beyond saving lives and asks what it means to be human while we do it: this is for you. We’ll explore the human-animal bond, the values that drive us, the morality we wrestle with, and the deeper question of what it means to work in animal care and hold onto humanity in the midst of it all. Jamie McNally, Ph.D, LPC is a mental health professional, wellness coach, trauma expert, moral injury researcher, military veteran, and active shelter volunteer at a high intake city shelter.

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